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I love the different perspective which joskid has brought to this thread. I wish there are more people like you from the middle belt on nairaland (I am tired of verbal war between umu Igbo and omo Yoruba).

He may have even be a pawn or a tool.

True, he was.

double yellow cARD = red card ghana . . . reduced to 10men

an opening for ghana but dani alves clears away

1minute silence

kabukabu:
Smh, some thoughts are better left to dwell in the dungeons of the mind.Saddam/Qaddaffi, Nigeria, Really

You are obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.

just as your username implies - your thoughts have no direction; you just an animal amongst the herd. why the hell will someone come up with a CT instead of countering it, you just embark upon insults?

For your information, Saddam attempted to change Iraq's oil sales from the dollar to the euro prior to his exit, this was to affect the dollar thus a tool for change of  the price of oil at will especially among the OPEC. Qaddaffi was planning to implement a gold denominated currency which will be used for the trading of oil and other mineral deposits in Africa; this will as well keep the price of oil within the control of OPEC. The independence of small nations can never be entertained by the US, there must be a way to manipulate . . . invasion - physically, economically, electronically, etc.

prepare for invasion people . . . Saddam did it, he was ousted. Qaddafi did it, same thing happened.

How I wish this topic read, Atheist Gives $$$ to Al Qaeda or to Boko Haram

We have so many problems, my church is the real church, my church is better than yours.

Even the oyibo people we took the church from are not even attached to the church the way we do. dame!

Can't for once focus on the reason why the Atheist gave out his money.

Exponental:
hahahahaha, I think I feel your pains.

Dude, I feel the pains of our people. The ministers need to be visionaries and solution-minded people to occupy such positions.

Exponental:
It is nt called sack, it's called reshuffling. Lol

I see where you are going. However, when I say sack, I mean sack.

Exponental:
Nice steps though, Let hope we get a positive result from it.

I pray so!



[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=752102.msg9081646#msg9081646 date=1315215124]Oh heaven! what manner of a president is this?

If Nigeria was to be viewed as a business entity, where on earth will you find a CEO/CBD asking the directors to come up with a blue print on how to turn the business entity around? Rather the CEO charts the path, with bold action plans and gets his directors to formulate 'workings' on how to navigate that path!

Jonathan continues to amaze me albeit with disgust! I thought Obasanjo in his second coming was bad, but GEJ is worse! No action plan, pervading indecisiveness and seemingly obvious lack of idea on how to fix up nigeria!

I am begining to suspect that the real reason GEJ never had shoes was not because his parent could not afford one,  maybe He just couldn't figure out how to wear them![/quote]I am beginning to wander how your view is viewed.

lagerwhenindoubt:
@posters beware GEJ Sycophants are at work on NL A 4yr plan does not mean it is keyed to work as it should. remember vision 2000, vision 2010 and now vision 202020. I hope GEJ will make these plans public. because our Culture is to keep public information secret, we only know it when it has failed woefully. Let us review these plans for feasibility sake

You do not need to tutor us about that; however, do not so much time in feasibility studies.

I hope they will be sacked just like Bankers when they do not meet their targets.

It's not just Blacks, Nigerians, Africans; it extends to Europeans na d Asians as well.

[size=18pt]Foreigners complain of harassment by Libya rebels[/size]
By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI - Associated Press,KARIN LAUB - Associated Press | AP – 9 hrs ago
   


TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) — A Ghanaian teacher cowers in his house, certain he will be grabbed at a checkpoint because of his dark skin. Armed rebels detain 19 Ukrainian cooks and oil workers for several days on unsupported claims that they are really snipers for Moammar Gadhafi.
They're among thousands of foreigners caught in a web of suspicion as rebel fighters pursue the remnants of Gadhafi's forces. Gadhafi hired some foreigners as mercenaries, but many others held ordinary jobs in Libya, and the rebels who ousted the Gadhafi regime from most of Tripoli last month often seem to make little effort to tell them apart.
"How can we be snipers?" cook Maksim Shadrov asked angrily at a training center for oil workers in Tripoli where he, his wife and 17 other Ukrainians were being held.
"They are old. She is a woman. We are not snipers," he said, pointing to some members of his group. Even a rebel commander conceded that he had no evidence to the contrary, but held them nonetheless, despite a diplomat's efforts to free them.
In rebel-run Tripoli, people with dark skin — even Libyans — are at risk because Gadhafi is known to have recruited soldiers from sub-Saharan Africa.
"Every black is a target," said Tony Biney, the Ghanaian teacher, who stayed home with his wife for two weeks before risking a trip to church.
There have been widespread arrests and frequent abuse of migrant workers since the rebels seized Tripoli late last month, Human Rights Watch said Sunday, but did not give an estimate of the number of detainees. The group said the clampdown created "a grave sense of fear among the city's African population."
A rebel official estimated that some 5,000 people have been detained since rebels seized Tripoli. At one makeshift detention camp, conditions for Libyan detainees were acceptable, but sub-Saharan Africans were held in overcrowded cells with a putrid stench, Human Rights Watch said. The detainees complained of a lack of water and poor sanitation.
The detentions have created an image problem for the rebel leadership, which relies heavily on Western support and has pledged to build a new Libya based on the rule of law, in contrast to Gadhafi's brutal regime.
The harsh treatment could also cause problems for the rebels as they attempt to rebuild Libya's economy, which has depended heavily on foreign workers to keep up with its oil boom. However, the draw of steady, well-paid employment may in the end be stronger than the fear of mistreatment.
Before the six-month civil war that brought down Gadhafi, hundreds of thousands of foreigners filled jobs Libyans didn't want or weren't trained for, including in construction, oil and health services. Data is sketchy, but some estimates say at least 1.5 million foreigners worked in Libya, a country of just 6 million.
The workers are mainly Africans, Asians and Eastern Europeans, lured from economically depressed countries by Libya's relatively high wages.
Hundreds of thousands of them fled Libya after the outbreak of fighting in February, many complaining at the time that they had not been paid or were robbed by Gadhafi troops on the way to the border. Others were either unable or unwilling to leave.
On Sunday, Human Rights Watch called on the rebels to stop arbitrary arrests and to set up a system to review cases of people alleged to be mercenaries. The New York-based group said it has evidence that the Gadhafi regime recruited hundreds of mercenaries from Chad, Sudan and other countries — but noted that cannot serve as the basis for mass arrests.
The rebel leadership "has legitimate concerns about unlawful mercenaries and violent activity, but it can't simply arrest dark-skinned men just in case they think they might be mercenaries," said Sarah Leah Whitson of Human Rights Watch.
The rebels' National Transitional Council has called on fighters not to abuse prisoners and says those accused of crimes will receive fair trials.
In one sign of possible change, an official for the U.N.'s main refugee agency, Sam Cheung, said several dozen Somalis were released to his group Sunday.
"We are hoping this is a model, a first transaction," Cheung said.
The Philippines sent a senior diplomat to give some 1,700 Filipino workers, mostly nurses, the option of leaving. A government official said four Filipino housemaids who worked for a Gadhafi relative will take the offer.
Some workers said they hadn't been harassed by either side in the war. Others, including some of the Ukrainian detainees, planned to stay in Libya despite receiving rough treatment.
"As you know, life in the Ukraine is bad," said Shadrov, the cook. "We came here to earn money for our family."
The Ukrainians, hired by the Russian-Libyan oil company Dakara, arrived in Tripoli in July. After the rebels entered the capital on Aug. 21, the Ukrainians were detained by rebel fighters, handcuffed and moved to various locations, Shadrov said.
"They took everything from us," he said. "Money, passports, computers, everything."
Othman bin Othman, the rebel commander in charge of the oil workers' training center, initially said the Ukrainians were armed and trained as snipers, but changed his account after reporters interviewed the detainees.
"To be very honest, we didn't find any weapons in their houses or on them, but they arrived into the country illegally and during a very sensitive time — after the war," he said. "This led us to believe they were working for the enemy."
Diplomats from Russia and Ukraine visited the group, and Shadrov's father, a Russian citizen, was able to leave.
At a meeting with the rebels, the Ukrainian consul was asked to bring back a written promise that if the Ukrainians are allowed to leave the detention center, they will stay in their homes and not leave the country without proper documentation.
Some of Gadhafi's real mercenaries, meanwhile, have already left.
Mohamed, a migrant worker from Mali, said he came to Libya in 2007 and found work in restaurants and as a gardener.
Speaking in the Mali town of Bamako, he said he briefly joined a pro-Gadhafi militia after the outbreak of the uprising, and was sent to try to crush rebels in the port city of Misrata, a stronghold of the revolt. He said he stopped fighting after a couple of weeks and returned to Mali.
Mohamed did not give his last name because he said did not want anyone to know he fought for Gadhafi. He said he still has family in Libya and has not been able to get in touch with them for more than two weeks.
Biney, the Ghanaian teacher, and his wife, a housekeeper, said they will stay in Libya. They need the money.
They're continuing to keep a low profile, but left their home Friday to make a quick dash to St. Francis Catholic Church in downtown Tripoli. They hired a driver for $90, a steep sum, they said, since they haven't worked or been paid for six months.
They did it, Vida Biney said, to say a prayer of thanks for surviving the war.
"We are alive. We are grateful to God," she said.

Foreigners complain of harassment by Libya rebels
By HADEEL AL-SHALCHI - Associated Press,KARIN LAUB - Associated Press | AP – 9 hrs ago



TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) — A Ghanaian teacher cowers in his house, certain he will be grabbed at a checkpoint because of his dark skin. Armed rebels detain 19 Ukrainian cooks and oil workers for several days on unsupported claims that they are really snipers for Moammar Gadhafi.
They're among thousands of foreigners caught in a web of suspicion as rebel fighters pursue the remnants of Gadhafi's forces. Gadhafi hired some foreigners as mercenaries, but many others held ordinary jobs in Libya, and the rebels who ousted the Gadhafi regime from most of Tripoli last month often seem to make little effort to tell them apart.
"How can we be snipers?" cook Maksim Shadrov asked angrily at a training center for oil workers in Tripoli where he, his wife and 17 other Ukrainians were being held.
"They are old. She is a woman. We are not snipers," he said, pointing to some members of his group. Even a rebel commander conceded that he had no evidence to the contrary, but held them nonetheless, despite a diplomat's efforts to free them.
In rebel-run Tripoli, people with dark skin — even Libyans — are at risk because Gadhafi is known to have recruited soldiers from sub-Saharan Africa.
"Every black is a target," said Tony Biney, the Ghanaian teacher, who stayed home with his wife for two weeks before risking a trip to church.
There have been widespread arrests and frequent abuse of migrant workers since the rebels seized Tripoli late last month, Human Rights Watch said Sunday, but did not give an estimate of the number of detainees. The group said the clampdown created "a grave sense of fear among the city's African population."
A rebel official estimated that some 5,000 people have been detained since rebels seized Tripoli. At one makeshift detention camp, conditions for Libyan detainees were acceptable, but sub-Saharan Africans were held in overcrowded cells with a putrid stench, Human Rights Watch said. The detainees complained of a lack of water and poor sanitation.
The detentions have created an image problem for the rebel leadership, which relies heavily on Western support and has pledged to build a new Libya based on the rule of law, in contrast to Gadhafi's brutal regime.
The harsh treatment could also cause problems for the rebels as they attempt to rebuild Libya's economy, which has depended heavily on foreign workers to keep up with its oil boom. However, the draw of steady, well-paid employment may in the end be stronger than the fear of mistreatment.
Before the six-month civil war that brought down Gadhafi, hundreds of thousands of foreigners filled jobs Libyans didn't want or weren't trained for, including in construction, oil and health services. Data is sketchy, but some estimates say at least 1.5 million foreigners worked in Libya, a country of just 6 million.
The workers are mainly Africans, Asians and Eastern Europeans, lured from economically depressed countries by Libya's relatively high wages.
Hundreds of thousands of them fled Libya after the outbreak of fighting in February, many complaining at the time that they had not been paid or were robbed by Gadhafi troops on the way to the border. Others were either unable or unwilling to leave.
On Sunday, Human Rights Watch called on the rebels to stop arbitrary arrests and to set up a system to review cases of people alleged to be mercenaries. The New York-based group said it has evidence that the Gadhafi regime recruited hundreds of mercenaries from Chad, Sudan and other countries — but noted that cannot serve as the basis for mass arrests.
The rebel leadership "has legitimate concerns about unlawful mercenaries and violent activity, but it can't simply arrest dark-skinned men just in case they think they might be mercenaries," said Sarah Leah Whitson of Human Rights Watch.
The rebels' National Transitional Council has called on fighters not to abuse prisoners and says those accused of crimes will receive fair trials.
In one sign of possible change, an official for the U.N.'s main refugee agency, Sam Cheung, said several dozen Somalis were released to his group Sunday.
"We are hoping this is a model, a first transaction," Cheung said.
The Philippines sent a senior diplomat to give some 1,700 Filipino workers, mostly nurses, the option of leaving. A government official said four Filipino housemaids who worked for a Gadhafi relative will take the offer.
Some workers said they hadn't been harassed by either side in the war. Others, including some of the Ukrainian detainees, planned to stay in Libya despite receiving rough treatment.
"As you know, life in the Ukraine is bad," said Shadrov, the cook. "We came here to earn money for our family."
The Ukrainians, hired by the Russian-Libyan oil company Dakara, arrived in Tripoli in July. After the rebels entered the capital on Aug. 21, the Ukrainians were detained by rebel fighters, handcuffed and moved to various locations, Shadrov said.
"They took everything from us," he said. "Money, passports, computers, everything."
Othman bin Othman, the rebel commander in charge of the oil workers' training center, initially said the Ukrainians were armed and trained as snipers, but changed his account after reporters interviewed the detainees.
"To be very honest, we didn't find any weapons in their houses or on them, but they arrived into the country illegally and during a very sensitive time — after the war," he said. "This led us to believe they were working for the enemy."
Diplomats from Russia and Ukraine visited the group, and Shadrov's father, a Russian citizen, was able to leave.
At a meeting with the rebels, the Ukrainian consul was asked to bring back a written promise that if the Ukrainians are allowed to leave the detention center, they will stay in their homes and not leave the country without proper documentation.
Some of Gadhafi's real mercenaries, meanwhile, have already left.
Mohamed, a migrant worker from Mali, said he came to Libya in 2007 and found work in restaurants and as a gardener.
Speaking in the Mali town of Bamako, he said he briefly joined a pro-Gadhafi militia after the outbreak of the uprising, and was sent to try to crush rebels in the port city of Misrata, a stronghold of the revolt. He said he stopped fighting after a couple of weeks and returned to Mali.
Mohamed did not give his last name because he said did not want anyone to know he fought for Gadhafi. He said he still has family in Libya and has not been able to get in touch with them for more than two weeks.
Biney, the Ghanaian teacher, and his wife, a housekeeper, said they will stay in Libya. They need the money.
They're continuing to keep a low profile, but left their home Friday to make a quick dash to St. Francis Catholic Church in downtown Tripoli. They hired a driver for $90, a steep sum, they said, since they haven't worked or been paid for six months.
They did it, Vida Biney said, to say a prayer of thanks for surviving the war.
"We are alive. We are grateful to God," she said.

Has anyone seen the movie 'The Tailor of Panama' or read the book 'Our Man in Havana'.

Somehow I feel all these cables are hoarse stories made up out of imaginations by CIA agents and other agents from foreign agencies to keep their job and sustain the inflow of money for them to keep living their big life style outside the shores of their native country.

Humans can be very manipulative, let's not be naive.

Beaf:
Everybody in the World is making one mistake or the other with the rebels. They are just a chaotic bunch of Libyan citizens with weapons, so you never really know what they might do.
The right thing for responsible countries to do is try to bring the war to a quick end and the most potent way of doing that is to recognise the rebels and make Gaddafi's side see the futility in a prolonged civil war that would cost more black lives anyway. 34 countries in Africa have already done so, they can't all be wrong.

Now that the initial mistake has been made, we should expect robust action to save the lives of Nigerians and all other blacks.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=752039.msg9080305#msg9080305 date=1315195995]^^sometimes i wonder if you're gej himself, or patience.[/quote]This is the voice of Jacob but the hands of Esau.



If all of AU recognizes the TNC, then what will happen? Will the rebels not continue with their ill-minded deeds. One thing we should know is that there must be total pull out these men and women from Libya until this civil war is over.

okay . . . to solve this problem, the people of SE and SS being the major contributors, captain and coach will keep the cup. If you doubt me, then you are definitely Yoruba or Hausa . . . lol!

Who is the future-current captain of the team?
Who is the future-current coach of the team?
Who is the majority contributor of the team?

Guys no mind me, I am just as crazy as the OP.

Why is there no SE state involved in this? Abi, them get odeshi for bombs?

Aka ka m ji akpa aku.

The minister needs to be queried. Has he gone to Libya to verify for himself. Does he have any intelligence on ground in Libya to prove that Nigerians and indeed other Black African are not being (have not been) lynched.

I thought the era of the former Attorney General of FGN is gone. This is a time for intelligence not hoarse statements.

Have you seen this movie? Apart from the sex and the entire love thingy. I find the cab driver in New York very fascinating. Guess which people have such accents - Yoruba! Yoruba una well done o!

nsogbu di kwa! Armageddon of Nigeria is here.

Seriously, I am not interested in seeing this happen o!

@OP

NGN30000 monthly. It can be difficult, but you can never say never. If the girl in question is okay with it, then you guys can work out the methods to which you can live with the money. The truth is that money is never enough, whether as a single person or a married couple. You just have to plan yourself. If you personal expenses does not exceed NGN10000 per month, then I think you can do it. You can get married to your girl, but you have to postpone child birth till she gets a jobl. However, you have to be looking up for better future as well.

oga GEJ, I hope you do not turn to Gahdaffi. Employing female bodyguards as well. lol!

same push everyday!

I think the Nigerian banking system should allow a situation where by a big bank could acquire another bank without changing its name, 'management' and human capital . . . really explain this because its being a long while since I left the banking sector in Nigeria.

In the UK, LloydsTSB group owns both LloydsTSB and Halifax . . . two different banks; the Royal Bank Scotland group owns several other financial groups such as RBS, NATWEST, Direct Line,  etc. I was informed that the BankPHB and Spring Bank were in this kind of unification with BankPHB as the bigger partner prior to their Nationalization by the CBN.

In acquiring of banks, there should be opportunities for part acquisition. This is in a situation where some banks might decide to go regional, thus putting some of its branches for sale as a result of change in business - example, WEMA bank wishes to go regional, serve regions such as SS and SW, then FBN could acquire their assets at NW, NC, SE and NE.

Also, on the employees' protection there should be a time frame for which bank acquisition should be completed - 3 to 5 years should be okay.

THERE IS NO PERMANENT SOLUTION TO NAGGING. O shit this is in caps sorry!

Beating your lady will bring more flames. Kissing her and ignoring her seems to work mostimes; don't just too much of either.

I like the chic that took the bronze . . . Kelly. Beautiful and athletic I will say.

Those guy look Edo! Those tribal marks are mainly seen in Edo. The Yoruba tribal marks are the big Adidas type.