₦airaland Forum

Dlonra:
West Africa has no City . Seriously how did Kano, Lomé, Kumasi, Benin and the likes qualify as Cities

Kano our third tier city is more developed than mombasa your second slum tier city...

It even has more flyovers than any counties in kenya outside nairobi ....
It's has has better roads that are in good conditions compared to your broken down road in Mombasa riddle with mega potholes.

Dlonra:
The GDP value is entirely generated by the East African work force and that's all that really matters. Nigeria is living a big lie with 90% of its economy being oil based benefiting nobody but a selected few. It's even embarrassing that a Country like south Africa with a lower GDP has 20 times better living standards than Nigeria. A global poverty capital is nothing to be proud of.

Speaking of poverty. .Kenya has 45m poor people making about 94% of her population. ..what do you have to say about. .atleast poverty has started dropping tremendousl g here..what about kenya. ?

theenchanter:
they're not riding on d cable car to watch cattles.... They're riding it to go from one place to another....... Its a transport system from d base of d mountain to d top.

Lol he knows..he was just trying to drop a trolling line...

gallivant:
Are those things running on generators? Who in their right mind will fly to Nigeria to watch cattle from a cable car running on generators? Leave the tourism to the masters and drill for oil.

Every one in is right mind will hop on the next plane to come take a ride on Africa's longest cable car and get a beautiful view of our mountain-eous landscape with amazing greenery laced with mother nature beauty..maybe that's why get get more visitors than the Zooland of EA and even generate more revenue their visits...

And NO they don't run on generator the host community has a power plant which the cable car taps into...

Enjoy it once again cos they way I am seeing you it's seems you like it..lol

Kazikazi:
Kiberans,kiberan,kiberans..

Helloooo

Pliz respond to these engineering talk
Hahahaha hahahaha

Lol they can't respond..that's why they been screeching in pain since yesternight...

That is the longest cable car in Africa.

chrisooblog:
after all this noise the bottom line is we still make more money from tourism than you FACT!

Lol very true..if they can't have that simple infastructure how will they expect to get more visitors and generate more revenue from tourism than us..

chrisooblog:
how is it our fault that you could only afford in ta cheap hotel? kiberan learn to make money so you won't have to be penny-pinching. This advice goes to the rest of your countrymen too

He is just frustrated that Kenya can't compete with Nigeria on any front...who in his right sense will think Kenya can compete with Nigeria..

kikuyu2:
Ohh,Naij! This is THE Obodu you've been posting for 4 years-HAHAHA!? Anyway IIRC I did say your hospitality standard,your infrastructure, the level of your training eg, front office, house keeping, cuisine etc, etc is still miles from our own GLOBAL standard.
IN THE NAME OF CHUKWU AND OSHUN NEVER POST THESE DULL OBODU PIX AGAIN.

Lol I am so posting it again...show us something like this if your tourism country has what it takes to lift a finger against our most especially when critical infastructure for tourism like this is absolutely non existent in your zoo..

kikuyu2:
Naij has jokes! How exacting does a state establish an airline? Who ARE THE major shareholder? WHAT is the equity structure? WHAT is the finance structure and critically in this coronadrama era has the repayment issue been looked at?
THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS I LAUGH THAT THIS IS THE BRAINCHILD OF AN EX BANKER, GOV UDOM EMMANUEL!

[url][/https://m.guardian.ng/opinion/the-dark-side-o]

This is a flying Ajaokuta!? I'll bet the farm it'll land in flames and tears in max 5 years! The good thing is there are wise Naijjans as the writer recognises the potential of the oil palm biz I'VE touched on severally.




Maybe he's lurked here and agreed with my Malaysia palm oil comparison? Anyway this gov is another Yemi Kale class comedian.
Naijjans, stop wanking over this project.

Lol.its seems this is becoming a new thing from you guys ..once you can't compete with us you go online to fish out critics article..hell yeah you would see numerous of those online...I mean we are a democratic nation..freedom of speech and expression exist...

Ignoring the rest of your drivel I want you to get the bottom line...Ibom Air started off with just two fleets and in a matter of months (about 6 months) the airline blossomed with profit and was able to add another fleet to the existing once . Fastword four month later the profit making,zero indebted Airline got an extra fleet making the airline an owner of four fleet....KQ needs to come and learn a thing or two from ibom Air...I mean you lack every moral right to lecture me on airline matter when your 3 aircraft airline last made profit 12 years ago .it's should be the other way round..let's us teach you the hidden misery behind building a successful globally recognised,profit making Airline...
Enjoy ibom.Air..the pride of Africa

rvp2018:
[s]Read this.....review. Lipstick on a pig. Try to understand basic of tourism first.

We drove from Calabar to Ubudu. That ride was long but pretty interesting nontheless! Once you enter Obudu you will be enchanted by its majestic view! But the Resort/hotel is quite expensive and it really is not worth it! Food was OK but really overpriced! Exhausted and couldn't wait to rest, we ignored the hefty price and booked sort of a family room. But my dream of an early rest and a peaceful sleep was shattered the moment i lay down on my bed - it smelled of URINE! yes URINE! We called the reception/housekeeping but there was no one answering so I had to call the cell number of the person in charge of housekeeping and he informed me he was already off! He told me he will inform the hotel himself ... I waited 30 minutes and no one came... So i finally had to g out of the cottage (in a cold Ubudu evening) walked towards the restaurant to inform someone! FInally after perhaps more than an hour of waiting ... someone came to change the sheets but it was still smelly so we requested to be moved somewhere else. To make matters worst, they did not have any electricity and we had to move our things in the dark using my cellphone light! What a disappointing trip!

Beautiful location, terrible hotel
The location is beautiful but the access is difficult. The hotel is in a shameful state of disrepair. The food is expensive and very bad. Though there is a cattle ranch in the area there is no fresh milk for breakfast and the meat served in the restaurant is hard and dry. We asked for a barbecue and after waiting for ages we were served burnt pieces of goat. The service is so unbelievably bad that they could not bother to put soap and toilet paper in the restaurant toilets. But they know how to charge a hefty price!

Spare yourself the trouble and the money and travel to Cameroon or to East or South Africa.[/s]

Rvp I asked y'all to show somethings close to what you saw in my pics and you went ahead to bring an article from a bitter criticize-r like you....

Show me something like this not some over imagined story made to garner traffic...once again show me something like this in east africa and you will never,ever see me here..I want to be convinced that east Africa is not a backwater now is your opportunity.

gallivant:
Lol

What is this?

Don't you know what this is? Oh I forgot.simple things like this brings out the raw timidity in Kenyans..it's not your fault bro, but the country you call your home "Kenya"

Show me something like that in Kenya and today would be the last you will ever hear from me hear...

Jasparrow1:
Obudu mountain resorts, Calabar

Nothing of this nature exist in East Africa (excluding TZ)...

I want Yall to show me something like this in east africa..

Driving through average neighbourhood in Lagos where average lagosians live...To me it's looks 100% better than Eastleigh..

This is Lagos mainland..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3PvTNpgKKU

gallivant:
Yes or No?

Yes or No what..

rvp2018:
We have made profit before for many years- and we will soon make profit. So we understand why we want to keep KQ flying. Our gov alone - travel budget is big enough - to finance an airline. So why would we give all that money to foreign airlines.

When will you make profit..cos apparently I don't seem to seeing any light at the end of the tunnel....

Shut that venture down and leave the business for the private sectors to run...

rvp2018:
KQ is critical national asset. We are not Ghana backwater or Nigeria to allow it to die. We have built our horticulture and flower sector on the back on it.

Airline industry is like that. There was time when KQ was winning awards left right and center. That time Ethiopia airline was making huge losses.

That time was until 2012. KQ went down. Ethiopia airline came up. KQ by now would be bigger than ET Airlines.

Sorry but where is Ghana Airways again? So we can listen to you.

You should reminisce on the good ol' days..it's better than been proud of having a venture you can't even remember the last time it made profit...

rvp2018:
It's none of our problems - because if you bring your poverty-stricken a.sre to Nairobi - we will ship it back to Nigeria - like we have done. We use to spend nearly 10m dollars annually to fly them back - now we send them first to prison. Maybe South Africa and others who have welcomed your social menace should worry.

You want to send Nigerians away from Karen..they you better be ready as hell to watch your dying real estate sector crumbled finally with more job loss in your labour market since our companies helps reduce your unemployment rate..

rvp2018:
Out of 200m nigerians - how many are under his payroll? You have allowed somebody to mint money selling SALT, SUGAR, CEMENT AND MAIZE FLOUR - and as we speak 10 nigerians are entering poverty every minute - and figure for extreme poverty is 100M - and for just normal poverty 150m!!

I mean by the time you're overtaking India to become the world poverty capital - something is clearly very wrong.

You are crying in pain..as we speak the table have turned 6 Nigerians are lifted out of poverty...we are down to 82.9m from 100m as of 2019...Kenya on the other hand has 45m poor souls..expect to see that figure Ballon even more..

Carmit:
seeing some very weird info about the price of basic Nigeriancommodities here.
LMAO!

Lol rvp says milk,sugar,salt is very expensive Nigeria...

I wonder were he gets his news from..or what serves as his inspiration to lie

theenchanter:
Only if the kenyans know that majority of d Nigerians kicking their arse here are in their 20s.

One mumu up there has a 10yr old daughter and a younger son..... I wonder what his daughter will feel like if she sees what her dad is posting on the internet through his gadget.

Enjoy kids.... Don't be a dumbo like ur dad.

The bolded is very true...almost all Nigerian here I am sure is not up to 28..max 30
Kikuyu,rvp, tayermshri , gallivant are too old to be discussing and recieving constant Insult from people they can father

rvp2018:
I think you've earned the world corruption tag - just like you were recently crowned the poverty capital. We are no competition. These are well-deserved honors and we salute you.

Me ya is more corrupt than Nigeria..check the index..

Kenya is poorer than Nigeria with 45m poor scumbags..fact.

rvp2018:
KQ was privatized in 1995 - GoK owned only 25% - and recently when it got into trouble - gov has been bailing it out and converting the debt into Equity - now GoK owns about half of KQ. Banks and lenders own 38%.

We don't want to become Nigeria or Ghana where we depend on foreign airlines to fly.

We depend also Our private airlines and state owned airlines....
America does not have a national carrier either but has numerous private American Airlines running her space....


Tell me when a loss making , heavily indebted airline is something to be proud of or copied by any african country...

rvp2018:
Until we see Ghana Airways flying - shut up. Every country has an airport and foreign airlines. Few countries can hack what Kenya has done. Our Airline has never gone down...since inception. A rarity in the most brutal of business. We cannot allow it to go down because we have built an industry around it and well - We are THE PRIDE OF AFRICA.

You can't shut anybody up becos you have one dying loss making airline...

KQ as of today is nothing to be proud of..I wonder where your source of pride stems from...

rvp2018:
Where is Ghana Airline? South Africa Airways and Ethiopia Airlines were the only ones who could light a candle to us. Now South Africa is down out.

KQ is still flying and we are working on making it stronger by doing what Ethiopians and Arab Airlines are doing - we are going to heavily capitalize the Airline by giving it the Airports and many assets.

While you keep dreaming in what you will do and what you will not use that opportunity to enjoy ibom Air....A state owned airline established in less than a year and already has 4 fleets..

vaxx:
Will Kenya's on this forum shut up their crap?

Every thing about your country is dysfunctional even your jubilee house( the ruling party ) seems not to be doing fine at the moment .


As at today , your airways industry has join the loss making venture ...why don't you form a confederation with Rwanda since that look like the only progressive country in east Africa.

Lol stupid, indebted,loss making KQ....

Kenyans are bereft of Pride...KQ is a shame..

rvp2018:
Even with budget deficit of 50%; you still insist on heckling? Nigeria's corruption is world-class - we are babies. You've stashed how much money in foreign banks? Your political class are not only stealing budget - but also stealing oil revenues.

You love projecting your failures on others...
More than 60% of your budget is stolen annually..true or false? Wonder no more why we fund more infastructures than than you with your supposedly better budget..

You are ranked more in the corruption index than Nigeria..true or false..

Now see what our budget did for us at its lowest..I mean when we were in deep recession..

rvp2018:
And here is how Dangote got rich by making Nigerians poorer...and you're very proud of him.One billionaired.140 million poor people with 100M extremely poor

9 A leaked US Embassy cable on Dangote dated March 7, 2007 reported that “Dangote is counted
among President Obasanjo’s inner circle of business advisers” and that it “is no
coincidence that many products on Nigeria’s import ban list are items in which Dangote
has major interests.” The cable further stated that Dangote “has had success blocking
trade and investment that might compete with his enterprises.”50 As would be seen in the next section, Obasanjo also aided the Dangote Group by closing down the cement
factory of one of his competitors: Ibeto Cement.
Another controversial waiver granted by the Obasanjo administration was the $3 billion
import duty waiver to Western Metal Products Company Limited (WEMPCO) Nigeria
Limited, a Chinese company for the establishment of a $250 million cold rolled steel
plant in the country. The Federal Ministry of Finance have tried to address part of the
outrage that this transaction caused by clarifying that “the duty concessions and
incentives should comprise five percent duty rate across the board on all raw materials
for two years, zero percent duty rate and VAT exemptions on all plants and machinery.”
Despite this, it remains unclear where the $3 billion dollars came from. This raises
questions about possible abuse of such a waiver through the importation of unrelated
items under the cover of such waivers.51 It is important to note that this waiver, which
has been described as a “non transparent business transaction”, was granted in an
industry where Nigerian enterprises are active.5

But Kenya has not created any billionaire and she still has 45m poor scumbags which apparently makes 94% of your population
.

rvp2018:
And here is how Obasanjo created Dangote

A major beneficiary of the Obasanjo tax and duty waiver illegalities is the billionaire
businessman, Aliko Dangote and his Dangote Group of Companies. A Dangote
company report published in 2006 showed that at that time, the company controlled 81
percent of the Nigerian sugar market, 40 percent of the cement market, 33 percent of the
flour market, 54 percent of the pasta market and 72 percent of the salt market. “The
latest figure indicates that the Dangote Group still maintains the first position in each of
these commodities; now controlling about 93 per cent of the sugar market, 86 per cent
of cement, 73 per cent of flour, 74 per cent of pasta and 89 per cent of salt.”44 It was
therefore not surprising that in 2011, Dangote was listed as the richest man in Africa by
Forbes magazine. 45 The entwinement of political patronage and import duty waivers in
Nigeria is perhaps best brought out by this case. During the two presidential elections
that Obasanjo contested (1999 and 2003), Dangote donated N100 million and N250
million respectively to his campaign. Aside from the above, he also donated N211.6
million towards the construction of Obasanjo’s Presidential Library and cement worth
N3 billion towards the construction of the head office of the Obasanjo’s ruling Peoples
Democratic Party (PDP) all during Obasanjo’s tenure as President.46 Based on the
above, it was therefore not surprising that some of the companies in the Dangote Group
.

Blah,blah,blah you are making noise
... perphap you should tell us how obsanjo also made our individual billionaires..

rvp2018:
You're as always very obtuse. Nigeria has 30-50 basic items including sugar that are banned from being imported. We know Nigeria is not self-sufficent in sugar. So basically Abuja bans something - and they issue import waivers to their financiers or friends. And those people get captive market of 200m to sell basic commodities like Sugar at any price.

Blah,blah blah....bus sugar refinery which apparently is the largest ever on mama Africa will make us sufficient...

Now tell me why your supposedly $100bn which is close to our $200bn economy has not produce quarter the billionaires that we have....
That is something you should learn from Nigeria...

rvp2018:
Yet another billionaire selling Sugar!! Sugar! Cement! Those are the most useless product out there in the world market.

There is only one way to make tonnes of money in this world - create a monopoly and set the prices - make a super-profit.

In the modern world - with an open liberalized economy - it impossible to make money from sugar or cement - because everyone can buy it cheaply from high seas and sell it cheaply - competition will take all the margins.

So the only way you become a billionaire in says the US is to create a new unique product - possibly have it patented - and make money as a monopoly - before everyone start making it and drives the margins down.

But it's only in closed 3rd world economy like Nigeria that people make money from selling cement and sugar by making sure they have a monopoly - and forcing everyone to pay a lot for shitty products - and sending MILLIONS TO POVERTY.

I am not about to join you in your daily emotional cries driven by absolute bitterness and envy..that useless product(sugar and cement) is what made Dangote what he is today...and NO there is no sugar monopoly in Nigeria....I am right here waiting for that product Kenya has produced and patented..don't even mention safaricom..
Now the bottom line is this ..why has your supposedly$100bn economy (which according is close to ours ) not produce quarter the size of our billionaires which are soaring in various sectors from telecommunications to industry,you name it? WHY!WHY!! WHY!!!..

YOU WANT TO SEE POVERTY THEN DELVE A LITTLE INTO YOUR POVERTY EMPIRE WITH 45M POOR IDIOTS MAKING 94% OF YOYR POPS..

Kazikazi:
But u use cheap packaging!

This is how we package our milk...and they are all sold for less than a dollar

rvp2018:
If we wanted to have Dangote we would have them. All we need is for Federal gov in Abuja to ban imports of key items - sugar, cement, rice -except for a few selected traders - and to also make it impossible for any trader to buy serious forex. We would require them to write a long love letter to explain why they need to import sugar - and why they need to buy dollars.

And then we would have a selected few Northern Nigeria oligarch friend of ours - given the import licenses and dollars - as we reject other applications

After he has had monopoly importing for like 5yrs - he would have enough capital to build factories.

After he is done with building factories - we would turn around and now completely ban imports - because look Nigeria(Dangote) is now self-sufficient.

We use to do that until 1992 when we LIBERALIZED our economy. It now nearly impossible to have a Dangote - because everyone is free to import or export or to buy as much forex as they want - and everyone is getting richer - instead of 30 billionaires - and 100M extremely poor Nigerians

You have the richest man in Africa and largest number of poor people in the WORLD.

That irony is lost on you.

In the modern world - people are becoming billionaires by creating NEW products - not selling Sugar or Cement LIKE DANGOTE. When Dangote meet Bill Gates or Jeff Bezo - how many patents would Dangote have filled _ ZERO every year. It only in Nigeria where a cement or sugar businessman is making billions.

Only in Zoo - do you have 30 list of protected items - that a few have been given the monopoly to supply to 200m nigerias.

Instead of having 10,000 Nigerians importing sugar - You have Dangote doing that. Instead of 10,000 Nigerians importing cement - you had Dangote and few of Northerners doing that.

Sorry I couldn't finalize my read in your wall of emotional cries...
You can never produce Dangote like personalities..yeah that's why the richest in Kenya which apparently is an Indian will be about the 20th richest man if he were to be in Nigeria..that says alot about your tiny economy and automatically put you in your league which is among your fellow eastern Africa backwaters...

There are many Dangote's in Nigeria doing great things... Another richest man "Abudul Samad rabiu" is building Africa's largest sugar refinery in port Harcourt singlehandedly and this man should be like the tenth richest in our modern society...now what has Kenya individual achieved or even the govt..can't your govt take us on such feat if your underachievers population is too poor to do such? Or is it becos your economy is still tender and poor to produce such individuals or govt fund to go on such grandiose project?...tell me which is it?


You want to see poverty then look no further. 45m Kenyans are very poor making about 94% of your pop...we are above your zoo country on all front..arguing from now till tomorrow won't change that singular fact which is a reality..