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Rossikk:Anyone who believes that Illuminati crap is one gullible fool like you are. Do you think rocket science, fundamental physics and all that run on these supposed occultic powers? fool |
bigass123: |
Nigeria and its circle of backwardness and ineffectiveness, so we now have to resort to superstitious meeans to fight a problem that is obviously in need of a more rugged approach. Those of you guys that are advocating for this, how come the white men still succeeded in colonizing us even with all the charms we must have had? obviously they had superior technology and tactics, thats what we have to use instaed of acting like a bunch of ignorant fools. The most powerful nations right now obviously do not use charms in fighting their wars. And as for corruption, swearing an oath by a traditional god will do nada, its a pure waste of time. It further goes to show how pathetic our condition is. *shaking my head* |
0079jaBond:That's where you folks get it all wrong, look around you, you assume Someone created a universe that works logically but when you realise that you cant defend your claims logically, you just throw away logic and introduce sentiments. Read your bible, theres a verse that says: ''come let us reason together". If i may ask, what do you reason with, sentiments? obviously its logic. There's no magic in the universe (at least none that am aware of) but the universe is magical already as it is. Embrace logic, there may or may not be a God or Gods but don't act like you've found Him or Them, coz, you don't have the evidence to back up such a monumental claim. The short and long of it is that everything works within a logical context and outside that is madness and chaos. And i also noticed you (like many religionists) are grossly ignorant of the details of the theory of evolution ( from unicellular to multi-cellular and increasing levels of complexity + natural selection and so on. Who told you it was specifically the apes we came from?) all you need to do is read and not harbour fantasies of being created by a magical being. I also do realize that i didn't fall from the sky, i was born, not made.... |
0079jaBond:To an imaginary entity. There is nothing after death, you cease to exist as a personality coz the central nervous system is dead. but anyday you find empirical evidence that we survive physical death, please do contact me as i'll be very much ready to listen. |
0079jaBond:]Some peeps don't like limitations. There is no point in going on with this discussion for ever, we can talk about more useful things that actually affect man. |
0079jaBond:Sounds like a ploy to enslave people and keep them in perpetual dependence on something that will never come. |
0079jaBond:Don't you think these 'mysteries' (supposing they exist) have been kept for too long? |
0079jaBond:Summary please |
Great0:I don't know what you're talking about. |
0079jaBond:I hope you don't mean science in the modern sense of the word, coz Paul had no idea of what science is as we know it. Simply put, science there meant general knowledge but i imagine you mean modern science. It's amazing the things we believe, coz obviously they appeal to us more than the complex and more valid explanations. |
Perfectly human. Quantum state of mind |
A lot of folks here can't tell pseudoscience apart from real science. So they say things like: science cannot contradict true Satanism or their various religions and belief systems. |
Enki, supposedly the creator of man, but hates Jews and for some reason lovesss black people. Of all the things to blame for Africa's backwardness, it's dead spiritual life, again caused by Jews and their collaborators the Christians + a grand conspiracy by white people. Enki is an alien and geneticist but can't relate with the worlds scientific population unless of course 'if' you dedicate your life to him. Intelligent aliens should be physical and probably advanced scientifically, but of all the energies in the universe to harness, they choose a fictitious psychic energy supposedly given off by Christians and jews in worship. And what more, what we experience subjectively (which varies on a grand scale) is more important than 'empirically verified' and tested 'facts and theories'. |
You guys can keep arguing forever, but at the end of the day, what exists exists, and an illusion (or delusion) will remain what it is. No more than that. |
"THE CHRISTIAN DARE"I dare you to get on your knees and beg Jesus to save you."I've lost count of how many times people have urged me to get down on my knees. We know people can have profound emotional experiences if they first implicitly ASSUME a god is real. In Christian cultures it works when people assume Jesus is real. In Hindu cultures, it works when people assume Shiva, Vishnu or another god is real. And because it works for just about any god, we know it is self-induced.Well, I have a challenge for believers. It doesn't require you to fall to your knees or to assume anything magical or extraordinary. It just requiresyou to use your reason.I dare you to open yourself to the possibility that you may be wrong. Ask yourself, what if the god you believe in was invented more than 100 generations ago by people who thought the Earth was flat?Once you start with that possibility, is the Bible easier to understand? Does the awful Iron Age morality you find in the Old Testament now make sense? Would that be a simple explanation for all the magic and superstition you find in that book? Does that explain the dismally wrong cosmology found in the Bible such as the idea that stars are small lights that could fall to Earth?If you will accept my dare, you may be able to break the chains that keep parts of your mind trapped in the Iron Age.Try it. I dare you." by Bill Flavell |
Mellin, Real or imaginary, the beings I experienced were certainly not gray aliens. |
Mellin:Like I said: "individual subjective experience is not enough to say that one knows for certain as there are sharply contrasting experiences in the subjective world." |
Mellin keeps harping on experience. Well, if it were by experience I'd believe that Jesus is Lord, I'd believe I personally heard the voice of God and the first thing he told me was that Jesus is Lord. Because of experience, I'll believe there are supernatural beings like angels, some practically have no substance and others are super strong. If it were by experience I'd believed Satan attacked me coz I praised God with the book of revelations. I'd believe that tongue talking is a supernatural language that the Holy Spirit understands and responds to and that there are levels of tongues and I would have at least 3 people I know personally that validate my experience. You see I'd believe you are being deceived. In short by experience God called me by my name in my sleep as warning, a day after I burnt my bible. My point? individual subjective experience is not enough to say that one knows for certain as there are sharply contrasting experiences in the subjective world. |
"The faith movement has become the most lucrative Christian strategy. Since the time of Apostle Paul, it had become the most 'refined' gospel but the new faith movement started from the era of Kathrine Kulman through Kenneth Hagin till the present age. It sounds more modest to be a faith preacher than to be a prosperity preacher & thus more & more people are turning up as faith preachers. Faith this, faith that, blah blah blah. Just like the work of poetry, every wordsmith (otherwise the 'teacher of the Word') is bringing out linguistic & artistic constructions to the same Hebrews chapter 11. Tons of books & messages are being turned out daily on this issue of faith that you begin to wonder if this faith thing is as profound as quantum physics or rocket engineering. Well, I have very serious problems with faith being the highest way of knowing. 3 problems 1. When people make trivial claims, we ask them for evidence. For instance, we don't take people's word when they say they've paid. We don't use faith to verify their claim: we ask for their receipts/payment vouchers. If I say I drank 4 bottles of Coke in 10 minutes, you might shrug & take it as a fact. But if I say I finished a truck load of Coke in 30 minutes, you would surely want proof for that before accepting it as truth. Thus the bigger the claim, the bigger the evidence required before it's accepted as truth. But here we are with people making the greatest of all claims in human history & all they want to offer as evidence is faith. Isn't there something wrong here? Why would you consider faith as useless in trivial claims but take it as important in the greatest of claims like the origin of the universe, the existence of God, etc? 2. There are thousands of religious beliefs on earth. In Nigeria alone, we have the Muslims that believe in Allah who doesn't exist in a Trinity & doesn't have a son. The Christians believe in a God that exists in a Trinity & has a son. The traditional Yorubas believe in an Eledumare that presides over a pantheon of gods. The Brotherhood of The Cross & Star believe that Olumba Olumba, a native of Cross Rivers State, is the Holy Spirit of the Holy Trinity. The people on the Lagos-Ibadan expressway believe that Sat Guru is the one true God, being a God-incarnate even though he's an indigene of Ibadan. Well, the last two (Olumba Olumba & Sat Guru) are God-man incarnates just like Jesus of Nazareth. Factor in the Jews that don't believe that Yahweh exists in a Trinity or has a son: similar to Allah except that he doesn't have a messenger called Muhammad. Then factor in Buddhism, Hinduism& all the other thousands of faiths across the globe. The ISIL & Boko Haram arrived at their ideologies via faith too. All these people KNOW these 'facts' via that same instrumentality of faith. If faith was such a very dependable method of knowing, why did it lead these people to, not only different destinations, but completely contradictory destinations? & how did people with each of these beliefs reliably conclude that all the others are wrong in their own beliefs? 3. What exactly has faith done? While faith preachers are in their expensive suits & ties organizing faith conferences in posh venues around the world, selling faith 'textbooks', & standing over shining glass pulpits to talk to excitable crowds, sick people are applying their faith on the hospital beds & still dying of diseases incurable to medicine. Faith can not cook yam, drive a car or repair a phone. You'll still need to do those things yourself. Faith has never solved any human problem. When the black plague perturbed the whole world, people applied faith. It didn't stop. People still needed to devise human solutions. When Ebola ravaged the West African coast, people applied faith. It didn't work. People still needed to devise human solutions. The countries with the best health & development indices for the citizens are those where the fewest people have faith. So why all the fuss, talking & textbooks on faith? Can we pls devote more of the time we spend talking about faith to providing real solutions to problems of humanity?" Credits to Peter Adeosun Keyz on Facebook. |
BuhariWillWin is obviously a rogue, no allegiance. If you start perceiving beyond shared reality, insanity can become a real possibility. |
knowyaself2:I'll like to have those proofs if you don't mind... |
oluwapoju:So what do you think? |
Knowyaself2, interesting, but the Idea of multiverse is still largely theoretical. The problem with you guys is that the only thing you expect is for scientific enquiry to confirm your beliefs and nothing more. |
My former spiritual mentor and friend used to describe what Mellin describes as sessions with Enki as: fellowship with the HolySpirit where they speak/converse one on one. I remember he would tell me that the HolySpirit is a gentle Spirit that is easily hurt and how the HolySpirit is a gossiper coz he tells him some things that people are doing in secret and sometimes shows him things that are happening outside (3rd eye anybody?). He describe it as a state of being connected where he invites the HolySpirit with praise and worship. the surface temperature of his body would increase when he is "connected" as he puts it(in short his fiancée could tell when he is connected). I remember one day in church as he ministered, he wept and told us that the "sweet Holy Spirit" was there and that he could feel him like "liquid fire". Some of you might wonder why am sharing this story, but the truth is am trying to draw a parallel between Mellin's experience and that of my former mentor and friend whom I've fallen out with. Remember, parallels..... |
I think its interesting how some group of people think they are smarter and better informed than some of the worlds most brilliant scientists who have access to state of the art technology in the quest to understand the universe. Hell, someone even said believing the Big Bang theory is crazy, Theo beautiful thing is you don't have to believe, you just need to be intelligent and objective enough to consider the facts and components of the theory against the background of scientific information available. Meanwhile, it seems like there isn't much hope for great0, for him, believing Jesus is the all and all and no knowledge outside of that is necessary (typical slave mindset). The typical thing with religion is that there is nothing tangible and all you'll find is people engaging in words gymnastics (throwing around words like they are tangible). |
"The imagery was captured by Nasa's Solar Dynamics Observatory and edited together by a YouTube user, Suns flare, who challenged experts to explain the strange 'visitor.'Naturally, the space agency has a rather more ordinary explanation for the strange, black orb. It's not a visitor from another solar system - or a planet being born out of the surface of the sun, as others had speculated. Instead, it's a solar 'prominence' or 'filament' - a feature extending out from the sun which forms over the course of a day, and can extend hundreds of thousands of miles into space." |
Qpetz:Faith is simply blind belief in unstantiated things which is scarcely necessary where evidence is needed. Faith, revelation and intuition yields largely contrasting answers and have proven to be dangerous a lot of times. The only thing whose practice am marveled at is 'logic', it. has a way of making things fall in the right perspective. |
wamski:Am definitely not an expert in geo engineering, so I don't know the relationship between gold and restoration of atmosphere. About believing virgin birth, you should understand that I'll be working with the assumption that someone who created the world/universe should understand it well enough to be capable of that. |
Mellin:I choose to believe what is more logical or rational. I don't believe a planet can be that close to the sun and still harbour life or even that the living things on that planet are so advanced they can tap the power of the sun directly by inserting a cord or whatever into the sun especially not here in our solar system. I would advice you also employ hard logic before buying into these stories. |
Mellin, so you really believe that a planet and living beings can survive being that close to the sun? and even connect a cord to the sun? ever heard how hot the Suns surface is ( that is temperature)? Am sure there's a logical explanation for that image, you just choosed the pseudoscientific explanation. There are a lot of such images on the net and we all know NASA and scientists sometimes come out to debunk all these claims. |
chalantmike:Dude, don't confuse yourself with simplistic explanations, the theory was propounded by experts in the field. Read up books about how the moon came to be or simply Google it and you'll find all the explanations you want. Currently you acting like someone who thinks the earth can't be spherical. |
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