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lynk106: well, then you should have said:
acceptance is a sub-set of tolerance instead of tolerance is a sub-set of aceptance

those two sentences have different meanings.
like saying: a shirt is a kind of clothing vs clothing is a kind of shirt


seems like you slept through logical thinking 101

You are a person!

Not only do you need to purchase a dictionary, you also need to get a tutor on reading.

Go back up and show me where I said acceptance is a sub-set of tolerance.

lynk106: ex. I am a christian. I tolerate islam but do not accept islam. big difference.


Acceptance:
the action or process of being received as adequate or suitable, typically to be admitted into a group.

Tolerance:
the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

You are a person!

If you tolerate Islam, that means you accept Islam can be practiced. A sub-acceptance.

lynk106: Tolerance is NOT a sub-set of acceptance.

dictionary is your friend.

You are a person!

Tell me how you can accept something without tolerating it.

I am NEVER wrong when I call people fucktards. You are too stuuuuupid!

lynk106: well, your question makes no sense because your definition of deviancy is different from mine. You associate deviancy with crime whereas I associate it with societal morality.

Ex. Should we put cameras in peoples bedroom so that we can arrest a man for having anal sex with his wife (anal sex being a sexually deviant behavior) etc that would be dumb. Or arrest a gay man who has sex with a woman (deviant behavior) or arrest a straight man who has sex with a man (another deviant behavior). Role play during sex (deviant behavior). Or arrest a 80yr old man for having sex with a 18 yr old girl (deviant behavior)etc

To me, sex between two consenting adult is legal and therefore whatever morality is associated with it is inconsequential whether I believe in it or not. Just because I don't agree with something doesn't mean I should persecute those who do it as long as my or others' space or property is not being violated then there should be no problem.


Look on this wikipedia page to read about measures of progressiveness. It has more to do with human rights.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism

You are a person.

Show me where I stated that I associate deviancy with crime.

Johnpaul88: Guy pls leave that sagamite. You should see he doesn't know what to ask again. You have attended to all his questions yet he sticks around to enjoy our company. Hahahahahahaha

So you are of the fucktardism school of cretins that advocate accepting equals receiving?

Johnpaul88: You don't know anything jare!

Give me facts na!

Shebi you have found "facts"?

lynk106: Well accepting something implies "receiving" and when you receive someone, you receive them as a guest, friend, member of a social circle etc. maybe you meant to say "tolerance" instead of "acceptance"
Dictionary is your friend (pun intended)

Acceptance:
the action or process of being received as adequate or suitable, typically to be admitted into a group.

Tolerance:
the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

You are a person!

I said it: There is no post you make that does not expose your fucktardism. It is like if one is engaging with Scun.

So if I accept that Iraq is not a safe place, then that means I am "receiving"?

person!

Tolerance is a sub-set of Acceptance. When I said "acceptance", I meant acceptance.

Now you see why I said my IQ has triple your and Scun's IQ digits?

So, person, you see that it is you that needs to accept (which in your moronic head means "befriend" ) the dictionary.

lynk106: well, your IQ must be very low then if you didn't see the answer. I even put it in in capital letters assuming you are a slowpole.
CONSENT. duh.

what is the difference between a 80yr old man having sex with a 18 yr old girl. which is more perverted? hahahahah there you are with your answer.

By law, children do not have the mental capacity to consent to sex. a gay man r.aping a child is just as guilty of crime as a straight man r.aping a child. so pedophilia and homosexuality are in no way related.

You are a person!

You are trying to divert by employing strawman on someone with an IQ that has 3 times the amount of digits your IQ will score.

Here is the first question I am still waiting for an answer to:

So by accepting deviancy is a measure of progressiveness and being progressive?

lynk106: hahahhaha you fail. We are not here to convince you to accept homosexuality.
Most pro-gay rights proponents are there to prevent homosexuals from being persecuted by society and shut out of societal institutions. No one is forcing you to make friends with gay. In fact, I doubt any gay in their right mind will want you as a friend. shior.

You are a person!

I am never wrong when I use that term on people.

Since when did someone stating "accept" equal an advocacy of being "friends with"?

You are just way too dumb to be talking. There is no post you make that does not expose your fucktardism. It is like if one is engaging with Scun.

lynk106: Did you hear about the child bride law in Nigeria's constitution? Well apparently in Nigeria, it is ok to marry a 12 yr old child but being gay is a crime. what do you say about that?
The main distinguishing factor in my eyes is CONSENT. a child does not have the capacity for consent therefore it is a crime to have sex with a child. Even gay people who have sex with children should be jailed.
but when sex is between two consenting adults then it is NONE OF MY BUSINESS.
there are many heterosexual couples with women who have anal sex. etc. which I think is disgusting but i don't believe that it should be a crime. but when it is being forced aka R.APE. then definitely it is a crime.

I will bet that at least 70% of all men have peedophilic tendencies. But the law prevents things from happening. Imagine in biblical times, it was the norm for girls as young as 12 yrs old to be married. Even in middle east. So should we say all middle eastern men are pedophiles? I guess s by western standards. Same with most northern nigerian men.
I mean even in the west you have rich 60 yr old men marrying 18 yr old girls. It is only law that is preventing them from going younger

lynk106: answer this question: do you think a 60 yr old man marrying/having sex with/attracted to a 18 yr old girl is deviancy?
In modern times in the west, it is deviancy. but in ages past, it was the norm. In some third world countries, it is still the norm.

homosexuality was considered deviancy decades ago but today, the state I live in voted in support of gay marriage. it is now accepted in my state and society as a whole is recognizing it.

You are a person!

Don't ever think you can strawman me, I am not a person like Scun.

What I asked you was:

"So you know sex and attraction are 2 different things?

So what makes homosexuality different from paedophilia, necrophilia and likes?"

Answer the gaddamn questions.

Give me "facts".

Johnpaul88: That's what you use to begin any kind comment you make. Check all your posts !
As a matter of fact, will you believe me if i tell you that as a gay guy, i have never had sex before with any guy? You won't believe that & i don't expect you to since you have a very wrong conception of this whole thing called gay. You are not sure of anything.

You are a person then!

So you mean when I call a lot of people on NL "fucktards", that means I am calling homosexuals fucktards?

That is how your brain interpret things? That is your "fact"?

I wait for more "facts".

Johnpaul88: You really know the roots! Glad we have someone like you on our side!

Sagamite is arguing based on hearsay! He's never cared to find the facts himself & that'll continue to be his undoing!

Really?

Sagamite is arguing based on hearsay, he never cared to find the facts himself?

Okay, why don't you educate me on the "facts", lets compare it to my "hearsay" since I am the one known for lacking facts.

Start by telling me why we should accept homosexuality.

*Ah, I am going to enjoy this*

Johnpaul88: Please would you mind stopping this person you call gays? It makes me lose interest in everything you say!

Where did you see me call homosexuals fucktards?

I wait for you to highlight the place.

lynk106: hahaha love between a man and a woman is not a manufactured feeling. so why should love between a man and a man be called an unnatural/ manufactured feeling? you see how that logic makes no sense.

marriage is an institution. It was not based on romantic love. Even now in places like india and even many rural places in Nigeria, many marriages are still arrangements between parents of the couple.
Only richer older men get to pick who they marry. which explains why you see things like child brides.

the concept of people picking their partners and marrying whomever they choose is very modern. less than 250 yrs old in Nigeria and less than 500 yrs old in the western world. Why do you think Romeo and Juliet was written?

Even when you read the bible, it is very clear that marriage was an arrangement made when a man became financially rich enough to pick a wife and he doesn't need her consent to marry her.
This would be considered immoral in today's society.

You are a person!

Since when did you start thinking unnatural and manufacture mean the same thing?

Answer that before I read the rest of your junk.

And don't think we are still not going to go back to "So by accepting deviancy is a measure of progressiveness and being progressive?".

Never think you can dodge questions from Sagamite.

lynk106: don't mind the fool.
he can't wrap his mind around the fact that sex and attraction are two different things.

A straight man having gay sex to me is perverted.
just the way a gay man having straight sex is perverted.

straight = attracted to the opposite sex
gay= attracted to same sex.

I bet he will go into convulsion when he finds out that gay virgins exist. since so many like him equate gayness with sex. well duh. if you are straight, it will be perverted to have gay sex. but that should be normal if you are gay.

You are a person!

So you know the lecture I was about to give. So you know sex and attraction are 2 different things?

So what makes homosexuality different from paedophilia, necrophilia and likes?

lynk106: well, the word sex did not show up in your original post.
People say that homosexuality is a western concept. But guess what? Love and romance are also western concepts.
The basis of marriage in Africa as an institution based on love is a western concept.
In the past, you got married based on financial arrangements made by parents etc. People were not allowed to freely love. Free love (choosing your own partner was a perversion).
Only rich old men had rights to pick their own wives.
what you call deviancy is deviancy to you because you probably grew up in a society where that was something you were not exposed to.

You are a person.

Are you saying attraction and showing interest in your partner is a Western concept?

They manufactured feelings?

African marriages are not based on love?

And in the past, Western marriages were not based on financial arrangements?

Are you really this reetarded?

Let me deal with that before I come to the rest of your junk.

You are really, really thick. Are you sure you are not related to Scun?

Johnpaul88: If you continue to liken gay with those rubbish you mentioned up their, then you clearly does not know what gay is.
No need to keep wasting invaluable time with you!

What is homosexuality then?

Johnpaul88: But the Church sees things differently now. They'll no longer persecute the likes of Galileo because they have now seen the incontrovertible facts he was arguing. I believe they need time in order to set aside their initial belief on certain things including gay & other touchy matters. I believe they'll soon begin to see it differently. Even now, the Pope is becoming less sure on what side he really stands. He's been very reluctant to categorically take a stand & that can be a very encouraging sign. Give them another 10 more years & gays will be weded in the catholic church & in extension, other churches!

What rubbish!

First of all, this Pope is playing politics.

Secondly, what he stated (and which was obviously twisted by the pro-homosexual Western press) was that he could not judge homosexuals because they did not select their sexuality. Which makes sense. Not "lets embrace homosexuality" as the Western press tried to portray it as part of the "change movement" propaganda.

sCun: ....and he repeats it! A typo is ruled out then.
Product of a failed education system.

You are a person!

Run before I get you.

Lagos have said they will not accept you in their schools anymore.

sCun: Piss poor grammar!

person, shut up and go find a way of developing your brain.

kolawaxxy: These schmucks are at it again. We know she did this and that but let me ask you, did she do all the afore mentioned with her personal money? No! She is simply doing what she was chosen to do. I know most of the mo.rons who come here to shout "stella must stay" only do so to make the yorubas angry.

This guy said it all:

https://www.nairaland.com/1506744/indian-bosses-nigeria-bad/11#19498986

To products of a failed education system, mediocrity is an achievement. And that fucktardism is what the paid author of this article is trying to play on.

lynk106: deviance suggests something that does not follow the standard of the norm. ie minority.
the minority are ALWAYS persecuted in society reason being that they are a easy scapegoat/target.
the exception being if they are a powerful minority group in which most of the case they are not. there is power in numbers.

Socrates was sentenced to death in his time. His crime: defiance.
Galileo, Jesus Christ, Copernicus, Pythagoras, Newton etc guess what they all have in common? They had ideas that were against the norm and they were sentenced to death for it.

Jesus was deviant in his days. remember that. He was a progressive. He turned tradition upside down. The religious people (pharisees and Sadducee) were actually his worst enemy.

You are a person!

So you are classifying intelligence and religious origination as deviancy?

Who do you think you are speaking to?

When we talk about sexual deviancy, we are talking about sexual perversion.

So are paedophiles, necrophilics, hebephiles, beastials etc being "discriminated" against? They are "easy scapegoats/targets" because they are a minority.

Try again and don't come up with BS when you are talking to me: So by accepting deviancy is a measure of progressiveness and being progressive?

lynk106: Define conservative/traditionalism
so, now, tell me what the opposite of conservative is!

modernism/progress
BINGO.

You are a person!

Do you think I am intellectually at your level to apply propagandish self-titling because "well, that is what people say"?

I ask again: So by accepting deviancy is a measure of progressiveness and being progressive?

lynk106: Are you seriously this dumb not to know what the term "Progressive" refers to?
How can you even engage in the most basic political discussion without knowing what progressivism means. Do you even vote at all?
When someone says "progressive candidate" you wouldn't even understand what they mean. ie pro-gay rights, pro-women rights, pro-science, pro-minority rights, pro-environmental rights, social activism, anti-slavery, liberal etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism

Immanuel Kant identified progress as being a movement away from barbarism towards civilization. 18th century philosopher and political scientist Marquis de Condorcet pre­dicted that political progress would involve the disappearance of slavery, the rise of literacy, the lessening of in­equalities between the sexes, reforms of harsh prisons and the decline of poverty. etc

You are a person!

I knew I was going to enjoy this.

So by accepting deviancy is a measure of progressiveness and being progressive?

Because fucktards like you say it means I should accept it?

This is Nigeria for you:

http://www.punchng.com/opinion/the-shame-called-murtala-muhammed-international-airport/

Run by Nigerians.

The guy nailed it from beginning to the end. It was like if I wrote it. The core difference was he did not use fucktards, cretins and moorons which makes it clear I did not write it.

As much as I love every single sentence, I particularly love the ending parts:

"Even with all the money in the world, our airports and our country will not work as long as we do not have people who care about excellence. Caring about excellence means knowing that Nigerians deserve the best all the time. When we reserve the rights citizens of other countries take for granted, upgrade such to privileges for our citizens, we will always miss the point of making things work. Nigerians deserve more but as long as we have people – including the President – dancing on national TV because a road contract has been awarded, we’d always have a situation where mediocrity will remain the norm. Would anyone say the Lagos-Ibadan Expressway is the mess it is because of money? Nay. It is what it is because we are who we are. We have become a people accustomed to seeing nothing work."

lynk106: You are very dumb. If you live in a progressive country or state, homosexuality is 10000x better than in Naija.
Scandinavian countries for example (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland etc) are more progressive than in southern europe (Italy, Portugal, Spain, Greece etc)
In the USA, the northern states are more progressive than the southern states. If you live in a backward, southern, republican state Alabama, Texas or Mississippi, then I can understand why you believe that homosexuality isn't accepted by the general public. But if you live in a state like Washington or Massachusetts or Iowa or New York then you must be out of your mind to think gays are outcasts. LOL they are NOT. Homophobes like you will not be able to survive in urban cities of progressive states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_States
same sex marriage is recognized through POPULAR VOTE. meaning people like me go out and vote and we win. Northern US states predominate the list for a reason. we are progressive.

Progressive? What a moronic use of the term.

Please educate me what makes them progressive?

[quote author=Mrs.Chima]Did you get your crayon sharpened? [/quote]God forbid bad thing.

You people can never make me a real man.

I use my eyes, ears and brain. I no be mugu.

[quote author=Ore_MI_22]/\/\/\
Shebi i made it clear that i want objective analysis here. Only coconut heads use foul language on other people because they cannot articulate their argument.

Please those who have nothing upstairs should stay away from this thread. I just want the intelligent people on both sides of the argument to dissect the issues raised in the article.
I thank una o![/quote]You are a person!

If you think you can come here as a paid agent, I will send you back to you employers to tell them "E be like say this job go hard for NL o".

[quote author=12 inches!]You're talking off point please. I have compared tai2 post with my life experiences and have found it to be 99.9% correct.[/quote]GBAM!

She is just mis-training now.

Trying to create the next generation of Mugus, so bare with her.

[quote author=Mrs.Chima]And men will never accept that they need help and guidance on how to be men.

It doesn't come natural and it's obvious by some comments. ....the type of role models they have grown up with.

An uncomplete man seek control to fill the void of what he lacks internally.

Fact.[/quote]Real Men mugus, start jotting down notes.

Lecture don start.

[quote author=IGBO-SON]And the animals that did this would 'chop' the loot with a clear conscience and also go to bed and sleep well? In this world there are human beings and then souless beasts in human form!

They don't stop to think that this poor man minding his business and hustling for his daily bread has a wife, kids, parents and siblings that love him dearly and would be at home waiting for him to come back from a hard days work.....and then these bastards come along and mindlessly ruin many lives for ever over a few thousand naira worth of loot?[/quote]And some fucktards will come and start screaming "the death sentence is barbaric".

All because they heard it somewhere and thought it sounded "funky".

[quote author=mama-gee][color=deeppink]100 kidnappers in a state and those are just the ones that were caught?

Now I know why they say there is no safe place to stay in Nigeria[/color][/quote]You are still alive on NL?