₦airaland Forum

Oga just raise the money up and look for Awolowo's head, shikena!

Some people will not comment since it's not cucumber #teamcucumber twale!

bplenty:
@babs612000

This life is very funny. That same Jakande Estate I was born and bred my brother.

Good to see you have been there a few times.

Let me add my few cents to the on going demolitions. You see my brother we Nigerians have a mentality of erecting anything in a residential estate is just okay. You see here in the west we might call them oyinbo people whatever. But at least they live like civil people. I have shops that were demolished too. But the whole make shift shop was just becoming an eyesore. In as much as 9ja is in a recession. It's at leaSt one credible thing that have done right. Having said that. The government should endeavour to help better the estate by building commercial market place where people can sell their goods and services to the general estate populace. Just my one cent my brother.

I agree with you wholeheartedly and I'm not in support of the shops, I'm only being realistic here.
Alternatives were supposed to be put in place before demolition but in this case, non was provided.

Stop trying to compare us with the West. America is over 250 years old and we haven't being thru 1/3 of what they've passed thru.

Provide the basic amenities and tell me if Nigerians won't be civil.
Listen, AN HUNGRY AND OPPRESSED MAN CAN NEVER BE CIVIL!!!

kopell:
Sorry to say, people like you do not think beyond your local environment. You need better living condition beyond what was there now. Its never to late to do things right to improve living condition of our people. do you knew what festac town looks like in the 80s? Pls go and find out

Can you compare the economic situation of the country in the 80's to what we have now?
Did the restructuring happen overnight as against wat is happening now?

Listen, I'm very sure you don't know jack about good living condition!
Do you improve living condition by collapsing the economy?
Do you improve living condition by rendering ppl jobless?
Do you improve living condition by ignoring the bad roads?
Do you improve living condition without good power supply?

Answer these questions before saying any other thing!!!

bibe:
Permit me to ask you some questions to jolt your thinking...

- when a customer comes to buy sachet water and other items usually wrapped in polyethylene, can those shop owners claim to ensure that they were properly disposed? #pollution

- being that the estate is a residential area, it's safe to assume that all occupants are documented, is it safe to assume that the multitude of "strangers" drawn to the vicinity by the presence of these illegal structures/shops are documented?
#insecurity #guysofunderworld

This means that the absence of these illegal structures/shops will help improve security for the residents and the area in general as well as the aesthetics.

Again your argument for "source of livelihood" is emotional at best and continued emergence of "shanties" have to be addressed as it is becoming something of an epidermic countrywide.

I am a realist and I don't believe in making people suffer if it can be avoided. FOI, one thing most occupants love about the area is that u can get almost anything you want without leaving the estate {comfort}
The shops emerged early 2000 to address issues of insecurity and environmental pollution and all the shops are being owned by landlords in the estate not by any Tom, dick nd Harry.
I don't know what part of the world you are speaking from but I can tell u categorically that the so called developed countries fixed their economy and provided food for the people before considering ascetics or any useless beautification.

Now answer this question, what do you expect an able bodied man with criminal tendencies being contained due to the Lil business that he is managing to do when the government forcefully takes it from him without providing any alternative?

Listen, before you say anything or take any action, try to have a deep understanding of the whole issue and weigh the good nd bad sides.

Polices should be made to improve the standard of living but I maintain my ground that this particular one is a capital NO! NO!

The shops are illegal and should go, but not at this time cos we have more pressing needs that needs to be addressed. Also FOI, we have agberos at the estate gate collecting money from commercial drivers thereby causing serious menace, increased tfare which the estate occupants suffer nd insecurity . The govt didn't see this all cos the money gets to them at the end of the day.
FACE THE FACT AND STOP TRYING TO MAKE NIGERIA, AMERICA OVER NIGHT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE POOR MASSES.

bibe:
Do you not understand? The cancer, headache wouldn't be there in the first place if people adhered to/obeyed the original plan/design.

I don't even know where to start nor where to end in trying to elaborate on the problems associated with the deviation from initial plan, design and purpose of the estate with the ere.ction of these "illegal structures". There's insecurity, pollution, environmental degradation to mention but a few.

Imagine buying yourself a nice piece of land in a quiet area mapped for residence and erecting a cosy house only for the area to be turned into a faux market place in a few years time, how would you feel? I'm sure lots of the original occupants and potentially interested citizens would've been forced to vacate/abandon their plans to reside there due to these "illegal structures" and the "headache+cancer" associated with them.

There's never a wrong time to do the right thing.
The problem with lots of us Nigerians is that we actually do not understand the importance of urban planning and why areas are mapped out for residence, trade and what not. I think government needs to start sensitising people on these things.

You've gotten it all wrong.
These so called structures helped curb insecurity and environmental degradation as the shop owners take care of their environment. I've been in the estate for the past 26 years and I can tell you categorically that this exercise will lead to serious insecurity as guys of the underworld now have a free atmosphere to perpetrate their acts.
No responsible government takes away people's source of livelihood in the name of urbanization without providing any alternative. AMBODE got this wrong!!!

bibe:
I'm not here to debate the issue of IGR, but the justification of the demolition exercise. Like I said, it's painful and I can't even begin to imagine what the affected persons are going through but, they shouldn't be there in the first place for an infinite number of reasons.

Government has already provided multiple alternatives in markets and private individuals in malls and mini marts.

We either clean up the system and move forward or keep with the "norm" and continue degenerating.

Pls which malls and market are you referring to? I'm sure you don't have a clue of the place in question. The only market is the one built in the 80's to cater for less than 1000 occupants in the estate then. Now the population is above 10,000 and no extra market or mall has been built. Only say what you know, don't mislead the general public

olaolaking:
Yes, the sewage had been abandoned. The estate had been abandoned. All the zones had altered the original plans.

But I analyzed the situation some years back and I told myself "how can government turn a blind eye to this.
The question is, are those shops truly illegal?

To me the structure were illegal and it is good to remove them.

Do you realise there are other illegal structures asides the shops? Do you know Tree of Righteousness is also illegal?

bibe:
It's a sad experience surely, but your argument (against the demolition) is rather emotional than logical/rational. Those structures are not meant to be there and wasn't planned for.

Yes it's been the norm now (makeshift shops) but that doesn't make it right. Infact it directly mirrors everything that is wrong with Nigeria, we've all abandoned the hard right decisions for the easy "normal" albeit irrational ones and it's been haunting us.

There comes a time when we have to take a step back and take the painful and hard but completely right logical decisions. It's for the best.

It is emotional yes but tell me what is more rational.
If only you have a deep understanding of our plight in the estate, then u'll understand. I'm sure you are being feed stories from the media.
Cancer and Headache, which will u treat first?
Our government end up leaving leprosy to treat ringworm! Demolition is not the solution at this moment.
Good things done at the wrong time = wrong

What happened yesterday was the height of wickedness and government's insensitivity to the plight of the masses. For everyone that cares to know the truth, the demolition had noting to do with Givin the estate an uplift. I live in the estate and I can categorically tell u that we've had the worst power supply in our axis frm January till now, the estate has terrible motorable roads, the govt has stopped financing the operation of the central sewage flushing; individuals in my zone contributed to get the sewage to work when the entire zone became an eye sore due to sewage spillage.
Back to the demolition, the govt called the structures illegal but ask them if LBIC AND EJIGBO LCDA don't collect money from the shop owners or if LASSRA don't collect money for shop name advert. Listen everyone, those structures are shops that are mostly owned by pensioners/retirees and it is the only source of livelihood for most people at a period when rice= 23k, fuel=145, dollar=475>, December is around the corner and all the govt can think of is to stop the only means of survival of poor masses without providing any alternative. To give the estate an uplift, start by improving the power condition, fix the roads, get the sewage to work andprovide affordable shop alternatives before thinking of demolition. Only God will judge all those behind this wicked and satanic act.

As APC don win, na Godwin!!! #inkoredebello'svoice

Having frozen her personal account with a balance of $5m as well as four other accounts linked to her with a balance of$15.6m, the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission is set to invite Dame Patience Jonathan, the wife of former President Goodluck Jonathan.Impeccable sources at the EFCC toldSUNDAY PUNCHthat detectives had visited the Skye Bank branch on Adeola Hopewell, Victoria Island, where the accounts were opened and had obtained the files containing Patience’s information.The source told our correspondent that the detectives had been able to establish a prima facie case of money laundering and forgery against Patience.It will be recalled that as part of investigations into a former Special Adviser to the President on Domestic Affairs, Waripamowei Dudafa, the EFCC traced four company accounts to him all domiciled at Skye Bank.The bank accounts of the four companies — Pluto Property and Investment Company Limited; Seagate Property Development and Investment Company Limited; Trans Ocean Property and Investment Company Limited; and Globus Integrated Service Limited — were said to have been opened with stolen identities.Some of the directors of the company were also said to be domestic servants of Dudafa who did not know that any account had been opened on their behalf.Shortly before the EFCC could arraign the suspects, Mrs. Jonathan deposed to an affidavit insisting that the monies belonged toher, a move which prompted the commission to beam its searchlight on Patience.A detective at the EFCC said, “After three months of investigation, I can confirm to you that we are set to invite Patience Jonathan. We obtained the files from the bank and we realised that those accounts with the $15m were opened with fake identity cards, including driving licences.“We took the cards and went to the Federal Road Safety Corps to verify if the cards were authentic. We found out that the cards were fake. So, this is not just money laundering buta clear case of fraud.“If they had nothing to hide, why did they go to this length?”While the companies have pleaded guilty, Patience insists that the money belongs to her but claims she does not know the companies.In an affidavit, one Sammie Somiari deposed to on behalf of Patience, Mrs. Jonathan claimed that Dudafa helped Patience to open the bank accounts in 2010.However, EFCC investigations revealed that the accounts were opened between 2013 and 2014.According to Somiari, Dudafa had on March 22, 2010 brought two Skye Bank officers to meet Patience at home to open five accounts.The deponent claimed that Patience was the sole signatory to the accounts.He, however, claimed that after the five accounts were opened, Patience later discovered that Dudafa opened only one of the accounts in her name while the other four were opened in the names of companies belonging to Dudafa.Meanwhile, sources within the agency told our correspondent that the commission had been under pressure to drop the case as there are plans by Patience’s supporters to embark on a series of protests this week.On Friday, scores of supporters of Mrs. Jonathan stormed the Port Harcourt zonal office of the EFCC asking the commission to stop probing her.They insisted that Patience, who is also from Rivers State, was innocent.The protesters, who were led by one Sara-Igbe Sukubo, a self-professed anti-corruption ambassador, said they were inthe commission to express their unhappinessand submit their letter of protest over what hecalled ill-treatment of Mrs. Jonathan.In his response, the South-South zonal head of the EFCC, Ishaq Salilu, told the protesters that the EFCC as a creation of law dischargesits responsibilities within the ambits of the law.He said, “The EFCC is a law-abiding organisation which discharges its duties not minding whose ox is gored. We do not shy away from our responsibilities. Where there isa case, we pursue it to its logical conclusion, if there is no case, there is none, we move to other things. The motto of the commission is ‘Nobody is above the law.’”Copyright PUNCH.

Welcome development... But pls invest in mechanized farming instead, coupled with subsidised fertiliser supply for the farmers.

Agriculture is the new oil!!!!

raphieMontella:
weyrey?
What happened to after death comes judgement?
Dead saints?..in other words jesus is also a dead jew...
I hope u know jesus told his apostles that they would be judges with him in heaven...mere mortals
Why should someone intercedede?
Why should u pray for yyour family ni?
Them no get mouth? Why?

After death comes judgement means there is no repentance in the grave. The moment you die, your fate is sealed. And mind you, "the dead in Christ will rise of the last day when Jesus appears"

My Jesus isn't a dead jew as he died and resurrected on the third day before ascending to heaven in a new glorified body,now seated at the right hand of the Father.

The kinda intercession I'm referring to is in heaven. Your relatives and friends can intercede nd you do likewise regarded both parties are alive and your prayer must be channelled to the Father through Jesus only. You can't pray for or to the dead. The only name that has been given authority to bind and loose is the name of Jesus Christ no other name can. Not the name of Paul, Peter, Mary or even Abraham.

Jesus is the only way to the Father! And the only way to Jesus is the confession of your mouth,!. You don't need any mother theresa to pray for you as she is no longer among the living.

krysTein:
Nice speech..... clap for ur dumbass

It's not a must you reply if what I wrote is beyond your comprehension. No one will blame you for being mentally retard at least you can be treated.

dimieprincess:
Your ignorance Is second to none, please tell me where and how are Catholics praying to the father or God via a man.

The Catholic prayer of "pray for us" is a request to intercede on our behalf to the son. By implication of the doctrine of trinity, Jesus and the father is one.

I'm sorry as I Jst realised your case is even worse off!!!
Kindly show me a part in the Bible that says we should pray through a dead man or dead people to Jesus;are you indirectly worshiping the dead.? Cos the so called Saints that you pray through are all dead only to resurrect on the last day.
Why should someone even intercede on your behalf; don't you know Jesus Christ is our only advocate and intercessor.
My dear, you now have a direct link to the Father through his son Jesus Christ our Lord and saviour don't let any person tell you otherwise!

BTW kindly tell me how it is in man's capacity to verify someone as a saint? Are you God

I have just one prayer for my Catholic friends. "I pray God in his mercy have mercy on you all especially those at the bottom of the carder (the ordinary church members)" this is because you don't know a jack about what catholism is truly all about.
The Vatican is a political stronghold used mainly to oppress the world in the crusade era, taking over territories and enslaving people!

Listen, Bowing to images is idolatry which is an abomination before God.

The Bible clearly states it that "Jesus is the way, the truth and the life ;no one cometh to the Father except through him." Jesus is also at the right hand side of God interceding on our behalf so please tell me why you have to go to the Father through mere mortals that will also be judged at the last day.!



Catholism is just another religion hiding under the shadow of Christianity.

Mind you, Jesus didn't come to start a religion, he came to show us the way to the Father and one of the promise he made while ascending was that he will send us the Holy Spirit to guide us, comfort us and show us what to do. Jesus never prayed through any man and he never taught us to pray dat way.

Catholics beware, the devil has taken over your religion.!!!

Can one apply for the loan from Lagos?

Peeps I'm utterly confused because it's past 8 already and no sign of Eclipse here. BTW I'm in Lagos the supposed hot zone for the Eclipse.
Pls report if you have seen the Eclipse any where!!!

All these our hardworking Jewish brothers of Ugandan roots currently squatting in Nigeria... I hail Una ooo!

Burnley 0 - 2 Liverpool



SCATTERSCATTER HAS SPOKEN

Some people will go and kill themselves rather than commit suicide cos of this post

Fayose is always never on the good side....
How on earth should a party that as been tainted as "super corrupt" still go ahead to pick an ex-convict, a kirikiri alma-mater as Chairman.
Now I see why ekiti and ondo States are in the poo they are in. Clueless and useless governors.
PDP had better do the needful and powerfully shun their mumu decision

True

Coming soon

This is a real yeye family...

Eat together
Sleep together
Live together
Steal together
Lie together
Run together
Wail together
Case together

#korounitedfamily

Firstly I must apologize to my able Governor for not believing in him before the election and shortly after. Yes I voted for u only cos I wanted Lagos to be aligned with the center for the first time in 16yrs.
You have surpassed my expectations sir and I'm more than proud to be governed by you.

God bless Ambo
God bless Lagos state
God bless Nigeria

Eko sese bere ni ooo!!!

Only OAU students both current and past will understand the importance of this story.

Throughout my academic stay in OAU never for once did I fear any cult attack neither did I receive any threat from anyone. It was so unusual even tho it used to be the norm.

OAU students stood in unity and fought Campus Cultism to a halt. This shows the importance and strength in speaking with one voice and fighting together for a just course.

Say no to Cultism , it is a killer of dream and purpose!!!

AFRIKA died a legend,
his blood was shed
so others' can be spared
He died on his bed even if it was gory
But I'm sure he definitely lives on in his glory.

LIVE ON AFRIKA

But wait... How come, did the horses collide or wat
I don't understand sef

Hmmm