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anulaxad: ok maybe I was overdoing things I just writing what I see and assume when I travel to nigeria. you yourself is person. you must have been bullied when you was young its why you're probably gay.

see one thing I know about Nigerian men is that they don't like insulting each other for no reason it is only a gay bast ard like yourself that will do so. as well what woman will date such a useless fellow who only looks to insult people.

me that has studied psychology I cant tell you must have been a tormented little boy who was brought up in such a way that stills scars you today.

please me a product of failed education system what you mean the one in nigeria. listen im not even born or raised in that God forsaking country.

it is your mother who is a product of a failed education system that's is why she is still a slut from since your battyself reached the earth.she the illiterate taught you by home school.

your slut of your mother can not identify who was your father because she's been have too many dicks up there bast ard.
sagamite its more like shag my ass gay bast ard person fockhead fuckang batty.

You are a person!

From your appalling sentence structuring, it is obvious you are not educated at all.

Fcking moronic illiterate.

I am not surprised. You have already giving us clues by describing your mother. Who would give a child brought up in a wwhore-house education and how will he know his father with so many customers coming through the doors?

DaLover: Child of inequity...those pictures you so desperately rely on are not the majority of the Niger delta population by any means....
But I understand your evil motive for relying /clinging on to those footages you saw as reality...

People of your type and persuasion need justification and reasons to show that the oil found in the nigerdelta cannot be mined by the indigenes , you have to satisfy your wicked conscience that what the Nigerian state is doing is ok...

May the same Evil you wish others befall you!!

What the fck?

See the calibre of youths our education system is churning out!

A conjecture-throwing, evidence-poor, pure person!

What a moronic human being. smh

jidegirl12: ^^^^ I guess he's smarter!! I actually prefer the hierarchy system too..... Makes kids sit tight and aim high .... none here too .... just passed or not but the course scores are provided tho.

He wasn't smarter, I just had women on my libidocious mind.

When bleeding hearts become more vocal and their philosophies sound more funky and is labelled "civilised", it is the norm to change things in the West.

[quote author=Dolly-Parton]Thank u jare.
The extent at which people think these words made them who they are baffles me.
I dont know what positive impact does calling a child "useless" have on them
Or telling them they are failures
or comparing with other kids...I believe its a failure on a parents part, when they have to compare their kids with other kids to drive home their points to that kid.[/quote]Comparing kids is dependent on context. It might actually spur some kids.

The UK education system suffered a slight decline after they decided to stop giving kids class positions.

Comparisons can be a useful tool in life.

The Ghanaian murrafcker that was always topping in all subjects in my college at A-level, hence not allowing me be top of the school, was a challenge that spurred me to work harder.

I tried but never caught up with the murrafcker, he flogged me in every subject no matter how high my score was (he would get one mark better), he was just too good and disciplined. I spent a significant proportion of my time chepsing girls and recieving slaps.

https://www.nairaland.com/816612/o-ye-people/16#msg9863581

Comparisons can help, dependent on the personality.

[quote author=senbonzakura_kageyoshi]well, you would note that i said adapt, not throw away and adopt another. Adaptation involves keeping what can still work, chucking out what doesn't anymore and adopting some new ones that work in the current age and time. I have never said that all our traditional values don't work anymore. I'm just saying that some don't work anymore and need to be chucked out. Some of the ways we were brought did not take into cognizance the possibiliy of us picking up different values, systems and ideas from elsewhere and so can't deal with them. those need to be adapted to fit the current society.[/quote]Well said.

That is the genesis of the development of an "evolutionary child-rearing framework" right there.

Advanced developmental psychology formulation on NL.

jidegirl12: Sagamite ;

As much as I agreed with your first and second paragraphs and I do not agree with your third paragraph only if you based what the receptors ( kids) received from their environment as ONLY TV source , Nah , you can't be serious are you?

Why not open a thread for this and everybody can discuss ?

All those examples you stated are also not only deviated from just 'western' .....

What'd you say about people that don't even watch TV and don't have a relative abroad and turned out whacked?

The saying 'you're a product of your environment' just doesn't infer technology from the west .... a lot of factors falls into a failed upbringing .

Seen a lot bro ...... talking from experience

No 1, I said it earlier "it is a game of odds".

No 2, I never said that the African approach is water-tight in making kids well-behaved or has no negative receptors. Nor did I say its application would not generate different results on average across different social class.

The human being is a very complex being and anything that has to do with these human beings and their behaviours is complex. What I put forth is odds, some approaches have better odds than the other.

If you raise your kids as the backward, bush, monkey blacks (as our funky people would think), you have a better odd of raising a well-behaved kid.

If you raise your kid like the advance, beautiful, progressive, funky whites (as our funky people would think), you have a better odd of raising an innovative kid.

Both have odds giving you a certain outcome.

[quote author=senbonzakura_kageyoshi]Look, raising your kids the right way nowadays means adapting your methods of discipline to fit with the modern child. I'm even surprised that anyne can condone some of the things on that list. Even as an adult, noone wants to be called usesless. Why call your child useless? It is reflective of the old system we had that parents simply didn't care what or how their kids felt about their (the parents) actions; a period that gave birth to parents that chose their kids'spouses flogged them within an inch of their lives. Besides, fact is that, some of those things didn't work in the first place but maybe because some of our parents did them but we still turned out ok, we feel those were the things that made us succeed. Look, my parents comparing me with someone else never spurred me on to do better. If anything, it made me resent the person that they compared me with and get angry at my parents for thinking someone else's child is better than theirs....and that was when i was little, not in today's Nigeria.[/quote]Well said, but I disagree slightly.

Although you have to adapt, you can still use some of the old values by limiting their access to the kind of information you don't want (filtering their environment).

If all this Xtian fundmentals and Mormons can do the extreme form in the US, then you can do a softer one.

For one, I don't plan to have any of this cable/sky TV in my house when I have kids.

I don't plan to buy them a mobile phone at 10 years old.

I will vet the friends the hang with when they are young.

I even plan to move to a country with morals once they reach an age of character formation.

It will not be a perfect or water-tight approach in the world of instant and sparse information that we live in but I would attempt to be limiting. I can't control what they are exposed to when they go to school that might be bad for them but which they might like.

It is one of those unfortunate things in life that I have to bring up a kid that would mix with kids of people that have poor or funky parenting styles. But I will never throw my hands in the air and abnegate my parental responsibility of trying to shape them as best as possible.

Knowing about psychology and applying advanced techniques (I hope) will also help.

[quote author=senbonzakura_kageyoshi]TV is now part of the issue. Unlike before when parents actually spent time with their kids and could discipline them and monitor what they do, most parents in tday's Nigeria simply do not have that kind of time. So what d their kids do when their parents are not around? Most of them watch TV! If you examine your own life, you will realize that, without even knowing it, you have picked up one or two things from tv. How much more your kids who are still in the process of growing up?[/quote]I even see majority of mothers now, anytime the child is crying and too playful, put them in front of TV and put a programme for them to keep quiet.

The TV does the parenting and control.

[quote author=huni_naija]Like i said you're a waste of time, space and you should have been aborted by your ashi mama... I will not waste my time on an emotional beast who verbally abuses and insults females...

You need to be restrained and put down with a lethal injection.. You are a menace and a danger to society... You silly coonish buffoon![/quote]You are a person!

You don't have a point. That is the issue.

Cretin, what is special about females? Especially hoodrat, worthless, ill-brought-up skank ones? Foooool!

You are worthless to society and only a foool will let you raise his kids. You need to be placed in a ashawo-house and given free abortion so you at least get professional satisfaction.

Hopefully an STD will do the job Olopaa will not do and you will not raise another one like you.

[quote author=huni_naija]Again you're just a useless buffoon with no iota of common sense, pulling up nonsense from his infected brain.. If you're comprehension levels weren't comparable to that of an iguana lizard's your slow idiotic brain would have caught on as to what was being said...

You're too dumb, and you will die a black old foolish sod!! You belong in a home away from mentally stabled people, scratch that you belong in an asylum, before you infect the world with your diseased nonsensical reasoning... You coon...[/quote]You are a person!

You just keep on throwing insults that are more approapraite for your daft arsse?

Who lacks common sense? Who is pulling nonsense from their brain? Who lacks comprehension? Who is too dumb? Who sounds mentally unstable? Who should not be raising kids?

Cretin! You throw moronic insults because you know you have no point to make. Product of a failed education system that spent her time in the system doing ahsawao.

Foool!

jidegirl12: Is watching TV the main problem here or what?

It depends on how you raise your kid tho..... I don't see anything wrong with what huni_naija said tho.....

a kid will turn out good if well trained wether they watch tv or not.... it just has to be controlled and I meant the kind of shows and the duration they spend watching .....

Michelle Obama's kids don't watch TV during the week except weekends..... Obama thinks its too harsh and so are other Americans...... mine get 2hrs on school days .....

some kids don't even have TV (for religious purpose ) and they are just ridiculous !

you can't have peace when you have them over with their way of vocalization and how rough they play, very uncultured and unimaginable .

Please let's stop this back and forth and be adults.,,, just a discussion folks! People learn from these threads just so you know.

There is hardly any way you will raise your kids and expose them to powerful, influential medium like the TV that they will not be influenced by what is on it.

People are influenced by power and authority, and YOU WILL NOT be the only one that has such on your kids.

Furthermore, it is scientifically accepted that kids will rebel against parents. The rebellion is based on what their receptors have received from their environment (which does not only contain their parents except you plan to put them in a dungeon).

How many of us did not refuse to wear traditional attires when we were young because we thought Western attire was better?

How come many of us now see it as acceptable to kiss partners in public?

Are those the values our parents gave us?

Go and see the proportion of Western-raised Naija kids that will argue in favour of homosexuality, you think they got it from their parents?

You are right and said exactly what I said: "The more you filter the environment to skew towards your desired taste, the better". But this cretin said it does not matter, they can watch it all day and everyday it is what she teaches them that matters. And the fooool had the audacity to tell her God he is illogical!

[quote author=huni_naija]What point can be made to an indecisive dullard? That block you call a head needs to be examined... You need a vasectomy asap.. Stay away from children..

And whilst you're at it stay off drug you batty ditzy plonker!![/quote]You are a person!

The same fool that said TV would have no influence on her kids is the one saying someone needs his head examined?

Who needs a vasectomy before you raise another child the way your mother raised you?

Clueless, classless, uneducated neighbourhood slut.

[quote author=huni_naija]Hahahahaha see this m.o.r.o..n.i.c shameless old coon, probably in his 40's and still living with his s.t.r.i.p.p.e.r mama... I don't expect your epileptic dumb behind to have understood that statement.. How can you when that ice block you call a brain is so far up your a.r.s.e... its a waste of time explaining anything to a coon...

The only language people like you understand is abuse... You are lower than a pig and will continue to be treated as one sagashites!!

Your comprehension levels are below par, you are beneath my foot! Be gone you old wimp....[/quote]person, again, no point made except talking about what your mother did to feed your hoodrat life.

Moronic product of a failed education system. Instead of studying, she was chasing aristo like her mama.

[quote author=huni_naija]You bottom low binch a.s.s. kneegrow, prove where i said a parent is not the only influence on his/her child? Do you think this thought of reasoning isn't known.. There's even an african proverb which states it takes a village to raise a child...

You where probably taught in a mentally impaired institution... Now shut up that sheet hole, you call a mouth and go and play in traffic.. You senile old fool of a human being! [/quote]You are a person!

This is what you said, mooron!

[quote author=huni_naija]Your way of reasoning is illogical at best.. As long as you have instilled discipline into your child from a young age, whether or not they watch "western" styled TV programmes everyday or every hour, they will behave in the manner they know.. I have little cousins Who grew up on disney or "western" programmes and turned out fine, respect their parents and do as they're told etc

I have also witnessed children who don't even have a TV in their house but yet are still rude and disrespectful to there parents.. Where did they learn this mode of behaviour from? Parents are under an obligation to instil values into there child, if they can't do that, then nothing should come as a surprise when the child becomes unruly or ends up with ADD later on in life...[/quote]Moronic cretin, if they are watching western TV all day at any age, talkless of at such impressionable age, they will be influenced by what they see, and it will shape them.

Mugu, the TV is now part of the village raising the child. It is not only part of the village, it is one of the most influential members in the village.

Cretinous product of a failed education system.

[quote author=Dolly-Parton]I wanted to say that too, but i dnt know how she'll take it.
Most times silence is wiser than proofing ur right to express urself.[/quote]She is a classless, skank!

Unfortunately many Nigerian girls are like her. I have said it several times but some think I am just attacking Nigerian girls, when I am not.

Mondi_cheeks is another one. The person claimed to be South African but after seeing her talk a few times, it was obvious and I told her she was a liar, she is Nigerian. I know how a South African girl is. On average, their class is unfortuantely different when they interact. We are raising shyt in Nigeria. It is not an insult or provocative statement, it is real life fact!

[quote author=huni_naija]Can you read or comprehend at all? Your whole life is a joke if this is how you reason, where in my post did i say it was ok for the TV to raise a child? Please if you have nothing meaningful to say go and play in traffic, your foolishness is beyond distasteful ...

No wonder Nigeria is in the state that its in because of homoerotic faggits like you... Now piss off!! you ain't on my level at all, you indecisive r..e.t.a.r.d. [/quote]Yoiu are a person!

Your life and education is a joke when you talk as classlessly as you do and you think you are the only major influence on your child even if they are watching TV all day.

Cretinous product of a failed educations system! Is it not moronic fucktards like you running Nigeria? Our education system has collapsed!

[quote author=huni_naija]See people this demon is the poster for children that grew up without a father and a s.t.r.i.p.p.e.r for a mama, people please discipline your children and instil into them values that will never depart from them. This so called effeminate monkey who calls himself a man was probably raised on drugs, see the way he talks to females, he has no dignity or self-worth.

Stay of drugs people, remember c.r.a.c.k is whack! Now sagashites feck off and go back to the zoo where you belong... Slowspoke[/quote]Wow! Do you really need to describe your life?

No wonder you are a daft, classless hoodrat skank.

Single motherhood awaits you.

Dumbshyt, let the TV raise your kids and be deluding yourself that you are the only one with influence on them, dumbshyt!

[quote author=huni_naija]Hahahahaha, the poor vagabond can't even spell, yet this is the same demon that plans on having children, wonders shall never end! You're w.h.o.r.e of a mama failed you in this life, its a pity!! You better undergo that vasectomy before its too late, you psychotic banshee![/quote]person, stop talking about you mother like that.

Maybe if she slapped you a bit more, you would have more respect for her.

[quote author=huni_naija]I can call you what the feck i want, you should be used to it anyways as your whole life has been one full of abuse.. Don't see why you're complaining you plontoon...

Get that vasectomy asap![/quote]person, get a dictionary, an education and don't have kids.

[quote author=huni_naija]Your whole life is fecked!! You foolish coon...[/quote]Illiterate person, stop using a word if you don't know the meaning.

Except your moronic arsse is non-black, you cannot primarily call someone a coon. person!

Awon useless hoodrats!

[quote author=huni_naija]Who the feck is this deluded lunatic? You coon a.s.s slave.. I don't recall mentioning your cursed username in my post? Did i? Its a shame your parents didn't teach you any manners whatsoever, no wonder your absentee father rejected you. Teach your psychotic mind how to address people, never in your useless life quote me and dare use your accursed fingers to quote me!!!

Yet this is the same fool that's telling me how to raise a child? What an irony!! Lmao... People like you deserve to be ostracised away from normal thinking people, your likes deserve to be locked up in a strait jacket in the halls of a mental institution... Undergo a vasectomy of the mouth, brain and balls...

Fecking demented fool!! *tufia*[/quote]You are person!

What my parentd taught me is far better and superior to what your parents thought you, you classless skank!

My advise to you is not to raise your daughter to be like you. You will ruin her life!

Yet again, your dumb arsse has no point to make. Dumb shyt!

[quote author=huni_naija]You are a nonsensical wimp, without any iota of sense or reason, no wonder you spew up the rubbish you just wrote with your idiotic reasoning! Just because you had an absentee father and a hoe for a mother that let her gigolo raise you doesn't mean others reason the way you do.

Open your myopic mind for a minute and come out of the sheet hole your used to, there are still people who instil discipline into there children, and will certainly not allow a TV of all illogical things to raise there child... I wouldn't expect you to understand that as your I.Q seems to be lower than that of a horses..

Refrain from having children it will do the world some good to be free of more psychopaths and backward thinking ashi's you coon...[/quote]Fck Lawd!

These (huni_naija, mondi_cheeks, Sleek05, shaybe_baby, sinie, Shollypopz etc) are the average girls we are raising in Nigeria?

We are imperially fcked!

[quote author=huni_naija]You are a nonsensical wimp, without any iota of sense or reason, no wonder you spew up the rubbish you just wrote with your idiotic reasoning! Just because you had an absentee father and a hoe for a mother that let her gigolo raise you doesn't mean others reason the way you do.

Open your myopic mind for a minute and come out of the sheet hole your used to, there are still people who instil discipline into there children, and will certainly not allow a TV of all illogical things to raise there child... I wouldn't expect you to understand that as your I.Q seems to be lower than that of a horses..

Refrain from having children it will do the world some good to be free of more psychopaths and backward thinking ashi's you coon...[/quote]You are a person!

Is this the vulgar discipline your father and mother taught you?

Who is in a shyt hole then? Cretin!

Awon hoodrat skanks!

Fcking ediot wrote all this and did not even make one single point about what I said except the point that her parents raised rubbish!

person!

anulaxad: what most of the people who live in nigeria are facking over 60 everywhere you go you see old people my great grandma died two years ago aged 96 and she lived in a unsanctioned houses like all houses in nigeria please my grandmas are still alive and my mums oldest brother who is 74 is still alive and these are just average low income Nigerians. these bast ards who produce these are just bast ards.

You are a person!

No 1, your moronic arsse claims most people in Nigeria are over 60. So if we lined up Nigerians, 50.1% would be 60 years and above?

No 2, you are judging based on the population of those alive, not including those that have died.

No 3, you are judging based on your one or two exceptions, cretin.

No 4, your daft arsse has been across the whole of Nigeria, mixed with a diverse set of Nigerians of different income levels or has the resources to get data like NBS and World Bank?

Fcking cretinous product of a failed education system.

[quote author=Dolly-Parton]Easy Sagamite![/quote]It pisses me off when people that have the slightest clue about an issue can open their mouth to JUDGE I am illogical.

In her entire life, she would not have the logic proficiency I had when I was 6 years old.

fonzie2u: Years back when we were still kids, my pop got angry wit my eldest bro one day,and remarked that his 2nd son will make it before the eldest and d eldest will struggle in life.

This has come to paSs many years later.

And your point is?

[quote author=huni_naija]Your way of reasoning is illogical at best.. As long as you have instilled discipline into your child from a young age, whether or not they watch "western" styled TV programmes everyday or every hour, they will behave in the manner they know.. I have little cousins Who grew up on disney or "western" programmes and turned out fine, respect their parents and do as they're told etc

I have also witnessed children who don't even have a TV in their house but yet are still rude and disrespectful to there parents.. Where did they learn this mode of behaviour from? Parents are under an obligation to instil values into there child, if they can't do that, then nothing should come as a surprise when the child becomes unruly or ends up with ADD later on in life...[/quote]You are a foool!

Start learning that everyone, more so kids, is/are influenced by their environment. You are not the only one or thing raisinng your child. Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Snoop Dogg and peppa pig are raising them. The TV box is a co-parent in this day and age. They are programmed to take things in from their environment and process them in their brains based on differing personalities.

Don't ever in your dumb world think you are the sole or even the most influential element in shaping your kids views on life. There are many and it is a odds game. You will likely never be the only, or even the most respected, figure of authority and power in their lives who they will learn from.

The more you filter the environment to skew towards your desired taste, the better.

If you like, be daft and let them watch Disney, Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network all day, then grow into Glee, Gossip Girls, HollyOaks, Beverly Hills 90210, MTVBase etc, live in a white environment with white friends and then you wonder why they are the way they are.

toluene12: prov. 18:21, besides you dont need to be religious to know that what you say about yourself matters a lot

Don't ever bring such rubbish to me again as evidence.

toluene12: The unit of a society is the family, and the functional state of a society refects the state of the family in that community.

4 major factors determines the personality of a child: heredity, interaction with physical and social environment, type of education he/she receive and parental upbringing(the most important)
A child's personality will affect:
how he relates to other people,
how he deals with problems,
how he organizes his thoughts and carries out tasks, and
what interests and motivates him.
Thus personality determines the eventual outcome of an individual in adult life

You are one of those people that talk well and your write up looks eloquent but when it is analysed by those with intellect, it lacks logic and substance.

That is why I hate democracy because a foool might actually think someone like you is talking sense and people like you are allowed to contribute to decision-making.

Now let me educate you:

They have more successful adults not because of the way they raise kids but because they have more resources to raise the kids and do it in a more structured and sane society. In the same society, families with more what you funky people would call "bush" child-rearing, raise more successful adults with equal resources. Per head, the Asian, Chinese and even African parents raise more successful adults than their resource-level peers in the UK. They have superior behaved and successful kids.

The only obvious advantage funky parents have is they have more innovative kids. And academic research will tell you that "before you can get ONE good innovation, you will have many failed innovations". Hence for every innovative kid their style provides, there are several failed ones.

They have a better society because of the culture they have developed in their society. That is heavily dependent on leadership, structures and popular culture that has been instilled in their society AND, more importantly, it is a factor developed decades earlier while they used to have similar child-rearing approaches like the bush, unfunky Africans.

So don't attribute their successful adults and better society to their child raising approach. That is a recent phenomena that is looking more like it is likely to fail than be a success.

DaLover: What does the senseless statement mean? Did delta and rivers people impose these govs on themselves....or you now agree that PDP have been conducting free and fair elections...?

You are a person!

No 1, did anyone forces those people to run an rejoice on the streets when Alams reached his state after Alams running from the UK dressed like a woman? Or did anyone force Ogbara cretinous youths to attack policemen that wanted to arrest Ibori because they saw him as "our own"?

No 2, if someone is not getting even up to 10% of the vote would it be easy to rig the election?

[quote author=huni_naija]So because the Nigeria of now is different from the Nigeria of yesterday, we should then change our mode of discipline, no?? So when a child copies banana montana and thinks its alright to tell her dad, "i hate you dad, you're a monster" this said dad should just smile, and say " its alright dear, i know i'm a monster".. Because i have witnessed this countless of times with the western style mode of discipline...

We as africans need to stand our ground and raise our children the way we deem fit not because Nigeria is changing or becoming enlightened but because we value our deep rooted culture and want the best for our children. What is that even saying about us as parents to our children if we throw our culture and values aside because Nigeria is changing and accepting the western mode of principles?..

The way some people think sha... [/quote]If you want your mode of discipline to work then ensure you really work hard restricting the western rubbish they watch right from a young age.

The western productions teaches Western values and instil Western mentality.

You might just end up with a child that slaps you, thinks you are stewpid for not letting her and her boyfriend have sex in the house at 14, and she is a vegetarian because she thinks eating meat is animal abuse.