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try69: What is scripture?

Very important question, let's see wikipedia definition of scripture.




Religious texts, also known as scripture, scriptures, holy writ, or holy books, are the texts which various religious traditions consider to be sacred, or of central importance to their religious tradition. Many religions and spiritual movements believe that their sacred texts are divinely or supernaturally revealed or inspired.

Taking a look at the above definition, you discover that the problem we have on this thread is that of assuming the word bible and scripture can be used interchangeably;which is not right.

Worthy of note is that bible is not the only scripture in existence, if we think that apostle Paul by saying all scripture is inspired, was referring to the bible as we have it today, then we have more challenges than we bargained for.

vickyO: If it doesn't have a foundation in the scripture it should be declared null and void. cause Paul said if anyone should teach anything apart from the ones that Christ and the apostles have taught, they shouldn't adhere to. test the doctrines bro... is it too difficult for you to understand...... that orally passed doctrine should also be tested, how valid is it when tested with the scriptures?

The issue becomes, how do we draw the borderline between what is considered scripture and what is not.

I thank you Lord for you are gracious to me.

Ubenedictus: if u meet an informed protestant these questions will pop up, only it wont be charitable.

Am really interested in knowing how this question will be answered.

Ubenedictus: Please come again, e b like say i no hear you well...

Me think you heard me, 12 is not much.

Ubenedictus: But pope honorius taught heresy, how do u reconcile that?

Syncan please come and finish what you started.

But oga Uben: if you are a lecturer, your students will surely work hard to pass,

POPE II: I want a football team(11children) hope she won't refuse

Hmm this your wish,

POPE II: hope my future wife will b like you .

Huh? What say ya?

*following*

woky: gaskiya is much o..
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Syncan: The pope can only throw new light into the meaning or understanding of, or affirm in stronger words, what the church has recieved via sacred tradition ( oral and written). The magisterium is there to aid him. Christs mandate to the church to preach to all nations, his specific order to Peter to feed the sheep, his promise to be with the church till the end of time, and that the gates of hell shall not prevail, all depicts infallibility. The fact that the apostles in acts 15 chose to say " it has pleased us and the holy spirit" means they understand it so. Also scripture calls the church " pillar and foundation of truth" When the pillar of truth declares, there is no room for error. God has made it so, He is omnipotent, He can do it. The various anthemas in the early church and condemnation of heresies showed that the early fathers understood it so.

Seconded.

Ubenedictus: Una no go kill me with laugh oh! @mamma sal c, are u serious? 12? Abeg no make me fear. Afraid don dey catch me small small, make una no take me run abeg oh.

Abeg no fear 12 is not much.

woky: she is my daughter.. Lol

Huh?

woky: 12 children
*coughs*

*hand him a glass of water*

POPE II: than you for your sincerity . your comment strengthen my faith , I would not be able to bear the fact a portion of my brethren feel , and like you pointed it out , one does not need to be a priest to serve God, not all men are priests in fact few are priests , others are serving our lord in many different ways.
God Bless you
and your 12 children

oh yeah! Oh yeah! My twelve children.

Syncan: Your personal opinion...how come it has got me smiling and clapping for you?

OH somebody is making my head swell. *holds head with both hands*

woky: hmmm mother of 12.. U born Disciples b dat

Yes yes the twelve apostles.

Syncan: Ah, patiently waiting for sal c to respond wether e de pain am say she fit be only mama father.

if i become mama father,then my dream has been actualized and that‘s a thing of joy.

[quote author=Mr. Aladin]he said he was weak so him say make him stroll round. He Didn't wear anything wey go make ppl know say he is a priest. So he decided to check on one of his parishioner so as him dey discuss with the woman daughter, then all this door to door preachers from mushroom churches come enter d house to preach( u know na december, so dem dey find money) d preacher think say na woman father go find for there so he said to father; yayayayayayayayayayayayayay youngman have u given ur Life to Christ.....
Father say as him wan answer the preacher question another pastor frm a different church steeped in.
He said he asked the both of them a puzzling question that made dem to started quarreling.
Him say na wen him don go out from the house na im dem tell d two pastors say him be catholic priest.

Truelly as i dey tell u so one of dem don convert to catholic.[/quote]Thank God for the conversion.
But the fada funny oo

POPE II: jeez I don't believe you ...

anyway since you are a woman I wanted to ask you if you feel marginalized in the church because you can't priest? I mean I don't know why it crossed my head , maybe because of the heretics polluting my head with their doctrines and rants but I thought it was fair to ask to any Catholic woman ?

please don't get angry oo and be honest

Ok let me make it clear that whatever I say here is squarely my personal opinion.

I don't feel marginalized at all, infact I'm totally not in support of women ordination.

When Jesus Christ chose his apostle, there are women out there yet he chose twelve men and not even a woman was among them.

There are religious women serving God in the church today, we must not become priest before we serve God, it is better we leave things the way God want them to be and not try to turn them upside down for our selfish reasons.

The day the church tries to approve women ordination will be my most unhappy day in the mother church and I can't even attend any mass officiated by a female priest.

My personal opinion.

woky: LoL

why are you laughing

POPE II: me too oooo ,oyaaa come ooo people are waiting

Me too

POPE II: are you a woman ?

Ah yes sire, a mother of twelve

It seems you are stingy, greedy, inconsiderate, wicked...and a thief. That's a hard one for a lady @italo

Mehn see comedy!

Who is coming up with the next question?

Syncan: Welcome to you unongu, a nice collection you've got up there...yeah very nice indeed. Hello guys, glory to Jesus.

Honour to Mary.

woky: Good mornin brethren..
Hw una nyt??

Good morning bro. My night was good.

woky: lolz.. Dnt mind Richieboyn

Ok sire!

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woky: wetin i cause

You made me look like the secretary.

unongu: CERTAIN FACTS ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH:
1. The Catholic Church gave us the Gregorian calendar which we all use today.
2. The Catholic Church gave us the date for Easter.
3. The Catholic Church gave us the date for Christmas which means Christ-Mass.

The remains of all of the Apostles are in Catholic Churches, and so are all of the Gospel writers. Note! Some relics are divided between Catholic Churches:
St. Peter is in St. Peter's Basilica in Rome.
St. Paul is in St. Paul's Church in Rome.
St. Matthew is in the Cathedral of St. Matthew in Messina, Sicily.
St. James the Greater is in St. James Church in Compostela Spain.
St. James the Less (the Just) is in the Basilica of the Holy Apostles in Rome.
St. Bartholomew is in St. Bartholomew-in-the-island Church in Rome.
St. Andrew is in the Cathedral of Amalfi in Italy.
St. Philip is in the Church of the Dodici Apostoli in Rome, Basilica of the Holy Apostles.
St. Simon is in the Vatican, under the Altar of the Crucifixion.
St. Jude is in St. Peter's Basilica in Rome.
St. Thomas is in the Cathedral of Saint Thomas in Mylapore, India.
St. Matthias is in St. Matthews Abbey in Trier Germany, and in St. Mary Major Basilica in Rome.
St. John is in the ruins of the Basilica of St. John in Ephesus Turkey.

"You are built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets with Jesus Christ Himself as the Chief Corner Stone." Ephesians 2:20.
Even though he was not an Apostle, he did write the Gospel of Mark. St. Mark is in St. Mark's Church in Venice, Italy.
Even though he was not an Apostle, he did write the Gospel of Luke. St. Luke is in the Basilica of Santa Giustina in Padua, Italy.
The first Christian Martyr. Acts 7:60 St. Stephen is in Rome in the Basilica of St. Lawrence Outside the Walls.
The first person to arrive at the tomb of the Risen Christ. John 20:1 St. Mary Magdalene is in the Basilica of St. Maximin in Villalata, France.
He produced the first Bible containing both the Old and New Testaments, the Latin Vulgate. St. Jerome is in St. Mary Major Basilica in Rome.

We know from the many authentic Relics that the Catholic Church has a lot in its possession. Among them are:
1. The Relic of the True Cross on which Jesus Christ was crucified. John 19:17-18
2. The "INRI" inscription from the True Cross, called "Titulus Crucis". John 19-19
3. The Nails which held Jesus to the cross. John 20:25
4. The Lance Point of Saint Longinus which pierced the side of Jesus. John 19:34
5. The Crown of Thorns and the individual thorns from it. John 19:2
6. The Table used at the Last Supper is in St. John Lateran Basilica in Rome. Matthew 26:20
7. The Scala Santa, the steps which Jesus Christ ascended on His way to meet Pontius Pilate.
8. The Chains of Saint Peter, in the Church of St. Peter in Chains in Rome. And Many more...

We know from its sheer Size and Rapid Growth, with over 1,057,000,000* (one billion, fifty-seven million) members, or one in six of the entire population of the earth, as of February 2000. That is an increase of over 40,000,000 (forty million), since December 1997, more than half of the total membership of the largest single non-Catholic denomination. In 2001, the Catholic Church grew to over 1,070,540,000* members, plus another 216,000,000* Orthodox. Bar none, the Catholic Church is the fastest growing Christian Church in the world. All of the over 36,400 various Non-Catholic denominations, collectively added, total less than the Catholic membership. For those detractors of the Catholic Church who say that numbers are irrelevant, they are in effect, saying that Satan is winning souls and that GOD is losing souls. They are saying that more people are convinced by the lie from the father of lies, John 8:44, than they are convinced of the truth of GOD, John 14:6. They have forgotten, or maybe they never knew, that Satan can only do what GOD allows him to do. ---Victor Ajluni

Waow learnt a lot here. Thanks brother.