Sports › Re: Super Eagles Sing & Celebrate As They Qualify For #2019AFCON by Samunique(m): 7:30pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
I think those religious bigots in Nigeria need to watch this video and see how
Hammed Musa joined the team to sing without any bad feeling as a Muslim. |
Sports › Re: [VIDEOS] "Hallelujah, Amen!"- Super Eagles Celebrate After Draw Vs South Africa by Samunique(m): 7:09pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
I think those religious bigots in Nigeria need to watch this video and see how Hammed Musa joined the team to sing without any bad feeling as a Muslim. |
Sports › Re: South Africa Vs Nigeria: AFCON Qualifiers - 1 - 1 (Full Time) by Samunique(m): 4:08pm On Nov 17, 2018 |
Oklander: As far I am concerned, Naija won this match 3-1. Smh. I think South Africa are becoming chief experts in football robbery. The obviously robbed us today just the same way they did to Senegal and FIFA had to oder the replay of that match. |
Politics › Re: A Letter To Peter Obi By Meshack Katuka, Kaduna Ex Corper Who Served In Anambra by Samunique(m): 9:25pm On Nov 15, 2018 |
Almunjid: Don't say: He's an Islamic fanatic
Say: He's a Muslim fanatic How do you mean ? |
Education › Re: University Of Ibadan International School Hijab Ban An Invitation To Chaos-MURIC by Samunique(m): 12:06pm On Nov 15, 2018 |
OfficialMURIC: Nigeria is a multi religious society, with predominantly muslim population. Even in advanced countries, muslims girls are not denied their Allah-given right to wear hijab. Christians must and cannot dictate how we dress or look. We all know this Islamaphobia is orchastrated by CAN in order to morally corrupt our muslim ummah. We will resist this. Time to hide and bide is over. Like it or not, the new norms governing how schools in Nigeria treat muslims are being established now. with predominantly muslim population ? Pls tell us where u got your statistic from ? |
Education › Re: University Of Ibadan International School Hijab Ban An Invitation To Chaos-MURIC by Samunique(m): 11:56am On Nov 15, 2018 |
This terrorist at it again  |
Politics › Re: A Letter To Peter Obi By Meshack Katuka, Kaduna Ex Corper Who Served In Anambra by Samunique(m): 9:12am On Nov 15, 2018 |
SouthEastFacts: El Rufai the Islamic Jihadist, hand of the King and Hero of yoruba moslems With this statements, you are not better than hell rufai !!! Tribal bigot !!! |
Politics › Re: A Letter To Peter Obi By Meshack Katuka, Kaduna Ex Corper Who Served In Anambra by Samunique(m): 8:51am On Nov 15, 2018*. Modified: 9:10am On Nov 15, 2018 |
What do u expect from an Islamic fanatic ? Just imagine this point no 3 :  3. Security: While you ( Obi ) invested heavily on local security, empowering Vigilante service to reduce any forms of killing, Your friend ( Hell Rufai ) in Kaduna state mobilised funds to go as far as Chad and Mali to appease foreign mercenaries without any permission from the Minister of foreign affairs, DSS, Defence ministry etc an act of insubordination, treasonable felony, Novel arrogance that yielded no results as the kidnap along Kaduna-Abuja highway, Kachia-Kaduna road and the killings in southern Kaduna had heightened.  @OP, U forgot to add his relentless attack on Christians, Christianity and the person of Jesus Christ on the social media, must especially his tactical support for the killing of Christians in southern Kaduna. What about that his infamous tweet about a "payable debt for killing any fulani "  That man is unfit to rule a village talk less of a multi-ethnic state like Kaduna. He's bigotry and fanaticism is second to none in this present day Nigeria !!! |
Business › Re: Inside Tony Ezenna House In Bourdillon, Ikoyi, Lagos (Pictures) by Samunique(m): 5:30pm On Nov 13, 2018 |
Gangster1ms: Ok No matter how rich i am i know i can never build this nonsense. I love something contemporary, simple and yet classy. Fvck all this gold plating interiors and shi God bless u 21st century man ! waiting go make me build this kind Roman empire house ? U are the only civilized person here! |
Politics › Re: Will Herdsmen Killing Stop If Atiku Is Voted In? by Samunique(m): 8:11am On Nov 08, 2018 |
phase1: The OP is a pretentious zombie.
Yar'adua was not a fanatical ethnocentrist bigot like booharri. He was also a fulani man and loved by all. Same with Atiku.
The truth is that your booharii knows he is a bigot, a nepotist and a fanatic. He has never denied it, yet you have some zombiefied monkeys and baboons from southern nigeria selling their soul for crumb to defend the dullard for pittance. Shame! Yes, u are very correct, some of those guys are just denying the obvious. And the reason is simple, they are religiously bigoted, fanaticism is their problem. They believe in anything Buhari not bcs they are not aware of his miss governance and nepotism but bcs he seems to be the most bigoted of all the only remaining few people in Nigerian political sphere that are driven by religious agenda, hence their blind support for him. Most especially my people from Osun, Iwo and some from northern part of Nigeria. But the most disappointing are the Yoruba Muslims, who for their religious affiliation traded their conscience and remove their eyes from the evil being perpetrated from what look like an agenda from this bigoted leader. As for the Op question, Atiku might be a Fulani man but I can assure you this that he can never be as tribalistic, nepostic and bigoted as Buhari. Buhari is the worst of them all. Buhari and El Rufai seem to be the last men standing for this useless ethno- religious politics. |
Politics › Re: Kaduna Traders Reject El-rufai's Offer To Rebuild Their Burnt Shops by Samunique(m): 7:42am On Nov 08, 2018 |
HAH: how I want to know
I live in kaduna north where majority of people are muslim and I can bet that even here his supporters are not up to 50%, now add kaduna northern senatorial district where the PDP candidate comes from, isa Ashiru the pdp candidate is a very nice person and generous I doubt if elrufai will beat him in zaria Zone, now kaduna south is another hopeless area for elrufai to worsen matters he picked muslim woman as deputy and dropped the Christian deputy he has now, his chance in kaduna southern senatorial district is not more than 15% Leave that guy Salam 1: , some of those guys are just denying the obvious. And the reason is simple, they are religiously bigoted, fanaticism is their problem. They believe in anything Buhari and Hell Rufai not bcs they are not aware of their miss governance but bcs they seem to be the only remaining people in Nigerian political sphere that are driven by religious agenda, hence their blind support for them. Most especially my people from Osun, Iwo and some from northern part of Nigeria. But the most disappointing are the Yoruba Muslims, who for their religious affiliation traded their conscience and remove their eyes from the evil being perpetrated from what look like a religious agenda from these two bigoted leaders. |
Politics › Re: Iranian Shi’ites Threaten To Overthrow Buhari (video) by Samunique(m): 8:06am On Nov 06, 2018 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Yoruba Origins Of The Name Moses (not The Man Moses) - By Reno Omokri by Samunique(m): 11:30pm On Nov 04, 2018 |
RALPHOW: I believe you have a very good point, however God knows all languages, either you can Yeshua or Jesus, it's the same person you refer to, the only son of God.
However, something baffled me in the Ifa worshippers , when they talk about Ella in Ifa, all the oriki of Ella are just description of Jesus Christ
Ella is refer to as the only son of Eledumare/God. Reno do you think traditional worshippers who believe in Ella as the only son of Eledumare will make heaven.
Please do your findings, it may make salvation easier for some people. Just trying to make sense. U are right, even the same Odu IFA believes that Ella is still returning back to the earth one day. |
Politics › Re: Musa Iliyasu-Kwankwaso Admits Ganduje Received Bribe by Samunique(m): 9:36pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Sirpaul: Finally found his brother Choi !!! Chai o boy you bad gan ooo !!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Oyedepo's Meeting With Atiku Was Not An Exclusive Endorsement(Photos) by Samunique(m): 10:03pm On Oct 11, 2018 |
buhariguy: Oyedepo is on his way to hell, he was already in hell, but this is just a confirmation. For what ? Bcs he isn't supporting your buhari ? You have completely lost your sanity, your support for buhari will ruin you very soon ! Bloody Islamist, why won't you support the blood sucker in aso rock? If I may ask, do u even have a father ? if u do, why would u say this to another man's father ? You're a disgrace to the Yoruba race ! You jump from one thread to another just to rain curses and abuses on those who are opposed to buhari .  Must we all have same opinion ? I pity u !!! |
Politics › Re: Ex-president Olusegun Obasanjo Reportedly Plans To Endorse Atiku Abubakar by Samunique(m): 7:32am On Oct 10, 2018 |
To me and many nigerians , we're left with no other choice than to vote for anything that will remove buhari .
So Atiku carry go, noting do you !!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: The People Vs Muhammed by Samunique(m): 5:26pm On Oct 06, 2018 |
enilove: Anyone who needs the electronic copy, post your email , I will send it there. pls I really need it !!!! salamisamson777@gmail.com Thanks in advance sir ! |
Politics › Re: PDP Reject Osun State Rerun Election Result, Vow To Go To Court by Samunique(m): 6:57am On Sep 28, 2018*. Modified: 7:41am On Sep 28, 2018 |
Well, the same devils not justice awaits you at the court !
Noting anyone can do about it now, nevertheless, keep fighting........ The winners never quit and the quitters never win.
But to those of you who rejoice at this clear injustice of APC, prepare for your own time of wailing for it will surely come. Times and seasons are subject to change, noting is permanent in life !
PDP did their own, they said in their glory days that they will rule Nigeria for 60yrs but crash after 16yrs.
APC is worst, what people do not see is that APC is hurriedly going down toward the part of swift destruction for many reasons I cannot state here. APC might not survive 2019 and if it does, that might be with it last breath, the hand writing is written boldly on the wall and only the wise can see it.
The great old world empires fell !
Where is the great roman empire today ? Or the great Ottoman empire, the great Islamic caliphate? They are all history today !
All I want the people to know is that, no one gets to the power on the platform of wrongdoings gets it right in the corridor of power.
Nigerian should prepare to endure more hardship until we realize that, there's no alternative to doing the right thing but to do the right thing !
The evil you celebrate today will hunt you tomorrow, whether directly or indirectly!
PDP take heart, you were once like that, you breeded this evil ! Your yesteryears apprentices have graduated and now more evil than you, but they will not last!
But are you prepare to right the then wrong ? |
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: MURIC Condemns FRSC For Excluding Muslim Women From Recruitment Exercise by Samunique(m): 9:11pm On Sep 27, 2018 |
zubino: I really don't like commenting on religious issues, but I think this write-up has pushed me.
This is an attack on Christianity & Christians. Why should this man be calling Christians as if they are the board of this road safety. He should hv made his points without pointing fingers on Christians. After all we have other religions in Nigeria too. I really don't understand we are trying to awake a sleeping dog.
Wisdom will be enough to have written to FRSC & making your demands without pointing fingers. Let me end by asking this group to tender apologies to all Christians in Nigeria. A word is enough for the wise. Don't bother yourself. When a sandal begins to sound too frequently it is about to cut and spoil . The man is hitting is head on the rock, very soon he will meet his Waterloo, before he causes religious war in Nigeria. |
Politics › Re: Osun Rerun, The Most Brazen Assault On Democracy, Biggest Robbery Ever - PDP by Samunique(m): 8:34pm On Sep 27, 2018 |
francisbiz: Exactly! Politicians in Nigeria should not be pitied. They are all desperate, and all had rigged, supported rigging or have gained from rigging at some point in their political career.
Even though I want Adeleke to win because I want change in Osun, yet Adeleke can't deny that he had not gained from rigging and winning by trick before.
Everyday is a pay day. Karma is real, and it is most active when you are at the doorstep of victory and happiness.
I was angry that Omisore tangoed with APC instead of PDP, but on a second thought, nothing in battle gives better euphoric orgasm than using your pardonable enemy to annihilate your unpardonable enemy. How was the Osun PDP guber primaries conducted? Was their fairness? I don't know because I was not there
But if Adeleke is coming to equity with clean hands, surely, God will make him a Joseph from the house Jacob.
However, karma awaits the Osun state INEC commissioner, and all those who have done evil in this election , including the winners and losers.
"Who buys my thought Buys not a cup of honey That sweetens every thirst" (Chief Dennis Osadebe" U just said it all brother !!! |
Politics › Re: Osun Rerun, The Most Brazen Assault On Democracy, Biggest Robbery Ever - PDP by Samunique(m): 4:51pm On Sep 27, 2018*. Modified: 5:39pm On Sep 27, 2018 |
Which way naija  Well, noting last forever !!! PDP is paying for their past evil deeds so will APC pay heavier for what they are doing now. In less than 4yrs, APC have done more evil than 16yrs of PDP in power. Therefore their sorrow shall be multiplied when it begins !!! |
Politics › Re: Osun Governorship Rerun Election 2018: Live Updates, Results Monitoring by Samunique(m): 4:38pm On Sep 27, 2018 |
Yuletide25: APC GRAND MASTERS OF RIGGING AND VOTE BUYING... LOOK THE TAG APC USE IN RECOGNISING THEIR MEMBERS IN OSUN RERUN AFTER PROMISING THEM 10k IF YOU ARE NOT SEEN WITH IT, THUGS OR SECURITY PERSONNELS WILL CHASE YOU BACK HOME Bros this is very obvious !!! Where are we heading to ? The funny thing is that, PDP can never get justice in the court of law even with all these evidences !!!! |
Politics › Re: Osun Rerun: Adeleke Deceiving Muslims – MURIC Issues Warning by Samunique(m): 5:09pm On Sep 26, 2018 |
Herdsmen: Na this Kain thing the Dullard the promote..
Yoruba Christians are in trouble. We are not in any trouble!!! Leave that noise maker, the muric man to continue, he has a limited time. MURIC will die a natural death !!! Yoruba Christians don't make noise, we do it on our knees and allow God to act for us. |
Politics › Re: SHOKER! Nigerian Pastor Calls President Buhari A Bastard. Video by Samunique(m): 9:31pm On Sep 24, 2018 |
Naajjii: All of you hailing the pastor for using abusive words on the president continue.If he gets a response now hope they would be no crying of Islamisation. So God directed the pastor to use such language or is he acting on God's direction? All these business people that call themselves pastors following American model of christianity. Did u watch the video at all  Then show us where he called the President/buhari a bastard ? |
Politics › Re: SHOKER! Nigerian Pastor Calls President Buhari A Bastard. Video by Samunique(m): 9:28pm On Sep 24, 2018 |
InansBobo: He wasn't referring to Buhari please, for those that won't watch the video but will jump into conclusions from the topic Thank you ! I watched the video myself and I didn't see where he called buhari a bastard. I think the @op is being mischievous and he's here to cause confusion. |
Politics › Re: Osun 2018 Governorship Election Results From Polling Units & Wards (unofficial) by Samunique(m): 1:20pm On Sep 23, 2018 |
MrALIVE: you don't have Sense at all...what a pathetic statement..so Fg should ban social media because of opposition..
You live in 14th century.
To think you are educated makes it worse. Don't mind madridguy, he's a Muslim, and you know what ? they are opposed to anything freedom ! Most especially, freedom of information ! |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHAT CHRISTIANS MUST KNOW ABOUT ISLAM by Samunique(m): 5:52pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
true2god: You don't understand the psychology of human behavior. A negative remark made concerning a person/group under a peaceful and tranquil atmosphere is usually the truth statement. The Pope made an honest opinion about Islam and the entire Muslim world went hysterical, looting and burning churches, the trademark of Islam and the prophet. For peace to reign and to calm the nerves of hysterical Muslims, he had to issue an apology. The fact remained he made his opinion about Islam known and was removed from the office as a result. No wonder the current Pope Francis will go any length to kiss the ass of the Muslims; this what the globalists and the Soros-funded organization controlling the world order asked him to do. The current Pope is the worst Pope in the history of the papacy; a leftist to the core doing the bid of the global mafia.
Thank God that you also identified that most African-american Muslims are ex-convicts. Most of them accepted Islam in the prison. What does that tell you? Islam is a very attractive religion for people that have criminal tendencies. Islam allow criminals to view themselves as victims of a wrong system instead of taking responsibility for their negative actions or past. 90% of American Muslims are either convicted armed robbers, thieves, murderer or a gang leader. Islam allow them to exhibit their real personality without any iota of conscious.
Take a look at Mike Tyson, Muslim convert (now plant and sell cannabis), Malcom X (assassinated by his fellow nation of Islam member), Mohammed Ali (went to jail for civil disobedience), etc.
Locally, look at Asari Dokubo, a Muslim convert now a hardened criminal and a jihadist.
Thank you for noticing this trend. Wow!!! Bravo ! Bravo !! Bravo !!! U deserve a doctorate degree !!! I like the way u're tutoring this man . Bravo once again ! |
Politics › Re: Don’t Allow Fayose Escape From Nigeria, EFCC Urges Customs by Samunique(m): 5:31pm On Sep 16, 2018 |
gen2briz: They have finally turn Nigeria to film location.. Drama up and down  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Vs Cardiff (4 - 1) On 15th September 2018 by Samunique(m): 6:00pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Chelsea dey hot now |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHAT CHRISTIANS MUST KNOW ABOUT ISLAM by Samunique(m): 5:51pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Empiree: who started long epistle, me or you?.
Your Bible is self CONTRADICTORY. There is no difference between son of God and Son of God. Both mean the same thing in essence.
exactly what happens when you can not defend your religious doctrines. I know from the start that you have little clue how your bible works.
See your confusion again?. Here you affirmed how Jesus was born of Mary and at the same time you said he's son of God borne without woman. You asked me if God can do anything, why can He give birth to Jesus without a woman?. You are very ridiculous. I will ignore you soon because you guys can turn good brain to lifelessly one with your silly doctrines.
Why are you throwing tantrum?. You shouldn't worry about Wikipedia. You shouldn't worry about Quran. You shouldn't worry about plagiarism. You should worry about defending your bible, which obviously you failed at. Your next move now is to insult. Yet you said at the beginning that you wanted no insult. Fake ex-muslim.
See see, now you have started just because you can't defend your silly beliefs. Your bible is false. Your bible is your source of confusion and I can't help you, sir. Sonship and Lordship of Jesus is nothing but fake story cooked up by people who probably smoked weed before writing trash. I know how to insult the moment you crossed my line.
the same way you believe unfounded stories posted by your buddy up there without second guess. So it is a tit for tat. Your bible is filled with hearsays from head to bottom 
your bible is your own nightmares. There are lots of confusing therein. It portrays Jesus a man born of human being and at the same time, some writers tried to make him God and they came up with Trinity.
There is no way you can get out of your confusion for as long as you have your bible. The question is, WHO WROTE THE BIBLE? Empiree u have not ceased to amaze me !!! Well thanks for all the compliments and the abuses !!! But for a reminder, your logic is archaic and boring ! As for the Holy Bible, u people have attacked it for more 1,400yrs with various lies and propagandas , in fact million of dollars are being spent every year by the Saudis on research to discredit the bible, but guess what? it still remain the most circulated and most read book in the world today . No wonder the Bible has this to say : The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. Psalm 12:6-7. As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him. Psalm 18:30. |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHAT CHRISTIANS MUST KNOW ABOUT ISLAM by Samunique(m): 2:06pm On Sep 15, 2018*. Modified: 3:03pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Empiree: I simply referred to your own doctrine. If Jesus is the son of God, how about other good people who are called children of God?. This goes to show you that Jesus is not the only son of God. There are other sons and children of God too. So don't get things mixed up with muslims John 1:12, Matthew 5:9
Don't capitalize on my choice of words, "well mannered". It means the same thing as "good character", "peacemakers" which is what your bible alluded to in John 1:12, Matthew 5:9. That's what Quran calls "righteous conduct". But you people called it "son of God". Question, is Jesus the only son of God now?
And your point is?. What you said here is my point. It shows that Jesus is not the only son of God. Help yourself.
Told you that "well mannered" is my choice of words. It means RIGHTEOUSNESS in Islamic terminology. It is clear from the verses and the way you are talking so far that "Son of God" means someone of good and moral character. It doesn't mean biological son of God. Correct?
You are about to get yourself in full blown contradictions..but let me read further see where you trying to drive at.
"Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
Unfortunately you were borne of human being (FLESH). What is "born of God" means to you?. Apart from that, this shows that Jesus is not the only one born of God. You have just proved me right again. So why do you guys keep saying Jesus is the Only son of God if you are son of God too?
Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[a] gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You[b] must be born again.’
This bible verse is simply speaking in parable. I would use islamic standard to rephrase it. The verse simply means to have Faith and to be good in conduct. This verse of Quran clarifies it, thus:
"Righteousness is not that you turn your faces to the east and the west [in prayer]. But righteous is the one who believes in God, the Last Day, the Angels, the Scripture and the Prophets; who gives his wealth in spite of love for it to kinsfolk, orphans, the poor, the wayfarer, to those who ask and to set slaves free. And (righteous are) those who pray, pay alms, honor their agreements, and are patient in (times of) poverty, ailment and during conflict. Such are the people of truth. And they are the God-Fearing." (Quran 2:177)
See how clear the Quran phrase it without getting anyone confused?. Bro, you are born of human flesh not spirit. It is when you follow God orders and truly worship Him alone and not Jesus, that's when you are truly close to God in spirit. Anyone can experience anything regardless of religion affiliation. Buddhists have spiritual experiences too. Does that make their religion right?. No.
I said earlier that you were about to get yourself into serious confusion. If you can think critically, you should already noticed John 1:1 and 18 are enough confusion. Obviously, John 3:16-17 is spoken by someone unknown. Your confusion has began and i will help you further your confusion until your eyes are open. But allow me to ask you, son of God mentioned in this quote are different from Son of God you have been saying earlier?. You said son of God is different from Son of God. This simply means capital S depicts Jesus. Fine. But the same John said Son is also God. Yet in the same Bible it says God can not been seen not His voice could be heard at all by any human John 5:37. But Jesus was seen and his voice was heard.
"son of God" in the language of the Jews was a very innocent term used to describe a loyal servant of God. Whether the translators and editors chose to write it as "Son of God" (with a capital S) in reference to Jesus and "son of God" (with a small S) in reference to everyone else does not diminish the fact that in the original language, both cases are exactly the same.
Grolier's encyclopedia, under the heading "Jesus Christ," says:
"During his earthly life Jesus was addressed as rabbi and was regarded as a prophet. Some of his words, too, place him in the category of sage. A title of respect for a rabbi would be "my Lord." Already before Easter his followers, impressed by his authority, would mean something more than usual when they addressed him as "my Lord.".... it is unlikely that the title "Son of David" was ascribed to him or accepted by him during his earthly ministry. "Son of God," in former times a title of the Hebrew kings (Psalms 2:7), was first adopted in the post-Easter church as an equivalent of Messiah and had no metaphysical connotations (Romans 1:4). Jesus was conscious of a unique filial relationship with God, but it is uncertain whether the Father/Son language (Mark 18:32; Matt. 11:25-27 par.; John passim) goes back to Jesus himself" .
You are about to enter into serious confusion but let me take it slow. But remember, you have merged God and Jesus to be one entity. At the same time you wanna differentiate them?.
Oh really?. How about this where Jesus claimed to be "Son of man" (eg. Matt. 17:12,Mark 8:38, Luke 9:56)
See highlighted, you are insinuating that Jesus is biological Son of God without having intercourse with woman. You have just committed heinous sin that can not be forgiven unless you make tawbah and desist from such belief. Begotten is animal act. God is not animal nor does He resembles His creations. The moment you equate God with human attributes, you have got yourself in big trouble. Quran has this to say to rebuke your doctrine.
[He is] Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion and He created all things? And He is, of all things, Knowing. (6:101)
He begets not, nor was He begotten. (surah Ikhlas)
But they have attributed to Allah partners - the jinn, while He has created them - and have fabricated for Him sons and daughters. Exalted is He and high above what they describe (6:100)
And say, "Praise to Allah , who has not taken a son and has had no partner in [His] dominion and has no [need of a] protector out of weakness; and glorify Him with [great] glorification."
Finally Quran says,
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs. Pls what is your point here with all this long post, bcs u have not made any point ? Are you saying here that the Bible doesn't support Jesus as being the Son of God or what is your point ? I want state here that this your logic is very boring , the same over and over. You asked whether Jesus is the son of God, and I went to the Bible the very source of his birth, life and teachings, all u could do was to bore me with what you copy from Wikipedia and some Quranic verses from a man whose source of revelations was uncertain, that's if he had any at all. Bcs some of the stories he told about Jesus were all in apocrypha that were already in circulation during his time, and some plagiarized biblical stories and characters. So u want to use the words of a man who thought he was demon possessed as criterion to disprove the Lordship and Sonship of our Lord Jesus Christ You must be a joker ? Grolier's encyclopedia, under the heading "Jesus Christ," says: "During his earthly life Jesus was addressed as rabbi and was regarded as a prophet. Some of his words, too, place him in the category of sage. A title of respect for a rabbi would be "my Lord." Already before Easter his followers, impressed by his authority, would mean something more than usual when they addressed him as "my Lord.".... it is unlikely that the title "Son of David" was ascribed to him or accepted by him during his earthly ministry. "Son of God," in former times a title of the Hebrew kings (Psalms 2:7), was first adopted in the post-Easter church as an equivalent of Messiah and had no metaphysical connotations (Romans 1:4). Jesus was conscious of a unique filial relationship with God, but it is uncertain whether the Father/Son language (Mark 18:32; Matt. 11:25-27 par.; John passim) goes back to Jesus himself" .JUST LOOK AT YOUR HYPOCRISY HERE ! SO U BELIEVED THIS JARGONS YOU COPIED WITHOUT QUESTIONING BUT CANNOT BELIEVE THE BIBLE THE BOOK YOUR ALLAHH ASKED HIS PROPHET TO CONSULT IF HE HAS ANY DOUBT U SEE WHY I REFUSED TO ANSWER YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE? CAUSE I KNEW IT WOULD BE SAME SAME OLD STORY, LOGIC AND PATTERN. pls, u may not bother to quote me if it,s this same boring old logic of yours is all that u have to offer. Except if u have any tangible evidences to show that the "holy bible" does not support the claim that Jesus is God's Son, or concrete scholarly and historical evidences ( which i know may not exist anywhere )to buttress your points. As for that your Quran , forget about it ! |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHAT CHRISTIANS MUST KNOW ABOUT ISLAM by Samunique(m): 10:37pm On Sep 14, 2018 |
Empiree: okay. "Son of the living God". Fair enough. Just want to let you know that all of us good and well mannered human beings are sons and daughters of the living God. Thanks for the reply. Now, how about those who say Jesus is God, and he's the same holy spirit that formed three in one. Do you believe this as well?.
not that fast. Why are you in hurry?. I'm not convinced yet Bros, I know where u are driving at, hope u realize that u are not dealing with a kid here ? Because these questions of yours have been well dealt with on this same thread. Now let me answer your questions, hoping we can have matured discussions with mutual respect here which will benefit the all and sundary. 1. All of us who are good mannered are sons and daughters of God ? ( though surprised to hear this from a Muslim, cause no Islamic theology/doctrine support this, I know u are trying to play smart here). Having said that, I'm yet to see in my Bible where it says, all that are well mannered are God's children. Though plsam 82:6 says, "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. And the "title" Son (s) of God was also used for the Angels in the book of job and genesis chapter six, and God did use this same term for the nation of Isreal when He said, "Isreal is my first born, and Jesus also states it in the betitudes that blessed are the peace makers for they shall be called the children of God. Now the term Son/daughter can be used in three contexts, (by) birth, adoption and mere title. U will agree with me that not all those whom u call your children are your biological or adopted children. ( I know u must be very happy about these points  ). Let's continue.......... ADOPTION IN THE OLD TESTAMENT: God called the nation of Isreal his first son bcs it is the bearerer of the abrahamic covenant through which the promised seed, the future messiah would be born ( not bcs they were well mannered as you suggest in your post) and also, to show how fatherly He was to them relationship wise most especially as the first nation to receive the law of God, the bearer of the oracle of God. Exo 4:23. ADOPTION IN THE NEW TESTAMENT: This is more profound and real than the mere proclamation made in the old testament regarding the nation of Isreal bcs it is done by the spirit of God through faith in Christ. Empiree, this is a definite experience that all those who have been born of the spirit have. Take it or leave, it is true ! It more than being emotional or fanatic, it is a sweet experience ! The Bible says so and I found it so ! This is one of the many reasons I will never doubt the Bible, bcs I had not this experience when i was a muslim until I came to Christ. These following scriptures confirm it, John 1:12-13, Rom 8:14-17 , pls read. Now, the Bible is not calling us here God's children bcs we are well mannered but bcs of the redemption through which we are born again by the Spirit of God ! John 3:5-7. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. John1:12-13. NOW LET'S GO TO THE REAL DEAL: Is Jesus the Son of God by title or adoption ? This answer is capital NO, except we want to break the scriptures ! Jesus is not a son of God, but the Son God. John 1:1, 1:18, 3:16-17, 5:17-23, mark 14:61-62, matt 16:13-18 etc. There are so many instances in the Bible which make Jesus as the only Son of God undisputable. We know most time Jesus tried to hide His identity prior to His crucifixion, that's why He choosed for Himself the title "Son of man" until a few days /weeks to His passion. Jesus on His way to Jerusalem which happened to be His last trip to the city asked His disciples what people say about His real identity, when Peter called Him Christ the Son of the living God He never denied it. But commended him that the flesh and blood has not revealed this to him but the Spirit of God. Matt 16:13-18. He was also asked in mark 14:61-62 whether He's the Son of God and He never denied it but answered "I AM". Lastly, there are many strong claims that Jesus made in the Bible that no mortal has ever made whether before or after Him. If He's not what He is, do u think He would have made those claims, most especially a man so humble and sinless for that matter ?? read John 5:17-23, 14:1-14 etc. Empiree , let me ask you this questions: 1. Do u think what is impossible in our own dimension of being is also impossible in God's own dimension of being? 2. Do u think God needs water, food and oxygen to survive like humans ? 3. Do u believe God created this our big universe out of noting ? Then why do u people think it is impossible for God to have a Son or a Child without woman ? * Pls I will answer your last question latter bcs of space and time . Thanks ! |