Christianity Etc › Re: Thank You Nature For Liberating Africa Gradually by ScienceWatch: 1:13pm On Apr 01, 2017 |
Here we see Jesus Christ tell Atheists/Satanists and fake pastors the real reason why they can’t believe the evidence of His miraculous WORKS. Joh 7:14 Now about the middle of the Jewish religious festival in Israel, Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. Joh 7:15 And the Jews were amazed, saying, How do this man know this, having never learned? Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, the doctrine you hear is not mine, but the true God that sent me. Joh 8:29 And He that sent me is with me: God has not left me alone; for I do always the WORKS that please Him. (Restoring the lives of suffering people.) Joh 8:38 I speak and do the WORKS which I have seen with my Father the true God: and you do that which you have seen with your father Satan. Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches. Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father. otemdomino: I bless you element of God the Universe. I bless you nature, the body part of God. You have within you all your children. And you gave them allowance to do what they wish.
Your children are the gods who present themselves as God Almighty. And they rule over the earth one after the other.
The days of Enki is past, so was the day of Enlil. Moloch came and conquered, and his time expired also.
Anu came and ruled over many nations and he went away also. Then lastly came Yahweh who was named Satan. And he has deceived the world enough to the point whereby many are offended.
And through Faulkin his adopted son did he deceive the world. Now The Star of Yahweh is getting dim. For Atum has come from making findings. He has come to cast shadow of Yahweh, whose lies are taller than the tallest mountains. And his deceptions are more abundant than the seas.
And Atum had said, let the secrets of the messengers of Yahweh begin to be revealed by the POWER OF COINCIDENCE. And Atum has sent me Otem his adopted son into the world. And for the purpose of the future am I here.
Behold, Yahweh is cast into a spiritual cage. And he shall be there for a thousand years with Allah his partner in evil. And humanity shall know more peace in their minds.
And they shall feel God in themselves. Declare, declare against the servants and prophets of Yahweh and it shall stand. Declare that their secret sex affairs and embezzelements should be revealed. And the declarations shall take root.
Let they who womanize among the pastors of Yahweh be brought to limelight. Let the old potbellied ones who stage miracles be exposed.
For the hobby of Oyedepo is faking miracles. And the talent of TB Joshua is dramatising testimonies. They are fake. Kumuyi and Adeboye. Suleiman and Muoka. The thieves whom we revere and call men of God.
O nature I beseech you, expose their secret and let them be known for whom they are, either in their lifetime or in death. Let their cases be like that of Elijah Akinade, the pretender whose death exposed him greatly.
Reveal their hypocrisies O nature. For he who covers them up is now in chains by his brothers. Yahweh, the arrogant son of God Almighty is in bounds and according to the thummims, he shall be there for a thousand years. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank You Nature For Liberating Africa Gradually by ScienceWatch: 1:05pm On Apr 01, 2017 |
otemdomino: Thank you so much. I wish the gullible ones and the victims of religious slavery know this too: Junia, Jacksonville, Gboyee4fun, Goddy the failed prophesier and ScienceWatch the worshipper of Joshua.
May the LIGHT OF GOD THE UNIVERSE help them from the delusions of their religion. Be very careful Nigerians, do not jump so quickly into the trap set by Satanic forces/ Atheism and its many disguises. Now we have no more excuse for our ignorance of how the spirit realm on both the dark side and the light side operate in human life, thanks to Emmanuel TV and Youtube all this can be seen from anywhere in the world. It is hair raising and frightening to see and hear all the personal testimonies of people that have suffered because of stepping into the dark side. Can one escape the vicious spiritual traps laid for millions of innocent people by fake pastors, spiritualists, competing religions, cruel governments and science? Emmanuel TV and Youtube provides a clear window into the spirit world and the most scientifically verifiable evidence of the highest spiritual TRUTH to the world 24 HRS A DAY. Now you too can escape into true light. blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye May the force be with the following; hardmirror, jonbellion, akintom, coolusername, sirwere, Hahn, johnnydon22, Lennycool, benzics , Libradeus, lepasharon, otem, otemdomino, frank317 |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Satan(yahweh) Behaved Among His Brothers by ScienceWatch: 12:51pm On Apr 01, 2017 |
otemdomino: You have already reached the bus stop of your own knowledge. You have made Joshua your god, thereby reducing your own potentials.
IT SHALL BE VERY HARD FOR SOMEONE LIKE YOU TO SEE THE STRONG CONNECTION BETWEEN YOU AND GOD THE UNIVERSE. You make some very good points about me. Thanks Otemdomino ! It is clear that you know more about the Holy Prophet TB Joshua than Professor of Theology, Willem Ouweneel or the greatly Anointed man PS Upthegrove. Do you know more than the Group of pastors from New Zealand ? They had this to say after their investigation into the truth about the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria. " Among our group there were three senior pastors, two evangelists and two men leading major Christian work in New Zealand. Between us we had 180 years of ministry. Our conclusion on the miracles witnessed in the Holy Scoan Nigeria was that this is truly the work of God." After examining what you have to offer, I prefer to remain at this bus stop and reduce my own potential than accept any guidance from someone like you. You make an ideal candidate for Atheism. You should speak to Hahn for some tips on this. He will welcome you warmly. All the best with your choice ! blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye May the force be with the following ; hardmirror, jonbellion, akintom, coolusername, sirwere, Hahn, johnnydon22, Lennycool, benzics , Libradeus, lepasharon, otem, otemdomino, frank317 |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Holy Prophet TB Joshua Is More Than The Greatest Anointed Pastor Today ! by ScienceWatch(op): 12:23pm On Apr 01, 2017 |
ScienceWatch: The Holy Prophet TB Joshua stands as an embodiment of three Great biblical mysteries;
• Prophet TB Joshua goes on before the LORD in the spirit of and power of Jesus, just as John went on before the LORD in the spirit and power of Elijah –
• Prophet TB Joshua wears the mantle of Jesus on the earth, just as Elisha wore Elijah’s mantle, (this inadvertently makes his coming the fulfilment of the awaited messiah’s return, if you’re willing to accept it).
• And of the third mystery you can also be sure – that just as the Joshua of old (on wearing Moses mantle) was the one who led the Israelites to the promised land; the Prophet TB Joshua of today (on wearing Jesus mantle), is the one to now lead believers to the promised Kingdom above.
He who has ears let him hear. looking intently through the Holy Scriptures, the best description depicting the personality of TB Joshua is the Fifth Angel whose coming to earth was predicted in revelation. In the book of Revelation 20, the Revelation according to John heralded the coming of an Angel from Heaven having the Key to the bottomless pit and a Great Chain in his hand. The Angel according to Revelation 20 laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, which is the devil and Satan and bound him for a thousand years; and cast him into the bottomless pit and shut him up and set a seal on him so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished.
It has also been said by unclean spirits during deliverances at the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria that TB Joshua moves around in the spiritual realm with a Great Long chain in his hand with which he disrupts demonic meetings, they flee on seeing him while some are eventually arrested and come under the restrictions of his spiritual chain
The Holy Prophet TB Joshua also explained what happens when he exorcises a demon which clearly confirms what is inferred above. TB Joshua explained that when he exorcises a demon, the demon is CHAINED HANDS and LEGS and is thrown into hell awaiting judgment.
(please note that this role can only be performed by the angel with the key to the bottomless pit and a Great Chain in His Hand working with the Holy Prophet TB Joshua)
In other words, the demon is sent into the place prepared for the devil and his angels. Hell which is also called “Gahena” (in Greek) and these demon spirits have no chance of returning to the world, neither can it repossess its former host or any other person because the demon has been shut up in hell and a seal set a on him. Revelation 20
Among the medical profession, the most watched TV channel is Emmanuel TV and also Youtube inspite of the Satanic attacks against the Holy Scoan Nigeria.
blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye
Much needed blessings go to the following; hardmirror, jonbellion, akintom, coolusername, sirwere, Hahn, johnnydon22, Lennycool, benzics , Libradeus, lepasharon, otem, Here we see Jesus Christ tell Atheists/Satanists and fake pastors the real reason why they can’t believe the evidence of His miraculous WORKS. Joh 7:14 Now about the middle of the Jewish religious festival in Israel, Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. Joh 7:15 And the Jews were amazed, saying, How do this man know this, having never learned? Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, the doctrine you hear is not mine, but the true God that sent me. Joh 8:29 And He that sent me is with me: God has not left me alone; for I do always the WORKS that please Him. (Restoring the lives of suffering people.) Joh 8:38 I speak and do the WORKS which I have seen with my Father the true God: and you do that which you have seen with your father Satan. Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor , not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches. John 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father. The holy Prophet TB Joshua is a true Disciple of the living God, anointed by Jesus Christ. The Evidence speaks for it self. Don’t be deceived by others. Among the medical profession, the most watched TV channel is Emmanuel TV and also YouTube in spite of the Satanic attacks against the Holy Scoan Nigeria. blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye Much needed blessings go to the following; hardmirror, jonbellion, akintom, coolusername, sirwere, Hahn, johnnydon22, Lennycool, benzics , Libradeus, lepasharon, otem, |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Holy Prophet TB Joshua Is More Than The Greatest Anointed Pastor Today ! by ScienceWatch(op): 12:19pm On Apr 01, 2017 |
ScienceWatch: The Holy Prophet TB Joshua stands as an embodiment of three Great biblical mysteries;
• Prophet TB Joshua goes on before the LORD in the spirit of and power of Jesus, just as John went on before the LORD in the spirit and power of Elijah –
• Prophet TB Joshua wears the mantle of Jesus on the earth, just as Elisha wore Elijah’s mantle, (this inadvertently makes his coming the fulfilment of the awaited messiah’s return, if you’re willing to accept it).
• And of the third mystery you can also be sure – that just as the Joshua of old (on wearing Moses mantle) was the one who led the Israelites to the promised land; the Prophet TB Joshua of today (on wearing Jesus mantle), is the one to now lead believers to the promised Kingdom above.
He who has ears let him hear. looking intently through the Holy Scriptures, the best description depicting the personality of TB Joshua is the Fifth Angel whose coming to earth was predicted in revelation. In the book of Revelation 20, the Revelation according to John heralded the coming of an Angel from Heaven having the Key to the bottomless pit and a Great Chain in his hand. The Angel according to Revelation 20 laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, which is the devil and Satan and bound him for a thousand years; and cast him into the bottomless pit and shut him up and set a seal on him so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished.
It has also been said by unclean spirits during deliverances at the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria that TB Joshua moves around in the spiritual realm with a Great Long chain in his hand with which he disrupts demonic meetings, they flee on seeing him while some are eventually arrested and come under the restrictions of his spiritual chain
The Holy Prophet TB Joshua also explained what happens when he exorcises a demon which clearly confirms what is inferred above. TB Joshua explained that when he exorcises a demon, the demon is CHAINED HANDS and LEGS and is thrown into hell awaiting judgment.
(please note that this role can only be performed by the angel with the key to the bottomless pit and a Great Chain in His Hand working with the Holy Prophet TB Joshua)
In other words, the demon is sent into the place prepared for the devil and his angels. Hell which is also called “Gahena” (in Greek) and these demon spirits have no chance of returning to the world, neither can it repossess its former host or any other person because the demon has been shut up in hell and a seal set a on him. Revelation 20
Among the medical profession, the most watched TV channel is Emmanuel TV and also Youtube inspite of the Satanic attacks against the Holy Scoan Nigeria.
blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye
Much needed blessings go to the following; hardmirror, jonbellion, akintom, coolusername, sirwere, Hahn, johnnydon22, Lennycool, benzics , Libradeus, lepasharon, otem, Firstly, Jesus says clearly in these biblical refs that the WORKS that He does bear witness that the Father has sent him. The evidence of the miracles reveals a creator God and increase faith that lead to salvation of ones soul. Here Jesus explains to pastors world-wide and forever, why all the miracles, prophecy, Signs and Wonders are an extremely important part of His Mission and the missions of every future pastor/pope/minister etc. Joh 5:35 John was a burning and a shining light: and you were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. Joh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the miracles/ WORKS which the Father has given me to finish, the same miracles/ WORKS that I do, bear witness for me, that the Father hath sent me. Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who has sent him. Today, the whole world is truly blessed to have the evidence of Jesus’ WORKS Biblically and scientifically verified in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and on Emmanuel TV and youtube.com. The evidence in the miracles increase faith that lead to salvation of ones soul Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor, not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches. Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father. The holy Prophet TB Joshua is a true Disciple of the living God anointed by Jesus Christ. The Evidence speaks for it self. Don’t be deceived by others. Among the medical profession, the most watched TV channel is Emmanuel TV and also YouTube in spite of the Satanic attacks against the Holy Scoan Nigeria. blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye Much needed blessings go to the following; hardmirror, jonbellion, akintom, coolusername, sirwere, Hahn, johnnydon22, Lennycool, benzics , Libradeus, lepasharon, otem, |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Holy Prophet TB Joshua Is More Than The Greatest Anointed Pastor Today ! by ScienceWatch(op): 12:10pm On Apr 01, 2017 |
The Holy Prophet TB Joshua stands as an embodiment of three Great biblical mysteries;
• Prophet TB Joshua goes on before the LORD in the spirit of and power of Jesus, just as John went on before the LORD in the spirit and power of Elijah –
• Prophet TB Joshua wears the mantle of Jesus on the earth, just as Elisha wore Elijah’s mantle, (this inadvertently makes his coming the fulfilment of the awaited messiah’s return, if you’re willing to accept it).
• And of the third mystery you can also be sure – that just as the Joshua of old (on wearing Moses mantle) was the one who led the Israelites to the promised land; the Prophet TB Joshua of today (on wearing Jesus mantle), is the one to now lead believers to the promised Kingdom above.
He who has ears let him hear. looking intently through the Holy Scriptures, the best description depicting the personality of TB Joshua is the Fifth Angel whose coming to earth was predicted in revelation. In the book of Revelation 20, the Revelation according to John heralded the coming of an Angel from Heaven having the Key to the bottomless pit and a Great Chain in his hand. The Angel according to Revelation 20 laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, which is the devil and Satan and bound him for a thousand years; and cast him into the bottomless pit and shut him up and set a seal on him so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished.
It has also been said by unclean spirits during deliverances at the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria that TB Joshua moves around in the spiritual realm with a Great Long chain in his hand with which he disrupts demonic meetings, they flee on seeing him while some are eventually arrested and come under the restrictions of his spiritual chain
The Holy Prophet TB Joshua also explained what happens when he exorcises a demon which clearly confirms what is inferred above. TB Joshua explained that when he exorcises a demon, the demon is CHAINED HANDS and LEGS and is thrown into hell awaiting judgment.
(please note that this role can only be performed by the angel with the key to the bottomless pit and a Great Chain in His Hand working with the Holy Prophet TB Joshua)
In other words, the demon is sent into the place prepared for the devil and his angels. Hell which is also called “Gahena” (in Greek) and these demon spirits have no chance of returning to the world, neither can it repossess its former host or any other person because the demon has been shut up in hell and a seal set a on him. Revelation 20
Among the medical profession, the most watched TV channel is Emmanuel TV and also Youtube inspite of the Satanic attacks against the Holy Scoan Nigeria.
blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye
Much needed blessings go to the following; hardmirror, jonbellion, akintom, coolusername, sirwere, Hahn, johnnydon22, Lennycool, benzics , Libradeus, lepasharon, otem, |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Holy Prophet TB Joshua Is More Than The Greatest Anointed Pastor Today ! by ScienceWatch(op): 11:51am On Apr 01, 2017 |
Jacksonville: @Sciencewatch You don't have to go all this far to prove the authenticity of The man of God . The bible teaches us how to identify a true prophet of the Lord...Even when the people are in doubt, the words of the prophet will never fall to the ground because the lord is with him , and an example is Samuel.
The lord says in numbers 12:6 Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.
Eziekel 33:33 And when this cometh to pass — lo, it will come — then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.”
Unless the spirit of the Lord had departed from thy servant ,then what they speak will not be from him but from a lying spirit.
1 kings 22:22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
I don't need anyone like you to tell me whether he is highly anointed or not. But the problem is, you can't speak of him as the most anointed of all servants of the Lord.
The lord personally revealed him to me as a man of God , but he hasn't heard the Lord's word for a year now... I can't differentiate between the past and the present, but that's what the Lord says.
He's highly anointed but I don't know where he missed it . There is a Savior in Nigeria! A pastor, minister, evangelist will be known by their WORKS (the combination of miracles, signs and wonders) so that fake pastors can be separated from the real pastors. The wheat is separated from the chaff. The evidence of the miracles in the holy Scoan Church Nigeria, increase faith that lead to salvation of ones soul Jesus says to all pastors, Disciples, ministers and evangelists that humbly want spiritual enlightenment and the power of the Holy Spirit; Joh 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, He that believes me, the miracles/ WORKS that I do will you also do; and greater (more) miracles/WORKS than these shall you do; because I must soon go unto my Father. It is not their elaborate speeches, conferences and motivational speeches as is made clear in John 14:12. Only the WORKS bear witness of a real pastor. The Scoan Church web site correctly states that "There is not enough space to record the miraculous manifestation of God’s power in the life of Prophet T.B. Joshua. God’s river of life—salvation and all of God’s blessings—flow out from his innermost being to meet the needs of mankind. The miracles of Jesus Christ through Prophet T.B. Joshua are unlimited. They include the healing of HIV/AIDS, cancer, barrenness, deliverance from demonic spirits, restoration of sight to the blind, life to the limbs of the crippled and many others." What are these WORKS that Jesus always refer to ?They are the miracles, prophecy, signs and wonders. Jesus also instructs all pastors, ministers, evangelists to do the same. Jesus says to them,”As my father sent me, so send I you.” The whole world has been conned for hundreds of years. Now the world finally have a free education channel 24 hours a day, seven days a week on Emmanuel TV and Youtube demonstrating true scientifically verifiable evidence and deeper meaning of God's love for all humanity John 14:12 blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye Much needed blessings go to the following; hardmirror, jonbellion, akintom, coolusername, sirwere, Hahn, johnnydon22, Lennycool, benzics , Libradeus, lepasharon, otem, |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Holy Prophet TB Joshua Is More Than The Greatest Anointed Pastor Today ! by ScienceWatch(op): 11:44am On Apr 01, 2017 |
Greatzeus: You saith who am I to say another is fake,when I don't even know him,and have no evidence whatsoever. You see a christian with terminal disease criticizing healing ministers yet he goes to church everyday and comes back with his sickness  Not that healing takes one to heaven, but at least appreciate a good thing,so that it will come your way. Stop attributing God' s work to Satan. Jesus himself said that the healings etc is done to inspire FAITH so that we can glorify God. In the book of Revelation 20, the Revelation according to John heralded the coming of an Angel from Heaven having the Key to the bottomless pit and a Great Chain in his hand. The Angel according to Revelation 20 laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, which is the devil and Satan and bound him for a thousand years; and cast him into the bottomless pit and shut him up and set a seal on him so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. Now Just as the evil spirits bore true witness of Jesus’ true spirit nature as God’s begotten son, it has also been said by unclean spirits spoke up during deliverances at Scoan that the Holy Prophet TB Joshua moves around in the spiritual realm with a Great Long chain in his hand with which he disrupts demonic meetings, these demons flee on seeing him while some are eventually arrested and come under the restrictions of his spiritual chain. All these accounts suggest that the celestial being with a Great Chain in his hand prophesied in revelation 20 is fulfilled in the person of TB Joshua. [b]The whole world [/b]is grateful to Emmanuel TV and Youtube for the overwhelming verifiable evidence of Gods practical love for humanity as expressed by the mighty Jesus in the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Holy Prophet TB Joshua Is More Than The Greatest Anointed Pastor Today ! by ScienceWatch(op): 11:34am On Apr 01, 2017 |
Image123: Jokers all over. Yes the jokers are the FAKE pastors that can only give their innocent congregations MOTIVATIONAL SPEECHES about Jesus' healing, deliverance and material blessing. But these FAKE pastors have no POWER to demonstrate what they are talking about. INCREDIBLE[/b] ! Over 250 million followers world-wide of the Holy Scoan church Nigeria, confirm that the Miracle healing, deliverance and mind-blowing blessings are very real. The fact that millions of honest people of all walks of life are brave enough to stand up in public and proclaim that the mighty Jesus heals, delivers and blesses through the Holy Prophet TB Joshua is enough to shame the hateful doubters. These Satanic persons respond with hate, envy and jealousy just like the Jews did when Gods great love was practically demonstrated through miracle healing, evil spirit deliverance and material blessing. Their Satanic inspired hatred, envy and jealousy propel them to falsify the true meanings of Holy scriptures to deceive the masses and even the chosen ones. They find no joy in hearing millions of personal testimonies of mind-blowing instant healings etc. These Satanic inspired persons resent the millions that are miraculously healed, while they suffer at the hands of doctors and man-made medications with deadly bonus diseases/ side-effects etc. When the mighty Jesus heals using the hands of the Holy Prophet TB Joshua, why not shut-up and humble yourselves to learn what God is doing. It is the will of God that we experience His mighty miraculous POWER ! It is said about the Holy Prophet TB Joshua, that He is anointed beyond modern understanding. word says: greater miracles that Jesus commanded of all Chosen Pastors – inspiring different opinions about him, some call Him the younger brother of Jesus, others say he’s the Elijah of our Generation. Still others say He is the continuation of Jesus Christ – But the common thread that runs through all these opinions is the reference to Him as a certain unique being of celestial nature. But is there any truth in these claims?, are there enough proofs? Scripture itself and the millions of world-wide personal testimonies of mind-blowing scientifically verifiable results speak for itself. Who really is the Holy Prophet TB Joshua?The Truth is, nobody can authoritatively describe how TB Joshua’s journey on earth began or how it will end, neither can any human being actually comprehend TB Joshua’s autobiography or his mission on earth. Most human minds are too afraid of the shame the truth will reveal. This TRUTH will shame them. As a result, they fear other people more than God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 11:26am On Apr 01, 2017 |
oaroloye: My "COPY AND PASTE" is THE WORD OF GOD.
Which you evidently HATE, because you cannot quote a single verse to support your wicked views.
How is my thinking "skewed?"
I pointed out how YAHSHUA forbade his Disciples from raining death down on people, just because they did not show them love, and he explicitly stated that HE HAD NOT COME TO DESTROY MEN'S LIVES, BUT TO SAVE THEM.
Therefore, when PETER was presiding over the deaths of the two Brethren, it was THE SPIRIT OF SATAN that he was operating by YET AGAIN.
How can the situation be more clear?
How dare you call me an ATHEIST for CONFESSING THE WORDS OF THE LORD! INCREDIBLE[/b] ! Over 250 million followers world-wide of the Holy Scoan church Nigeria, confirm that the Miracle healing, deliverance and mind-blowing blessings are very real. The fact that millions of honest people of all walks of life are brave enough to stand up in public and proclaim that the mighty Jesus heals, delivers and blesses through the Holy Prophet TB Joshua is enough to shame the hateful doubters. These Satanic persons respond with hate, envy and jealousy just like the Jews did when Gods great love was practically demonstrated through miracle healing, evil spirit deliverance and material blessing. Their Satanic inspired hatred, envy and jealousy propel them to falsify the true meanings of Holy scriptures to deceive the masses and even the chosen ones. They find no joy in hearing millions of personal testimonies of mind-blowing instant healings etc. These Satanic inspired persons resent the millions that are miraculously healed, while they suffer at the hands of doctors and man-made medications with deadly bonus diseases/ side-effects etc. When the mighty Jesus heals using the hands of the Holy Prophet TB Joshua, why not shut-up and humble yourselves to learn what God is doing. It is the will of God that we experience His mighty miraculous POWER ! It is said about the Holy Prophet TB Joshua, that He is anointed beyond modern understanding. word says: greater miracles that Jesus commanded of all Chosen Pastors – inspiring different opinions about him, some call Him the younger brother of Jesus, others say he’s the Elijah of our Generation. Still others say He is the continuation of Jesus Christ – But the common thread that runs through all these opinions is the reference to Him as a certain unique being of celestial nature. But is there any truth in these claims?, are there enough proofs? Scripture itself and the millions of world-wide personal testimonies of mind-blowing scientifically verifiable results speak for itself. Who really is the Holy Prophet TB Joshua?The Truth is, nobody can authoritatively describe how TB Joshua’s journey on earth began or how it will end, neither can any human being actually comprehend TB Joshua’s autobiography or his mission on earth. Most human minds are too afraid of the shame the truth will reveal. This TRUTH will shame them. As a result, they fear other people more than God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 11:22am On Apr 01, 2017 |
JMAN05: Jesus didn't call it fake miracles and wonders as if it didn't happen. These false prophets will wrought real miracles that can be verified as having happened. But God is not their backer. Acts 16:16: Exod 7:11,12
With such miracles, you would think that God is backing him up, but you use the Bible to analyse any such persons. Act 17:11. INCREDIBLE ! Over 250 million followers world-wide of the Holy Scoan church Nigeria, confirm that the Miracle healing, deliverance and mind-blowing blessings are very real. The fact that millions of honest people of all walks of life are brave enough to stand up in public and proclaim that the mighty Jesus heals, delivers and blesses through the Holy Prophet TB Joshua is enough to shame the hateful doubters. These Satanic persons respond with hate, envy and jealousy just like the Jews did when Gods great love was practically demonstrated through miracle healing, evil spirit deliverance and material blessing. Their Satanic inspired hatred, envy and jealousy propel them to falsify the true meanings of Holy scriptures to deceive the masses and even the chosen ones. They find no joy in hearing millions of personal testimonies of mind-blowing instant healings etc. These Satanic inspired persons resent the millions that are miraculously healed, while they suffer at the hands of doctors and man-made medications with deadly bonus diseases/ side-effects etc. When the mighty Jesus heals using the hands of the Holy Prophet TB Joshua, why not shut-up and humble yourselves to learn what God is doing. It is the will of God that we experience His mighty miraculous POWER ! It is said about the Holy Prophet TB Joshua, that He is anointed beyond modern understanding. word says: greater miracles that Jesus commanded of all Chosen Pastors – inspiring different opinions about him, some call Him the younger brother of Jesus, others say he’s the Elijah of our Generation. Still others say He is the continuation of Jesus Christ – But the common thread that runs through all these opinions is the reference to Him as a certain unique being of celestial nature. But is there any truth in these claims?, are there enough proofs? Scripture itself and the millions of world-wide personal testimonies of mind-blowing scientifically verifiable results speak for itself. Who really is the Holy Prophet TB Joshua?The Truth is, nobody can authoritatively describe how TB Joshua’s journey on earth began or how it will end, neither can any human being actually comprehend TB Joshua’s autobiography or his mission on earth. Most human minds are too afraid of the shame the truth will reveal. This TRUTH will shame them. As a result, they fear other people more than God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 8:05pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
oaroloye: My "COPY AND PASTE" is THE WORD OF GOD.
Which you evidently HATE, because you cannot quote a single verse to support your wicked views.
How is my thinking "skewed?"
I pointed out how YAHSHUA forbade his Disciples from raining death down on people, just because they did not show them love, and he explicitly stated that HE HAD NOT COME TO DESTROY MEN'S LIVES, BUT TO SAVE THEM.
Therefore, when PETER was presiding over the deaths of the two Brethren, it was THE SPIRIT OF SATAN that he was operating by YET AGAIN.
How can the situation be more clear?
How dare you call me an ATHEIST for CONFESSING THE WORDS OF THE LORD! Can your opinion be trusted on lofty issues of scripture, when your readily skew my mention above. Read it again, I never said you are an Atheist! You are a prime candidate for Atheism because of your nonsensical opinions on scripture. You can copy and paste thousands of scriptures but your own interpretations are terribly skewed. |
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oaroloye: My "COPY AND PASTE" is THE WORD OF GOD.
Which you evidently HATE, because you cannot quote a single verse to support your wicked views.
How is my thinking "skewed?"
I pointed out how YAHSHUA forbade his Disciples from raining death down on people, just because they did not show them love, and he explicitly stated that HE HAD NOT COME TO DESTROY MEN'S LIVES, BUT TO SAVE THEM.
Therefore, when PETER was presiding over the deaths of the two Brethren, it was THE SPIRIT OF SATAN that he was operating by YET AGAIN.
How can the situation be more clear?
How dare you call me an ATHEIST for CONFESSING THE WORDS OF THE LORD! |
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With a brain like this you should be replacing Richard Dawkins very soon. Best of luck [quote author=hahn post=55132774][/quote] |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 2:31pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
You will do well to only copy and paste. Your own opinions are confusing. oaroloye: SOBER? YOU were NOT "sobered."
You are DRUNK!
You haven't committed THE SAME SIN Ananias and Sapphira were ACCUSED of?
Let me REFRESH your MEMORY?
[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9.
4. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5. And thou shalt love The LORD thy God with all thine Heart, and with all thy Soul, and with all thy Might. 6. And These Words, Which I Command thee this Day, shall be in thine heart: 7. And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy Children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9. And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.
ARE YOU CLAIING THAT YOU HAVE SERVED GOD WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART, ALL OF YOUR SOUL, AND ALL OF YOUR MIGHT?
Never holding ANYTHING back?
BULLSHIT!
If that were so, you would be SUPERHUMAN by now!
You do not even use 10% of your MIND!
You could not even REMEMBER the Scriptures Peter and the so-called Apostles VIOLATED!
You did not even have the MIGHT to COPY & PASTE Scriptures YOU THINK support your case.
There is NO EVIDENCE that you even had the MIGHT to THINK of any, at all!
Yet you EAGERLY PASS JUDGMENT on TWO DISPOSABLE BRETHREN, who had committed NO CAPITAL SIN.
[color=silver].[/color] EXODUS 22:1-4.
"IF a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. 2. "If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. 3. "If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. 4. "If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep; he shall restore double."
IF PEOPLE LIKE ANANIAS HAD TO DIE- FOR THIS SORT OF DEED- WHICH IS PRACTICALLY NOTHING- WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE PUNISHMENT FOR KILLING THE SON OF GOD?
. LUKE 23:33-34.
33. And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left. 34. Then said Jesus,
"Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."
And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SEE, TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE GOATS AND YAHSHUA DID NOT REPRESENT THE SAME GOD?
What should have been the punishment for LYING TO THE SON OF GOD?
[color=silver].[/color] MARK 14:27-31.[color]
[color=#990000]27. And Jesus saith unto them, "All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written,[color]
[color=#006600]'I WILL SMITE THE SHEPHERD, AND THE SHEEP SHALL BE SCATTERED.'
28. "But after that I am risen, I will go before you into Galilee." 29. But Peter said unto him, "Although all shall be offended, yet will not I." 30. And Jesus saith unto him, "Verily I say unto thee,[color]
[color=#006600]'THAT THIS DAY, EVEN IN THIS NIGHT, BEFORE THE COCK CROW TWICE, THOU SHALT DENY ME THRICE.' "
31. But he spake the more vehemently, "If I should die with thee, I will not deny thee in any wise." Likewise also said they all.[color]
GAINSAYING THE WORDS OF A PROPHET OF GOD SPEAKING FROM GOD IS A VERY SERIOUS SIN!
But the "APOSTLES" did it, shamelessly!
[color=silver]. MARK 14:50.
50. And they all forsook him, and fled.
Yahshua didn't strike them all dead!
He didn't strike ANY of them dead!
He didn't even strike JUDAS dead.
When Peter removed the EAR of one of the attackers, YAHSHUA said: "THAT'S NOT RIGHT!" and put it back!
Didn't MALCHUS deserve to go through life without an ear for what he did?
Yahshua didn't think so!
The Church was evidently NOT ALLOWED to KNOW all these things- or else, how could they have STOOD for this sort of nonsense?
[color=silver].[/color] ACTS 7:55-60.
55. But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into Heaven, and saw The Glory of God, and Jesus standing on the Right Hand of God, 56. And said, "Behold, I see the Heavens opened, and The Son of Man standing on the Right Hand of God." 57. Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, 58. And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul. 59. And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying,
"Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."
60. And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice,
"Lord, lay not this sin to their charge."
And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
DEACON STEPHEN WAS DESCRIBED BY LUKE AS BEING "FULL OF FAITH."
Why couldn't he use his FULL-OF-FAITH to DEFLECT the stones?
A Brethren in the INDONESIAN REVIVAL OF 1965 experienced that, according to MEL TARI.
[See: LIKE A MIGHTY WIND, by Mel Tari.]
They tried to stone this Brother for preaching The Gospel- and the stones went to two feet of him, then REBOUNDED, like they HIT SOME BARRIER!
YAHSHUA SAID:
[color=silver].[/color] LUKE 10:17-24.
17. And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, "Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us through thy Name." 18. And he said unto them, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven. 19. "Behold, I give unto you Power to tread on Serpents and Scorpions, and over all the Power of the Enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." 20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your Names are written in Heaven." 21. In that Hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, "I thank thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and Earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in Thy Sight. 22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and Who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him." 23. And he turned him unto his Disciples, and said privately, "Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see: 24. "For I tell you,
'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS HAVE DESIRED TO SEE THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE, AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM; AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS WHICH YE HEAR, AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' "
I should feel HONOURED to know that MY Understanding of The Bible is considered "CHILDISH!"
LITTLE CHILDREN'S AWARENESS accesses ALL EIGHT LEVELS OF LIFE- until they are taught to keep it on the LOWEST level.
It is "ADULTS" who learn how to LIE against THE WORD OF GOD.
[color=silver].[/color] ACTS 6:1-6.
AND in those days, when the number of the Disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. 2. Then the Twelve called the multitude of the Disciples unto them, and said,
"It is not reason that we should leave The Word of God, and serve tables. 3. "Wherefore, Brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and Wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business. 4. "But we will give ourselves continually to Prayer, and to the Ministry of The Word."
5. And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of Faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch: 6. Whom they set before the Apostles: and when they had prayed, they laid their hands on them.
WHAT HAPPENED TO "NO ONE LACKED FOR ANY THING, BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE DONATING THEIR STUFF?"
They KILLED two of their BEST DONORS on an UNVERIFIED ACCUSATION!
LESSON! LEARNED!
So now they experienced SHORTAGES!
Also, THE "APOSTLES" suddenly decided that THEY WERE "TOO BIG" to SERVE TABLES!
Yahshua had TAUGHT THEM how to feed THOUSANDS of people with ONE KID'S FOOD (a thing which also happened during the INDONESIAN REVIVAL,) but they were NOT WILLING to do that. Instead, they engaged in BOGUS PRAYING, while they CONSPIRED TOGETHER to DEPRIVE THE CHURCH of THE TRUTH.
After PETER and PAUL died about 60AD, the first GOSPELS were able to see the light of day, and people could see what liars the Apostles were.
STEPHEN WAS A PARTY TO THAT DECEPTION- therefore, when he needed YAHSHUA to SAVE HIM- the Power was not there- because HE GAVE THAT UP, when he CONSENTED to the DEATHS of ANANIAS and SAPPHIRA!
Was praying a mealy-mouthed prayer for the forgiveness of people STONING HIM TO DEATH- whereas he could not pray the SAME MERCY for two people accused of WITHHOLDING MONEY AND LYING ABOUT IT.
What were the people STONING HIM TO DEATH withholding?
What was HE withholding?
[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 7:1-6.
"JUDGE not, that ye be not judged. 2. "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3. "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother,
'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE OUT OF THINE EYE;'
and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5. "Thou Hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 6. "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."
[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 28:16-20.
16. Then the eleven Disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17. And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, "All Power is given unto me in Heaven and in Earth. 19. "Go ye therefore, and Teach all nations, baptizing them in The Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20. "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have Commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto The End of The World." Amen.
[color=silver].[/color] JOHN 8:51-53.
51. "Verily, verily, I say unto you,
'IF A MAN KEEP MY SAYING, HE SHALL NEVER SEE DEATH.' "
52. Then said the Jews unto him, "Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the Prophets; and thou sayest,
'IF A MAN KEEP MY SAYING, HE SHALL NEVER TASTE OF DEATH.'
53. "Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the Prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?"
SINCE THE DISCIPLES DID NOT TEACH EVERYTHING YAHSHUA HAD COMMANDED THEM, THEY COULD NOT CLAIM THE POWER OVER DEATH THAT HE HAD LEFT THEM.
[color=silver].[/color] JOHN 14:12.
12. "Verily, verily, I say unto you,
'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME, THE WORKS THAT I DO SHALL HE DO ALSO;'
and greater (Works) than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."
BELIEVERS ON YAHSHUA DO THE WORKS OF YAHSHUA.
What could be simpler? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 2:17pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
ScienceWatch: Your copy and paste make some sense but your own thinking is very skewed. You make an ideal candidate for Atheism. HAHN will welcome you warmly. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 2:11pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Your copy and paste make some sense but your own thinking is very skewed. You make an ideal candidate for Atheism. HAHN will welcome you warmly. oaroloye: SHALOM!
You pompously presume that you know what you are talking about.
Whereas, you talk like an adult who grew up as a child who hated discipline. knowI believe that The Holy Ghost left the Building at that juncture.
Whatever Religion they were practicing, it was no longer CHRISTIANITY.
[color=silver].[/color] LUKE 9:51-56.
51. And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, 52. And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. 53. And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. 54. And when his Disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, wilt thou that we command Fire to come down from Heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?" 55. But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, "Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56. "For the Son of Man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them." And they went to another village.
Your Dictionary is WRONG: the authors and publishers did not know what they were talking about- because they did not have "HOLINESS" in their own Church- presuming that they have a church.
[color=silver].[/color] REVELATION 22:11.
11. "He that is UNJUST, let him be Unjust still: and he which is FILTHY, let him be Filthy still: and he that is RIGHTEOUS, let him be Righteous still: and he that is HOLY, let him be Holy still."
HOLINESS IS AN INTENSITY OF SPIRITUAL ENERGY- THE ABILITY TO DO SPIRITUAL WORKS.
There are FOUR such intensities- as seen by SEERS, who have the Power to not only see Spiritual Energies, but also differentiate between the various types. This is attained by extreme Discipline and Dedication.
SPIRITUAL ENERGY IS LIFE.
There are EIGHT LEVELS of it.
The Earth has the lowest level- which pertains to the Animals, Plants, and Insects of the Earth.
The seven Heaven Universes each have their own level, and their own Spirit of God Which pertains to that Heaven, and is the Ruling Power over It.
These Spirits do not come to Earth, unless they are summoned there by the deployment of Heavenly Law.
[color=silver].[/color] 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9.
9. "For The Eyes of The LORD run to and fro throughout the whole Earth, to shew Himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward Him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars."
[color=silver].[/color] AMOS 3:3.
3. "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"
[color=silver].[/color] ZECHARIAH 4:10.
10. For who hath despised the Day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are The Eyes of The LORD, Which run to and fro through the whole Earth.
[color=silver].[/color] REVELATION 4:5.
5. And out of The Throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven Lamps of Fire burning before The Throne, which are The Seven Spirits of God.
THE OYINBO-FOLLOWERS HAVE NOT TAUGHT YOU ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WHOEVER OF THEM KNOW ABOUT IT DO NOT TEACH IT PUBLICLY.
The Spirits must be acquired sequentially, or else you run the risk of rupturing your Soul Body.
[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 9:16-17.
16. "No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse. 17. "Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved."
THE INSANITY IN CHRISTIANITY IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO PEOPLE GETTING THE EIGHT SPIRITS MUDDLED UP- WHEREBY THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE THINKING, SAYING, NOR DOING- BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT EVERY WORD OF GOD IS EQUAL.
[color=silver].[/color] 2nd PETER 1:5-9.
5. And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your Faith Virtue; and to virtue Knowledge; 6. And to knowledge Temperance; and to temperance Patience; and to patience Godliness; 7. And to godliness Brotherly Kindness; and to brotherly kindness Charity. 8. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the Knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9. But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
PETER CYNICALLY SHARED THIS WITH THE CHURCH, KNOWING THAT WE COULD NEVER ACHIEVE IT, BECAUSE HE WAS BLOCKING EVERYONE ELSE FROM KNOWING YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS.
This violates the Commandments of Yahshua, which say:
[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 6:1-4.
"TAKE heed that ye do not your Alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no Reward of your Father Which is in Heaven. 2. "Therefore when thou doest thine Alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the Hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, 'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'
3. "But when thou doest Alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: 4. "That thine Alms may be in Secret: and thy Father Which seeth in Secret Himself shall Reward thee openly."
This is what some person named LUKE says happened.
WHAT WAS HIS SOURCE OF INFORMATION?
There was NEVER any PROOF that Ananias and Sapphira committed the SUPPOSED offense that they were ACCUSED of.
HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?
[color=silver].[/color] EXODUS 23:1-3.
"THOU shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the Wicked to be an Unrighteous Witness. 2. "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do Evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest Judgment: 3. "Neither shalt thou countenance a poor man in his cause."
"THE BIBLE SAID IT HAPPENED THAT WAY- SO IT MUST BE TRUE!"
That is called "DECLINING AFTER A MULTITUDE TO WREST JUDGMENT!"
A RIGHTEOUS MAN asks for EVIDENCE before condemning someone of a CAPITAL CRIME!
Now, if only there could have been some CORROBORATING WITNESSES to CONFIRM whether the amount brought was the amount UNLAWFULLY-PROMISED- when DONATIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SECRET...!
[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 17:6-7.
6. At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death. 7. The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the Evil away from among you.
YEAH- THERE WAS THE WIFE- SHE COULD HAVE CONFIRMED WHETHER THE HUSBAND ACTUALLY BROUGHT THE ACTUAL SUM OF MONEY THEY SHOULD HAVE DONATED!
Oh- HER testimony was THROWN OUT- because it was ALREADY DECIDED that she was GUILTY-AS-CHARGED!
[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 5:16-20.
16. “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your Good Works, and glorify your Father Which is in Heaven. 17. "Think not that I am come to destroy The Law, or The Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18. "For verily I say unto you,
'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'
19. "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least Commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called The Least in The Kingdom of Heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach Them, the same shall be called Great in The Kingdom of Heaven. 20. "For I say unto you,
'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL EXCEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES, YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' "
SO- YOU THINK THAT THAT IS THE SORT OF JUSTICE THAT YAHSHUA'S GOSPEL TEACHES?
Is that the sort of MERCY and FORGIVENESS that YAHSHUA Preached his whole Ministry?
[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 25:13-16.
13. Thou shalt not have in thy bag divers weights, a great and a small. 14. Thou shalt not have in thine house divers measures, a great and a small. 15. But thou shalt have a perfect and just weight, a perfect and just measure shalt thou have: that thy days may be lengthened in the Land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 16. For all that do such things, and all that do unrighteously, are an Abomination unto the LORD thy God.
MOSES TRICKED THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL INTO KILLING THEMSELVES WITH UNEQUAL JUDGMENTS.
He told them that they could KILL THEIR BRETHREN, whom they left Egypt with together- for their perceived "CAPITAL SINS," and take their stuff.
FORTY YEARS LATER, he CONFESSED to the SURVIVORS "HOW I KILLED YOUR PARENTS:" but he did it so cleverly, that they never realized what he had done to them. They went on to commit the same mistakes, while Moses moved on.
[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 18:15-35.
15. "Moreover if thy Brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy Brother. 16. "But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17. "And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the Church: but if he neglect to hear the Church, let him be unto thee as an Heathen man and a publican. 18. "Verily I say unto you,
'WHATSOEVER YE SHALL BIND ON EARTH SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN: AND WHATSOEVER YE SHALL LOOSE ON EARTH SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.'
19. "Again I say unto you,
'THAT IF TWO OF YOU SHALL AGREE ON EARTH AS TOUCHING ANY THING THAT THEY SHALL ASK, IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM OF MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'
20. "For where two or three are gathered together in my Name, there am I in the midst of them." 21. Then came Peter to him, and said, "Lord, how oft shall my Brother Sin against me, and I forgive him? Till seven times?" 22. Jesus saith unto him, "I say not unto thee,
'UNTIL SEVEN TIMES:' BUT, 'UNTIL SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN.'
23. "Therefore is the Kingdom of Heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. 24. "And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. 25. "But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. 26. "The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying,
'LORD, HAVE PATIENCE WITH ME, AND I WILL PAY THEE ALL.'
27. "Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. 28. "But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying,
'PAY ME THAT THOU OWEST.'
29. "And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying,
'HAVE PATIENCE WITH ME, AND I WILL PAY THEE ALL.'
30. "And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. 31. "So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. 32. "Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him,
'O THOU WICKED SERVANT, I FORGAVE THEE ALL THAT DEBT, BECAUSE THOU DESIREDST ME: 33. 'SHOULDEST NOT THOU ALSO HAVE HAD COMPASSION ON THY FELLOWSERVANT, EVEN AS I HAD PITY ON THEE?'
34. "And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the Tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him." 35. "So likewise shall my Heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his Brother their Trespasses."
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE RIGHT OF A BROTHER TO A PRIVATE HEARING, WHERE HIS FAULT IS PUT BEFORE HIM?
Who were the TWO OR THREE other Brethren who entreated Ananias, before PETER dropped the NUKE on his head?
When did KILLING become part of The Gospel?
How can THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST kill? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 2:46pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
JMAN05: Oga, if you are not serious, let me know. I have been quoting the scriptures that support my point, and you keep asking how i reach the conclusion. Be serious dude! Yes I am serious ! You loose focus when you confuse the commands Jesus gave to his pastors/disciples and the teachings he shared with the masses. Would you have the same discussions with your general workers that you have with your management team ? Oaroloye sums up the question about demonic healing and deliverance up very neatly ; And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them,"Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his Kingdom stand? Wow, this puts and end to the many false doctrines designed by FAKE pastors to block those that want to enter into the LIGHT, from entering because those pastors themselves have not entered. blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 2:27pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
JMAN05: All that God wants or what He requires from His servants are His will. Those who do what God requires, are doing His will. Read James 1:22; 1john 5:3; Rom 2:13. (Read them this time and stop asking me the basis for my conclusion).
I have posted from the scriptures what a good pastor/shepherd should be recognized with, did you read those or you just crossed over? Do you agree with what Gods word has to say on the matter?
2. You said that Jesus words implied that the pastors were not doing what a true pastor should do, heal, deliver and bless. Can I see where a scripture supports this as the identity of a true pastor?
Secondly, the persons who shout to Jesus stated that they healed and performed miracle in Christ's name. (Matt 7:21, 22) How would you reconcile that with the scriptures when in fact they said they performed miracles using Christ's name?
In other words, you said Christ commanded them to heal, and these people in matt 7:21,22 said they did that, even in Christ's name, so why would they be condemned? Haven't they done what a true pastor should do? Let us cut to the chase, and not mice words ! Jesus said, "As my Father sent me, so send I you, " It is the will of the Father/God that all that comes to the Messiah is healed, delivered and blessed. All these things are part and parcel of God's promises, This is the unified GOSPEL ! The Gospel is not what FAKE pastors are serving their innocent congregations. FAKE pastors only have words to give to the suffering at a very high financial cost. Who would prefer a course on the theory of Cooking over a practical Cooking course ? Who would prefer a 5 year course on the theory of Motor Mechanics over a five year practical course ? Who would prefer a three year degree in Theology/ theory over a 3 year practical course in healing, deliverance and blessing ? Jesus gave his disciples a practical course in healing, deliverance and blessing. blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 2:08pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
oaroloye: I AM NO FAN OF TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA- let me say that up-front.
I have not studied his Ministry in any detail.
I have heard allegations against him- but I have heard nothing credible.
This allegation is credible to me, for certain technical reasons I will specify.
There are THREE MODES OF HUMAN AWARENESS:
1. FIRST ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Atheist- with no Spiritual Perception whatsoever.
2. SECOND ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Mortal Mystic.
3. THIRD ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Immortals- allowing them safe perception of what will kill Mortals.
IT IS HARD FOR THE LAZY, COWARDLY, OR SELF-IMPORTANT TO GET OUT OF FIRST ATTENTION.
They will not do what it takes.
Therefore, such people, wanting to be "MYSTIC MEN," look for SHORTCUTS.
DRUGS can enable one's ASSEMBLAGE POINT to MOVE ONCE- then, when it has returned to NORMAL, one uses WILLPOWER and DISCIPLINE to repeat the shift, and then find other Assemblage Points.
Many Oyinbos decided that DRUGS are essential to moving their Assemblage Points, and seek the sensations of the "TRIPS" for their own sake. This is damaging to their BODY, and can cause their untimely death.
A person whose ASSEMBLAGE POINT has moved can induce another person's Assemblage Point to move to match their's BY PHYSICAL CONTACT. As in LAYING-ON-OF-HANDS.
The person whose Assemblage Point has so moved STILL HAS A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF THEM.
They could not have done anything, without the "KICK-START" of the Layer-On-of-Hands.
But it could be UNFAIR for them to CLAIM ALL OF THE CREDIT.
That is not what Yahshua said.
[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 12:22-37.
22. Then was brought unto him one possessed with a Devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. 23. And all the people were amazed, and said, "Is not this the son of David?" 24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This fellow doth not cast out Devils, but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils." 25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his Kingdom stand? 27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils, by whom do your children cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28. "But if I cast out Devils by The Spirit of God, then The Kingdom of God is come unto you. 29. "Or else how can one enter into a Strong Man's House, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the Strong Man? And then he will spoil his House. 30. "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 31. "Wherefore I say unto you,
'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN: BUT THE BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN.'
32. "And whosoever speaketh a Word against The Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this World, neither in the World to come. 33. "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34. "O Generation of Vipers, how can ye, being Evil, speak Good Things? For out of the Abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35. "A Good Man out of the Good Treasure of the heart bringeth forth Good Things: and an Evil Man out of the Evil Treasure bringeth forth Evil Things. 36.But I say unto you,
'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK, THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'
37. "For by thy Words thou shalt be Justified, and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."
HE MERELY SAID THAT IF SATAN IS CASTING OUT SATAN, HIS "KINGDOM COME" IS NOW "KINGDOM DONE!"
So, if the DEVILS are now playing "MUSICAL-CHAIRS" with one another, it is because their Kingdom is FINISHED.
KENNETH ERWIN HAGIN taught me everything I know about FAITH.
He had a UNIQUE HEALING POWER, given to him by Jesus in front of the THRONE OF GOD in Heaven.
This Power ONLY Healed those who HEARD Hus Testimony of going to Heaven with Jesus, AND BELIEVED IT.
There was a time when he stopped Healing with that Gift, to lay more emphasis on THE BIBLE.
He slipped and fell, and fractured his arm.
"JESUS" walked audibly and tangibly into his hospital ward, and informed him that HE HAD ALLOWED the accident to PUNISH him for NOT USING THE VISION! THEREFORE, "JESUS" told him, his arm would NEVER be 100% again!
He would, however, accelerate his Healing better than Doctors expected.
They told him that he would NEVER be able to touch his shoulder on that arm- but he did.
A Brethren who went to his CAMPMEETING heard a side to the Testimony that was not in the BOOKS, nor the TAPES:
Whenever he was hpgetting out if the "PERFECT WILL OF GOD," he would know, because HIS ARM WOULD BEGIN TO HURT HIM!
The more I thought about it, the more it seemed to me: "THAT IS NOT THE JESUS OF THE BIBLE!"
THE BOOK OF ACTS 5:2-11 IS NOT HOLY. Why do you insist on dealing with lofty spiritual things like a child that hate discipline ? Whether you want to enter deeper into the Dark side or the Light side, there is a heavy price to pay. Your claim that the Book of Acts is not Holy because of your faulty interpretation of ACTS 5:2-11 is extremely childish. The book of Acts is holy ! See the definition of holy below ; adjective : dedicated or consecrated to God or a religious purpose; sacred. "the Holy Bible" synonyms: sacred, consecrated, hallowed, sanctified, venerated, revered, reverenced, divine, religious, blessed, blessed, dedicated Act 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, Act 4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. Act 5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, Act 5:2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part. These two people made a promise to God, then they did what too many people do when they think no one is watching. It is sobering to know that God saw fit to strike this sinful couple down for the benefit of those that gave what they cherished most toward the greatest mission in the world. blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 1:39pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
oaroloye: I AM NO FAN OF TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA- let me say that up-front.
I have not studied his Ministry in any detail.
I have heard allegations against him- but I have heard nothing credible.
This allegation is credible to me, for certain technical reasons I will specify.
There are THREE MODES OF HUMAN AWARENESS:
1. FIRST ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Atheist- with no Spiritual Perception whatsoever.
2. SECOND ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Mortal Mystic.
3. THIRD ATTENTION: The Awareness of the Immortals- allowing them safe perception of what will kill Mortals.
IT IS HARD FOR THE LAZY, COWARDLY, OR SELF-IMPORTANT TO GET OUT OF FIRST ATTENTION.
They will not do what it takes.
Therefore, such people, wanting to be "MYSTIC MEN," look for SHORTCUTS.
DRUGS can enable one's ASSEMBLAGE POINT to MOVE ONCE- then, when it has returned to NORMAL, one uses WILLPOWER and DISCIPLINE to repeat the shift, and then find other Assemblage Points.
Many Oyinbos decided that DRUGS are essential to moving their Assemblage Points, and seek the sensations of the "TRIPS" for their own sake. This is damaging to their BODY, and can cause their untimely death.
A person whose ASSEMBLAGE POINT has moved can induce another person's Assemblage Point to move to match their's BY PHYSICAL CONTACT. As in LAYING-ON-OF-HANDS.
The person whose Assemblage Point has so moved STILL HAS A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF THEM.
They could not have done anything, without the "KICK-START" of the Layer-On-of-Hands.
But it could be UNFAIR for them to CLAIM ALL OF THE CREDIT.
That is not what Yahshua said.
[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 12:22-37.
22. Then was brought unto him one possessed with a Devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. 23. And all the people were amazed, and said, "Is not this the son of David?" 24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This fellow doth not cast out Devils, but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils." 25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his Kingdom stand? 27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils, by whom do your children cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28. "But if I cast out Devils by The Spirit of God, then The Kingdom of God is come unto you. 29. "Or else how can one enter into a Strong Man's House, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the Strong Man? And then he will spoil his House. 30. "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 31. "Wherefore I say unto you,
'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN: BUT THE BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN.'
32. "And whosoever speaketh a Word against The Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this World, neither in the World to come. 33. "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34. "O Generation of Vipers, how can ye, being Evil, speak Good Things? For out of the Abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35. "A Good Man out of the Good Treasure of the heart bringeth forth Good Things: and an Evil Man out of the Evil Treasure bringeth forth Evil Things. 36.But I say unto you,
'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK, THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'
37. "For by thy Words thou shalt be Justified, and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."
HE MERELY SAID THAT IF SATAN IS CASTING OUT SATAN, HIS "KINGDOM COME" IS NOW "KINGDOM DONE!"
So, if the DEVILS are now playing "MUSICAL-CHAIRS" with one another, it is because their Kingdom is FINISHED.
KENNETH ERWIN HAGIN taught me everything I know about FAITH.
He had a UNIQUE HEALING POWER, given to him by Jesus in front of the THRONE OF GOD in Heaven.
This Power ONLY Healed those who HEARD Hus Testimony of going to Heaven with Jesus, AND BELIEVED IT.
There was a time when he stopped Healing with that Gift, to lay more emphasis on THE BIBLE.
He slipped and fell, and fractured his arm.
"JESUS" walked audibly and tangibly into his hospital ward, and informed him that HE HAD ALLOWED the accident to PUNISH him for NOT USING THE VISION! THEREFORE, "JESUS" told him, his arm would NEVER be 100% again!
He would, however, accelerate his Healing better than Doctors expected.
They told him that he would NEVER be able to touch his shoulder on that arm- but he did.
A Brethren who went to his CAMPMEETING heard a side to the Testimony that was not in the BOOKS, nor the TAPES:
Whenever he was hpgetting out if the "PERFECT WILL OF GOD," he would know, because HIS ARM WOULD BEGIN TO HURT HIM!
The more I thought about it, the more it seemed to me: "THAT IS NOT THE JESUS OF THE BIBLE!"
THE BOOK OF ACTS 5:2-11 IS NOT HOLY. Are you a member of the dreaded Jewish controlled PNF (Pentecostal Fellowship) ? The PNF also rudely refer to the Holy Prophet TB Joshua the way you do. I wish to say from the start that I am not a fan of bronchitis ridden SCIENTOLOGY. I have regrettably studied Scientology in detail and find all the accusations against it credible. This study was an extreme waste of my time. Scientology has nothing unique, just a load of copy and paste from older established doctrines, but with no POWER. What is verifiable and most credible is Jesus' statement that you qoute in 26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his Kingdom stand? You also wisely quote, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: A stunning statement made by the mighty Jesus to all pastors renders it impossible for a fake pastor to deceive a true Christian. Jesus said, "As my Father sent me, so send I you." The great love of God for His creation is revealed through the healing, deliverance and blessing combined. Only satanic fake pastors will insist that grand speeches is what the mighty Jesus commanded them to give to the suffering masses. blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 1:26pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
JMAN05: I ve not argued that as at the first century, when the congregation/church was in its infancy, that miracle was not a proof of God's backing. It was, it was ONE of the way God showed that he had shifted His attention from the then Jewich system to the Christian Congregation.
However, this miracle was essential in its infancy, not when the 'church' is grown as it were. 1cor 13:8-13. Neither does such miracles indicate that demons cannot perform such miracles, even in Christ's name. I have given a scripture for this position. John the baptist who bore witness about Jesus himself didnt perform any such miracle as Jesus did. This didnt mean his works were wicked. Something important must be considered here. You say that the miracles Jesus and his pastors/disciples did was "ONE of the ways God showed that he had shifted His attention from the then Jewish system to the Christian Congregation." How did you come to that terrible conclusion ? You go on to claim that, "the miracles was essential in the churches infancy, but not when the 'church' is grown up." I am grieved now ! How did you come to that shocking conclusion ? I sense that you wish to continue and grieve the Holy Ghost in this matter when you contradict what the mighty Jesus himself said. But you insist in your folly when you say, "Neither does such miracles indicate that demons cannot perform such miracles, even in Christ's name." Can you as a demon possessed person really deliver evil spirits in the name of Jesus ? How do you come to your conclusions ? Help me understand. blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 1:06pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
JMAN05: Read that Acts 16:16-17 and see if someone who was advancing other people's business (no doubt the business men would be happy when she does this) will not start to feel unhappy. why? dont you think that she would earn a fortune from the venture?
2. Jesus statement reviewed the true identity of a man of God. He stated there that such one does the will of God. Matt 7:21
He will go forth, not stay in a pulpit, and do what Jesus did, preach. matt 28:19-20.
He should not be called pastor. no such titile should he bear. It would be a stretch for him to be called "Daddy". Matt 23:8-10
He should not assume a position of spiritual head. nope, that is occupied by christ alone. matt 23:10-11. Eph 5:23
The shepherding of the church is not occupied by one man called pastor, they should be many shepherds/pastors overseeing the running of the church, all having equal right. 1Pet 5:2: Acts 20:28
They should meet the qualifications outlined at 1tim 3:1-7. none of such should be there weakness.
Their teachings should be based on the bible, not man made rules. John 17:17.
Though 'pastors', they are not more important than the flock they shepherd. They should rather be least of the church. Those special treatment of calling daddy, wearing special garment is rubbish. matt 23:11, 12. james 2:1-4
Let me stop here for now. You always refer to the "Doing the will of the Father" but you dont bother to define it. Please define it so we can know what you mean. When Jesus said the following in Mat 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven." Jesus was simply stating a fact that we see every day. Many people shout Lord, Lord in church but they lives that contradict the "Will of the Father." In the same way not every pastor is recognized in heaven because they dont do what Jesus commanded every pastor to do. That is heal, deliver and bless. It can never be done by a fake pastor. The wheat is always separated from the Chaff. The FAKE pastors are now separated from the TRUE pastors. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 12:55pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
JMAN05: Satan is not working against himself by casting away demons, he is rather perpetuating a fraud. (2cor 11:14). Jesus statement cannot be understood that way. Jesus was in effect stating that Satan cannot employ him, give him power to perform miracle because, he Jesus is on a mission to end the works of the devil. If satan does so, he would be divided against himself. His kingdom will fall. You can only use someone who is on ur side for your deception, not someone against u.
Jesus meant his word when he said that people will cast demons using his name, yet he is not their backer.
If you ve not known, you should have atleast heard in nigeria, where different witch doctors would fight against each other for there individual clients. The devil will approve this to advance his fraud, not that he doesnt know what he is doing. Why do you repeat the same deception over and over ? You know that the FAKE Jewish pastors said to Jesus that He is casting out/ delivering the demons by Satanic means. What did Jesus say to those FAKE Jewish pastors ? Now why do you continue to use scriptures in a contradictory manner ? You are a prime suspect for Atheism. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 12:47pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
JMAN05: Satan is not working against himself by casting away demons, he is rather perpetuating a fraud. (2cor 11:14). Jesus statement cannot be understood that way. Jesus was in effect stating that Satan cannot employ him, give him power to perform miracle because, he Jesus is on a mission to end the works of the devil. If satan does so, he would be divided against himself. His kingdom will fall. You can only use someone who is on ur side for your deception, not someone against u.
Jesus meant his word when he said that people will cast demons using his name, yet he is not their backer.
If you ve not known, you should have atleast heard in nigeria, where different witch doctors would fight against each other for there individual clients. The devil will approve this to advance his fraud, not that he doesnt know what he is doing. Satan can not work against his plan to destroy all that is good in life. Do you research ! Dont interpret scripture only from your own understanding. This is a dangerous habit that FAKE pastor have. Go and find just one spiritualist[/b]and ask if the people are healed or blessed. If the spiritualist is honest, He/she will say that it only seems to work for a short time and then the persons problems is worst than before. They will also have more demonic spirits active in their life which increase every time they go for more help. Satan can not help us. That is not his work.
[b]I agree with you that Satan can appear as a spirit of light in the same way a fake pastor can appear as true pastor to ignorant worshippers. Thank God that a FAKE pastor can never do what a truly anointed pastor can do. Jesus said that we will know a true pastor by his WORKS. What are these WORKS ? Please dont say teaching / Talking ! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 11:29am On Mar 20, 2017*. Modified: 12:03pm On Mar 20, 2017 |
JMAN05: Read that Acts 16:16-17 and see if someone who was advancing other people's business (no doubt the business men would be happy when she does this) will not start to feel unhappy. why? dont you think that she would earn a fortune from the venture?
2. Jesus statement reviewed the true identity of a man of God. He stated there that such one does the will of God. Matt 7:21
He will go forth, not stay in a pulpit, and do what Jesus did, preach. matt 28:19-20.
He should not be called pastor. no such titile should he bear. It would be a stretch for him to be called "Daddy". Matt 23:8-10
He should not assume a position of spiritual head. nope, that is occupied by christ alone. matt 23:10-11. Eph 5:23
The shepherding of the church is not occupied by one man called pastor, they should be many shepherds/pastors overseeing the running of the church, all having equal right. 1Pet 5:2: Acts 20:28
They should meet the qualifications outlined at 1tim 3:1-7. none of such should be there weakness.
Their teachings should be based on the bible, not man made rules. John 17:17.
Though 'pastors', they are not more important than the flock they shepherd. They should rather be least of the church. Those special treatment of calling daddy, wearing special garment is rubbish. matt 23:11, 12. james 2:1-4
Let me stop here for now. Well written sir ! If you dont mind, we should examine the scripture you pointed to Mat 28:19 In this scripture the mighty Jesus clearly says, "Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: I see you wrongly emphasize "teach" only. This is the great deception ! This command Jesus gave after the resurrection, so He instructed them to teach and baptize. Not the baptism done in thousands of church where there is no power. When you have authority to baptize, the Holy Ghost fills the person that is baptized with POWER. POWER to heal. POWER to deliver. POWER to bless. Do you see that power when todays fake pastors/disciples do baptism ? No No ! Many scriptures can be extracted to suit our own agender. Actions speak louder than words. Talk is cheap ! Fake pastors always claim that miracles were only for the 1st century to deceive the people and cover up their own weakness. That is why the mighty Jesus said in John 14:12 A Disciple/pastor, minister will be known by their WORKS which is without any doubt the combination of miracles, signs and wonders) so that fake pastors can be separated from the real pastors. The wheat is separated from the chaff. Jesus himself said in John 17:18 What I was sent into the world to do, I also send them(Disciples/pastors) into the world to do the same. John 5:20 For the true God loves the Son, and shows Him all miracles that He does: and He will show me greater miracles/WORKS than these, so that you may be amazed and believe. It is plain madness to believe that god stopped all the miracles 2000 years ago because we dont need it any longer ! The evidence of the true love of God's miracles in the holy Scoan Church Nigeria, increase faith that lead to salvation of ones soul. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 7:09pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
Jesus himself said Satan will not work against himself. (Read the holy scriptures)
Anyone using Demonic/Satanic power cannot deliver a person from evil spirits.
Anyone using Demonic/Satanic power cannot make the blind see or the deaf hear. (recorded history proves that only Jesus can do it)
Medical science is a demonic scam ! Thousands of people testify to the way doctors/specialists have failed to heal them after taking all their money.
Psychology and Psychiatry are the most dangerous demonic scam against humanity. No one is healed. (Do your own research)
blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 6:56pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
JMAN05: Still out of the point. Someone can perform miracle without Gods backing. That's the point. See if you can understand the meaning of these scriptures? Here the mighty Jesus again explains why the miracles and deliverances bear witness that it is all God sent. He rightly refers to the great John the baptist. Joh 5:35 John was a burning and a shining light: and you were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. Joh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the miracles/ WORKS which the Father has given me to finish, the same miracles/ WORKS that I do, bear witness for me, that the Father hath sent me. blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 6:44pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
JMAN05: The girl that had spirit if divination in the bible didn't complain of such, neither did Satan who sent fire from heaven in the days of Job.
Jesus words are clear, someone can perform works in his name, yet he is not the backer. Right, you say the girl did not complain. Please let us know if the girl said she was happy ? Also kindly let us know how to identify a true pastor ? blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 6:41pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
JMAN05: Jesus didn't call it fake miracles and wonders as if it didn't happen. These false prophets will wrought real miracles that can be verified as having happened. But God is not their backer. Acts 16:16: Exod 7:11,12
With such miracles, you would think that God is backing him up, but you use the Bible to analyse any such persons. Act 17:11. Ok. Now tell us how we can recognize a true pastor etc ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is It Impossible For Prophet TB Joshua To Use Demonic Power To Do Healing by ScienceWatch(op): 6:36pm On Mar 15, 2017 |
JMAN05: The girl that had spirit if divination in the bible didn't complain of such, neither did Satan who sent fire from heaven in the days of Job.
Jesus words are clear, someone can perform works in his name, yet he is not the backer. It is only your own words that make it clear, and not Jesus words. You have a sick need to use Jesus' name here to push forward your loveless agenda. blueAgent , bennyann , Pidgin2 , Kingebukasblog , Junia , oaroloye |