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moremi2008: Hahaha! You've got nothing to teach me because you're not particularly bright (that's just the honest truth). If I wanted to "gain knowledge", I would consult a book written by an actual pro, read the Nytimes or WSJ, or use Google.

This argument is just a blathering ego-fest especially because your sparring partner, Sagamumu, has at least double your wit and intelligence (and that's not saying very much). It's not even a fair debate anymore.

PS - My ad hominem sniping serves its purpose well: keeping me (and a lot of other people) well entertained. Thanks for noticing.

You are itching for some intellectual thumping, aint ya?

coogar: that idiagbon policy would constitute a child abuse here.
hell, it would even be adult abuse. i went to signapore and the place was as clean as heaven.
you're not even allowed to take food/drink to their underground trains. eat, drink and leave
your garbage outside the station.

The idiagbon policy raised me. It was not abuse, it was discipline.

Singapore policy would be perfect for retarded Nigerians, especially in Lagos.

coogar: so do you think a child should carry a cell phone?
and if the child's lingua franca lacks any substance to aid communication,
what would you advise?

Do I think a typical 10 year old needs a mobile phone? Hell No!

Do I think their might be very rare exceptions where a 10 year old might need a mobile phone? Yes.

Is "it is better to be safe than sorry", or "I want to know where they are", a rare exception? No.

patriot2: No actually he is probably a failure, this is what failures do, they convince them selves that failures are the true winners. In the head, the first will be the last and the last will be the first.

Moronic theories "Facts" from a typical product of a failed education system.

E no go better for IBB and Abasha!

coogar: singapore is a nanny state. i would expect them to have strict laws about sex there.
their "idiagbon" policy won't work in the western world where human rights act have
done more harm than good. middle east is essentially an islamic state. i would expect
them the teenage pregnancy rate in this country to be low as well. however, name a country
in western europe or north america with the same low teenage pregnancy as netherlands and
you would be struggling.

I am very happy with their idiagbon policy.

And I can guarantee you that it is the same idiagbon policies that the Indians and Chinese use for their kids in the UK/US and those kids excel. The teenage pregnancy kids are usually the kids raised with modern, funky policies and kids from single parenthood.

The Idiagbon policy mixed with a Sagamite flavour would be robustly reliable in raising a child. (Dead or Alive)

coogar: the law must cater for all and sundry no matter how remote.
if we prohibit mobile phones in general, what would be the solution
to the immigrant kid whose mother tongue isn't english..........

Cater for all and sundry? Chineke! I am not talking about laws here. I am talking about parenting and I can guarantee you no immigrant child who cannot speak English would be in my household.

Who said anything about public prohibition? I talk about Olopaa arresting anybody for giving their child phone so far?

coogar: actually, it's even better to expose them to such at 10.
netherlands do this to their kids and they have one of the lowest
teenage pregnancy in the western world. uk/usa who see teenage sex as a taboo
have one of the worst teenage pregnancy rate in the whole world.

as we speak, the uk are looking at modelling their sex education like the
dutch who let their kids watch soft porn in school as part of their education.
restriction often triggers curiosity - when you prohibit it, kids want to know
why it's prohibited and then learn the hard way.

food for thought!

I happen to have an ex-girlfriend that was Dutch.

If UK like, let them teach it like a Vatican education. They would still have high pregnancy rates because of their culture.

Culture is an intangible, holistic and complex thing that can not easily be replicated.

What my Dutch ex told me (and she did high school in both UK and Netherlands) is that in Netherlands they teach it as a science, in the UK, they teach it as a precaution (basically, use protection if you decide to do it).

And for the record, the Middle East and places like Singapore have a lower teenage pregnancy rate outside marriage than Netherland. And kids there are prohibited without formal sex education.

coogar: ok....substitute majority for minority.
your strict rule has to cater for the minority as well, don't u think?

I would struggle to integrate a child that can not speak a few words of Engligh in my argument without it feeling like I am boiling the ocean.

I would struggle to think of what proportion of 10 year olds in the UK, US and Nigeria that cannot say a few words of English to say they are going home.

It is insignificant and a waste of time in the grand scheme of things.

The confluence of a 10 year old immigrant kid that can not speak a word of English and ending up in a place where an accident happened, police blocked the road and he has no alternative road to reach home is too remote to even give a consideration or justify "10 year olds must then have personal mobiles".

coogar: with the proper upbringing, i doubt he/she would sext or porn.
but then porn does not necessarily make a child bad.

Part of upbringing is not exposing a 10 year old to such. Not saying it is insignificant and say they will not look at it or it does not make them bad if they look at it.

coogar: the thread asked if a child should own a cell phone.
you said no......and i bring up a scenario where the kid's first language
is not english. what provision should be made for kids in such category?

This is what you said:

coogar: conveniently ignoring far majority of these kids don't even speak english as their first language.
so a kid bought freshly from the dungeons of congo republic or the pits of afghanistan to stay in
the uk having the problems mentioned by mrbrownjay should do what? hire a translator?

the rule must cater for all n sundry fairly to work.

Brite02: my 2 young nephews one almost 10 the other 12. Have since, pressing and pressing hard the nokia torch light phone in the house, even going to the length of playing games on it,, they now know to save number, call numbers, receive calls, what can i say? It is now necessary these days for that age range to own a phone, a low end phone for that matter is a necessity, i tell u.

Then maybe, by 2020, will start thinking of giving our children internet-enabled phones.

What logic did you use to arrive that it is necessity?

coogar: how would a nokia 3310 be a tool to pornsites?
teenage pregnancy was rife before mobile phones became popular.
are you telling me kids didn't get pregnant in nigeria in the 80s
and 90s? how is the mobile phone the cause of the unruly behaviour
in teens?

So because there was some teenage pregnancy in Nigeria in the past I should ignore if my child is watching [i]p[/i]orn or sexting?

coogar: so the outright prohibition of mobile phones in children should
not put immigrant kids into consideration? can you hazard a guess
how many immigrant kids are in the uk particularly from bangladesh,
india and pakistan?

What you said was far majority of the kds don't speak English.

How did immigrant kids that cannot speak English become majority or represent majority in US/UK/Nigeria?

How did we get to using immigrant kids to be representative about kids in general or the kids of majority of people on this thread?

OAM4J: Industrialisation will unlock Nigeria’s wealth and corruption will sentence Nigeria economy to death.

Boko Haram and Northern violence will act as gate-man to unsure industrialisation does not enter.

coogar: what are the imminent dangers? these phones would be
monitored. the parents check the on-goings on the phone
so it's not like i would be in the dark.

the issue of sexting n other related stuff is insignificant.

The issue of sexting and p[i]o[/i]rn by my child and who my child is mixing with is very significant when my parenting style is considered!

coogar: those immigrants, asylum seekers who don't speak english?
how do you expect them to communicate? are you going to
allow those in those category alone to use the mobile phone
and restrict the others or what?

Since when did we start talking about immigrant kids?

How did immigrant kids that cannot speak English become majority or represent majority in US/UK/Nigeria?

coogar: i disagree. any device that adds to the safety of my child cannot be harmful.
his safety must take priority over his tendency to watch pornsites, etc.
like i have said, it's going to be a nokia 3310 or sagem. nothing spectacular.

How can the remote possibility of danger be priority over other more imminent dangers?

You can as well just hire two professional body guards that are 6ft 6 with muscles like a Rhino and make sure they don't go out without the guards.

coogar: conveniently ignoring far majority of these kids don't even speak english as their first language.
so a kid bought freshly from the dungeons of congo republic or the pits of afghanistan to stay in
the uk having the problems mentioned by mrbrownjay should do what? hire a translator?

the rule must cater for all n sundry fairly to work.

Majority of the Kids in UK, US or Nigeria don't speak English?

Really?

MRbrownJAY: kai, you would do all this when you could simply call their mobile, in the comfort of your own office/home?!

I would rather do that 50 times than to be in my office while my 10 year old daughter or son is watching porn on the mobile or passing messages with some 12 year old Hot boy and arranging to meet to "see what it is like".

MRbrownJAY: - accident happened, the street was blocked and they had to walk all around the block.
- they are stuck in the elevator.
- they were bitten by a stray dog and rush to hospital.
- they met a family member/friend and they were ask to help with some errands.
etc etc etc etc etc

- Take the parallel street or tell the police that is your only way home. They are sane people, they would let a 10 year old through to go home.
- That is a good one. Elevators now have alarm bells and the next person would know it is stuck.
- The doctors are trained to call parents when minors are brought in. I am sure medical schools are as good as that.
- When they are suppose to be at home? They better let the family member notify Daddy or ensure the errand is very brief.

MRbrownJAY: no matter how you want to look at it, the mobile phgon eis here to stay.....the cell phone is NOT bad for a child, in the contrary.
i can find many reasons why it is safer for a child to have a mobile phone, while you probably cant give me ONE good reason why they shouldnt have one (apart from the brainwave BS).

I never said it is not here to stay. But it, in my view, is more likely to do harm than prevent it.

- They access things you hope they do not access.
- They use it to turn to porn stars because of peer pressure. Even Tulisa could not escape that at 18.
- They use it to keep secret contact with opposite sex (some even older kids) and make me a grandfather by 40.
- It distracts them from their education because they are constantly on facebook or playing games.
- They use it to join peer pressure organised fights.
- They are consistently bullied through it 24 hours instead of it ending at school (if they are being bullied).
- And so on.

All these are FAR more likely than being stuck in elevator, being kidnapped or being bitten by a dog with rabies.

MRbrownJAY: and i fully respect your view on the subject, but sadly some parents would rather have this safe tool to make sure that they can contact they children whenever they feel is necessary, unless that child is with a TRUSTED adult at all times.

I would expect a 10 year old to be in controlled environments in the presence of trusted adults most times. The few times they are not, is OK. I am not wrapping my kids in cotton-wool.

stillwater: I won't buy a 10yr old a phone, unless circumstances, like sisikill pointed out, require it. The determinant for my teenage child to get a phone depends on how good he/she is with his/her grades , unless daddy says otherwise .

Daddy concurs!

Iranoladun:
@MrBronwJay and Zim Drill
With the risk of kids sex-ting (sending romantic text messages and sometimes nude pictures to each other) I will strongly advice against mobile phone until your child is a teenager by which time you would have done a lot of sex education and he/she is mature enough.

Thank you!

One of the numerous cons with a kid having a mobile and which realistically is more likely to occur than some physical safety threat.

Iranoladun:
Here is what we do: home land-line is progammed to automatically dial mummy after 5 seconds of lifting the handle and with a tab dial daddy after 10 seconds. The land-line cannot dial any other number except the emergency numbers & our numbers and cannot receive any other calls except in the evenings and mornings. These has help us to curtail abuse of phones by our kids and also to ensure that we can talk to them and confirm they are okay and home after school. They can also call us anytime at home and we can reach them too. School can be contacted in case of emergency. The kids have also memorized our numbers and home address in case of emergency

Good set-up.

coogar: your link shoes the trend continues to increase year in year out.
there are even more sophisticated means to carry out terrorism in school
these days and this is the more reason kids should have mobile phones.

i would expect my child to dial 999 the moment he hears shooting in the other classroom.
without a mobile phone, he's a sitting duck waiting to be slaughtered.

Unfortunately what you need for them is not a mobile. You will need to get them a bullet proof vest if you really worry that much about shooting.

If you REALLY want to be certain, then you will add giving them a personal gun to the vest, so they can gun the mudafucker back. Mobile would not be much help. The school's security, dinner ladies, teachers and co would have enough mobile phones to call 999 when they hear someone shooting at kids in a school.

MRbrownJAY: may i ask what you will do if they dont appear?!
here is a clue:
- music classes, 2/3 times a week
- private tutor, sometimes every damn school day
- sport twice a week

then multiply that by the 15/30mins that it takes them to go to and from there, and you will have the amount of time they spend "out there".

I would call/go to where they are suppose to be and look for them.

If they are not where they are suppose to be at 10 years old for an extended period of time to the point I have to worry, then they are in physical danger. Physical danger of either a criminal or my cane.

MRbrownJAY: what has discipline got to do with missing the bus or being late due to unforeseen reason?!

What unforeseen reason?

At 10 years old, you would do your stuff in the locality where you can walk home. If not, you would be picked up.

MRbrownJAY: it is not about what you want. you brought the issue of "back in the days" and i was just showing you that NOBODY died because they didnt have a mobile phone back then, but many sure cant live without one now.

it is not about what THE CHILD wants, it is about what the PARENTS feel is best for their child. lol!

I sure wouldn't want to raise a child that cannot live without a mobile phone, neither will I feel the mobile phone is best for the child. At 10, they would be at home most times. when out, they might be with a responsible adult or they are in the locality.

MRbrownJAY: nah, its simply a way to put everything on your side, to succeed. i'd rather look foolish and safe than cool but sorry.

you are talking of such tragedies, as if people "plan" them on their kids. come on bro!!!!

I would not be paranoid enough to worry that much about my kids.

And I feel there is more possibility of harm having a mobile at 10 than preventing harm.

Each has its pros and conc. I just feel not giving them the mobile at 10 gives the more positives.

coogar: and you would agree there are more depraved criminals around now
than the way it was in the 80s when you went to school. nobody
was bringing assault rifles in the 80s but these days, anything
can happen in the school. mobile phones just give an extra sense
of security to the parents.

No.

There have always been depraved animals in history. More so in the past.

Shootings have been occuring in US schools for years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#History_of_School_Shootings_in_the_United_States

A phone would hadly save them from bullets, it will, as you said, just add a 'sense'-of-security to a parent.

I am not really that paranoid about my child's safety, and I [would] love them as much as anybody else. I just don't buy into the whole cotton-wool parenting and fear consumerism.

coogar: yes! i am a businessman, i can't be around my child at all times.
while a child minder picks him up from school or takes him to school,
it's important i know how he's doing myself - from the horse's mouth!

mobile phones are here to stay. much so these days when you have
idiotic kids bringing guns to school to maim their mates.
i'd be raving mad to be kept in the dark when a cheap mobile phone
would at least assure me of my child's safety.

My father was not around me all the time, the same for everyone around my age.

We did not even have drivers to take us to school, except you are mistaking the danfo driver as some kind of personal driver.

You can't speak to them through the driver's phone?

MRbrownJAY: NOT during, but before and after, when that child is on its way there (you know on its own).

Why?

They are going to go maximum 3 times a week. They will spend 15/30 mins to get there, play for an hour and spend 15/30 minutes to get back home. Sometimes dropped off or picked up buy you or your wife?

Why do you urgently need to contact them?

MRbrownJAY: what if they dont? what if they are late? what if they met a friend and are wasting time out there?

I would expect a child to be disciplined enough to know when they are expected back home at the age of 10.

MRbrownJAY: i did too, and guess what, i never even needed to be contacted at all time of the day...but sadly i own a cell phone now. if WE adults have evolved, why would you want chidren NOT TO?!
unless you dont own a cellphone, your point make no sense.

I don't know since when what I want entitles a child to also want the same.

I want to bone Kim Kardasian senseless and would if she gave it up, does not mean a child is entitled to bone whoever he wants as well.

When he gets older, he can have what he wants.

MRbrownJAY: its called PEACE OF MIND. i want to know where my kid is at all time, and know that they are SAFE....and yes, if i was living in an area where there is shooting all around, then i would buy them a bullet proof vest. a mobile phone is just a device to be a able to contact your child, if that child spends a great deal of time out there by themselves......but hey, if you'd rather wait in suspense biting your nail, then fair enough!

if a mobile phone has ever saved ONE CHILD from being abducted/lost/injured then it can only be RIGHT. if you dont believe that, go ask the parents of children who were found/saved/rescued thanks to their mobile phone.

No, that is just paranoia.

Train them well, and you will have a clue where they are most of the time and know they will do their best to stay out of trouble. You don't need to know where they are all the time.

Secondly, from my experience, that statement of "i want to know where my kid is at all time" is just some funky mentality of thinking it shows "I love my kids like mad". It is the typical "I am the one that loves his/her kids the most". Come on. Most people love their kids as much as you do.

A 10 year old child should not be in a position to be abducted/lost/injured. And if that should happen, I doubt the mobile would save them.

coogar: a child should own a fone by age 5/6!
when he/she is at school, church or away from home, the fone can
be reached to see how he's doing. the fone should have no internet
access or any techie gimmick. nokia 3310 is the best option.
call/receive and send/recieve text messages!

You intend to send them to church or school on their own when they are 5/6?

MRbrownJAY: that surely isnt a wise reason to buy someone a phone..... and we surely can understand why the only use he has for it is to contact his buddies.

lol, abi they dont do field trips for your area?
i dont know about you but some kids have a lot to do after school. from tutors to music classes, to sport etc. so YES they may spend a lot of time on their own outside....unless you have someone that will follow EACH AND EVERY kids from school, all the way to their front door safely.

if that child spends even 1min away from home on their own, then you should have a way to contact them (in case of emergency).
you probably wont have to contact them BUT, IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, that phone will probably be the difference between life and death.

Why will I need to desperately contact my 10 year old during school trips, music classes or football?

Why can't I wait till they get home?

I grew up going to school on my own, so did my generation. There is no need for a mobile for life and death emergency. Virtually all are still alive today.

That life and death philosophy is just fear consumerism. Why not buy them a bullet proof vest just in case of stray bullet. Or you think a modile phone would stop the bullet or even a knife stab?

ZIM DRILL: the only emergency a child of that age can go through is when an adult who is charge of looking after that 10yr old collapses etc then thats when the child can take the phone from the collapsed adult and phone emergency numbers

but we shouldnt mixed it up from the question asked would buy a phone for a 10 yrs for emergency, my scenario above the child is not the one who needs the emergency attention but the adult so dont get confused

It is what psychologists have tagged "fear consumerism".

MRbrownJAY: if they are often away from home, and/or on their own, then i think it is safe to have a mobile for emergency and peace of mind (knowing that you can contact them whenever you need to)
as hard as it may be, these days a 10yr old having a mobile is "kinda" the norm. the catch is to give them a shiitty one, and not an Iphone4S or the latest Galaxy!

How can a child be often away from home.

Dem pikins dey go on business trips nowadays?

MRbrownJAY: ^^^football practice, field trips, music classes, after class studies, private tutor etc the list is long. yes, some may have a driver that take their kids to school and back home, but many live in a world where their kids are out there in the real world.

anyone who has a kid in the west would certainly understand that.

You will desparately need to call you child during the 1 hour 30 mins of going to play football?

Funnily enough, the only kids that can logically need a mobile based on your logic are probably the 6 year old street hawkers. Since they are the typ not to have anyone looking over them while they are away on business.

Rotmyt: I don't think it is a bad idea, it depends on the purpose it serves.My kid sister got her first phone @ age 10. My mum neither takes her to school nor brings her home. So, all my sister does with the mobile phone is to inform my mum that she's on the bus to school, has gotten to school, at the bus station and on the bus back home.

Why does she need that much information?

chardino: to my own mind i actually dn't see any thing wrong with a 8 or 10yr old kid to have a phone for emergency sake.
that if they stay away from their parents.......
is a free world them having a phone will cause to harm to them my dear...

You mean like in an orphanage?

ZIM DRILL: why not phone whoever will be in charge of thw football practice and those field trips etc and besides they should have your number as the parent or guardian not the child of that age

ZIM DRILL: what emergency can happen to him/her at that age of 10 that no one wont be around except him/her ?

its not about about him/her having a phone at that age but whoever will be looking after them must have your number to contact you

who would have left a 10yr old in charge of anything that if it goes bad s/he will call you

Thank you

toluxa1: It actually depends. For example, my younger brother is 15 and my mum bought him a Nokia X2. Up till tomorrow I made it clear to them that its a bad idea. Immediately he comes back from school, first place is to his phone, 2go, chatting. Sometimes I see him online at 12am. The truth is these things are a serious deterrent to the seriousness of our young ones. Many kids failing WAEC and NECO, fail because they are distracted by 2go, whatsapp, facebook, etc.

But if its a touch light for for example just for the purpose of communication, they its allowed.

PS: infact am going to seize that his phone, I don vex.

So fcking well said!

knotty: If the story had ended there, sad as it would have been, not much lessons would have been learnt.

LAGOON HOSPITAL

The other person that died was someone I knew passingly.
He was hit on the back and did not die on the spot. He held on to life, as though his life depended on it, of course, it did.

His friends around were able to spirit him to LAGOON HOSPITAL, a distance of 500meters away. Seeing his condition, the hospital hurriedly admitted and put him on oxygen. His friends at this point were relieved and in high spirit that JAGABAN was going to pull through, once again. They never knew LAGOON HOSPITAL takes care of the bare necessities and not a penny more, not a penny less.

The hope of survival dimmed when in no time LAGOON HOSPTITAL flashed a deposit bill of 1.3m on the friends, on a Sunday morning. The terse message was pay this deposit before further treatment can be administered. In a cashless Lagos, and on a Sunday how were they, in Jove,s name, going to raise that kind of money.
Well, they scurried hither thither and raised 800,000 which was paid to the Hospital. That money did not touch the right cord, it did not melt their hardened heart. All or nothing was their stance.

The friends were still running from pillar to post to raise the balance 500,000 when the man died at 6pm right in the hospital without receiving Panadol Extra.
When the family members requested that the deposited 800,000 should be returned since they did not provide any treatment, LAGOON HOSPITAL reminded them that on the receipt issued to them is a clause: ANY MONEY PAID TO THIS HOSPITAL IS NON-REFUNDABLE.

They must be mad.

They would give me back my money if they have any sense.

Beaf: God! Death, just like that?!
Left to me, 90% of the police force would be lined up and shot.

Lined up and shot with the Silverback Gorilla who you lick his arse that does not see them as a severe problem?

slumcat: wow. i neva tot u dat wud be able to spot d errors in ma comment....now i see a lil hope n maybe ur mental illness can be cured. say hi 2 ur psyphiatrist 4 me n pls always take ur pills.

person, you be militant?

People, see bullets o!

Cretinous illiterate.

slumcat: stopin mixin w.eed n c.ocaine...dont u see wat it is doin to ur pig brian?. i feel sorry for family.

You are a person!

I wonder if your family is still alive the way you gun people down with your grammar.

Cretinous product of a dilapidated education system.

Kay 17: LOL!!

You don't have to be a partisan to issues, one doesn't need to gay to defend same sex relationships, one doesn't need to be a woman to defend abortion rights, one doesn't need to be religious to defend rights to religion, thought and conscience.

Obama isnt gay for having favourable gay rights opinion, neither was Author Fugard black for being against racism and Apartheid.

As long as you can accept that people's consciences are sovereign, you would understand the concept of personal freedom.

The French and American Declarations recognized the equality and freedom of man, yet most believed that blacks and slaves were not inclusive in the wordings of the declarations. Today, we find that outrageous. Qualifying human rights based on moral bias will nullify thw whole rights. Other classes of ppl can freely be included till no right is left.

Same with gay rights, homosexuality is considered an abomination in most parts of Nigeria, however if human rights is NOT at the instance of society's approval.

You have also abandoned your grounds that morals form human rights and that personal freedom is NOT in the constitution! Because they were too ridiculous!!

YOU are gay, come off it!

You are a person for saying I said morals form human rights. Homosexuality is not a human right.

Kay 17: Its not a war.

Of course it is not war.

I am well aware you are gay just based on your argument pattern.

This is not the first time I am debating with you. Other gay ones like you are all4naija and Eko Ile.

No matter the logic put forward to you, you will never accept any logic that proves homosexuality is not acceptable. You just love to waste peole's time by scraping at any distractive arguments when any of your moronic and numerously lame points is highlighted.

You are time waster since you are not here to hear an argument or be corrected. You are just here to justify your homosexuality.

Kay 17: BUT it was you who claimed there were no personal freedom but morals and I clearly pointed out to you that its not the case and such claim was ridiculous!!!

Sagamite, you have NO points!!

You are a person!

taio luv: I confirm dat D militants salary per month is above 150k I know some dat r even sent to abroad n some dat r lodge in nice hotels in nigeria Ƒor seminar trainin on hw to b selfemployed , d millitants even included dia relatives in d list in order to enjoy dis benefits from d govt,I saw some in ondo state, D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ use ddis money on clubbing,as.hewo girls,drinking, and d policemen dare nt look dem in d face, and d militan guy said dat D̶̲̥̅̊ε̲̣̣̣̥γ̲̣̣̥ will b given 10million each to start a trade afta d training,
While we d good pple of nigeria who are unemployed graduate can nt find work in naija ,na real wa oooo
Mayb we too shld take to guns in order Ƒor us to be noticed.

[quote author=28octo ]u are on point![/quote]Beer parlour conversation leading to "intellectual" rumour-mongering that will result in irrefutable and "insightful facts".

Naija illiterate stylee!

[quote author=28octo ]clown!! Bash who? All u do is demonstrate absolute stupidity and arrogance. Screw ur generation[/quote]You are a person!

When you can show that militants are paid N300K per month, then you can claim not to be bashed and not to me a cretin!

When you come on NL with stewpidity expect me to clunk you daft head. I am your GOD! Alpha and Omega to you!

[quote author=28octo ]you are in a fools avenue. Such arrgnc on display frm a ranting fool.
D next time I get u on dis thread![/quote]You are a person!

You are pure dumb piece of shyt! And I enjoy bashing you for being so dumb!

Did you think you could come online with sophism and not get bashed?

[quote author=28octo ]sagamite is a fukced person cretin[/quote]person, take this as the best lesson in your life.

Your failed Nigerian school might be so useless that stewpid sophism is accepted as an argument. No surprise when these kinds of people are your teachers: https://www.nairaland.com/912090/lagos-state-legalize-voluntary-cremation/2#10751833

Bring such stewpidity to the internet and you will be made to look like the cretin you are.