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@MayKelly
How many times a Christians to be born again? Do you think after they repent for their sins they will not commit again a sin like lying or fornication? Is there a guarantee/assurance about to be “born again” I see much more people are hiding their secret.

@mayKelly

Oh! You Hypocrites, and harisees, go and ask the rich man in the Bible and lazarus, Oh! You people of the days of NOAh, go and ask the perished people in those days, Oh! Samba go and ask the people of SODOM AND GOMORAH.

So tell me, Who are you? Only but a merry dust.

Whether you accept it or not = THESE WORDS YOU HAVE READ IN THIS THREAD SHALL JUDGE YOU IN THE LAST DAY, so Boy read below:

Then give me a nice explanation regarding repentance? Do you think that children need to repent for their Sin? Do you think that the deaf people need to raise their voice to repent? Ooh my dear May Kelly you have a lot of assignment to do now.

@samba123, babs787, olabowale,

Off course a m.u.s.l.i.m ( sons of belial) would not be found in Heaven, so there is no need for you to fret and be obstinate about Heaven,

Your heaven seem to be a tag of war between Angel and Devil. Why a perfect place become a devastating home of the believer if it is there a war? Just figure it out lol.

Nonethless, your logic about Heaven only goes to show the shallowness of your understanding and reasoning. Your logic is that same thing as asking the question that:

1. why did God create a man that can sin

God created human being to worship him not to commit sin. There is guidance to believe in ONE God but instead you believe in the trinity of Gods.

2. why did God not create robots that could not and never would be able to sin,

He give you all the free will to do every thing in your life no need to become a robotic teaching, need to dictates every individual person.

3. why did God create Lucifer in the first place

God can’t complete if there is not trial among the people in this Earth. That is why you should pass the test and disregard the devil works.

Your kind of logic makes sense when one considers that A, LLAH promises you people willing and robotic virgins that are only there for your sexual needs, virgins that continue to have their virginity replenished even after you have had sex with them,

Robotic virgin that a new stuff lol. I don’t know were those ideas came from. And kindly read this VERSE in the Bible it talk about virgin for you also lol. In Matthew 25:1 Jesus says: "At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom." Witness you should increase you preaching 10 more virgins are waiting in you now.

1. One thing that the bible clearly shows is that God created everything perfect,

But the Bibles are more mystify error people are questioning about this for a long time ago until now.

2. Also God gave Men the ability to choose, (freedom of choice), (Something that Alllah does not like and cannot comprehend)

You have freedom to choose which fitted to the eyes of Al’lah not to the wrong side of it that most of you prepare to commit. You disobey the teaching of the prophet to believe in One God not in the Trinity doctrine which can’t be found in the bibles.

3. Lucifer choose to sin

Just think there also bad among good people. Bad people divided into two the Good Bad and Bad Bad.

4. Man choose to sin

Freedom of choice lol

5. The other 1/3 of all Angels in heaven also choose to follow Lucifer into sin,

No proven article regarding this? Can you explain it further in a good citation please.

@joshjosh

NO WARS, NO PAINS OR TEARS IN HEAVEN.

ok

DO YOU WANT TO GET THERE?

Everybody are striving for that no reason to argue

JESUS IS THE WAY AND ONLY PASSPORT YOU NEED.

Therefore you need passport going to your heaven? Well our is free passport the only thing you bring is Prayer.

OKAY YOU MAY WANT YOUR HYMN BOOKS, CANDLES, HOLY WATER AND SOME GOOD WORKS ALONG
YOU DONT NEED THEM THERE

Our is no need of candles and holy water but prayer is the best passages you can bring lol

DO YOU STILL WANT TO GO THERE?

Well, if you pass the examination given to you then that is all your reward.

TELL JESUS YOU WANT A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM TODAY

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No need to tell Jesus (as) because his is not in charge for that position as mediator only the Creator Almighty God is the arbiter.

@MayKelly

@Samba, you lack WISDOM. THE BIBLE says "in all getting, get Wisdom. That Wisdom is the Principal thing"
let it be known to you that [b]"JESUS CHRIST CHILDREN WILL NEVER SIT AT THE SAME HEAVEN WITH THE ISAH PEOPLE. JESUS children will definetly sit at the upper upper heaven While you will sit at the LOWER HEAVEN our footstool.

Don’t say it to me think about yourself you lack knowledge/wisdom and intellect for Believing The Bible which are many defect of inside passage. While you can’t figure it out for a 2000 years the controversies exist and never changed/corrected, but instead of correcting the mistake they changed words and adding words which make them more vulnerable and confused. If your teacher thought you to read and write if you commit a mistake he will spot that mistake and comeout to a right one. But your Bible still sleeping until now without any correction at all for those controversies exist long long time ago before you came out.

So which way is it and how do you know your belief is the correct one? I see another May Kelly struggle to this?

Is that another Law of the vatican to exhume human.? well the earth are becoming narrow they need to adopt new strategy to come out a little bit inexpensive.

kola oloye:
HELL AND HEAVEN ARE REAL.If you miss heaven you can't miss hell.
Don`t forget this :`except a man repents and be born again he cannot
see the kingdom of God` REPENT NOW - JESUS IS LORD

@May kelly,
The joy of the Lord is your strenght.

aahh! that what you think if people will not repent do you think they are in Hell ? anobody can tell we you expire your duty here on earth lol.

May kelly:
@Samba your brother have already told you what you are. When you wake from slumber, call on me. Iam ready.

You're a childish character i don't entertain people like you

entendes.

adios

May kelly:
Samba123, and others alike.

I don’t know how you come to that Idea, why you then don’t include other person it better direct your point right away here because they are not engage to this type of discussion. It seem your are a childish fellow who’s style is come and go and hit your enemies at the back. Hit and run style lol.

Is bloodline are important to trace the beginning of the existence of human being? if we like to trace human race we should know the type of bloodline of each individual to come out this result. Just my comment if is possible?

@OLAADEGBU

Truth found specifically in the revelation of God in history written in the bible tells us that in the beginning of time God(Elohim, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit) created heaven(space) and earth(matter) in six literal days and rested on the seventh. Elohim said let us(the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) make man (spirit, soul and body) in our(Father, Son and Holy Spirit) image and after our(Father, Son and Holy Spirit) likeness. Genesis 1:1-27

how could you say that Elohim is the father, son and holy spirit. even the Israel who's original word came from them they denie the existed of the son. and now you defined by your own word you should be specify for your definition. if you read the old testament.

@Uche2nna

What is so big in the fact that George Bush went and picked him up in the airport.?

Did president G.Bush Kneeling to the Pope?

I so people are kneeling to the Pope how important he is seem to be like god in this earth?

candy:
HER EXCELLENCEY, THE MODERATOR, I wonder why my posts were removed! I smell cowardice. . . just because I said(and I repeat) that you have no right to change the word IMOLE( omo to ni iya oun o ni sun, oun naa o ni foju ba orun) to the great religion! I know you'll remove this(or ban me), no worries.

Just stick to the Topic lol

Ndipe

The Holy Bible is not contradictory.

You did not Read the Bibles that is why ?

All these visible appearances of God were the manifestations of Jesus Christ who is also God!

Then there is appearance and visible God? but you see god by your naked eyes

[Remember, God the Father cannot be seen.

Only that i agree that the Father can't be seen it make sense

We can only come to Him through His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ, Amen

I dont believe you assessment here it doesn't make sense.

This Thread are becoming dormant if I can't bring this issue's so I prepare to put some little thing to be active. I know some of them are hidding if expose like this one.

@McUsman

I will not retort you because we are both Mus’lim. Next time if you misquote me again you expect a payback.

May kelly:
@Samba the Athesist, where you there when your parents gave birth to you? did you witness the event? or just guessing by your own statement.

@Samba the Athesist, where you there when the teachers arrived at 2 to be the answer of 1 plus 1, did you witness the event? or just guessing by your own statement.

@Samba the Athesist, then who made the sun to shine at day, can you probe it? did you witness the creation of the sun? or just guessing by your own statement.

@Samba the Athesist, How and where did you arrive on earth? is this earth? can you probe it? or just guessing by your own statement.

@Samba the Athesist, why do you wear cloth? to cover your unclothedness? who told you, you were naked? can you probe it? did you witness the unclothedness scene? or just guessing by your own statement.

@Samba the Athesist, why do you slide your mouth? who told you is smile? can you probe it? did you witness the event? or just guessing by your own statement.

@Samba the Athesist, why do you believe the computer? did you witness the event? or just guessing by your own statement.

You see ! even one statement you can't probe it.

Question continue

6.What about Mark 10:18-19?: "Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked. "Only God is truly good!" Do these two verses not clearly state that Jesus was not God?


7.If Jesus is God, what does Mark 13:32 mean?: "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor I myself, but, only the Father." If Jesus was Lord, how could he not know the future?

8.What about Mark 12:29: "Jesus replied, 'The one that says, 'Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is the one and only God. And you must love him with all your heart and soul and mind and strength.'" What about Matthew 4:10; 6:24, Mark 10:18, Luke 18:19?

9.Matthew 12:17-18 quoting from the Old Testament, states that Jesus was the Servant of God. Is there not any difference between the Servant of God and God?

10.Why do you ignore the verses expressing that Jesus was a "messenger of God" (Matthew 21:11,46; Luke 7:16; 24:19; John 4:19; 6:14)?

11. Why does John 1:18 have a different text in different versions? Did Jesus see God or not?

12.Why are all the verses used to justify the Trinity questionable? For instance, many Christian scholars acknowledge that the crucial word "begotten" in John 1:14,18 and 3:16,18 does not exist in the original manuscripts. Why, is the phrase "son of God" changed into "the only begotten Son of God"?

let us take this simple Question I think it's better to take some important issued like this one


1. Why is the Trinity not taught in thirty nine books of the Old Testament?

Maybe the Christian are mostly like a new stuff. They are sick of the old age they need a new taste.

2.Is it not an important principle of faith?

Yes the old one

3.Why didn't Noah, Abraham, Moses, David etc. preach that doctrine?

Just like a normal fellow who do not know the previous history

Only the ungodly are tempted with evil:
"But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own last, and enticed." (James 1:14)

The Racial "God"
"God" was a tribal Jew: "The Lion of the tribe of Juda." (Revelation 5:5)

"God" came for the Jews only:
"But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 15:24)

Racial discrimination of "God":
"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 10:5-6)

The kingdom of "God":
"And he (Jesus) shall reign over the house of Jacob forever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end." (Luke 1:33)

The titles of "God":
"The King of the Jews". (Matthew 2:2); "The King of Israel". (John 1:49; 12:13)

A "God" Unlike the GodA hungry "God":
"Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered." (Matthew 21:18). "And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry." (Mark 11:12)


A thirsty "God":
"(He) saith, I thirst." (John 19:28)

A sleepy "God":
"He was asleep." (Matthew 8:24). "He fell asleep." (Luke 8:23). "And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow." (Mark 4:38)

A weary "God":
"Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well." (John 4:6)

A groaning "God":
" He groaned in the spirit, and was troubled." (John 11:33). "Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave." (John 11:38)

A weeping "God":
"Jesus wept." (John 11:35)

A sorrowing "God":
"And (he) began to be sorrowful and very heavy. Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death." (Matthew 26:37-38)

A hysterical "God":
"And (he) began to be sore amazed and to be very heavy." (Mark 14:33)

A weak "God":
"And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him." (Luke 22:43)

The "God" of war:
Jesus said: "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." (Matthew 10:34)

A "God" cursing a tree:
"And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward forever. And presently the fig tree withered away." (Matthew 21:19)


A "God" who did not want to be called "good":
"And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God." (Matthew 10:18)

A "God" who was servant of God:
"Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles." (Matthew 12:18)



A "God" who was prophet of God:
"And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:" (Luke 24:19)

The "God" On the Run
"God" was panic-stricken: "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him." (John 7:1)

"God" walked in fear of the Jews:
"Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death. Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews." (John 11:53-54)

"God" has shown a clean pair of heels:
"Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand." (John 10:39)

"God" fled in disguise:
"At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds." (John 8:59)

The Capture of "God"
A friend betrayed the hiding place of "God": "And Judas also, which betrayed him, knew the place: for Jesus oft-times resorted thither with his disciples. Judas then, having received a band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons." (John 18:2-3)

"God" was arrested, bound and led away:
"Then the band and the captain and officers of the Jews took Jesus, and bound him, and led him away." (John 18:12-13)

"God" was humiliated:
"And the men that hold Jesus mocked him, and smote him. And when they had blindfolded him, they struck him on the face." (Luke 22:63:64). "Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands." (Matthew 26:67)

"God" was defenseless:
"One of the officers which stood by struck Jesus with the palm of his hand", he said, "Why smitest thou me?" (John 18:22-23)

"God" was condemned to death:
"And they all condemned him to be guilty of death." (Mark 14:64). "They answered and said, He is guilty of death" (Matthew 26:66).

The dumb and docile "God":
"He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth" (Acts 8:32).

The cursed "God" by God:
"Christ had redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hanged on a tree" (Galatians 3:13).

The End of "God"
The dying "God": "And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost" (Mark 15:37).

The dead "God" :
"Christ died" (Romans 5:6). "He was dead" (John 19:33).

The corpse of "God":
"He (Joseph) went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered." (Matthew 27:58)

The shroud of "God":
"And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth." (Matthew 27:59)


Now we can analyst the status of Jesus as we replace the word “God” all the verses we have been quoted from the New Testament without any doubt that Jesus(as) was a HUMAN BEING LIKE US.!

He does not shared/joint the nature of God nor was he in every way like God. But he was selected by Almighty God as a messenger o confirm the message of previous messengers to WORSHIP GOD ALONE.

The confession and repentance of "God":
Before the beginning of his public ministry, "Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist (Matthew 3:13), which signified the confession of sins (Matthew 3:6), and repentance from sins (Matthew 3:11).

"God" was twelve years old when his parents took him to Jerusalem: "Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover. and when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast." (Lk. 2:41-42)

The powerless "God":
Jesus said, "I can of mine own self do nothing." (John 5:30)

"God" was ignorant of the hour:
Jesus said, "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32)

"God" was ignorant of the season:
"And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he (Jesus) was hungry: And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find anything thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet." (Mark 11:12-13)

"God" was unlettered:
"Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?" (John 7:14-15)

"God" learned through experience:
"Learned he obedience by the things which he suffered." (Hebrews 50

The Tempting Of "God"
The devil tempted "God" for 40 days: "And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness. And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan." (Mark 1:12-13)



The devil tempted "God" continuously:
"And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season." (Luke 4:13)

Like the sinners, "God" was tempted in all things:
" But (he) was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." (Hebrews 4:15)

True God cannot be tempted with evil:
"God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempeth he any man." (James 1:13)

imhotep:
@samba123
I suggest you meditate on the implications of being 'True God and True Man'.

I don't meditate but the Saint are more on the Meditating technique they praising God an Hour or more

The country of "God":
Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king." (Matthew 2:1)

The occupation of "God":
"Jesus was a carpenter by trade (Mark 6:3), and the son of a carpenter." (Matthew 13:55)

The transport of "God":
"Behold, the King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass." (Matthew 21:5). "And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon." (John 12:14)

The wining and dining "God":
" The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners." (Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:34)

The poverty of "God":
"And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head." (Matthew 8:20).

"God" was a devout Jew:
"And in the morning, rising up a great while before day, he went out, and departed into a solitary place, and there prayed." (Mark 1:35)

The Family of "God"
"God" was the son of Joseph: ", Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph." (John 1:45)

Brother of "God":
"But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother." (Galatians 1:19 and Matthew 13:54-56)

Mother of "God":
"Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, , " (John 19:25)

The Development of "God"
Spiritual development of "God": "And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom." (Luke 2:40)

Let us see what you call Jesus(as) 100% god Nature this is just an example people.

This Pauline fabrication is so well embedded in today's teachings of Christianity, "Jesus is God", or "Jesus is Lord" is the number one motto. It is claimed that "Jesus shares the nature of God, and he is in every way like God. "

We will replace the word "Jesus" with "God".

Our intention is not to insult anyone; but rather to highlighting those Christian who are not familiar with the bibles.

(Matthew 7:23). As you see, the doctrine of Trinity, which was fabricated by Paul, and influenced the authors of the Gospels is an insult to God Almighty and to the intelligence of men.

The Birth of "God"
"God" was created from the seed of David: "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh." (Romans 1:3)

The ancestors of "God":
"The generations of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham." (Matthew 1:1)

The sex of "God": "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called Jesus." (Luke 2:21)

How Mary conceived and delivered "God":
"The days were accomplished that she should be delivered," (Luke 2:6). "And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered." (Revelation 12:2)

"God" sucked the paps of a woman:
"And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked." (Luke 11:27)

@kola oloye

Jesus said` I`M THE WAY,THE TRUTH AND LIFE,

wow which way and the truth and life ? can you specify briefly?

Bin laden is one the famous name in Arabia are now giving as a big/ little assignment to answers those question.

Before you answer this question you should read first the page 1 so that you can get some idea and apply to this question. Okey.

1.Did Jesus(as) ever claim to be LORD?

2.which One is Correct; Matthew 7:21 (KJV) or Matthew 7:22-23 (NAB 1970)
the simple part of the question is : Which One is Correct: Not every one, OR None of those? And the difficult part is : Why?

3.1+1+1 =1 or 1+1+1 Trinity? Therefore what is Trinity?

Related Questions:

1. Why is the Trinity not taught in thirty nine books of the Old Testament?
2.Is it not an important principle of faith?

3.Why didn't Noah, Abraham, Moses, David etc. preach that doctrine?

4.Why did they preach just the opposite (Deuteronomy 4:39; 6:4; 32:39. Exodus 20: 2-3. 1 Samuel 2:2. 1 Kings 8:60, Isaiah 42:8; 45:5-6)?

5.According to the Bible, are we not all children of God? (Matthew 5:9; 6:14, Luke 20:36; John 8:47, 1 John 5:18,19)

We will continue for the second episode of our big/little assignment lol

I just like to summarize to give some emphasize to this Thread which is more interesting and challenged idea.

4 Him:
why isnt there no historical record of this great feat?

Surah Al Qamar verses 54:1-2
1. The hour drew nigh and the moon was rent in twain. 2. And they behold a portent they turn away and say: Prolonged illusion.

Prophet Moham’mad invited the people’s attention to this event only with this object in view and asked them to mark it and be a witness to it. But the disbelievers described it as a magical illusion add persisted in their denial. For this stubbornness, they have been reproach in this surah.

If you ask the photo of the splitting of the Moon that take place in Makkah, the Arabian people are not fun of DIGITAL CAMERA at that time 1400 years ago. If you provide at that time it’s possible we have achievement of the result have you been asking for.
We read about the Miracle of Moses the splitting of the Ocean in the Redsea do we need a photo of that? when they cross into ocean to go in the other place.
We read the Miracle of Jesus when he give lives again to the dead. Do we need what the supplication he used to bring lives again? If so what is the supplication we need today?
Do we need to present the evidence each miracle on this Twenty Century? That has been taken place before or just relates and recorded it for the sake of everybody in the future reference?.

Can you give as example when you call him 100% god nature? Did he create any species or tree or something remarkable to be remember lol? Mybe this question you will ignore again and swallow without any proven fact/theory ?

imhotep:
@samba123

I just saw this ==> "Next to Moh@mmed's tomb, there is another empty tomb that M-uslims believe awaits Jesus. "

Taken from here ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophet_Mohammed#Death

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Your people in Medina are also waiting for Jesus' return from Heaven. Perhaps you can ask them how they know.

If you just base those wikipedia ideas mostly of the comment came from Christian author’s criticizing Islamic belief. And the footnote mostly are recently circulating in this twenty century with is hypocritical among themselves. We are used to it of the negative comment from the Christian author because of their biased story.

nossycheek:
And again, who witnessed the splitting of the moon?

The People of Makkah who witnessed that even when Prophet Moham'man invited them to believe.

May kelly:
@jennykadry

Revelation 12:7 (Whole Chapter)
Then there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (lucifer) and his angels.

then who is the winner can you probe it? did you witness the even? or just guessing by your own statement?