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Christianity EtcRe: Don't Replace The Word "A.L.L.A.H" With God, They Are Not The Same by samba123(m): 11:04am On May 17, 2008
THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST. bound the symbol of christian ah! consider also a compass of the bearing idolize by most christian belief
Christianity EtcRe: Christmas Should be Replaced! by samba123(m): 11:01am On May 17, 2008
May kelly

I though your are participating in the Olympic Marathon in China! cheesy

I ask you how many time a christian to be born again and again? is there any assurance on that?
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by samba123(m): 10:55am On May 17, 2008
@4 him

I still waiting the Gospel of Jesus that I ask you to show us “ give us the Good News”
I’m surprise that until know you cann’t probe us were is the Gospel of Jesus I give you the three passage of Jesus he preached it is now you term to shows us the truth. Another thing is when you read those passage of Mark, Luke and Matthew. They all come out to the teaching of the word “The Gospel of the Kingdom of God”
Where is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God?

Why they take much important to accept the production of the Nicene Creed in 325 AD and iconize the Name of Matthew,Mark,Luke and John and shredded thousand of passage to come out in that point. Where is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God that Jesus preached at that time he still alive? Did he preach his life? Did he preach his miracle? Did he preach his lineage? Did he preach to curse the Fig tree? Or did he teach how to move mountain and eat poison to believe in his teaching?


From history we know these two races are distinct.
Yap ! call them “SEMI” half white and half black.


So if i said you and babs787 are birds of the same feather does it mean you have the same parents? You shld be ashamed of your poor scholarship.
I and babs787 are moominin we have the same belief in is’lamic teaching.


Do the babylonians serve Jehovah and possess a torah?
They don’t have the Torah but they believe in One God, “The EL”

the bible has no record of canaanite or sumerian prophets, please check your qu'ran maybe your al'lah smuggled such nonsense into it.
Just say so if you cannot figure it out, you’re swallowing you word that all prophet are Jews I give you some piece of information its up to you to probe it.

But it is correct to say they are the direct ancestors of the jews . . . no?
When your grandparent born in Nigeria and you migrated to American and become American Citizen do you called you Grandparent an American citizen?


Dont be so stupid, that is because as at that time neither Abraham nor Isaac or Jacob was large enough to stand alone as a nation. Oduduwa is regarded as the father of the yorubas, but the term "yoruba" was never used when he was alive . . . does that mean oduduwa is hausa?
But still they faith exist until Today. To believe in One God? Not 1+1+1=1 instead of 3. in mathematic the basic theory should follow if you got the wrong answer you fail in the examination.1+1+1=3 not 1

what has this got to do with you? WHAT OF THE DESCENDANTS OF ISHMAEL? Shouldnt that be of more concern to you dishonest people?
Be real lol a piece of information can lead you to a great result. I just emphasize a little bit history to draw back how the Israeli are suffering in the Hand of Pharaoh at that time not event among them a Jewish people.

Go ask them.
I ask you a simple question that a little child can answer that when was the Israel started to build a nation and called themselves a Jew?
IslamRe: Is It "safe" For A Christian To Read The Qur'an? by samba123(m): 8:04pm On May 13, 2008
4 Him:
Samba, you brought the accusation . . . it is up to you to prove it.
Let's investigate this claim. We will go through six major translations of the bible, and look at what's actually written in Leviticus Chapter 11.

First, the New International Version (NIV).

20 All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you.
21 There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground.
22 Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper.
23 But all other winged creatures that have four legs you are to detest.


Next, the New American Standard Bible (NASB).

20 "All the winged insects* that walk on all fours are detestable to you.
21 "Yet these you may eat among all the winged insects which walk on all fours: those which have above their feet jointed legs with which to jump on the earth.
22 "These of them you may eat: the locust in its kinds, and the devastating locust in its kinds, and the cricket in its kinds, and the grasshopper in its kinds.
23 "But all other winged insects which are four-footed are detestable to you.

* Footnote with the literal translation as "Swarming things with wings".


Next, the Young's Literal Translation (YLT) Bible:

20 Every teeming creature which is flying, which is going on four -- an abomination it [is] to you.
21 Only -- this ye do eat of any teeming thing which is flying, which is going on four, which hath legs above its feet, to move with them on the earth;
22 these of them ye do eat: the locust after its kind, and the bald locust after its kind, and the beetle after its kind, and the grasshopper after its kind;
23 and every teeming thing which is flying, which hath four feet -- an abomination it [is] to you.


And NEXT, the Revised Standard Version (RSV)

20 All winged insects that go upon all fours are an abomination to you.
21 Yet among the winged insects that go on all fours you may eat those which have legs above their feet, with which to leap on the earth.
22 Of them you may eat: the locust according to its kind, the bald locust according to its kind, the cricket according to its kind, and the grasshopper according to its kind.
23 But all other winged insects which have four feet are an abomination to you.


And next is the Darby Version:

20 Every winged crawling thing that goeth upon all four shall be an abomination unto you.
21 Yet these shall ye eat of every winged crawling thing that goeth upon all four: those which have legs above their feet with which to leap upon the earth.
22 These shall ye eat of them: the arbeh after its kind, and the solam after its kind, and the hargol after its kind, and the hargab after its kind.
23 But every winged crawling thing that hath four feet shall be an abomination unto you.


And finally, the King James Version (KJV):

20 All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.
21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
22 Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
23 But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.


Some apologists insist that the King James Version's "fowls" implies that they are speaking about birds. But anyone can clearly see, by looking at it "in context", reading the surrounding verses, that this is not the case. But EVEN IF they are right and the bible is talking about birds, there still aren't any birds with 4 legs.

No claim can henceforth be made that the bible is "inerrant", or without mistakes. But the more one reads the bible, the more it is clear that this error is only one of countless others.
IslamRe: Is It "safe" For A Christian To Read The Qur'an? by samba123(m): 8:00pm On May 13, 2008
kola oloye:
Genesis 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3[b] And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. [/b]

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs,
and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. cheesy
WERE IS THE WORD SUN AND STAR WRITTEN ON THOSE CREATION. cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by samba123(m): 7:54pm On May 13, 2008
4HIM
Read the entire NT, the fundamental doctrines of Christ are clearly enunciated there.
Ok here it is:
Let us get some example in the Bible about Jesus preaching having found this brief information LET EXAMINE THIS VERSES.

"And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, . . ." (Matthew 9:35)

"Now after John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, . . ." (Mark 1:14)

"And it came to pass, that on one of those days, as he taught the people in the temple, and preached the gospel, . . ." (Luke 20:1)
.
WHICH of the GOSPEL WAS JESUS Preached? Mathew, mark, Luke. or John


You always mocking in this forum about the Gospel of Barnabas can you show us the Gospel of Jesus so that we can compare and come out to the conclusion of this topic.


this is so dumb it makes you want to puke. The Egyptians, ethiopians, greeks, cypriots, persians are as old as 4000yrs as a people . . . if they still exist today then why not the jews?
Roman historian Tacitus wrote that many of his time believed that the Jews "were a race of Ethiopian origin."
The Bible classifies the Ethiopians & Jews together, "Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the Lord." (Amos 9:7)
That the Jews got their language, religion & culture from the Canaanites & Sumerians through Babylon, is well documented by historians.
Tell me which of the prophets of the Canaanites and Sumerians recorded in the Jewish books as you pointed out that all prophet are descendant of Isaac and Jacob consider as Jews.
It is incorrect to refer to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as Jews. Because the terms “Jew” and Judaism” were not used generally to refer to this Nation until hundreds of year after their time. To make the story short, we came out the Children of Israel/Jacob. As centuries passed by , the descendants of Israel/Jacob became slaves in Egypt. They suffered greatly under the hand of Later Pharaohs. But God brought the children of Israel/Jacob out of Egypt under the leadership of Moses. God revealed the Torah to his people, both the written and oral Torah.
When the Children of Israel was started to build as a Nation and declared themselves as Jewish people?
IslamRe: Is It "safe" For A Christian To Read The Qur'an? by samba123(m): 6:41pm On May 11, 2008
4 Him:
why don't you put those verses here if you have them?

why you ashame to put those verses I though you are well verse than me. grin
IslamRe: Is It "safe" For A Christian To Read The Qur'an? by samba123(m): 6:28pm On May 11, 2008
4 Him:
Isaiah 40: 22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
were those passage in the Bible said the Insect has four legged, and the earth is flat and the sky has a permanent and the Sun , star uncreated? kindly put it here lol grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by samba123(m): 6:24pm On May 11, 2008
@4Him

Your question here makes no sense, maybe you shld rephrase it. There were 12 disciples, after the death of Judas . . . the other 11 nominated Matthias to take his place. Acts 1:24-26
Why you avoiding my question regarding the preaching of Jesus which Gospel are the fundamental doctrines he delivers to his apostle/minister?





Just like you have French people, Germans, Welsh . . . so do you have Jews who are descendants of the sons of Jacob.
When was that the nationality of French, German and British and Jews declare their residency is that in 4000 year back? Then if not 4000 years back the residency of the Jews people are unrecognized. Then you question have been answer not all the prophet came to be a Jews as what you convey before.



Over recycled "question" usually thrown up whenever they are confused and need an excuse to run away
You just run off when your god call another deity instead call himself. You just make me laughed grin lol how you justify those word! And non of you can truly articulate for that facts.
IslamRe: Is It "safe" For A Christian To Read The Qur'an? by samba123(m): 7:39pm On May 10, 2008
l4 Him
ol grin dont denied its if you are well verse in your Bible. if you like i can help you to put those verses grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by samba123(m): 7:28pm On May 10, 2008
4Him
it seem you cann't satisfy may question I ask you?

what is the Gospel of Jesus preached to his 11 disciple if we disregard Barnabas?


when was the Jews citizen ship declare 4000 years back?

why Jesus call his god instead called himself if he is God?
IslamRe: Is It "safe" For A Christian To Read The Qur'an? by samba123(m): 2:39pm On May 10, 2008
4 Him:
the "truth" has stood firm for 4000yrs.
uuh. undecided4000years !4000-1400=2600 years were those extra year gone preaching the bible. before the advent of the Glorious Qur'an.
and what the Genesis said god forget to create the Sun and Star.
and the insect have a four legged and the earth is flat, and the sky has a Permanent what a nice stuff hoax momas. grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by samba123(m): 2:32pm On May 10, 2008
@cgift
Take the first challenge head-on if you dare
The second poser? well, i thought we had already established the fact the so-called gospel of barnabas is a fraud.
And while you are deceiving to the principle of Barnabas can you tell us why they include him in the 12 disciple of Jesus? What gospel did Jesus preach to his 12 disciples and they came out different obstacle to rule out?

Where were you all this while? Start reading from the beginning friend.
Lol I’m just around while you are not present in this moment

4Him, you are making so much sense. Fire on. These guys are just not getting it!
Why you praise yours fellow who cann’t event rollout the Bible for their mistake?
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by samba123(m): 2:30pm On May 10, 2008
@4Him
There is NO topic in the sense that:
- The "gospel of barnabas" has been proven beyond a doubt to be a forgery.
Which verses/passage are you referring for is a forgery made by Barnabas? And why they called him a Saint if he is a fraudulent fellow.




- None of you have been able to come up with CONCRETE EVIDENCE to back up your claims that this fraudulent gospel was shld be taken seriously beyond your usual prevaricating.
And why do think we need evidence to show up? Do you mean we Mus’lim should follow the principle of Barnabas? This topic is an information for everybody either you take it or leave it that all !

Samba, use your brain . . .
I use my brain in a nice way to think correctly if I made a mistake that means I’m a human being not perfected by God Almighty.
What about you? Do you think your brain is a numbskull?

why is the qu'ran replete with stories of the history of the jews for 4000yrs and YET NOT ONE PEEP about the descendants of ishmael though you all lie so loudly that the promise of Abraham passed unto ishmael?
I ask you when was the name Jews came from 4000yrs ago? Do you mean the Jews at the time of those years they recognized themselves call them a Jews citizens.? And what is the relationship between Ishmael and Isaac at the time of 4000 yrs decadence? I need a valid proof if there is, if not them the relationship between the two fellow are unknown if so them.

Why is the qu'ran so focused on jewish prophets?
And why is it that the Jews disregard Jesus as prophet and son of god?

While the Qur’an came out to tell the truth to believe in One God as preached by previous prophet. Not like your Bible preached a three godheads and came out to be Jesus that never in his entire life mention/said worship me I’m you god. While he crucified he call his truly God. Can a god call another god if he is a god? Need go reasoning lol on this one?


Why do YOU know ALL the 12 jewish disciples of a jewish Jesus Christ
Is there a Ban reading and knowing the disciples of the jewish people? Of course not.
When was that they implement a restriction order that do not allowed to get some information regarding the disciples of the jewish? While surfing the net all the stuff you can find out?

and YET cannot point to one single ishmaelite prophet before mo'hammad?
Can a nomadic call himself a prophet after Ishmael without knowing god guidance before the advent of Prophet Moh’ammad.? Of course not. And do you think each tribe of the Arab people at the time before Moh’ammad came to existence just proclaimed a messenger of god, is that what you like to point out.
Can an uneducated fellow write a family biography to record the previous event and chronological history of his tribe? How can you write if you no education background and university degree to trace back you lineage 4000years back even the smartest scientist find it’s very difficult to come out to a real conclusion.


These are concrete issues . . . you can't be hugging the gospel of barnabas, himself another jew, while telling us to take your lies seriously.
What is that suppose to be you want as to accept and turn to be a Jews people? Be real lol this topic is just an example that Barnabas preached coincide with the mus’lim belief of Jesus nothing at all can you change the advent of the musl’im world.
Christianity EtcRe: What Law Was Nailed To The Cross? by samba123(m): 11:17am On May 10, 2008
what other thing you can show up aside the north, south, east, west bound that most of you are using.
Christianity EtcRe: What Law Was Nailed To The Cross? by samba123(m): 11:16am On May 10, 2008
what other thing you can show up aside the north, south, east, west bound that most of you are using.
Christianity EtcRe: Gay Pastor Rocks Lagos by samba123(m): 6:00pm On May 08, 2008
[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=131520.msg2235436#msg2235436 date=1210186555]Oh I do condemn it as does the Catholic Church. I am just amazed that the Protestants are not quick to condemn this man and others as they have done the Priests of the Catholic Church.
Hypocricy at its finest.



May God console the boys. Amen.[/quote]Hypocricy to fit in condemnation? or a producer of pedo church foundation? grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by samba123(m): 5:57pm On May 08, 2008
@4Him

we are going further to the topic lol

do you really like to trace the lineage of Ishmael 4000 years back? undecided

or you just like to make a non sense diversion the story of Barnabas? tongue
Christianity EtcRe: How To Detect False Prophets by samba123(m): 6:23pm On May 07, 2008
In my opinion we are now on the twenty century. we have no more prophets but a PUPPET SHOULD BE grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by samba123(m): 6:19pm On May 07, 2008
Most of you against the principle of Barnabas even though he is one of the disciple of Jesus but still you did not accept what he preach. You prepare a false doctrine of Pauline teaching which he even did not meet Jesus in his entire life. a hypocrysis a pharisee which the ebonite hate. cool
Christianity EtcRe: Gay Pastor Rocks Lagos by samba123(m): 6:14pm On May 07, 2008
[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=131520.msg2234746#msg2234746 date=1210177887]ahh where are the crucifiers?

shouldn't he be crucified for this or is God only merciful to pentecostals (protestant)[/quote]You should condem this kind of act a pedo kind so that its can give an example to the christian world

see your bible what should we do to give justice or should shallow it? kiss
Christianity EtcRe: A Christian by samba123(m): 10:50am On May 06, 2008
how you qualify as a christian.

well should praise god 24/7

be honest

be good to your neighbour

be kind and generous

be polite

be down to earth person

and respect you family

and be helpful

that its for me.

and dont forget to Pray you have 8 hour to pray, 8 hour to work and 8hour to sleep
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by samba123(m): 10:32am On May 06, 2008
what a strange the christian call it a fraud and fraudulent book or demon book what a histerical views among you people Barnabas is a disciple of Jesus(as) and now they called him a fraud one fellow. undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Holy Alphabet by samba123(m): 2:27pm On May 05, 2008
then what next after I read your holy alphabet is they any bless about that? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: A Christian Sister Pregnant Before The Wedding: Is It Right? by samba123(m): 2:21pm On May 05, 2008
mistake mistake kiss
Christianity EtcRe: A Christian by samba123(m): 7:44am On May 05, 2008
4 Him:
no, u'd be a confused mus'lim.
lol you might deviate from the topic christian embarassed
Christianity EtcRe: Christmas Should be Replaced! by samba123(m): 5:13pm On Apr 30, 2008
@kola oloye

lol I can't get it grin those verses have different view which one is Authentic can you specify which one are preparable to use. but you still can't define the least and the great kingdom of heaven which is one place but different part of entity. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Christmas Should be Replaced! by samba123(m): 3:57pm On Apr 30, 2008
kola oloye:
The word `whoever` is not referring to the kingdom, it is referring to `any person`.
The word LEAST and GREAT is an adjective qualifying the person"whoever" in the kingdom.
The kingdom of Heaven is one. Thank you.
we are not talking here about noun,pronoun, verb, adjective. we are here to emphasize about heaven the least heaven and the great heaven which is unspecify place. I just like to know which heaven did Jesus are referring for? there must be a particular name for that place the least and the great heaven? if you don't mind
Christianity EtcRe: Catholic Q&A Thread by samba123(m): 3:48pm On Apr 30, 2008
cgift:
@Bobbyaf? You dey find trouble o! Trouble rest, you go wake am. You dey on your own o! grin
Don’t just laugh contribute to your fellow
bobbyat are expressing his ideas what do you think, kindly give also yours reply lol.
undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Christmas Should be Replaced! by samba123(m): 3:10pm On Apr 30, 2008
Read this in Mathew 5:19

“Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

and now tell which kingdom of heaven are referring Jesus(as) he mention the least and the great Heaven but we do not know the name of that heaven suppose to be where it is?
Christianity EtcRe: A Difficult Decision by samba123(m): 11:38am On Apr 30, 2008
try to search polygamy in colorado city USA, you can find such enormous comment regarding this teaching of the church.
Christianity EtcRe: Christmas Should be Replaced! by samba123(m): 11:33am On Apr 30, 2008
@kola oloye
We Muslim have 7 paradise the highest is the Maqam al mahmoud.
what about the Christians Jesus(as) said there is the Least kingdom and the Great kingdom which is unspecify location in the heaven? can you specify that location/place that Jesus mention in the Bibles.

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