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No he didnt. He refused to discuss the issues - as it's yet NOT prime in kenya. You cannot use culture to oppose LBGT+. The best stance is to say no comment. Besides any such laws are almost ineffective. So unless you're oil rich Saudi Arabia - no need throwing your weight with african culture. It's a non issues. Let discuss real issues - lack of food, basic housing, healthcare and such. 1st world versus 3rd world issues. Let the 1st world deal with such issues...gays, abortion, ufos...but africans we have people sleeping hungry...sex and how not or to have is least of our concerns.

Shma2022:
But he backed up Uhuru's take on the illegality of gay culture in Kenya, Nah? He categorically stated that we have our own culture that we believe in & we must be respected on that (meaning gaysm & LGBTQ are not one of them_)

I agree with him 100%. WHY?

1. He knows LGBTQ is a westernized culture.
2. He's not about to impose restrictions when it balloons and the people of Kenya accept it.
3. He believes the act is not right... But respects those who do that.
4. He still stands with its illegality. It won't be legal anytime soon.

Corruption is not a problem that goes away. You have to build institutions that can independently fight corruption - for ages. Firing squad in this age of course is not acceptable. Death sentences are not even acceptable in Kenya anymore.

The genesis of kenya state capture in 60s - with
1) Transfer of wealth from colonial settlers (kenya was direct colony unlike most of Ghana) - some political elite - basically transferred huge land/companies/wealth from colonial master to themselves - same thing happened in South Africa and Zimbwabwe. The Kenyatta for example simply took over 0.5 to even 1m acres of land - these were land meant to redistribute back to all the landless.
2) When they were done that grabbing the colonial era wealth - in mid 1970s - kenya had commission of inquiry popularly known as Ndegwa(Public Service Structure and Remuneration Commission (1970-71) - that basically because Africans were behind Asian and white in enteprise - civil servants who were often the only educated africans - would be allowed to own business. Something akin to South Africa BEEE thing.

What Ndegwa commission did was basically make civil servants who suppose to be regulators and arbitrers in the market - the players - the conflict of interest - the regulatory capture - has meant we have capatalism that has not delivered. Most big companies are owned politicians - or top civil servants - who are suppose to be umpires in the market.

Liberalization of the 90s - didnt help much - as the same crew took over the privatisaiton - added former state enterprise to their enormous wealth.

The only saving grace and refuge for most kenyans then became the informal sector - jua kali in kenya - and this where we are.

The solutions therefore is to
1) Fully embrace the informal sector (Hustler Revolution) - grow it to SMES - finally to have large formal sectors emerge from it
2) Kill the mostly fake formal sector by forcing them to compete equally, pay taxes equallyh and adhers to rules like everyone else. Fix the market failures. Kill monopolies and such anti-competition stunts.
3) Retain or attract only formal sector that trulys plays by the market rules.

So Ruto manifesto is to spend money supporting informal sector - kill the state captured formal sectors by fixing the marke- only those can compete without state or incest - will thrive - and economy will finally realize the full promise and potential as capitalist economy.

Just40:
what Rawlings dealt with was corruption and the best way to deal with the canker of corruption is what Rawlings did.

With state capture, you have to destroy the wealth base of a group of people and denounce the credibility of others .... This way, you get result

Yes their wild nomadic spirit is hard to be confined like in places Europe. They dont make excellent workers because of their pride - and are natural businessmen. Those in US and middle east thrive better because it easier to start business. Kenya and Africa offers them huge opportunities for their enterprising & nomadic spirit.

kikuyu1:
Imo this may already be happening. South B and Nairobi West are filled with Somalis from all over Holland, the UK, the US and other places. Liberal Europe isn't good for their psyche- their young tend to crash and burn in those environments.
Also as they become more exposed they realize our educational system gives a behavioral foundation completely missing in Sweden or Scandinavia where I'm sure you know anything goes.

We dont want Ghana purge- Jerry Rawling - basically dealt with entire political and economic elite through firing squads - and exiled even more - Ghana suffered huge brain drain.

"He and the AFRC ruled for 112 days and arranged the execution by firing squad of eight military officers, including Generals Kotei, Joy Amedume, Roger Felli, and Utuka, as well as the three former Ghanaian heads of state; Acheampong, Akuffo, and Akwasi Afrifa.[10][4]

These executions were dramatic events in the history of Ghana, which had previously suffered few instances of political violence. Rawlings later implemented a much wider "house-cleaning exercise" involving the killings and abduction of over 300 Ghanaians."

Not of all of them get shelved. Kenya elections has been hailed as one world most transparent for example - it's product of international commission of inquiry. South Africa - Truth and Reconcilliation inquiry - has been hailed for solving many deep seated problems.

Ghana state capture was largely dealt with by the strongman Rawling - who simply purged - killing and exiling - the entire political/economic elite of Ghana - without a due process - just mob lynching.

Kenya has to deal with it's own challenges within the legal framework - and I cannot think of any other way - apart from quasi-judicial inquiry. Such a commission should be headed by eminent chief justices - and those names should be publicly shamed or tried - where the standards of proof is lower than in criminal trials - not convincted but recommend for criminal trials wherever possible but more importantly recommendation made to parliament and regulatory bodies to entangle the private and public sector from tiny elite in the future - by for example disallowing public servants and their relatives from engaging in private business.

Just40:
As if we don't know that inquiry reports just get shelved...

If you want to destroy state capture, just watch how Ghana does it. Cut the money flow and see them squabble

Kenya election - Supreme Court - Today the election commission had the morning. They have totally and completely destroyed Raila petition. The voter scrutiny on 45 polling station have return 100% match with forms.

The star of the day so far is

Mahat Somane - Young somali lawyer- Harvard lecturer and alumni
Mahat Somane 1st degree connection1st
Attorney
Harvard University
Harvard Law School

Now another Somali Harvard graduate has the floor. Pretty impressive subsmission by lawyers today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw0cYAZWq6Q

Supreme Court full hearing on Raila's petition (as always) before the supreme court

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiHaxKP1tok

So far from supreme court - so good - seem they have cut through a lot of BS already - and are more focussed than in 2017 on the real issues - the numbers. As for Kenyatta clan - they brought this to themselves. They understimated WSR. They keep digging - instead of trying to work out a deal - because either way they have lot to lose. Their last option is SCORK - but it appears Raila case is defective if not abuse of the court process - they presented
1) Fake Githongo logs - poorly copy-paste of 2017 logs - the audacity!!!
2) Fake form 34As -poorly photoshopped from online forms - not a single carbon copy from their agents- and
3) the last leg is the four rogue commissioners - who had no real role in the election - were okay with everything until last minute - and now are raising extranous issues starting from last year.
Again the problem remain - Raila was granted in 2017 - Africa 1st and very rare nullification - but he gave the judges the middle finger and didnt go back for election. This time round he has said he will only go to ballot if Chebukati is out - Chebukati will remain until his term end in Jan 2023. The commission itself is in disarray and cannot organize anything.

So yes if SCORK use their wisdom - they will validate Ruto win - and throw Uhuru & Raila under the bus.

kikuyu1:
Last night in Westlands I was with a few of the wider Kenyatta clan-this incl the Muigais (not Mungais), Gathechas, Koinanges and Muhohos. It was most amusing to observe their body language. For the first time since Ruto was declared winner they were uncertain. Their previous misplaced confidence had E-V-A-P-O-R-A-T-E-D. There were recriminations galore: "we should have controlled the agents ourselves;" "WTF exactly happened!";" why can't RAO ever organise ishyt properly?" etc,etc.
They're out of options.

Yes until 5th Sept - next Monday - full hearing to start tomorrow and end on Sunday. Monday we get a verdict. So far it appears the request to retally or recount - and declare Raila winner has fallen. Only 15 polling stations will be recounted. What remain therefore is either to validate or invalidate - and if they invalidate - how to deal with IEBC which is dysfunctional.

Shma2022:
Kenyan elections:

Seems like it's not yet over.

Kenya election update.I landed yesterday after detour to Zanzibar kazikazi semi autonomous island.Kenya are breezing through the world least bloodiest revolution.The police head is possibly dead..other coup plotters have a week to save their lives.. including Kenya deputy chief of staff..Lt gen Ogolla what sad way to end his career.... having risen to airforce commander... Kenya begin the week of long knives and we might emerge from hustler revolution with minimal death or not.Last week the Kenya top security council had gone to presidential tallying center n tried to force their candidate declared winner if not a re run..they failed.One of them Kenya vice chief of staff Lt Gen Ogolla, Police Inspector General,Kenya Solicitor general and others members of National Security Council.Their attempted coup has failed.The police chief is either dead or in ICU.Now battle shift to supreme court...they had 14 days to decide..now 7 days left.. election commission is totally dysfunctional..I took leave to watch the drama live

They have a week to intimidate/bribe the supreme court of kenya - and then they are done. Ruto doesnt have mercy for lazy, stupid and saboteurs. They know it. They will be running out of kenya to exile. Ruto will crack the whip on political class on day one, public service day 2, and by day 3 - it will be very clear - there is law & order in kenya - and things will start to move smoothly. You cannot get things done if you're nice. This is Uhuru biggest failure...trying to get loved.For Ruto it simple - get it done or you're fired. You cant do meeting 5am until 10pm in evening go home. There will be no lazy bones. Kenyattas and Moi - plan has been ready - they will be a commision of inquiry on them - on state capture- and the recommendation will be executed. They cannot cry for political cover because kalenjin and kikuyu have rejected them. They will lose money but will avoid criminal charges. The rest will be tried for criminal offences.

kikuyu1:
I hope there are srs plans in the pipeline. If not dealt with once and for and all they'll screw us endlessly with their corruptly acquired trillions. We'll be endlessly destabilised and sabotaged at every turn. Btw,everyone else I've been telling you for the longest my problem with Wanjohi's enormous entitlement- do you now see my point?

It's very tragic turn on events. Thankfully Chebukati stood tall and brave. Those are very unfortunate treasonous acts that will see Kenyatta, Mois and all their enablers being sent to cleaners. They underestimated Ruto - and now they have on week where they should pray for Supreme Court to listen to their intimidation/bribery - and occasion a constitutional crisis - by annualing Ruto win.

I think Supreme Court will do the right thing - Raila had all the advantages one can hope for going into this election - he lost to an underdog by being lazy and overconfident as always- he didnt even do basic stuff like having agents - he doesnt want a re-run - he wants the court to make him president - and if not to occasion a constitutional crisis.

It will be a constitutional crisis to allow re-run when Uhuru and Raila will intimidate IEBC or make it impossible for another re-run where they will lose. What will happen Uhuru continues as caretaker president with limited power...Ruto continues as deputy president with majority in parliament and senate. It will be total chaos...the limping economy will grind to halt...soon it will become a civil war and kenya will finally join other failed states in Africa.

SO constitutional crisis when our economy is limping would be insane. Therefore I expect Ruto win will be validated. Raila was already given an opportunity in 2017 to run again - and he boycotted.

Once Ruto is sworn then the music will start. Kenyatta & Mois will be running to exile. Ruto is bad news. You will see from next week. Even now the coup plotters cannot dare to come in public - Mutyabai the useless Inspector of Police is down sick (probably poisoned) - the rest are going to get killed if they are not carefully this week.

kikuyu1:
When RAO went to court frankly I yawned. Like seeing the same movie 7x I knew the plot:
- he'd flood the court with a truckload of evidence
- the court would say,"nigga,we don't need your family's prescriptions or your high school love letters dating from 1960!?"
- he'd screech in pretend outrage playing to his excitable electorate
- his threadbare "evidence" consisting of forum printouts from sites like Mr Seed/ nipate / Mashada and jukwaa proboards would be dismissed in 20 mns

But now it seems he's scored the perfect own goal. Forcing the IEBC commissioners to testify may have been an ASTRONOMICAL blunder. Heard the latest?

Read more: https://www.tuko.co.ke/politics/470115-abdi-guliye-claims-juliana-cherera-wanted-william-rutos-votes-reduced-force-run/

Then there's IEBC Chairman Chebukati's bomb.




https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2022/08/chebukati-names-top-govt-officials-who-wanted-to-influence-presidential-results-outcome-in-favor-of-raila/

He actually has some of these niggas on tape!



Rvp20182, Ruto must prioritize drastically reducing the Kenyatta wealth. They'll destabilize our politics in perpetuity to protect themselves this 60 yr mountain of ill gotten gains- NOTHING IS TOO MUCH for them in this regard.

Johnson Sakaja -37yr - sworn in as Nairobi Governor - with solid plan that will see Nairobi shine again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tes1UM1Frqk

Raila chose to exercise his right to challenge the election results at our Supreme Court. He has a weak petition and a bad reputation - so I doubt the Supreme Court of Kenya will help him engineer a constitutional crisis (his wish - as he is not ready for another walloping in the polls). We are therefore just a week and half from retiring 1) Raila - a political pest & sore loser and 2) Kenyattas-Mois - and destroying their tentacle that bestrides our public & private space - more like Nigeria Northern elite Dangote type of elites that have captured Nigeria too . I am going to be in Kenya on the 5th - and hopefully we will get time to do proper celebration of a new epoch in Kenya politics. We are nearly there.

GeneralDae:
My Kenyan people, it seems election tensions are not yet over.

Obiano13:
When you run against a thief you must expect them to steal. Jakom and his jeshi was aloof. he should have known that. The church is forcing their candidate on us. We wont allow it. Keep the state separate from the church. If kenyans wanted they would have elected bishops. ChebuRuto didnt declare the final resulsts from 38 constituencies before announcing the winner. Those too needed to be verified. Supreme court has the final verdict. The election will be nullified. It failed on the verifiability. It took almost 7 days to allow Jambazi to cook the figures.

presidential election are declared at every polling station and six copies plus original made... anything else including chebukati is ceremonial.If you can challenge any polling station figures go ahead .. otherwise the court already declared the polling station as final declaration

It's done deal.Uhuru tried all shenanigans but Chebukati as presidential RO has done iit

Shma2022:
The only post where they have outsmarted Azimio is in senate. The rest; from governorship to MPs is all painted Blue. From these few pointers, how do you expect UDAKu to take the lead?

Updates:
I've been busy since yesterday, and now I have to update you on the current UDA conjured stats and rigging in key areas.

As Anticipated, UDA would by All means try to rig. They have been waiting for a hiatus to conjure their 52% formulated arithmetic; which they have been peddling on Twitter( notoriously by itumbi & Ndii.) 200 attempts of hacking IEBC server by YUDA has failed terribly.
I also hear that Gachagua has been paying clerks in the mountain; to enter results in favor of UDA - it has failed terribly under thorough scrutiny by IEBC officials & Azimio chief Agents.

We won this thing the first day. We're now eying and facilitating the tallying & verification process because UDA fanatics are capable of doing anything illegal anytime. Mega inauguration of baba the 5th awaits

kk has majority in both houses and will the presidency but you're free to wait for chebukati to hand Ruto n Rigathi their certificate early tomorrow

Wuoche:
The silent of Ruto diehards is very loud, since the start of forms verification things have not gone their way.

Hope springs eternal but facts are very stubborn things.Ruto has won this election and met all requirements to become president.The standard news final tally mirrors Uda final tally 50.6% versus 48.7%.These spurious claims of hacking is part of usual SOP of sore losers.The servers this time are opened for everyone...many people have independently confirm that Ruto won..not a single one has Raila leading

Mainstream media are cheating you. Ruto has won this. I have reviewed randomly the forms 34A in half the counties. Ruto has won this.
Ruto has only underperform in Garissa, Kakamega and Kilifi - everywhere else exceeding my predictions.
Mt Kenya is strongly Ruto - play 80% worse case (Kiambu) - otherwise he is 90% elsewhere
And turnout is impressive in Mt Kenya and Kalenjin.
It' over

Shma2022:
Rvp,

We're together on this until baba the fifth hits 51%. I don't want to miss any bit of drama. ;

Currently, Raila is winning with 50.4%
Ruto is not far away at 49%.

As at 9:20 kenyan time - about 40% of all polling stations have submitted their data
https://forms.iebc.or.ke/#/

Kenya Election Update -The Mainstream Media that is part of State Capture had their candidate - now they are in fix to continue or stop broadcasting the nightmare

Citizen tally
Candidate Votes (%) Party
WILLIAM SAMOEI RUTO 52,756 (62.05%) UDA
RAILA ODINGA 31,292 (36.80%) AZIMIO
GEORGE LUCHIRI WAJACKOYAH 349 (0.41%) ROOTS
DAVID MWAURE WAIHIGA 196 (0.23%) AGANO

The Hustler Revolution in Kenya has overthrown the dynasties. All that remain is for Ruto to finish them.

Shma - I just came back from supermache here carrefour like kenya; and now I have my beers chilled and I am prepared to relax

Ruto nows at 61 percent as Raila moves to 38 percent. The massacre is happening live. Kenyans are determined to finish the dynasties - the families who hijacked the independence - the Mois, Kenyattas, Odingas - and their lackeys are finished.

Ruto is very very brutal. I see the exit flight this week from all fatcats. Their big mistake was to line up and attempt to lynch someone who started as chicken seller...someone so brilliant...someone so hardworking...a terrific talent like WSR

WSR will take Kenya to next level - because he is the next Meles Zenawi.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGAf2OpnOb4

https://elections.citizen.digital/

It over for Raila - from now it full nightmare - Mt Kenya are going 85% for Ruto - and Kalenjin are going 85% on turnout & 98% for Ruto - that is normally a nightmare enough - but now Luo Nyanza had low turnout - and rest are terrible. Ruto likely to win with 60% of the vote against Raila 40%.

RUTO
57.42%
RAILA ODINGA
RAILA
42.4%

Kenya Election Update - Azimio folks - your nightmare just about started.

Relax - only Raila areas have reported - because they had very low turnout. I will give you an exit prediction based on sample of results in less than an hour. Ruto is doing well in Mt kenya...turnout is good...and in Kalenjinland it blowout. That should already tell you Ruto is above 50% (refer to 2013).

Wuoche:
Rvp

kenya Election Update: Election results coming in fast and furious.

High turnout in Kalenjinland(80-85%), No result from Luo Nyanza(strange- could be 2007 ploy), medium turnout in Mt kenya, everywhere else is very low
1) NEP - 50-50
2) Coast - Raila leading amongst Mijikenda - Ruto leading in others.
3) Ukambani - Raila leading but Ruto doing very well
4) Matusa - Raila leading.
5) Kalenjin - Ruto scoring 98% up from 92% for Uhuru
6) Mt Kenya - Ruto scoring 85%. THIS BIG ONE.
7) Western - Ruto doing very well in Bungoma(80%) - and 40% in Busia.
No seen results from Luos and Gusii.

Kenya Election - Look like it will be very low turnout - 60% percent maybe

IEBC reporting 56% - excluded those on the queue - about 12M voters - at 4PM.

It's now 6 and most polling station are closing - and results will stream in live in about an hour.

I see average of 75% so far -
Meanwhile Ukambani I hear it's terrible.
Luo Nyanza I see Nyongo is asking for voting to be extended.
Western is even worse.
As for rigging - with many ballots - not possible with hawk eyed agents.

From Ndindi Nyoro
https://twitter.com/NdindiNyoro/status/1557016243458252800
Voter turnout is highest in Rift, followed by Mt Kenya, then Nyanza. The margin and gap that H.E William Ruto will defeat his closest competitor will shock many people.

StivoH2022:
I think voter turn out might be less than 65% in Central.
...and the rigging might have already done, I've seen several complaints about one voter being given ten ballot papers