Ubenedictus: But pope honorius taught heresy, how do u reconcile that?

Syncan please come and finish what you started.

But oga Uben: if you are a lecturer, your students will surely work hard to pass,

Sal C: Syncan please come and finish what you started.

But oga Uben: if you are a lecturer, your students will surely work hard to pass,

if u meet an informed protestant these questions will pop up, only it wont be charitable.

Ubenedictus: Please come again, e b like say i no hear you well...

Me think you heard me, 12 is not much.

Ubenedictus: if u meet an informed protestant these questions will pop up, only it wont be charitable.

Am really interested in knowing how this question will be answered.

Me too

Need your prayers brethren... My dad is sick and I dont even know what is really wrong with him.

Rich4god: Need your prayers brethren... My dad is sick and I dont even know what is really wrong with him.

May God who heal both known and unknown sicknesses heal him completely.
I will keep praying for him. Be strong.

Ubenedictus: But pope honorius taught heresy, how do u reconcile that?

Pope honorius did not "teach" heresy. He merely failed to condemn one, hence did not stop, even encouraged, its spreading by his silence. Moreso, he never claimed his stand on the matter was binding on all catholics, which is a pre-requsite for infallibility as I earlier stated.
He neither made his opinion binding on all, nor condemned the other opinion. Infallibility claim cannot be invoked here.

This is to the best of my knowledge.

Rich4god: Need your prayers brethren... My dad is sick and I dont even know what is really wrong with him.

May the health of the sick intercede for him at this time. Be calm and know that HE is God.

Sal C: Syncan please come and finish what you started.

But oga Uben: if you are a lecturer, your students will surely work hard to pass,

Sorry Sal C, I could not come back till now. However, I no start anything ma'am, all those involved in the matter get "us" as suffix for their names, honorius, sergius, theodorus...if you check our names, you go see who im own end for "us", na that person you go hold o.

no be for my mouth you wan hear am.

Rich4god: Need your prayers brethren... My dad is sick and I dont even know what is really wrong with him.

there is no sickness that God cant cure.

Your dad wil be healed in Jesus name, Amen

Abeg make una help me confirm e b like say sal c say 12 no too much. Abeg i read am well?

Sal C: Me think you heard me, 12 is not much.

Syncan:

Sorry Sal C, I could not come back till now. However, I no start anything ma'am, all those involved in the matter get "us" as suffix for their names, honorius, sergius, theodorus...if you check our names, you go see who im own end for "us", na that person you go hold o.

no be for my mouth you wan hear am.

OK seems i know him.

Syncan:

Pope honorius did not "teach" heresy. He merely failed to condemn one, hence did not stop, even encouraged, its spreading by his silence. Moreso, he never claimed his stand on the matter was binding on all catholics, which is a pre-requsite for infallibility as I earlier stated.
He neither made his opinion binding on all, nor condemned the other opinion. Infallibility claim cannot be invoked here.

This is to the best of my knowledge.

good job, weldn, 1st it is hard to prove pope honorius taught heresy. 2nd a pope posses infallibility only when he teach in his office as universal teacher, and when he publicly pronunces a binding doctrine for the entire church. Honorius wasn't excerising infallibility so his case can't be used to disprove papal infallibility.

Ubenedictus: Abeg make una help me confirm e b like say sal c say 12 no too much. Abeg i read am well?

YES YES you read am well.

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Syncan:

Sorry Sal C, I could not come back till now. However, I no start anything ma'am, all those involved in the matter get "us" as suffix for their names, honorius, sergius, theodorus...if you check our names, you go see who im own end for "us", na that person you go hold o.

no be for my mouth you wan hear am.

eh eh! So na my name end with us abi? So na me cause am? Syncan i don begin vex.

Syncan:

Pope honorius did not "teach" heresy. He merely failed to condemn one, hence did not stop, even encouraged, its spreading by his silence. Moreso, he never claimed his stand on the matter was binding on all catholics, which is a pre-requsite for infallibility as I earlier stated.
He neither made his opinion binding on all, nor condemned the other opinion. Infallibility claim cannot be invoked here.

This is to the best of my knowledge.

That means he was merely indifferent to the heresies of his time not that he taught them.

Ubenedictus: good job, weldn, 1st it is hard to prove pope honorius taught heresy. 2nd a pope posses infallibility only when he teach in his office as universal teacher, and when he publicly pronunces a binding doctrine for the entire church. Honorius wasn't excerising infallibility so his case can't be used to disprove papal infallibility.

So in other words he was condemned for not speaking out against heresies?

Sal C: So in other words he was condemned for not speaking out against heresies?

dis question is so complex that i cant even answer yes or no to it.

Ubenedictus: eh eh! So na my name end with us abi? So na me cause am? Syncan i don begin vex.

I am sorry for me o abeg. Who said that your name end with us, Sal C is it you? Pls no vex, no be your type of "us".

Sal C: That means he was merely indifferent to the heresies of his time not that he taught them.

He wasn't exactly indifferent, he spoke. But as one who is a custodian of the deposit of faith, he ought to have been more direct and clear on his stand and guide the flock on the way to go. His hesitation, followed by his agreement with those who sympathize with the heretics, suggests that he was at least inclined towards not condemning them...and this is against the belief handed down to him.

Syncan:

I am sorry for me o abeg. Who said that your name end with us, Sal C is it you? Pls no vex, no be your type of "us".

Sal C never said said so.

Ubenedictus: dis question is so complex that i cant even answer yes or no to it.

Ok it seems Syncan has thrown more light to that effect.

Syncan:

He wasn't exactly indifferent, he spoke. But as one who is a custodian of the deposit of faith, he ought to have been more direct and clear on his stand and guide the flock on the way to go. His hesitation, followed by his agreement with those who sympathize with the heretics, suggests that he was at least inclined towards not condemning them...and this is against the belief handed down to him.

Pardon my curiousity but is it possible for a pope to keep mute over raging issues during his papacy and not held accountable for them?

Syncan:

I am sorry for me o abeg. Who said that your name end with us, Sal C is it you? Pls no vex, no be your type of "us".

syncan. Syncan syncan. How many times did i call you? U were playing fella with me abi? Who kill dele giwa na baba who come put gida na him know. Who cause d trouble na 'us' who come put ubenedict na him know abi.

Let me take a little diversion. What is d right way to deal with the guy called enigma. D guy don tire me small. E prefer to call me liar than discuss with me. Weytin una think?

Sal C: Pardon my curiousity but is it possible for a pope to keep mute over raging issues during his papacy and not held accountable for them?

he wasn't mute, he took a middle road. Instead of declaring with authority, he said be careful about both phrase. Who knows maybe posterity will say d same for poses like john 23.

Now a more interesting question. Wen was d catholic canon set?

Sal C: Pardon my curiousity but is it possible for a pope to keep mute over raging issues during his papacy and not held accountable for them?

Do understand that I am not giving you an answer with respect to Infallibility, since that will entail some other things coming into consideration. The Command of "feed my Sheep" carries a moral burden. A burden, that the good shepherd does not hesitate long in guiding the sheep on the right path. He has a mandate to show the way, remember what Christ said "I lost none of those you gave me.." John 18:9. That is Christ "submitting his report card", same will be demanded of each shepherd, so the more you delay, the more you lose. However, Will Power to follow Divine illumination is not always instantaneous due to human frailties, you can see that from Peter on the issue of circumcision in the Acts. Also careful and prayerful study is made and reaction time depends also on the complexities involved. If it is very clear what he is to do; and he does not do it, then comes the condemnation which could only come from a later authentic magisterium,(Not like Hypollitus)...another "us".... Outside this, God will be the Judge.

Ubenedictus: Let me take a little diversion. What is d right way to deal with the guy called enigma. D guy don tire me small. E prefer to call me liar than discuss with me. Weytin una think?

Dearest, the boy is just incorrigible, He quotes from a biased historian who is out to paint the church black no matter what. His manner of speech is appalling and he cares not about christian charity in his speech. I simply ignore him as he copies and pastes along. The only Input he makes in his posts seem to be the insulting contents. His posts are filled with twisted half truths, while he keeps shouting obscenities against Catholics. How do you deal with someone who has so much "info", and still remains an Anglican...with its infamous origin. It simply tells you the person is not honest, so Ignore. Or if you care, refute without caring about his comments.

Ubenedictus: syncan. Syncan syncan. How many times did i call you? U were playing fella with me abi? Who kill dele giwa na baba who come put gida na him know. Who cause d trouble na 'us' who come put ubenedict na him know abi.

Na only three times you call me o, ohoo, you see, na fela talk am sef.

Syncan:

Na only three times you call me o, ohoo, you see, na fela talk am sef.

lol, u no serious oh.