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DerideGull: Where were you, a still-born maggot, when goons such as Fami Fani-Kayode and Olusegun Agagu were the ministers of aviation? These moronic dingbats were not only pitifully incompetent but publicly acclaimed corruptive characters.

Screwballs such as you and bloody ilk who knew nothing about basic denotation of the word-corruption had failed to hang the silly tag over Stella Oduah's neck. Now it seems noteworthy for jackasses to explore the lanes of incompetence. What a hammerhead.

You are a pure person!

Why are you telling me about Fami Fani-Kayode and Olusegun Agagu, cretin?

[quote author=Chima_Agbalajob]What i LOVE so much about Princess Oduah is that she did not give in to blackmail and intimidation from a segment of the press. Although she was already a multimillionaire before she agree to serve under GEJ's government, if she had resigned out of anger or her ego, the faceless proponents of the media blackmail would have won and they will then be emboldened to continue to use that tactics against any public office holder who they didn't approve of.

[size=15pt]GOD BLESS YOU PRINCESS ODUAH FOR PUTTING THEIR EVIL PLOTS TO SHAME![/size][/quote]You are a person!

bukatyne: Thanks, I am blushing

We have had our issues but we thank God

I am not giving 'young guys' wrong advise

There are good girls out there; they might some issues (cheating, lying, etc. are not issues) but they might just be rough diamonds that need a little polishing, same with the guys too.

Sincerity, honesty, openness and love helps a lot in a relationship/marriage.

When a man is in love, he gives his all...

P.S.: What is shocking?

Shocking is the highlighted red.

[quote author=Mrs.Chima]You this mugu.

Well I wub you! Don't tell Jaybee! [/quote]

bukatyne: March next year will make it 8yrs together .

Funny enough, I have never done any of those stuffs on your list

I learnt quite early not to be rude to guys because they ask me out. It's only guys who know I have someone that pisses me off.

I even have a 'I appreciate your interest in me because you saw something in me but I am I have someone/ engaged' line I use for guys.

A lot of people have called me mumu because I do not collect gifts from men I have nothing in common with.

Not everyone is the same

Okay, don't talk anymore and be giving young boys wrong advise.

99% of women are not like you. They do the opposite of everything you stand for and don't compare to you.

Now, the highlighted red is what is called "classy".

bukatyne: Lol! I don't agree

However, you must have deal breakers.

My guy and I love each other so much but we both know that cheating and abuse is the deal breakers. No need for begging or stories that touch . We also have review meetings where we discuss how we have behaved and areas of improvement.

WE BOTH KNOW THAT WE ARE UNSACKABLE AND NO BACKUP THAT'S WHY WE BOTH PUT OUR BEST INTO IT

For now na!

I know all these things, buka, buka.

That is the rule for now when you seem very happy.

He will most likely adhere to the rules and think it is set in stone, while you can change it anytime you want because "women are complex".

What you are practising now is number 11. When you are not happy anymore, then we will most likely see you engage in number 5, number 10 and number 11.

https://www.nairaland.com/962850/ladies-which-these-dating-evils

And if you are a very bad girl, maybe even number 6.

I have said it all before about what women will do tomorrow and what they will do when they stop loving you.

https://www.nairaland.com/13568/prenuptial-agreements/5#6974151

Only a man that has not come of age will judge a woman by what she is doing today or what she is doing while she loves him.

I am Sagamite. I am old when it comes to those terms. My coming of age is almost 50 years old now.

[quote author=Mrs.Chima]Well...many have loved those who have never loved them.[/quote]Well, many have strong enemies without any protection. Enemies who have cursed them and the curse is working.

I have strong juju from Sagamu that protects me to the point such would never be my case.

lovat: 100 human lives to be wasted by govt. It reminds me of the word lawful genocide.

You are a person!

Product of a failed education system.

Go to a good school and maybe you will end up knowing the meaning of genocide. Cretin!

bukatyne: He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord...

P.S. I know you are not a Christian

Thank God you know that.

Sincere 9gerian: I have bad news for haters. Stella Oduah stays! There is nothing anybody can do about that.

Those who insist Stella Oduah should be sacked should ponder on the following:

1. How come there is suddenly billions of naira for the ministry of aviation to embark on the massive projects we can SEE at all the 22 Airports across the nation? Where was all these money going into in the last 2 decades that we SAW NO activity in the aviation sector?

2. The NASS did not approve any fund for Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) for the year 2013 but SEC has been running smoothly through its internally generated revenue. So if SEC can spend its internally generated revenue without NASS approval, why not NCAA? That notwithstanding, we now know that the NASS approved N240 million or so for NCAA to buy vehicles in 2013. We also know that NCAA has spent only about N52 million for the purchase of vehicles so far based on the funding arrangement with First Bank. The controversy now is that armoured cars was not expressly stated in the budget or that the procurement did not go through BPP or FEC.

3. What is the definition of corruption? How does the purchase of armoured cars amount to corruption? Does the breach of any law amount to corruption? Never! Corruption is used only when laws are breached to ensure personal gains. And as far as we know, all the vehicles bought by NCAA, FAAN, etc were bought in the name of the various organisations and NONE in the name of the minister. Also, the vehicles are meant for the operations of these agencies. So those who are in a hurry to nail the minister and crucify her should stop ABUSING the word "corruption".

4. Is there any proof that the cost of the 2 armoured was inflated? None. In fact, what we've seen so far are people desperate to nail the minister comparing the prices of apples and oranges.

In the conclusion, the minister of aviation may by guilty of administrative lapses or improper supervision as it concerns the purchase of those vehicles but she is NEVER guilty of corruption. If she is sacked today or tomorrow or she steps down anytime, she'll never go with vehicles bought or registered in the name of NCAA or FAAN. Oduah Stella is not synonymous with NCAA. NCAA armoured vehicles belongs to NCAA, not Oduah.

You are a person!

So a Minister with such, as you claimed, "administrative lapses or improper supervision" should stay and manage the, as you claimed, "billions of naira for the ministry of aviation to embark on the massive projects"?

You are a person!

So we should leave such an irresponsible person (whom you claim is not corrupt, just incompetent) to waste more billions by paying 4 times the true value of the projects?

[quote author=Ore_MI_22]So what do you guys think?

Only objective discussions, no tribal e warriors allowed.

Do you agree this whole crisis was hatched by some hawks afraid of Princess Oduah's legendary achievements in the aviation sector or she is guilty as charged ?[/quote]What do I think?

The author is a hungry person that has been paid.

Except one can get the author, who claims to be called Oluwole Bakare although I suspect that might not be the real name, to come on NL and debate with me, then there is no point debating further than that. Just accept the author is a cretinous person.

rafhell: SHE IS OLD.

Old or not old, she still looks hot.

For her age, she looks very good.

I just checked her age on Wikipedia as I don't know anything about her, and she sure looks up to 8 years younger.

AjanleKoko: Aha.
You're now right where we have been since the beginning of this thread.

An exaggerated sense of self-importance, a serious case of entitlement-mentality, and a total lack of vision. That's the problem of the Nigerian working-class.
Indians are merely good at working the system, wherever they find themselves. In fact, it's the crudest of the lot that find themselves in Nigeria on a regular basis. My LinkedIn inbox is perennially bombarded by Indian CVs.

Of course I have worked consistently with Indians over the last 15 years to not give a crap about them, or be particularly impressed with them. But we Nigerians are so bad at packaging and positioning ourselves, it's just pathetic. There's a fundamentally-flawed assumption that Nigerians are naturally talented and hardworking. Nothing could be further than the truth. The hustling mentality is way to pervasive, and will prevent much quality from emerging. In fact most times it is shyt that floats - tough-talking nuccas

Let me even use Logica's stated area of specialization; software development. The very good companies or individuals are so few and so much in high demand, it is ridiculous. I once tried to hire someone and train the person in user interface design outside Nigeria, but the people I saw were more interested in the remuneration that whatever the job was about. Almost all candidates were entirely unsuitable, and many were unwilling.

I've had to resort to Indian or Eastern European companies for many development assignments.

So Nigerians should stop wailing about Indians or other employers. My dad used to say that, at some point in your career, you might find yourself working for the devil himself. Suck it up and learn from him is his recommendation, considering that since he's the devil, he obviously has something worth learning about, or some skill worth acquiring.

Worst breed of employees as I have frequently highlighted to clients: The unable and unwilling bunch.

The ones you gladly and unreservedly recommend for the sack or redundancy at the earliest opportunity except the can find, asap, a different function in the organisation they are more interested in and can do.

sCun: ''do'' is the correct word to use there.
Product of a failed education system.

person, you honestly need to buy a dictionary and hire a private English tutor.

sCun: only in your filthy dreams.

Nigerian universities are producing fucktards like you and the country is stalling.

No doubt you are one of the fucktards I was referring to hating on SA and Ghana.

logica: Aha, your history lesson is not complete. Most of the success and prosperity India currently enjoys today trace directly back to the PC and software boom of the 80s especially Microsoft, IBM and several other major players in the IT industry. They just so happened to discover they could recruit Indians to do several of these jobs and at lower costs. And they simply stuck to this tried and tested formula: "You need cheap technical labor? Go to India".

I can draw an analogy between this and a football club called Espanyol in Spain. They employed goalkeeper Thomas Nkono (a Cameroonian) in the 80s. Because of his performance, they then employed another Cameroonian goalkeeper (Idris Kameni) in 2004. They had found a formula. This kind of action is common in football and in fact other areas of human endeavor: Newcastle had found a formula in a (preferably tall) strong African lone striker, like Levante. "Tried and tested" is the watch word. Now if Espanyol had tried a Nigerian and he did well like Nkono, they would forever be searching for Nigerian goalkeepers. But does this prove the Cameroonian goalkeeper is superior to other African goalkeepers in general? I think not.

So yes, the Indians capitalized on the situation and turned it into an industry: making labor available to the US.

What absolutely clunking rubbish!

So you mean companies like IBM, Microsoft, Apple, Oracle etc who would have elite students as corporate strategists do not do any assessment of all alternatives and just follow an historical trend?

They go and spend millions on setting up bases in Bangalore without any analysis of options and justification of selected option apart from "well we have used this one before and it did not fail"?

And you think, coincidentally, all these companies staff have a "group think"? They all became mumus that decided to all go to India without an assessment of benefit maximisation relative to costs? They just all mumuishly decided to stick with one country while countries like Nigeria were equally capable and do not have inferior IT professionals on average?

You clearly don't understand how strategic decisions are made and you are making an assumption.

My friend, serious assessments are done on issues like this. It is just not a scenario of some CEO and Directors sitting their arsses somewhere and pulling unreasoned executive decisions from their whims. Here is an example I gave earlier:

https://www.nairaland.com/507378/nigeria-close-population-disaster-british/2#6693852

LeJeun3: Defeatist attitude........... I have learnt that it doesn't work.

How is that a defeatist attitude?

Explain.

Venchy: Good work ethics and ambitious for DEVELOPMENT while our leaders are busy looting public fund.

One more thing you forgot to mentioned is HEALTH CARE.....now, Nigerians are flying to India for medical treatment because we can't diagnose NOTHING, Madela never stepped out of South Africa for treatment but Nigerian politicians and their family flies out for dislocation of wrist.

Very serious matter, Jonathan dey Yab, Oduah dey mess and there's no CAR PARK at MM AIRPORT.....This are the reason why.

But yet some of our fucktards would fight you for not speaking proudly of Nigeria. For having the audacity of not thinking it is Giant of Africa.

And these fucktards because of their inferiority complex are always hating on South Africa and even Ghana now (as Ghana is beginning to leave them behind), instead of focusing their negative energy on the fucktards ruling them (which I bet majority of them voted for).

stoned: "All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident"
Arthur Schopenhauer ...

And what stages does all false/rubbish go through?

sCun: When the strike is called off, do not be surprised if the schools start exams two weeks after without covering the course outlines. Some of these so called lecturers only lecture once in a semester, but when it is time for exams, their questions are there waiting for yoy. I know we love criticising the govt, but we need to hold our university lecturers to ransome too, they are by no means perfect. Infact, 50% of the problems in our universities can be traced to them.

sCun: Did you see where I wrote ''we need to hold them to ransome''? Or are you another of the brainless professors?

person, it is "ransom".

No point doing anything now, your lecturers and the Nigerian government have already destroyed your life. Your anatomical thinking faculty is dead as I have repeatedly proven on NL.

Johnpaul88: Na so na
hahahahahahaha

carry go jare! Let haters who can barely feed continue to die hating while we continue to be happy

As long as you do your stuff in Western countries, everyone will be happy.

We have said no in Naija, they have offered all of you stay. Take it.

[quote author=2sexy.us]errrmmmm... Who should love first? The man or the woman?[/quote]Obviously responsibility should always be the man's.

dmcdad: In my earlier post I stated it categorically that there are good ones even though they are relatively few. Its good you know sex is a mutual thing, unlike the vast majority of ladies that think they are doing men a favour by having sex with em. Also, a very good number won't offer sex for nothing (by nothing of course you know I mean money), they would want some sought of financial gain for them to put their backs to the ground irrespective of whether they are in a relationship with the guy or not...

As for chasing a woman with some control tactics, if you relate with the topic with an open mind you would discover that these tactics ain't bad afterall. They are there to keep the ladies on their toes owing to the fact that women are hardwired to be controlled in a certain way. When I say control, I mean in a certain way, to keep their awkward attitudes at bay while also showing them the love and care they deserve.

A very good friend(married) told me an honest truth sometime ago. She said on no account should I allow a woman to have her ways as much as she needs. Else, no matter how good that woman is or was before then, she would more often than not take advantage of me and start misbehaving whether intentionally or not. This lady is a very good wife for the records. She told me this because she felt I was kinda soft in handling issues with her and letting her have her way (although I cleared her doubts pronto cause as much as I am very linient and kind in treating people, I am very principled to the core and don't tolerate trash from anyone).

In a nutshell, every woman (good or bad) needs to be guided with true control. True control in this case has a lot of positives when looked via a broad spectrum. If you look at it from a selfish or a bias standpoint, then negativity will be written all over it. True control is good as it helps the man to remain the dominant force between the two (which is normal by nature), but doing some of the aforementioned of true control to the extreme is where the problem lies as it will have a negative effect on the union.

Therefore, there should be a fine line between attaining true control in a sensible and reasonable state as opposed to taking it to the extreme and doing it awkwardly and unreasonably.

GBAM!

Any man that does not realise this has not reached a mental age that qualifies him for a coming-of-age ritual.

As I have always said, for an attractive girl you are not married to, if you let her feel/know she is unsackable, then you are basically on notice because you have lost her.

Some would "No, that is just rubbish. How can that even make sense" because it sounds so illogical. When you come of age, you will know the illogical is what actually works logically with women with a high number & variety of choices. Most men don't know this, that is why most men never date hot girls and some select few men have them in abundance.

bukatyne: There are good ones out there, you will find them by God's grace. and when you find her, don't chase her with your control tactics; a girl with healthy self esteem will not stay.

A woman does not bring s.ex to the table; it is a mutual thing except if the man is paying her for it then she is a wh.ore

Find her?

Why not she come and find me?

Why not women take responsibility for once?

dmcdad: My dear, the problem is that; both the men that instigate the approach and the ladies they approach know nothing about some pre-conceived feelings nowadays. A guy approaches a lady because he wants to sleep with her and a lady says yes to whatever proposals the guy brings to the fore because she knows she would be well rewarded financially. So, you can see that both sexes are guilty of going into relationships without the original or actual feeling or attraction so-to-say that should be there as a pre-requisite.

Nevertheless, there are still those that still do it the right way. The disturbing fact is; how many of these compared to the vast majority?

Nowadays?

That is how it has been from time immemorial.

At least on this living Earth o, not on the pages of fantasy novels like Mills & Boons.

boay: Tgirl4real
Please consider this carefully

If you release all the debaters' arguments at once wont that be too much for WE the audience to read, study, and learn from. Because some may not read through because it will be too cumbersome.

To respond to the earlier stated reason why all debaters' arguments will be release at once:::::::::Can't you block ALL JUDGES ALONE from viewing this topic while we the audience read and enjoy the competion? You can unblock them when you want to, so as to enable them assess the debaters arguments.

Sorry, I am only trying to make things easier for you and we the audience. Thanks

You think say Nairaland is that sophisticated?

Anyway, good point!.

Maybe batch (of 3) release every 6-24 hours would make some sense, so as not to overwhelm a potential reader.

lorretta u: Well so do a lot of folks in this forum apparently.
At this rate I guess we'll all have someone to visit in prison

Anyway stop looking for 50's trouble o
I no dey o.

They are all fucktards that need their heads smashed.

bukatyne: Now you are seeing the bigger picture

I hope the value the real man is adding is not only money sha....

Some men need to soft pedal hustling money and start hustling their women

I was just pulling your legs on the Abacha food; I was actually referring to Gen. Sanni Abacha

Me? Any girl that falls out of line, will fall out of place.

I am not a real man and I know I am the MVP.

I did not come on Earth to live my life to please a woman and I do not need to live my life to please any woman.

I have the societal, biological and intellectual assets to afford living my life enjoyably with minimal risk and in my best interest, any woman that wants me to please her would have to know it would mostly be on my terms.

bukatyne: Enu lo ni! Lol!

So you just see a woman and walk up to her?

Or you have microscope to read women's minds?

Emi? (Me?)

Mo le nu. Mo mor pe mo lenu. (I get mouth. I no say I get mouth.)

I test women from the word go and within 3 meetings I no which category of my mating interaction she would fall into.

Small, small tests and study and read them. I read her the fck out!

I have a knowledge of psychology more than her, so I know what she is going to do while she is thinking it. It helps to be a non-conforming maverick that does what HE wants, not follow some moronic societal expectation.

Why you think say I could acquire a PhD in Womantology?

bukatyne: And does a man respect a woman because she has a V? She must be adding value too to earn his respect

Have you eaten African salad aka Abacha before?

Maybe I have eaten but don't know what it is called.

Yes, many men kissed the arsse of women because they have been systematically nurtured to think you are suppose to just respect women. They are called "Real Men". The women might add value to their lives but the value is usually far less than the value these men are hustling to give the women all for a pat on the back and called a "real man". They live for this affirmation because they are trained that is what is expectd of them.

It is very similar to the women that are trained to remain with a man that they do not love and beats the fck out of them all because they think a good girl does not leave her marital home.

It is all some form of mugusology.

djfiifi: Damn hot!

Damn right.

She is tetra paked with juice, men.

bukatyne: A woman loves a man that loves her.

You must have feelings (which would later mature to love) before you approach a girl, not so?

God forbid I ever give myself to such a woman.

bukatyne: One viral picture about a woman who saves a suicidal husband by his boxers

What does an average Nigerian man bring to the table apart from money?

I agree some women have entitlement mentality because they are 'women' which I completely frown at as I believe everyone should earn respect.

You will however agree that it's the default setting of the society: a man is respected because he is a man; a leader is respected because of his/her position. Don't be surprised Abacha had those who respected him.

I partially agree. Men are respected based on their status, achievement or position.

Not every man in society is respected. Actually majority are not respected.

In a courting interaction, a woman would not respect a man for purely being a man, she would respect him because of his status, achievement or position.

I don't yet understand the Abacha introduction.