₦airaland Forum

Rexsul:
Plz i don't knw if i'm allowd 2 sit behind d Men Of Honour @ least 2 kip my spirit high

u r welcome.
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Cheer up and work harder towards it.

Rexsul:
my broda na me stil b dis o....bt i'm nt gonna gv up as long as i'm alive cos Pharmacist is wot i wanna bcom.

I advice you also resit for UTME while you plan for D.E.
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BTW, u can make it.

Taofiq129:
i cn c we ar in d same shoe...jes dat d story of nt getin pharm z nt d same....nd oh i am in chemistry nt biochem also!...so wich skul ar u?

Rexsul:
I've rily tried my best 2 get pharmacy bt was'nt successfl nd nw i'm currently studyn Biochemistry plz which University cn i use my result 2 gt pharmacy After graduatn through d.e? Tnx

Biochemistry and Chemistry degree is surely accepted for a degree in pharmacy.
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It's just d school that matter.






Rexsul, I remember you. The ABU pharm aspirant.

adeoladrg:
Of course brother.. Not only you, rebroadcast it to all ur classmates and senior colleagues.. The train is moving.

That I must surely do

adeoladrg:
Cool heading..

Yea,,,, very cool heading.

You are running Pharmanews, whose motto is to inform the public about pharmacy profession and so on? Why this?

In Pharmanews, we are not informing the public because it is not a link between the profession and the public. It is a professional paper to keep health professionals informed. That is why you do not see Pharmanews at the newsstands; it circulates among health professionals, primarily pharmacists, doctors, nurses, hospitals and the health institutions. Pharmanews started in 1979, and we thank God because we have published every month from 1979 without interruption. It is West Africa’s foremost health journal.

http://swankpharm.com/2014/11/27/even-a-pharmacist-may-not-be-able-to-identify-fake-medicine-sir-ifeanyi-atueyi-rxchatng-johesustrike/

Original Source: Nigerian Tribune

Many Nigerians living in the suburbs rely on patent medicine dealers. Will their health not be jeopardised by substandard drugs? How relevant are these group of people?

Talking about the patent medicine dealers, this is an aberration. They are found only in Nigeria and the group was created because of the shortage of pharmacists. Anybody who is above 18 and can read and write can be a patent medicine dealer. They are not trained.

What they are supposed to do is to sell packs of over-the-counter (OTC) medicines. They are supposed to know only the names and prices of OTC medicines, but not to count tablets or dispense medicines. Unfortunately, many patent medicine dealers do all they are not supposed to do. People patronising them also must know they are non-professionals.

Patent medicine dealers were just to fill a gap; once we have adequate number of pharmacists as it is the case in the advanced countries, all these will change.

What is your assessment of the health sector?

First, health is a personal responsibility. If you renege on that responsibility, you have nobody to blame. Each individual needs to endeavour to live a healthy life. If this is done, this over-dependence on government and other caregivers will reduce.

People cannot continue smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol, involving in illicit sex, eating junks and doing all sort of things and then want the healthcare providers to take responsibility for their health. It does not work that way. Individuals have to be responsible for their health.

The government’s responsibility to take care of the health of the citizens is somehow related to the prevailing economic situation. When there is poverty, it affects everything, including health.

So, government has the responsibility to provide the infrastructure and environment that will be conducive to health. It is not just consuming drugs; it is a total environment that will make people healthy. When talking about improvement, there is no area that does not require improvement, but government is trying with the available resources and human capacity.

Internal acrimony in the health sector, the competition in its rank and file, what is the solution?

One basic understanding which some people do not have is that when it comes to taking care of people’s health, it is a team work. This is fundamental and that is why in developed countries, they fare better.

But in Nigeria, many are concerned with their ego, forgetting that hospitals exist because of patients. Attention is drawn away from patients to individuals. Where there is rancour among the health team, there is no way good results will be possible. No single group can take care of people’s health. In advanced countries, they have realised that and they do not behave as we do.

Second, we encourage “bring others down” and that is part of ego. A major grouse of the medical doctor is that they see pharmacists as coming up in education, knowledge and practice. The impression they have is that pharmacists want to overtake them by bearing the title “doctor” and being addressed as “consultants”. But in the US today, all pharmacists are doctors. They are no more studying a bachelor’s degree in pharmacy in the USA.

So, hospitals are full of doctors whether you are a pharmacist or a medical doctor. This is the trend and we have to know what is happening in the world today. We cannot be going backward when the world is moving forward.

Pharmacists now go on to specialise in different aspects such as orthopaedics and even diseases such as diabetes or hypertension. So when they are working with medical experts, it is a wonderful match, since the pharmacist will support the doctor in discussing the therapy and everything to the benefit of the patient.

Knowledge is growing, nurses are advancing. Today, you have nurse practitioners that attend to patients and prescribe drugs because they have undergone training on diagnosis and treatment. Even though they are still limited in what they can do, you find them every useful in communities. They still refer some cases to specialists but the law allows them to attend to patients and prescribe.

All these misunderstandings should not be there if there is no selfishness. One is only a leader when there are followers. Who are you leading? If you do not have their cooperation, they will revolt. Health is a team work. Nature has made it so.

Cases of people getting sick or even dying as a result of negligence in the hands of doctors through wrong prescriptions abound but they are not usually well documented. Even a pharmacist that dispenses a wrong drug, nobody questions him. But abroad, the case is not so. We are walking blindly here, especially in health, and that is why there must be the malpractice insurance cover.

Sir Ifeanyi Ayueyi, a fellow of the Pharmaceutical Society of Nigeria and Managing Director, Pharmanews, a pharmaceutical publication, in this interview with SADE OGUNTOLA, explains why curtailing fake drug in circulation is difficult and how to solve the internal acrimony in the health sector, among other issues.

As a pharmacist of long standing, what areas of pharmacy practice would you say need to be changed to ensure better outcomes for the profession?

Change is constant, hence the need for improvement also in pharmacy practices. Take, for example, the area of drugs. Research is done on a daily basis and so older drugs are being discarded, just as new ones are coming in. Due to this, the professionals must be on their toes because things are changing; they must keep learning about medicines.

Emphasis must also be on changing the drug distribution network. It is a crucial factor. In fact, at the last Pharmaceutical Society of Nigeria conference, the need for this was discussed. The problem of fake drugs could be linked to how drugs are distributed in the country. Distribution of medicines is not in the hands of professionals and this has created a lot of problems.

In the university, there is a need to improve the quality and the level of education of trainee pharmacists so that, after their training, they will be useful to the community they are serving.

Are quality drugs accessible and affordable in Nigeria?

Talking about quality, there are some companies in Nigeria that the quality of what they produce is guaranteed anywhere in the world today. Four companies have been approved by the World Health Organisation; their laboratories can manufacture medicines that can be sold even in US and UK markets. So, in terms of quality, their medicines are guaranteed.

Many more companies are also producing quality drugs and are equally aspiring to be WHO-prequalified like others. So, in terms of drug quality, Nigeria is doing well.

In terms of affordability, due to prevailing economic conditions, drugs may not be affordable to everybody. This is why some governments are offering free health services and promoting national health insurance so that people could have access to the medicines even when they don’t have money.

But many people are complaining of being given generic drugs, which they believe are of lower quality than branded drugs?

Sometimes people think that a generic drug is inferior to the branded one. This is not true. Even drug companies that have WHO certification can produce generic products. When you say a product is generic, it means that it is given the standard official name rather than a brand name. The manufacturing process of the two is the same, but the packaging may be different.

However, this does not mean that you cannot have low quality generic medicines. But I can assure you that most of the substandard or fake generic products are imported mainly from India and China.

Moreover, fake or substandard medicines sometimes may be branded because their importers have asked that they should be produced that way. But NAFDAC is working very hard on checking this. Recently a drug faker was jailed for six months, though he had the option of a fine.

But the law was lenient on that drug faker?

Before, there was very light punishment for drug fakers. The law was weak and the prescribed punishment was very mild. NAFDAC is just reversing this so that people caught can be dealt with in a more deterrent way. If they had been doing that, I’m sure that people would have learnt their lessons. Indeed, the law itself was a big issue in curtailing fake and substandard drugs. So we are now having stricter laws and more persons will be persecuted and so people will dread going to jail.

Is it possible for consumers to be able to differentiate substandard medicine in the pharmacy?

Well, it is very difficult to know the difference between substandard, fake and good quality medicines. Even pharmacists and doctors themselves sometimes find it difficult differentiating one from the other. For consumers, the advice that is usually given is to always buy drugs from authorised distributors. By doing so, one is fairly confident of buying a good product.

adeoladrg:
Append your digital signature on the letter from PSN to NUC on the approval of Pharm.D. Pls rebroadcast!


www.swankpharm.com/2014/12/04/pharmacists-sign-the-letter-from-psn-to-nuc-to-approve-pharmd/

nice one.
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I saw a space for Undergraduate Pharmacist. Does it mean I can append my signature?

The fact that your school is either best or. Worst will only affect you by
0.00000001111112222444455558888666447%

So, its insignificant.








I know you didn't care to count that number. Lazy student.

2cato:
These people will always claim goods worth billions of naira was destroyed even though it is only okirika things they are selling in the market.

If say u knw wetin bizness b, u go know say okrika na money.

gbodimowo:
Sorry mate can't do that the machines are loaded by cartridges each cartridge has only one denominations in it

Since the machine is loaded by cartridges and each cartridges contain on denomination; is the machine that dull that it can't select a certain amount to withdraw from a particular catridge and another amount from the other cartridge at same withdrawal?

countsparrow:
500 naira is okay, but anything less, is a waste of resources...

I collect #200 they charge me #65...

What of withdrawing #10,200 where the #200 serves your transport fair

eleojo23:
The good side is that it will reduce this problem of 'no change' that has always arisen when one withdraws 1000 naira notes and intends to buy things that cost lower denominations.

Most times you will just have to buy something you don't need at the moment ( recharge card for instance) just to get change.

I was broke yesterday and needed to withdraw but, felt so reluctant to withdraw then because, the ATM I was close to pays in #1000s and having a #1000s most times is like having nothing.

saxywale:
Nigerian journalists... now they are referring to drug retailers or what we popularly call chemist as pharmacist....educated illiterates.

E tire me o bro. The Journalist ma na O.L.O.D.O

delishpot:
Lol. My sister actually told me about it. Then I remembrred how one woman went for DNA test and till the end believed that the child she had was hers. My sister said she gives the women some meds which causes their tummies to swell as is the case with pregnancy. She (Grandma) is in colabo with a nurse who does scan and tell the women baby is fine. Grand ma then tops the meds for big bely and sends the women home warning them not to go somewhere else( you know how women love pikin reach they just do
as told so as not to spoil the meds grandma says can be spoilt by oyinbo medicines) she gives them time for visitations. Then when it is almost time for baby to be born, only God knows how mama does it( gets new babies) she calls her due patient to come for checkup. Then after check she will say the woman is on labour. She will then give meds to cause uterine contractions( labour pain) the unsuspecting woman will think she is in labour and then she will pass out( due to meds she was given cos grandma knows no baby will ever come out and she doesnt want the mothers to know this) when they wake up, she will say the mom was lucky o, she nearly died o but congrats here is baby. If mama couldnt find any baby she will say it was a still birth.
All those women carrying pregnancies for 11,12,13 months and later give birth to babies should be checked. Most times it happens cos their cheating deceptive midwives could not get newborns for the mission early, so they keep decieving the women that dontvworry, labour will start soon. Baby is fine, dont govto oyinbo doctors o, they will tell you there is no baby o not all sickbess is cured in oyinbos way o.

Hmmmmm

heykims:
I didn't refer d quack as a pharmacist, I only cited another example to express the sorry state of the health sector in Nigeria..
Well u could be of help if u lecture me about consultant pharmacists in Nigeria as at this moment nd d hospitals/schools that confer the honour. Ignorance sha...

Yes, ignorance is a disease if not you woulD have known that a Community Pharmacist is a consultant Pharmacist.

Bukkiminat:
HAPPY NEW MONTH PHARMACISTS

MERRY


XMAS

AND


HAPPY

NEW YEAR

IN

ADVANCE

ONE LOVE MA PPLE
#CHEERS

TEAM #pharmacy o ni baje,o baje ti!

Same to you ooo

armadeo:
Educate us.

Educate you? I thought you were the only one that understood Doctor of Pharmacy, Doctor of Physio. etc?





Take time to read and unde

heykims:
In my Fatherland, anything goes. Even asides these seeming illiterate quacks, u see certified pharmacists in famous pharmacy shops offering consultations to 'patients'. They re even bold enough to openly dedicate a room inscribed as "consultation room" in their stores despite d fact that it is illegitimate.
Yet, no one cares to challenge or prosecute them coz we all know dt we re in a country where everything goes..

Did you notice that it was the woman that termed him a Pharmacist?
When he was asked if he was a Medical doctor, did you notice his reply?




Well, I guess you should make your research on consultant Pharmacist.

Taofiq129:
i jes prefer info from anyone in d system.... Dis bronchure dis days u knw,nt too detailed....anyways tnks....

Well, my school don't do direct entry.

Bukkiminat:
Obtaining a B.pharm degree,does it gives u a license to practice pharm in Nigeria?
Doctor of pharmacy and Master of Pharmacy,do they have the same right in Nigeria?

N does the two above have upper right than B.pharm in Nigeria?

Before u can practice in other countries like USA,Canada etc...what qualification must you obtain?
lastly,how many years does it take to obtain pharm.D in Nigeria and other Countries?


Thhanks

Tag;Drered
adeoladrg
samgreguc
sisiafrika
omolodmilkman

You've been answered.

Taofiq129:
same as ma gues...tnks man...oh nd wich skuls acept such degrees 4 pharm..?..i gues ui shud?

Am sure UNIPORT don't accept D.E in all ramification.... Reference the JAMB brochure for the possible schools and their terms.

Taofiq129:
nw i dnt get u...

Sorry bro, wrong message......



To your question,,,,, courses like Chemistry, Biochem etc,,, reference the brochure for more details.

Oduduwaboy:
can you recognise a sarcasm when you see one? i don't think so. cheers anyway.

Sarcasm?




Have you been enlightened?

Oduduwaboy:
All just to be called 'Doctor '? You are tired of being called 'pharm '? What value will this application when granted add to our health delivery system ? If we didn't need PharmD in the past 100years , do you think we need it now ? Or is it just about copying America or a continuation of the supremacy war with the real medical doctors ?

Chisos! I think the "opposition" is behind this.

Taofiq129:
chai lyk say dis questn dy invisible.....oya peepz ansa abeg..talk wetin u sabi 4 dis mata!

Its good u didn't bank on the fact that I misplaced phrase for claUse.

nas00:
Hullo dear.

With your statement, you gave yourself away as an ignoramus.

Even a brain-damaged 5 year old will be able to explain to you why a certain JOHESU strike cannot prevent medical doctors from seeing their patients. While the drawbacks of the strike may include poor patient record keeping, supporting investigations not available within hospitals and hospital dispensaries not open, doctors SURELY see their patients and have been doing so since JOHESU embarked on strike (because patients can yet complete their investigations and buy their prescribed medications at private centres outside the hospitals).

Come to think of it, if I were a doctor, I really don't need a case note to LISTEN to my patient or THINK of how best to treat my patient. All I need is a pair of ears, a functional brain and a knowledge + skill+ experience base to draw from. A nurse won't do that for me, neither would a cleaner, pharmacist, lab technologist or hospital administrator do that for me.

The division of labour effect may be lost, but you never make statements out of pure assumption. Go to UCH, for instance, during this JOHESU strike and do some fact-finding to correct your erroneous impression. Patients are being attended to.

Memory verse for you: Doctors are the ones, and ONLY ones at that, who can attend to the basic needs of patients even when all allied health workers withdraw their services.

This Truth is self-evident and ordinary common sense should have helped you realize it.

Cheers!

hmmm! Have u heard of the clause Patient history?

heykims:
Abi u mean drugs salesmen. Instead of them to focus on drug production nd formulations, d core of their profession, they re busy chasing to achieve consultant salesmen in hospitals.
Misplaced priority....

whether u call us drugsalesmen or not, we are definitely a drugsalemen because it's one aspect of Pharmacy. So, don't shout aloud your pitch cos, ur music will be bad.

drered:
Case note: Man With Nausea?

JK is an 88-year-old man picking up his monthly prescriptions at your pharmacy with the assistance of his daughter. JK's daughter asks you to make a recommendation for an over-the-counter treatment for nausea for her father.

She explains that JK has been complaining of nausea for the last several months and has lost 8 pounds (currently weighs 134 pounds) due to his recent lack of appetite. Upon review of JK's profile, you find that he is currently receiving the following prescription medications from your pharmacy: carvedilol 6.25 mg BID; lisinopril 10 mg QD; furosemide 20 mg QD; KCl 20 mEq QD; tamsulosin 0.4 mg QD; donepezil 23 mg QD; and citalopram 20 mg QD.

Upon further discussion with JK and his daughter, you verify that JK was diagnosed with heart failure 12 years earlier and has a history of benign prostatic hyperplasia, which is currently well controlled with tamsulosin. JK has been taking citalopram for approximately 4 years, which was initiated shortly after the passing of his wife. According to your records, JK was started on donepezil 3 months prior. JK's daughter explained that he was having difficulty remembering the names of his extended family members and the medication was initiated at the recommendation of his primary care physician. In addition to the list above, JK is currently taking a senior multivitamin daily and fills all of his medications at your pharmacy. JK's daughter also reports that he has an appointment scheduled with his cardiologist next week. JK has had several bouts of syncope lately and his daughter, who is a nurse's aide, noted that his heart rate varies between 40 and 55 beats per minute.

Based on the above information, what recommendations would you have for JK and his daughter?

Sheblayze , help pls.

oforkanji:
#Faint

no fear. I tink yr1 and 2 dnt wear it.