₦airaland Forum

rvp2018:
Private sector is profit driven. They are not going to build low end housing units that are affordable - but are market driven - because they borrow money from banks - and have to repay loans - and make profit.

What kenya is doing is simple - de-risking the private sector.

Public sector or gov will NOT BUILD ANY HOUSE.

Kenya gov is de-risking the private sector that want to involve themsleves in AFFORDABLE housing - not build luxury units.

What kenya gov will do is to provide free land (30% of cost of unit is land) because gov has lots of land - and secondly it also going to allow zero rated building materials and zero taxes on profit (that is another 30% down) - lastly the gov is going to build horizontal infrastructure within housing estates (roads, water pipes, sewage, etc) - another huge cost cut.

That drastically cut the cost of housing for those building affordable units....and they can deliver a two bedroom for 20K usd.

That fixes SUPPLY SIDE.

Then we move DEMAND side...effective demand. How do we get poor people driving trotos or driving okada to afford 20K usd unit.

Simple - like you have done for your National Health Insurance - we have similar housing levy - that provide them with deposit - say 2,000K usd - sort of IMPOSED COMPLUSORY SAVINGS for their housing need.

Then give them 15-20yrs mortgage - that should be equivalent to the rent they pay now as okada rider renting a house.

These people pay maybe 50-80USD for slumscrapper unit. Now they will pay the same - and it will be mortagage - not rent.

Now the developer build these cheap houses - the gov uses the housing levy and commercial banks to issue loans - and where loans are not affordable - the kenya mortgage refinancing will TOP UP.

This model that is already working - we just need to scale it.

We heard this four years back and the years before yet nothing. You had the knowledge so what’s stopped you from harnessing. I expected by now you should have erected those structures.next year will make it 5 years y’all were screaming “by 2023 we will have 500k affordable housing units” almost 5 years now and we haven’t seen a concrete block.

obaaderemi:
Oh Yes!
Now I remember the Nairobiwalker alias Kiberawalker. He should be dead by now. There's no way he would be alive and stay away from nairaland. Guy had like 5 monikers then. Like kikuyuman and RIP2008 now.

Tylan was your boy, but he was not as stvpid as the she.male. At least it was tylan who first criticized Kenya about the starving turkanas.

Yeah you are right about the tylaan part. He wasn’t as stupid as she.male. I remember how he openly and vehemently criticized turkana while rvp and the likes were trying to talk him away from doing it. You could tell it’s came from a place of pain. He was unhappy seeing the conditions of his fellow country up north.

Darkseidxx:
Doesn't change the fact that her pussy will taste good

It will taste good for men that are financially capable to handle her not broke ugly agbero like you.her past is better than your future and she is just 16,old man like you should be looking for how to better your life than actively sexual using women’s randomly on line.this is 2022 aim higher and better for your life.

Darkseidxx:
She dn ripe
Na to chook preek for her mouth

Even this small girl.what is she? Like 16.
This could be your sister,daughter you fool.

Darkseidxx:
Iffa handle your sweet yansh

Stupid boy

68816419:
Stop deceiving your self, here are the reasons why Nairobi will never be a developed city

I have been telling him this for a while

obaaderemi:
Where is that tylaan kid by the way. He used to sleep and wake up on nairaland. I hope he is not the same as she.male.

No he is not.he used to be my hand rag back in the day just as sh*male is now and how Nairobiwalker was to you. You tormented tgat idiot that year

rvp2018:
The zoo patronizing Kenya Really Nigga. Zoogeria can NEVER EVER tell us anything. I rather listen to a South African.

Kenya can’t equally tell us shiiit. SA and maybe the magrebs,but definitely not Kenya.stop thinking your good for nothing zoo is relevant enough to teach us a thing.I am even better off lending my ears to Namibia,Mauritius and the likes but definitely not your backwater zoo that is with massive infrastructural deficit. You must be mad to think you can ever,ever lecture us in your life.my show has been an eye opener.

rvp2018:
Bla bla de bla. As always please keep it pictures and videos. You're obsessed with Nairobi because it better than anything in Nigeria.

Like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP_-IuyK9SE

My words must be hitting you hard cos you know it’s wicked facts.

rvp2018:
Deal with your Buhari first before you demand action. Are you now a Kenyan?
There has been action - lots of action - but not as fast as would have been ideally.

The affordable housing model is tested - it's just the execution that has been as fast.

Chinese developer were willing to put up 750,000 units - and all gov provide them is free land, zero taxes on inputs and on profit - gov to also build roads and all horizontal infrastructure.

That will make those units very cheap - and then Kenya Mortagage Refinancing - would issue loans.

The biggest failure was inability to get Housing Levy to pass in parliament and court.

Once this is done - Kenya can build a million housing units - and Joburg will look like a child to Nairobi.

All I keep hearing is promises,future tense,we will,Chinese will,Kenyatta will for the recent years. I still remember how you,jonrad,Tylaan ,stevoh18,yobeezy made this same exact noise with thesame exact lines 5 years ago.Fastforward now and pictures are still failing,you are left with empty words from 4 years back in 2022. Aren’t you ashamed of yourself? Stfu and rest.

rvp2018:
FACTS are stubborn things.
Slum occupy only 5 percent of built up area. Yes it houses millions - coz of their density.
Nairobi is actually a deceptively developed city - you will not see those slums - maybe Kibera is one that is very visible from Langata.
Nairobi has three if not five business districts.
Nairobi middle and upper class residence is more than half the city. The other half - Eastland - half of it also very decent.
Slums and slumscrapper occupy very small land.
The problem is contained and easy to solve.

No you lie,everywhere outside your 3cbd is a slum or rather a demeaning unimpressive settlement and this is prevalent across your country.

Let’s just say Nairobi extremely numerous (becos everywhere you turn to is a slum) occupy 5 percent,then the decent areas are like 1%(remember 85% of ur urban populace lives in what is regarded as a slum).the rest is forest that has t been deforested.so that noise on 5% is dead on arrival. The slum will keep ballooning into the forest as more rural-urban migration happens. So I predict 12% in the coming decade.

rvp2018:
Our slums appeared in late 80s and early 1990s. The solution is simple. Ruto who is running for president this year has promised to eliminate all.

Slum arose because kenya gov got out of social affordable housing.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-01-12-ruto-ill-do-away-with-slums-if-elected-president/
“We will employ 400,000 youths to take part in the construction of the new units as we plan to move the people of Nairobi from the slums to the modern houses which will have enough water and a proper sewage system.”

We don’t indulge in cheap political promises,we want visible action not carrot talk.

rvp2018:
You're the next to go bonkers after Just30 madman. The signs are there.

Your sgr is a loss making joke since inception ,true or false?

Jamestown123:
Kenya railway made 1.3b shillings last year.

@rvp 1.3b ksh is roughly 1.3usd. You are a bloody joke. Log off already.your sgr have been running into losses since inception just like KQ.

68816419:
Arguably the most advanced city in the whole of Africa when it comes to Infrastructures
Eko atlantic 2022 update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf47C8iunnM

No city in Africa,I repeat no city in Africa comes close to this in beauty,infrastructure and the list goes on. Just look at those beautiful canal,and the water goshh!!!!!! So fvcking beautiful.

68816419:
Lagos Light rail system
1. Blue line Metro Train( in stock ),15 four-car BMU CNR Dalian for Blue Line, the Blue Line will run 27.5 km from Marina to Okokomaiko , with 13 stations and an end-to-end journey time of 35 minutes,1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) Standard Gauge
2. Redline Metro Train -37 km track rail with 11 stations, new-two-sets-10-car-intra-city-metropolitan-trains-for-red-line-rail-project
-37 km track rail Standard Gauge

Amazingly beautiful.
Marvellously,Marvellous.

Rvp let me know when your zoo ever gets to this level.we lead you follow.

rvp2018:
The raw anger - and we just go started. Construction to start this year. Nairobi might become the World Most Dynamic City.

Lol nothing in Kenya can make me angry,and most certainly not a media joke which is still in render just like northland city of Kenyatta and the machakos units noise from 3 years back.

rvp2018:
I think we are beyond impressing you - you've basically dug every slum in Kenya to try validate your slumpolis.
Polite reminder that it's complete .
And that 8 - now 9 towers of River Estate are coming up very fast.
And many more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOKbv-X8aq0

What exactly complete and what is rivers estate?

And yes you didn’t exactly tell me what should get me impressed about that video.

gallivant:
Toilets, when will Nigeria get there? Forget train speed!!

https://alexis.lindaikejisblog.com/photos/shares/5f6e4435e8d87.png

Who are this butt nak.Ed men you keep posting you bloody pervert.

rvp2018:
Nairobi Railway city - regeneration of Nairobi city get UK funding of design - Kenya gov to fund the construction that start this year at 250M dollars

https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/business/uk-firm-set-design-246-6m-railways-city-in-kenya-3686766

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=935Y-PMNlQ8

https://cdn.standardmedia.co.ke/images/tuesday/mhetolixu6s4wjszsrs85f293414cc3e9.jpg


''The construction of this project will be fully financed by the Kenyan government. UK's firms KPMG and Atkins Global are only handling the research and design work,'' Ford said in a press interview.

Yesterday, Atkins Global presented a preliminary design for the multi-model urban development project to be referred to as the Nairobi Railway City.

“UK firm Atkins Global has been appointed to design Nairobi’s new Central Train Station and associated public realm, which will provide the centrepiece of Nairobi Railway City,” Ford said.

Stupid update. This will remain in design stage up on till the next century just like konza tea farm joke.

rvp2018:
Samrobo I see you're desperate for my attention with your juventile rants - I got big reply for all your nonsense. It is in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQvPTPpPps

And it's night version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3geimRsiQDE

Oh I have seen both of this videos. What where you expecting to impress me in this videos?

rvp2018:
Milimani estate in kisumu beat anything in Ghana Nigeria the Zoo can learn a lot what it mean to stay in upper class neighberhood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fLplUcfWcY

Compare that nonsense with this in Ibadan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBx9M0d6DWU

@rvp in your face. I want you to fry blood.watch this trains and start wishing this was nairozoo. I love how uncomfortable it’s makes you feel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znNb7GgSUzw

Rvp is this the cbd that you said is I de eloped works status.
Lol,this is East African chaos. NNS wasted their time,the whole places is back to chaos,filth,rowdiness,disorganization. I laugh in Spanish. Wey embarrassing to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv0ede9RvP8

Loly

Mwea town curse be upon this zoo. Do I still need to say a thing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yQvAv_KnQ

rvp2018:
Samrobo, as you engage in slum Indecency, Nairobi is moving ahead of Joburg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZwcSd_Gpx0

Nothing to see here stupid.same cbd,I am more versed about about anything Nairobi and Kenya urban centers than you.I have seen it Alan’s no amount of hyping,tilting,editing can change my views.this things are naked eye test.

gallivant:
You bragged someone was being economical with the train speeds. I only reminded you the speeds don't matter. Why is that a hard pill to swallow oga?

Oh speed does matter idiot. No one wants to get stucked on some old crappy snail paced train like in Nairobi.I mean that Spanish garbage.

rvp2018:
That is revenue. You havent even factored the cost of building the railway because you're a zoo that use oil money. In kenya we expect the rail to eventually pay for itself after turning profitable.
Revenues of 5M dollars is big joke for a quarter.
Kenya Railway monthly revenues are about 30m dollars.

Your sgr has been a joke since inception.everybody knows this,so don’t push it.
We just laugh and keep it moving.you have nothing to lecture us in,most definitely not rails.

rvp2018:
Explain to me like a kid.
Red line is 37 kms with 12 stops.
That mean a stop every 3km.
Why would you go shopping for high speed train?
How stupid is your entire gov?
You need a train that runs at 30kms per hour....not 330KPH
High speed train will cost more money to buy , more money to run, more money to maintain.
That is probably why Chicago didnt buy it.
Now spanish found bonobos from African to sell it.
330KPH is good if you were deploying express services btw say Lagos and Ibandan or even better Lagos - Abuja.

You are making noise and I am not bothered.so long as we can afford it then why not.we didn’t borrow so I honestly cant be bothered about the cost. If your borrowed money finanaced flyover makes you happy why can’t our self funded brand new HIGH SPEED TRAIN (feels good to say that out loud) make me happy. You are trying so hard to debase it cos you know your zoo can never afford one even if you were loaned the whole of Chima’s treasury. This over that Spanish garbage anyway,any fvcking time.

rvp2018:
But seriously who bewitched you. Why would YOU need 330KMH train for metro line in lagos. That will be hopefully stopping every few meters if not kilometers.

You went and bought train that was meant to commute btw Milwaukee and Chicago - a distance of 150kms - to use it in Lagos slumpolis distance of 40kms - with 12 stops.

It will be a spectacle. 330Km high speed train stopping every 3kms. Man

We have the money,pls let’s spend it the way we like it in infrastructure.we don’t want to rot down like Kenya. Pls bare in mind that we didn’t borrow a dime to build and buy that.All you are seeing is a collocation of Lagos tax money. Lagos tax money got us that,it’s didn’t end in someone’s pocket.we didn’t even get a dime from the federal govt in Abuja.All this is funded with our tears,sweat and blood. Hit me up when you can pull this up,unless your zoo remain that backwater society where so much as a paved road appear to be an alien to the host community.

rvp2018:
Describe the mess in 10 words.

Primitive,basic,dusty,zero modernity,no walkways for jogging,zero cctv,drainage problems,no central sewage system,primitive lifestyle of having overhead tanks fir basic supply of water,basic architecture and the list goes on.


Now that my friend should be a lifestyle for a basic Nairobian earning 70k usd not billionaires and millionaires. Absolutely nothing fascinating about this.

Just40:
sorry

Milimani is just another village below Akosombo

Anyway, why are your estates always a mess?

Lol I thought I was the only one that noticed.very ugly estate and the idiot had the gut to even post that rubbish and brag.what happy to his eyes? Did he even watch it at all?