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JackBizzle:
Are you related to the retar.... called sciencewatch? You guys post the same crappy links about atheism

jonbellion:
Mr man you have come again
At least why you're here I can give you your test result

Lennycool:
So SCOAN and TB Joshua are the only church/person you know that helps suffering people.

Topgainer:
Loooool
Good sense of humour Bro.
How far your Holy Prophet of the whole world. The originator of scientifically proven miracles, the god father of the prophets. The inventor of fire on the legs, who are you, man of god I receive and so many prophets of miracles in Africa imitate and pay allegiance to this great Holy Prophet.

randomperson:
Seriously, there are some weird people in this section... MrPresident, sciencewatch, felixomor...

benzics:
That sciencewatch is worse o, maybe the guy has some kind of brain tumor, oh religion is actually the tumor.. When ever I see his name, I just scroll past his post..

Lennycool:
No be small.
He always seems to also advertise TB Joshua whenever possible.
Hell who knows, it might actually be TB Joshua himself on nairaland

jimmyjenseng:
Lolzz. You and this felixomor guy ehn!

@op, the article is perfectly right. Religious children tend to see themselves overly right and look down - sometimes go as far as harming - on those who don't share same belief as them.

Thank goodness the world is gradually coming to cognizance to the truth that was cemented by religious lies at the back end of our minds.

JackBizzle:


I swear, that guy seems to be on drugs

Topgainer:
Worshippers of men of gods will claim this one like:

The benefit of attending Shiloh and sowing, donating and pledging as you never did before. The dead are raised by the gods and their case is different.

Worshippers of scientifically proven miracle a.k.a Sciencewatch will claim his own like:
Holy prophet TB Joshua is the most powerful messenger sent by the holy gods to distribute water for the healing of the world. Scientifically verifiable raising of the dead is a small thing for Holy Senior Prophet Joshua of Synagogue.

felixomor:
Since u have a good eye for rubbish,
I am surprised u didnt spot the one i was replying.

Ur rubbish detector is selective.

konjinokillme:
simple quesion you haere speanking grammmar..


so there are no holy, spirit filled men in the whole nation apart from tb joshua..

konjinokillme:
simple quesion you haere speanking grammmar..


so there are no holy, spirit filled men in the whole nation apart from tb joshua..

Omudia11:
Exactly! I don't even listen to pastors who only give motivational speeches. If I need motivation, I would buy a motivational book for that.

Joel Oesteen is a good example, all motivation and no power. Motivation cannot save you, only Jesus Christ saves.

Sarassin:
Well, at least we agree on something.

DoctorAlien:
That does not mean we are not to respond to sincere questions about GOD and His love for humanity, according as we have knowledge. We are to be ready to answer any man who requires of us a reason for our faith and hope.(1 Pet. 3:15).

Finally, brethren, "Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience." Eph. 5:6

GOD bless you.

APCsupporter:
Where is your scientific proof that the red sea was divided?

Where is your scientific proof that mary gave birth to jesus without a man?

Where is your scientific proof that in fact God exist?

Where is your scientific proof that a blind man can be healed without anything physical at all?

Where is your scientific proof that holy spirits exist?

Don't be a hypocrite

bashydemy:
Did you just said religion is not by force? Then why are the christian disturbing the peach of the people trying to convert them, why are they taking there religion to the Arab Nations and complain through media if those Arab say they don't want them, Is it by force? as Lagoshia said we have been a victim of the christian through there evangelism, I remember back in the days when they come to preach to you and you tell them am sorry am a Muslim they will insist that you listen to what they want to tell you cos Jesus is the only way and i said no i don't want to follow his way is it by force, They will come the next day to preach if you say no they will come the day after why? we have been oppress so many time but when we find out that Islam is the only way and also about the fraud and lies in the bible we have to call our brothers back and also preach to people so they wont go astray Thank you.

Sarassin:
I am no atheist but in my view a fundamental dishonesty takes place in these charismatic churches in the name of “deliverance” and both deliverer and congregation are complicit in the macabre dance, I see auto-suggestive and mesmeric techniques reminiscent of live traveling hypnotists shows I witnessed decades ago living in the boonies in Canada, the unwary are brought up on stage, induced to hypnotism and made to produce all manner of ridiculous antics under auto-suggestion with no memory or recollection of their actions afterwards.

A congregant who is pre-disposed to the idea of demonic possession (and it is usually women or defence-less children) with preconceptions of the standard of behavior of one supposedly possessed will generally act accordingly under subtle manipulation. I promise you that there are no limits to the suggestibility of the human mind in the hands of a skilled operator.

This is not to say that demonic possession does not exist, it does but it is not the purview of the charlatan. I would add that with the exception of highly specialised and dedicated priests, with dispensation from "sanctum sanctorum" anyone attempting to expel a true demonic presence would likely be shattered by the mere emanations of such an entity, I know because I have seen the results of such fo.ol-hardiness first hand.

In my view what obtains in a lot of charismatic churches touting "deliverance" is little more than badly orchestrated psychological manifestations induced by sometimes well meaning but utterly deluded self-styled men of God. It amounts to a fraud perpetrated in the name of God.

hopefulLandlord:
A growing number of scholars are openly questioning or actively arguing against Jesus’ historicity

Religion is one of the most enduringly powerful forces on earth. Two of the most influential, both today and in the past, Christianity and Islam, believe that Jesus Christ played a pivotal role in both faiths.

Christians believe that Jesus was the son of God, born of a virgin birth, was crucified and resurrected for the remission of sins. Muslims believe that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth brought forth by the command of Allah and became one of his most important (and subsequently revered) prophets. Muslims do not believe that Jesus was crucified but that another man died in his place.

Whether or not we believe in the existence and life of Christ as a matter of faith most people are prepared to accept that Jesus was a real and verifiable historical figure; that he was born, lived and died in Judea between around 4BC and 33AD. This has been repeated so many times that most people do not ever think to challenge it but should they? Did a man called Jesus, son of Mary (and adoptive son of Joseph) walk the paths of Judea or was he merely a figment of imagination? A group of stories and myths pulled together by a range of cynical individuals for a particular purpose?

If you are a Christian, of course, the existence of Christ is a matter of faith but should non-Christians believe in Jesus so readily? Here are my top 9 reasons to claim that Jesus never existed.

Psalm351:
Hmmm..

onlyTheTruth:
Good Day Nairalanders,,
As Jesus Christ said... „Search ye the truth, and the truth shall free you,,,,, i am on a quest to find the best scripture from God, but the scripture that will qualify to be called THE BOOK OF GOD should be error and contradiction free..... i have made research on the two major religions CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM, and their scriptures.
to start with, i want to make something clear please, i am not here to desecrate any scripture, so if you cant enlighten me on things you think i dont understand, just read and past,,,

starting with the BIBLE, i came across hundreds of things i want the learned NL to put me through, hence no one so far is able to help, instead i get the reply that "U NEED THE HOLY SPIRIT TO UNDERSTAND"
i dont have the holy spirit, thats why i ask those that have it, but it seems like we are all in the same boat... i will divide this into parts

1. Bible says in Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,...„Light was created on the first day.
Verses, 14 to 19... „The cause of light-stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day‟. How can the cause of light be created on the 4th day -later than the light which came into existence on the first day?
Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses 9 to 13... „Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ? The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day?

2... Job, Ch. 26, Verse 11, that...„The pillars of the Heaven will tremble. first book of Samuel, Ch. No.2 Verses No.8, as well as the book of Job Ch. No.9, Verse No.6, and the book of Psalms Ch. No.75, Verse No.3, that... „Even the earth have got pillars .........i want to understan what pillars.

3..Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No.29, that... „God has given you all the herbs bearing seeds, the trees bearing fruits -those that bear seed, as meat for you.‟ ?? really how about plants containing alkaloid, polyander, bacaipoid,,, how about poisonous plants,,, plz help explain.

4... the big test to identify a true christian .. Mark, Ch. No.16, Verse No.17 and 18 -It says that... „There will be signs for true believers and among the signs -In my name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak foreign tongues, new tongues, they shall take up serpents -And if they drink deadly poison, they shall not be harmed -And when they place their hand over the sick, they shall be cured. That means if a false person tries and does this test... takes poison, he will die. And a false person will not dare attempt this test -If you are not a true Christian believer, you will not dare attempt this test. Because you try and attempt the falsification test, you will fail. So a person who is not a true Christian believer, will never attempt this test.
i have not yet come across a single christian who have passed this test,, we have hospitals full of patients , the people that does the snake crusade die one by one from snake bites, the foreign tongue, no two pastors can explain what the other is saying in tongues,, so kindly help me

5...The Bible also has a very good test for adultery,, How to come to know a woman has committed adultery, in the book of Numbers, Ch. no.5 Verse No..11 to 31. I‟ll just say in brief. It says that... „The priest should take holy water in a vessel, take dust from the floor, and put it into the vessel And that is the bitter water „And after cursing it, give it to the woman And if the woman has committed adultery, after she drinks it, the curse will enter her body, the stomach will swell, the thigh will rot, and she shall be cursed by the people. If the woman has not committed adultery, she will remain clean and she will bear the seed. A method of identifying whether a woman has committed adultery or not. ..................... You know today in the world, there are thousands of cases pending in different parts of the world, in different courts of law -only on the assumption that someone has alleged that a woman has committed adultery.,, cant they employ this method, or will it not work??

6.. Ezra, Ch. No.2, Verse No.1, and Nehemiah, Ch. No.7, Verse No.6, the context that... „When the people returned from exile, from Babylon, when king Nebucheldeser of Babylon, when he released the men from Israel, they came back from captivity‟ -and the list of the people are given. The list is given in Ezra, Ch. No.2, Verse No.2 to 63, and Nehemiah Ch. No.7, Verse No.7 up to 65; the list is given with the names as well as number of people released. In these 60 Verses there are no less than 18 times -the name is exactly the same but the number is different. There are no less than 18 contradictions in less than 60 Verses, of these two Chapters. you can check for yaselves
Further it is mentioned in Ezra, Ch. No.2 Verse No.64 that... „The total congregation, if you add up... if you add up, it comes to 42,360.‟ And if you read in Nehemiah, Ch. No.7, Verse No.66, there also the total is the same 42,360. But if you add up all these verses, Ezra Ch. No. 2 -It does not come to 42,360 -it comes to 29,818. And if you add up Nehemiah, Ch. No. 7, even then it does not come to 42,360 -It comes to 31,089.

7....Ezra Ch. No. 2, Verse No. 65, it says...There were 200 singing men and women
Nehemiah Ch. No. 7, Verse No. 67...„There were 245 singing men and women.
Were they 200 -or were they 245 singing men and women?

8...2nd Kings, Ch. 24, Verse 8, dat...„Jehoiachin was 18 years old, wen he began to reign Jerusalem, n he reigned for 3 months.
2nd Chronicles, Ch 36, Verse 9, says that...„Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he began to reign and he reigned for 3 months, 10 days
Was Jehoiachin 18 years when he began to reign, or was he 8 years old? Did he reignfor 3 months, or did he reign for 3 months 10 days?

9...1st Kings, Ch. No 7, Verse No 26, that...„In Solomon‟s temple, in his molten sea, he had 2000 baths.
2ndChronicles, Ch. No 4, Verse No 5, he had 3000 baths.
Did he have 2000 baths or did he have 3000 baths?

10..First Kings, Ch. No. 15, Verse No. 33, that... „Basha, he died in the 26th year of reign of Asa.
2nd Chronicles Ch. No 16, Verse No 1, says that...„Basha invaded Judah in the 36th years of the reign of Asa.‟ How can Basha invade 10 years after his death?


i will drop my pen here and wait for answers,,, i mean tangible answers,,,, then i wil bring in another set,,, plz help move to fp for more answers

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malvisguy212:
the bible did not provide the geanology of Jesus does not mean he (melchisedek) did not have one, the oldest man in the bible, methusalah, who was he mother? The fact that the bible did not made mention of his mother name mean methusalah did not have a mother? What about Moses? Did the bible mention his geanology?

The quran adress Jesus by his mother name, in what culture is a man adress by his mother name?

guru1234:
THE BIBLE IS CLEAR ABOUT THE FACT HE HAS NO BEGINING NO GENEOLOGY AND NO END OF DAYZ....I BELIEVE THAT IS SELF EXPLANATORY.....JUST WITH UR RATIONALE HE HIS A GREATER god THAN JESUS

QuietHammer:
Sincewatch, that would be an attack on islam, not an attack on muslims.

QuietHammer:
Not an attack on Muslims

menxer:
Hear you.

Those that got "healed" on Emmanuel TV, did they not desire and make the effort to get to TB Joshua?

Such thinking is what is drawing us backwards.
Now Nigeria is struggling with power supply, is it that God has not given man the knowledge to harness electricity?
Do you now expect Jesus to come and build power plants and transmission lines for us?

DeSepiero:
You don't have to mention me abusively. Apparently, you didn't understand what I was discussing with 4kings.

JMAN05:
Jesus didn't call it fake miracles and wonders as if it didn't happen. These false prophets will wrought real miracles that can be verified as having happened. But God is not their backer. Acts 16:16: Exod 7:11,12

With such miracles, you would think that God is backing him up, but you use the Bible to analyse any such persons. Act 17:11.

Kalatium:
You still have not answered my question, go straight to the point and stop beating around the bush

JMAN05:
By performing miracles, Satan is not working against himself. He is rather promoting his fraud.

I am not the person saying that Satan can perform miracles. Jesus did. We read

Matt 24:24

24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones"

Shouting does not change the truth. Someone not empowered by God can perform great signs. Satan still has his power.