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DeepZone:

Deepzone speak in tongues mostly done by ----exorcism--or --voodoo---did you know that

tpia:
once again, try to understand the Nigerian situation.

Imagining Islam is the same all over west Africa, is a delusion.

Nigeria isnt like some other west African countries that are 98% Islamic, regardless what your Muslim Nigerian brothers are telling you.

No one is saying there's no crime in the Christian parts of the country. What the article is about, is the random killings in the name of Islam, which occur more frequently in the Muslim north.

If you visit the political and crime section of nairaland, you'll find news stories on various crimes there, not specific to religious affiliation.

This topic I'm sure was moved to the muslim section due to the jumpy morals police who are always sniffing out any topic that mentions Islam.

so before you start feeling like a victim, show some concern for people who are real victims. Unless you support the manner in which they were killed.

It should not be like that, I feel sorry for that victim, who suffered from brutally cowardice acts than by his fellow Muslims or family members.

My point here every violent behavior the name Muslims is always associated with his/her Religion. On the other hand, if violence committed by other parties likes the Christian or Jews you cannot read or mention what religion they affiliated. It means they consider then as under the category of Christianity either whatever denomination or ethnic you belong except Muslims. This is the problem that I like to emphasize here no matter how you explain to them that Religion has nothing to do with individual act of violence, because every individual front to commits violence in term of cultural differences, political, tribalism, racism, terrorism, family feud, etc.

What are happening now the spread of Hatred to the Muslim world are enormous? The entire Muslim are suffering to this kind of maniac propaganda done by the media of giving such miss inform reports. We are trying to educate people here to read more about Islam and get enlighten.

davidylan:
dear ma, have you ever asked anyone to produce this "uncorrupted" books? Or are you merely repeating the lies they fed to you are jummat?

Is this the same "corrupt" bible that your brother Samba is here bleating about? you people are beyond confused.

When was that I bleating you? All this grumble accusation is always on your part I never hear you giving some acknowledgement in this forum a nice debate. You are much more opposite and hypocrite to admit your false even to your fellow brother and sister who are seeking guidance.

We are giving you some verses in your books to clarifying the issue and explain to the public, you jump into your chair and screaming like a child who don’t no anything about it. Instead you accusing us of “corrupted” plagiarized words. When will you learn to accept false in your part? Considering a lot of passages in the bible them as “Word of God”. How you assess yourself to be a “true Christian”? Can we hear some feedback coming from you as a Christian errant?

davidylan:
The reason is simple, as long as Jesus Christ is God it is an automatic indication that mohammad was a false prophet and allah indeed is nothing but a false god.

muslims like to play the hypocrisy card. On one hand they DESPERATELY need the bible as cover for their religion hence their struggle to claim to "believe in Jesus as a prophet", on the other hand it is imperative that they do not recognise Jesus Christ as who He truly is - GOD . . . for the reasons noted earlier.

That is deceitful you take credit to your false little god Jesus read what the Quran says;

O people of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary , was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit form Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not “THREE” ! It is better for you ! Allah is Only ONE GOD. far is it removed for His transcendent majesty that he should have a son. His is all that is in the Heavens and all that is in the Earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender. Chapter 4 Al Nisa verse 171


How could you explain this? Are we deaf, dump to this passage written in your book?

Matthew 27.46
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, "Eli (ilah), Eli, (,ilah) la'ma sabach-tha'ni?" that is, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"


Mark 12:29 Jesus answered, 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is ONE;

DeepZone:

Deepzone are now confusing were is the amulet that give you guidance everyday 

Queenisha

[

b]Isaiah 9:6: “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace[/b]

Who is this child to be born?

What is wonderful counselor?

Mighty god?
Everlasting father?
Prince of peace?

What is the different between king of peace and prince of peace?

I might be stumble to this passage never mention any personal name just conjecture of words.

Isaiah 7:14: “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel

When was that? I need a date here lol kindly give us a precise date and year that child to be born.

Who is this Immanuel?

How many Immanuel appearing in the bible?

21 And she will have a son, and you are to name him Jesus,* for he will save his people from their sins."6

First the name in Isaiah 7:14 is Immanuel now changed to Jesus? What a confusing name? two name two gods?

22 All of this happened to fulfill the Lord's message through his prophet:

23 "Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son, and he will be called Immanuel* (meaning, God is with us)."

That name imply God with us is Immanuel not a humankind quite confusing. How God stay with us if we’re a sinner?

Insha Allah you can ease your problem brother

Trust Allah everything has a solution for that.

Queenisha:
Can you at least speak proper English and use upper case letters in the appropriate places.
How can you come into a public forum and disgrace yourself like that ?
_{samba abi clanging cymbals}

did you find difficulty in reading upper case letters? are we in English subject teaching people how to get a 100% score.

Just answer my query if you can ? if not never mind, and try give us some little fact regarding the divinity you claiming him as god.

[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=158957.msg2639497#msg2639497 date=1218446866]What kind of nonsense is this?

Please go and learn about their religion and don't ask silly questions. Thanks.[/quote]Lady you're jugmental to other try  freedom of speak ? did somebody post warning in this thread to be specify in their Question? feeling arrogant lol

tpia:
I don't know why you're feeling persecuted over this story.

Did you not read the part where it says the man was killed because THEY SAID he blasphemed the name of Mohammed?

I doubt you're Nigerian. Its always obvious when a non-Nigerian muslim is talking.

anybody can claimed that way regardless of what kind of word had been using for. But accusing forming hatred to Religion is another thing. and exposing only Muslim committed that kind of Act. there are so many incident if you like to expose in every corner of the world

DeepZone:
You are always looking for whom to direct to your mosque.

did you get educated to this kind of argument regarding amulet. what amulet do you have? in carrrying to protect you forever?

I need to know when was Jesus became God? can you give me some evidence regarding his position in the Heaven. can i know the date and day he was taking an oath pledging His position as god.

fact are alway there why disregard it when you will be learn to take it seriously that the Bible

are full of fables and myth.

Why this people are taking so much interest in reporting such incident that a Muslim group of people committing such an act of violence in their vicinity. Can we educate our self to this kind of information. In everyday life violence are always reported either Christian or Muslim. Why exposing this kind of incident just for the Muslim? Are their Zero incident committed by Christian everyday? Try to goggle and search how many crimes are reported and unreported done by the Christian world. why take so much interest to destroy The Name of Muslim? Why in every accident or violent Religion is always the culprit than by individual? Why if violence committed by the Christian religion are out of it?

davidylan:
Keep quiet you noise maker. When i asked you to define sin from the standpoint of the quran what did you do besides hem, haw and try to insult your way out of your own embarrasment?

Now u're hear demanding an answer?

well our discussion about sin in the Quran I give you some of them but instead given such credited for the sake of argument you trashed them all. and I need to give a nice presentation of your argument that all your question are contradicting.

now back to the question again in this thread to I have you beautiful ugly answer

samba123:
Did Muslim committed any atrocity to your life and you accusing the entire muslim world?

I did not heard about that, do you think the One who committed that act is related to me and other Muslim alike from far east or west or south? what a childish thinker

powderPink:
bunch of religious MORONS

what about your lovely MORONs

[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=154513.msg2634877#msg2634877 date=1218333861]Um I really didn't want to comment on this, but this caught my eye and I will just like to let you know that the Crusades were not terrorists. The only reason the crusades started was because the muslims invaded Christian lands, killed the men, raped the women, and forced them to convert "choose islam or choose death"

The Christians were standing up for themselves and claiming back their homes. It was in no means a "let's go kill the infidels"

Don't for one minute equate the crusades to the terrorism of Islam.


Now with that being said. I really think some of you just want to turn a blind eye to your history and your present and you future. Because you see, terrorism has always existed in Islam. Go check your history. If it all began in recent times, I would understand, but the fact that it has been going on since the inception and introduction of Islam to the world? It is hard to believe so.

And to the young lady who said that terrorism is just for political purpose? You may not have realised it but Islam is also religious and political. There is no separation of religion and politics in Islam. Not as there is a separation of Church and State.
So I guess Islam is terrorism, and no it is not out of ignorance that I speak. If you seriously believe that your religion is about peace, then you are very ignorant of your religion.[/quote]------------------------------------------

From Babs787

Question
If Islam is a religion of love & peace, why do Muslims seek to kill all those who disagree with them?


Answer
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear brother, thanks a lot for your good question. We commend your efforts in pursuit of knowledge.

First of all, it should be clear that Islam maintains the protection of life and does not sanction any violation against it, irrespective of the people’s religion, race, sect, etc,  The Qur’an says about the prohibition of murder, “…Take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus does He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.” (Al-An`am: 151) “Nor take life, which Allah has made sacred, except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, We have given his heir authority (to demand Qisas or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life; for he is helped (by the law)” (Al-Isra’: 33)

According to the Qur’an, killing any person without a just cause is as big a sin as killing the whole humanity and saving the life of one person is as good deed as saving the whole humanity. (See Al-Ma’idah: 32) [/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][color=#990000][/color]Muslims do not hate – let alone kill - non-Muslims, be they Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhist or followers of any religion or no religion. Our religion does not allow killing any innocent person regardless of his or her religion. The life of all human beings is sacrosanct according to the teachings of the Qur’an and the guidance of our blessed Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and upon all the Prophets and Messengers of Allah.

When we Muslims state that Islam is a religion of peace, we are not trying to prove something unreasonable or solve a crossword puzzle. Rather, we are just stating a fact backed by clear-cut evidence and unquestionable proofs. Even we don’t need to state this fact, for Islam, in itself, is self-explanatory, in terms of its meaning, its noble teachings and the core of its message conveyed by the Prophets Allah sent to mankind.

With that statement, we don’t intend to sound apologetic, for Islamic concept of peace is very clear. It does not mean weakness, slavishness or surrendering to aggression and injustice. The Islamic concept of peace aims at securing security and harmony for the whole world, without any discrimination as to religion, race or color. Thus, Islam, right from its inception, waged a total war against injustice and oppression. It has made it clear that people should not be deprived of having access to the light of guidance. But throughout its history you can never find any trace of infringing upon people’s right to self expression, even at times that such right was misused. The cogent example to be mentioned here is the way the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, received the two envoys sent by Musailamah Al-Kazzab (the Liar). His fine remarks always ring in mind whenever the issue of diplomatic immunity comes to fore. He, peace and blessings be upon him, told the envoys when they addressed him in a very provocative way: “If not that the envoys should not be killed, I’d have ordered for you to be beheaded”, thus laying down the rule that was later codified as one of the principles of the modern international law.

The point here is, it’s not of the Islamic teachings to kill people just because they happen to be non-Muslims or happen to disagree with Muslims on some points. What attests to this is the fact that the first war in the Islamic history would have never occurred if not that the enemies of Islam could not be satisfied with expelling Muslims from their home (Makkah), rather they planned to carry the aggression to Madinah in order to exterminate Muslims once and for all. So the question that should have been asked is: why do opponents are always on the trail of Muslims?

Focusing more on your question, Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and an Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states[/b]:

[b]“Islam is indeed a religion of love and peace. Islam does not teach people to kill all those who disagree with them simply because they disagree with them. If certain bigoted Muslims did so that is not the fault of Islam. How unjust would it be to say that Christianity is a religion that teaches violence and blood shed by looking at the historical performance of some so-called Christians: After all, Hitler who committed genocide against the Jews, the white supremacists in South America who practiced barbarities against the blacks, the Serbs who committed genocide against the Muslims in Bosnia, those who systematically practiced mass slaughter of Muslims and Jews in Spain, and burned heretics, etc. all claimed to be Christians. What about the Christians still killing each other in Ireland? So why use double standards in judging Islam? Stereotyping is wrong regardless of against whom we use it.

Vast majority of Muslims have nothing to do with such violence or bloodshed that may or may not have been committed by those who claim to be Muslims. According to the strict verdict of the Qur’an, taking life of a single human being unjustly is akin to taking the life of all humanity. A good Muslim, therefore, is one who believes in sanctity of all life. The Prophet, peace be upon him, taught us that if a person were to kill even a single little sparrow, it would appear before the Lord of the worlds seeking God’s justice against the person!” (Source: www.islam.ca)

davidylan:
Samba where are your own answers when we ask for them? Silly hypocrite

while most of you are expecting such a none sense ideal read the read: when is Jesus God? When is He Christ? no one

among of you can give a well documented fact about this claimt do I have if you wish.

bobokanis:
Can i have a place in my heart to forgive Muslims especially terrorists?
I feel like hating them for life!
How can they kill people in the name of religion? I can't understand this.

Did Muslim committed any atrocity to your life and you accusing the entire muslim world?

Missy B:
Can you read your post again and tell me if it makes sense to you?

do you think its difficult to answer that? why are people among you who can't figure it out do I have an answer coming

from you or what.? can you say nothing at all nada zero nil without any proven fact.

My brother he asked about Photography “picture” if allow or not allow

What is photography = the art of taking pictures by means of camera. Making use of the action of light on chemically prepared film and plates.

Picture = an image, representation of an object or scene by painting, drawing, or photography: a portrait :a symbol or type:

Picture (personal Photo) can be use widely in anything for identification purposes like passport, permit, Licensing etc.  or for future record of identifying an individual to trace back his/her personal record. These things are okey.

Picture/ painting/ portrait/ hanging in a wall Mostly view by the scholars it is not allowed to put such an object in the house for decoration or admiration such things.


Allah alam , Allah know best

I don't see any good answer from the Audience explained regarding "When Is Jesus God and When is He Christ?

When is Jesus God?  today, tomorrow next year etc, kindly explain the thing stead of post a
                               r  uuuuuuuu     ,                  ubbish comment.

When is He Christ? before or after what constitute him becoming of christ? we need a brief explaination regarding this claimant oh, 

These are interesting many people say they are Christians, but does this profession measure up against what the Bible says a Christian is? Is there any “Realy Christian here in Nairaland” kindly express yourself if anyone qualify to this condition.

If you say you are a Christian, what is the basis for saying this?
Your answer might be something like one of the following statements.

Most commonly claim by individual.

I live in a Christian country?

I have always been a Christian?

my parents were Christians?

I have always been to church?

I don't do anything to hurt other people?

I am a moral and upright citizen?

I do a lot of work for Charities?
Do these categories claim you’re a real Christian or what? But, what other people if they engage other activities opposite to that, do they also call a Christian?

if you tell that to the police if they carry amulets? the answer is yes Bulletproof vest that is the latest.

Yes Religion become a business and Business become a Religion do you agree on that. Mind is just a juxtapose we’re seeing more people are greedy of wealth, ambitious, and politically expose to attract more big fish in their agenda, to enriches themselves is the easies way. The only recommended solution for that is Becoming Cautious among you people whom you adore your idols Pastor/Priest and become preys to their niche. Therefore, wake up Christianity think for tomorrow their still hope for you for voicing youre sentiment in a public not hiding it, is a grievous sin.

huxley:
Why did god create humans in a world that was already polluted then? Some god that is?

Then what is the solution for that to cure those diseases are spreading? why blaming god?

Tgirl4real:
I don't understand the madness about today being the eight day of the eight month of the year 2008. What is the significance of the date and why are churches scrambling here and there to hold programmes today?

Someone should please help me out.

That is the opening ceremony of Olympic In China today to commemorate in this day the event of Athletic competition

Nice Mukina, fo, r , posting those Dua/supplication Ramadan is Approaching with need to reviewed it again and again so that we should not forget those verses.

Nice post babs jazakal Allahkair

Hardballer:
True that don't blive the statue was cryin either. . . so. . . whats goin to happen to the meat?

well, we know the meat are perishable it might not last longer if turn into petrify stone can be stay longer, but that is impossible in existence.

davidylan:
Sad to admit but it is clear that many so-calle catholics have no clue what there doctrine is all about.

So you conclude your so called catholics brother and sister bound to be confuse and yours are right