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Butterflyleo:
Not by someone/ something in your context and view but by someone/ something beyond your view.

Thoughts of good or evil did not just arrive. They are already prewired into our DNA. Something we did not influence.

It is incredible what DNA is revealing about the spirit nature of mankind.

For instance the DNA markers of a man with a dead conscience a murderer, rapist, crook is different from a man with high morals.

Soon one can do a quick DNA check to know who is atheist.

vaxx:
With all due respect atheism seems irrational. my opinion though. though they claim it is compatible with naturalism but i fear it offer no natural value. i will love to hear from atheist if been atheist comes with any natural value. i mean the ''objective verified evidence of the value'' in seun voice. At least we have all seen the charitable works of religion,schools,hospital etc even if it has come with is own flaws.

Very true VAXX. Could it be that the reason atheists claim that they are compatible with naturalism, is because only the Atheists has evolved from fish and apes

budaatum:
You are wrong butter. My brain does not function the way it is because my DNA prewired me to. I, buda, function the way I do because of the culture I imbibed and the learning I have done.

Then you must be a remarkable exception my dear.

Atheist deceptively punt the evolution of humans from apes knowing that that feat is exceptional.

Yet we realize that apes also have free will, many apes refused to "EVOLVE" because they knew they would have to mock their creator if they followed the crazy group of apes that decided to EVOLVE.
The OP written so beautifully BUTTERFLYLEO makes me wonder if the evolved apes are now really atheists ?

vaxx:
With all due respect atheism seems irrational. my opinion though. though they claim it is compatible with naturalism but i fear it over no natural value. i will love to hear from atheist if been atheist comes with any natural value. i mean the ''objective verified evidence of the value'' in seun voice. At least we have all seen the charitable works of religion,schools,hospital etc even if it has come with is own flaws.

Well said Sir VAXX.

The objective, verified scientific evidence of the objective VALUE of Atheism is extreme irrationality as is beautifully explained in this superb award winning OP by BUTTERFLYLEO.

Butterflyleo:
Lmao

Your ignorance is topnotch designer ignorance.

https://m.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2018/05/03/look-to-the-sky-during-the-chicago-kids-and-kites-festival-saturday-photos

I guess you alone know that adults use more kites than kids. Lmao

Lol. Rolling on the floor with laughter. BUTTERFLYLEO you have a highly developed sense of humour in a Mental Asylum.

That atheists ignorance is designer IGNORANCE EXTRAORDINAIRE.
Lol. Haaaaaa hic hic .

vaxx:
first of all, wishing you barika ya ramadan . Open mind is a virtue that is real and i must tell you i admire the individual who have it.... it takes much of an educated mind to tolerate ever ideology while not believing or practicing them. therefore i salute your openness.

However, i do not want you to just hold on you opinion. Don’t be scared to investigate things for yourself. Read things from different religious perspectives. Give atheists the time of day. Go and chat with a local pastor or uztas of your interest. Look up to Wikipedia. challenge our opinion and put it into test. the more you know , the more you grow. i am pretty sure you will not buy a new compute without fully checking the specification on yourself even if you head about it somewhere. you will really want to know. extend this idea to your faith too. challenge it.

I grew up with both Islamic and tradition believe until I was introduced to the Bible in my secondary school and not just people’s interpretations of the Bible but the scholarly part of it, which make me started doing my own research to confirm their interpretations. For the most part, they all align. Anytime they differ, I take all of them and try to interpret them in the best way that works, not just for me alone but for mankind and to i am a proud traditionalist now. still enjoy sallah meal from mom when home.

Now if a man shows me something that goes against my current INTERPRETATION of my tradition faith, it becomes my responsibility to correct either my worldview or his interpretation of what he saw. I do not accept doubt because it is just as bad as yeast when not dealt with. You find out why and you deal with the consequences.

It is your existence.
Own it.

As usual, I commend your compassion and highly developed open mindedness in complex spiritual matters such as this VAXX.

But allow me to respectfully make a brief comment here.

That guy revealed that he is on a spiritual search and it seems that he wants to go forward.
Example: Forward is from no house to owning a house. Forward is from no job to having a job. Forward is no understanding of God to joining a spiritual institution/religion to learn, etc.

We can't go forward spiritually by consulting Atheists, that is a huge step backwards as is subtly explained in the incredible OP. BUTTERFLYLEO did a magnificent job of dismantling the very foundations of Atheism.


SALUTE !!

Butterflyleo:
As I chat with atheists here on nairaland I tend to also study them and their styles of argument which unknown to them, projects their mental states through their writing and I have come to discover a few rather shocking things as I studied them.

I will begin this OP with a quote by Robert Reich the former U.S labour secretary under former President Bill Clinton when he said and I quote

"God is worse than terrorism"! He argued that followers of God pose a more significant threat to the 21st Century world than terrorists do and concluded by saying,

“ the great conflict of the modern world will not be between the West and terrorism but between those who believe in the primacy of the individual and those who believe that human beings owe their allegiance and identity to a higher authority; between those who believe in science, reason, and logic and those who believe that truth is revealed through Scripture and religious dogma”.

These rather illogical choice of words are the lengths atheists resort to while trying to negate the existence of God to themselves FIRST and then by extension, to their readers. This process of self negation involves playing of many mental games that well and truly stretches their psychological defense mechanisms.

The three men, who made atheism popular in the 19th Century, had almost the same experiences early in their lives, and there is a common psychological pattern evident in their later lives of rebellion.

They are, Friedrich Nietzsche, Thomas Henry Huxley and Sigmund Freud. They all had very similar psychological challenges and issues in their lives. They all had cruel fathers who often exerted domineering tendencies on them, they all suffered very high levels of depression and chronic obsessive fears. They therefore made it their lifes goal to destroy God, who to them represented a symbol of their fathers.

Since the existence of God is a reality (Yes I said that it is a reality so it is not a typo and is not open to debate either), an atheists mind protects itself from this rather profound reality through rejection of God’s existence using several psychological defense mechanisms such as i have observed in basically all Nairaland atheists. These psychological defense mechanisms are,

1) Rationalization

2) Repression

3) Displacement

4) Suppression and denial

Rationalization is an atheist’s number one favourite psychological defense mechanism. They very much depend on false reasoning that sounds logical to negate to themselves, the reality of God. They will throw loads and loads of reasons at Christians as to why God does not exist, and make them sound as logical as possible.

I will quote from a book written by John Pasquini, titled, Atheist Personality Disorder and he said thus,

"Addressing a Distorted Mindset, points out that atheists are good at using pedantic language to convince themselves and others, as they fool themselves that they are intellectually superior, while in the real sense, they are mere rationalizers."

Displacement is another extremely popular coping mechanism that an atheist uses. They always shift their anger towards believers and belief systems. Have you ever wondered why the thing atheists are good at is attacking religion and believers? It’s simply a coping mechanism.

An over reliance on these defense mechanisms do often lead to emotional immaturity and disjointed thinking that ends up in personality disorders. There is more than enough proof that atheism is a personality disorder.

1) Atheists have among the highest suicide rates in the world. Atheist countries have a suicide rate of 32 percent for every 100,000 people as compared to 4 for every 100,000 people in religious countries.

2) They are the most aggressive bitter and unhappy group in the society and this is evident even here on nairaland as all you need to do is scan individual atheist comments in the religion section and you would see hatred, bitterness, resentment and vile language all roled into one. It is common knowledge that our words are a projection of who we are.

3) Statistics have shown that they are less likely to get married twice as likely to get divorced and highly likely to have no children.

4) Statistics from atheistic regimes show that atheists are among the most intolerant groups in the world. The most popular atheistic nations are the former Soviet Union (Which is now a Christian Nation known as Russia), Vietnam and North Korea. According to John Pasquini, the Soviets destroyed more than 42,000 churches between 1917 and 1969, leaving the country with less than 6,000 churches. North Korea destroyed more than 500 Buddhist temples, while Vietnam destroyed more than 700. About 168 out of 270 suicide bombings that were carried out between 1980 and 2000 were not by Muslims but by Marxist atheists, including the bombing that killed President Ranasinge Premadasa of Sri Lanka in 1993 which was carried out by an atheist terrorist group known as Tamil Tigers (Yes again i said it and it was no typo. The Tamil Tigers are an atheist terrorist group). And it is clearly evident through their ideology as stated by wikipedia and i quote,

"Religion was not a major factor in their philosophy or ideology, the ideology of the Tamil Tigers emerged from Marxist-Leninist thought, and was explicitly secular. Its leadership professed opposition to religion".

As my fellow Christian, after you must have read all of the above, my strong counsel to you goes thus

"The very next time an atheist tries to engage you in an argument. LEAVE THEM ALONE!"

You don’t have to prove the existence of God to attention seeking psychotics who want to assert their intellectual superiority through faulty psychological coping mechanisms. You don’t have to prove that God exists. In fact you cannot be "arm twisted" to as atheists tend to attempt making you do through emotional blackmail. His existence is not debatable!

The moment you learn to ignore their demands they die just like when you starve a person of food, they die. This is the prescription on how to treat the mental disorder known as atheism.

Apply this very effective doses anywhere you see them gather and anytime you read their demands regarding proof for Gods existence from you regardless of the deliberate provocation they pour on you and watch them dry up and die.

God bless and Happy curing

References :

http://news.gallup.com/poll/108625/more-religious-countries-lower-suicide-rates.aspx

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2a902ee4b022ec613b812b/amp

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Thread-Why-Do-Atheists-Have-the-Highest-Suicide-Rates

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

cc winner01, felixomor, Anas09, ishilove, Sonofthunder, sciencewatch, image123, kingebukasblog, etc

THE OP is incredibly enlightening and written with love for humanity.

Many thanks Sir.
This OP should be reposted on all forums worldwide.

Butterflyleo:
Says the guy who was told to " go and fly a kite".

I guess I wasn't the only one seeing you as a child.

ROTFL. That wayward child should also be told to go play in the park.

budaatum:
Welcome back dear. Where have you been? Your services were missed. Do take leave when you next dissapear so we don't have to wonder about you!

So, you, who has the "intelligence to understand what you wrote here". Explain it to us please.

It is alway good to hear from you my dear. I have forwarded my apologies for taking leave without permission.
But you deserve my personal apologies my dear.

Thanks for recognizing that I do have superior understanding of the OP and BUTTERFLYLEO'S supernatural insight.

budaatum:
Hey! Petty seller. Who's the "we" ?

Hey Petty Buyer. It is good to hear from you after my long spiritual journey into the LIGHT.

Lol. Your question seems tongue in cheek or laced with "Petty" sarcasm.

No offence taken Sir. I admire they way you extracted the one piece of gold in my post.

"WE" is the nugget of gold that points to the reality of the powerful foundation upon which the highly esteemed BUTTERFLYLEO operates.

I trust that you will effectively define the "WE."

budaatum:
Hey! Petty seller. Who's the "we" ?

Hey Petty Buyer. It is good to hear from you after my long spiritual journey into the LIGHT.

Lol. Your question seems tongue in cheek or laced with "Petty" sarcasm.

No offence taken Sir. I admire they way you extracted the one piece of gold in my post.

"WE" is the nugget of gold that points to the reality of the powerful foundation upon which the highly esteemed BUTTERFLYLEO operates.

budaatum:
He never meant it. How can one ask a thread be ignored but call in all those you want to notice it?

The thread itself was bait to drag his cohorts out of the woodwork. Even long lost Sciencewatch has turned up to ignore the thread and I wouldn't be surprised to see kingebukasblog turn up to ignore it too at some point.

I am not sure where you got all confused with your opinion that I ignored this tread about atheist mental problems.

The OP is well written and instructive, it reveals BUTTERFLYLEO'S love for the lost, it is brimming with compassion and a rare passion to enlighten even those in Straight- Jackets.

I can never ignore this tread BudaAtum.

Butterflyleo:
You want to use me to regain relevance? Not gonna happen.

So I should suddenly see you as important enough to loose sleep over?

You are yet to gather every single fragment of your broken mirror. Focus on that and then get the right glue that would make the cracks no longer visible.

BUTTERFLYLEO, smart move Sir.
Hardcore is baiting you while begging you to help make him relevant. Stay alert.
SALUTE !!!

Butterflyleo:
He believes some demons are dead people yet he is an atheist.

BUTTERFLYLEO you have highlighted another hallmark of the Atheists mindset, which is confusion and gross inconsistencies. That dude is hoping he will be the next prophet of Atheism to replace the failed Richard Dawkins.

shaybebaby:
The only abuse I'm suffering from is the assault on our collective senses wihh your asinine reasoning.

The Bible is fact.
The alchemist is also fact.
So is Aladin.

Cretins.

Therefore, you admit that your deity known as No-god also exit, but atheists are ashamed to speak of him, instead they froth at the mouth and mock a God they all agree do not exist.
BUTTERFLYLEO must be commended for the dignified manner in which he dismantled the very foundations of Atheism.

Anas09:
Hahahahahahaha. So i come off like someone who only reads the Bible? Wow. The Bible must be such a great book that i read it and passed all my exams without a resit from 100 levels to the end. Should i tell you how many professional exams i have written and passed? Yet i read only my Bible.

See how much of a Sage you are?

The Bible says, Even a fool when he shuts his mouth. he'll be countered as a wise man'. Shut the hell up.

This stupid dude brags that he is the one that is widely read, but all I see is a strange lack of understanding with grave illogical inconsistencies.

Anas09:
They are dead flies polluting and stinking up everything.

Good News Translation Ecclesiastes 10:1

Dead flies can make a whole bottle of perfume stink, and a little stupidity can cancel out the greatest wisdom.

you are absolutely on point with the subtle nuances in the OP.

Atheists stupidity certainly cancels out the wisdom in the OP

Butterflyleo:
Why are you misfiring all of a sudden? What business have I got to do with 4evergod? I am talking about you and you are throwing a red herring at me. Lmao

Did your fellow atheists not all put up disclaimers against you so your filth would not rub off on them?

Hey, that dude is suddenly misfiring on all plugs. Your superior intellect and Wisdom is the reason they use baseless insults against you.

May the Holy Spirit continue to strengthen and protect you in this Mental Asylum.

Anas09:
Now i know you need to borrow a brain. Some demons are dead people? Where in your village? hahahahahahahahaha. Imaooo. Boy, demons possess people, when those people die, demons leave those bodies and take another body as host. They don't die. Demons are spirits.

You are a brilliant teacher of the INVISIBLE supernatural reality. It is a pity that these atheists are so brain dead.

Butterflyleo:
You lack the temerity to do so apparently unless you wish to be PROUDLY disgraced again.

Good thing you have your wits about you and know when you are beaten even from a distance.

Have you noticed that Hardmirror is ashamed to debate his sacred deity called NO-GOD which he proudly worship in public.

He thinks that by attacking religion, his deity NO-GOD will boost his puny intellect so he can Checkmate you in a debate.

BUTTERFLYLEO you have revealed the deep psychosis of the atheist character by exposing their fixation on a God they themselves hype up as non- existent.
The OP is fair and unbiased. The OP is written with love and compassion to preserve the DIGNITY of the forsaken ones.

Butterflyleo:
Keep on baiting. I know your type. When I shift gear and focus on you, you would run off whimpering. But I am not for that tonight. Rolling in pigs filth isn't something I aim to do when I already know the pigs and clearly see their filth.

Wisdom tells me that you are not worth a modicum of attention. For someone who has been expending so much energy on harry porter books and Jedis and starwars as references, it shows the mental challenges you expose yourself to and how so much lacking they are.

Shew !!! These wannabe atheists are desperately showing off their mental inconsistencies and madness. Shaybebaby comes across as an Atheist with abusive parents.

Butterflyleo:
Lmao

Is it that obvious he is a child?

ROTFL
I don't trust that dude.He has a childish and spiteful streak.

Butterflyleo:
You are fond of first baiting with calling me a liar before you type your usual long epistles which hold no water.

What the person professes should only bother those who profess same with him and not someone who says his words of profession do not exist.

I am glad you are seeing the illogicality in my talk about the murder claim when there existed no weapon as proof. That illogicality you are seeing is actually how your words and accusations of hypocrisy towards Christians looks like
You say Jesus does not exist and the bible is a myth yet you suddenly remove the myth tag you placed on the bible and use its words to judge someone when you feel like it and expect to be taken seriously?

You also suddenly cause Jesus to exist so you can use his words and life to judge another who subscribes to him despite you claiming Jesus does not exist and you feel you are making sense to yourself?

What you are doing is called selective perception. You have absolutely no foundation to stand on to lay your accusations yet you imagine you had one by selectively giving authority to the bible whenever you feel like it despite your premise that calls it a myth and you selectively bring Jesus into existence in order to use him as a template despite claiming he never existed.

If you were in a law court and you were a lawyer on what grounds would you present your case, on existing foundations to your case or on non existent foundations? Remember a lawyer would always make an opening argument. So what and where would your opening arguments come from when your foundation for a case never existed?

As a judge what would you be looking out for in order to make a case credible? A case with existing facts or a case which have no existing facts?

These are your non existent facts

1) Jesus does not exist

2) The bible is a myth.

Your non existent facts threw your case out even before it began.

Wow BUTTERFLYLEO, that was Checkmate !!!!!!! We all agree that your post deserve an award.

POST OF THE WEEK goes to BUTTERFLYLEO.

superhumanist:
You must really like the taste of Butterflyleos butt.

Asslicker

why are you stalking me. Don't mention me. You are bitter and envious because BUTTERFLYLEO has a far superior intellect and Wisdom that you can only masturbate over.

Go fly a Kite. Don't mention me.

Anas09:
Like i care? You of all people should have known me by now. I give no shiittt.

If you lots don't come at me, you won't exist. You guys are dead already anyways, so what has the living got to do with the dead?

Keep being blind to all the insults he hauls at me, but magnify what i say. I don't care boy.

Well stated. WHAT HAS THE LIVING GOT TO DO WITH THE DEAD. You have summarized the essence of the atheist dilemma.

Butterflyleo:
You call it fiction yet still speak for me despite having a premise that it is fiction.

Kids speak of star wars and jedis and make comments like a Jedi would be judges by star wars. How old are you?

Your little mind is too small for "big" words like doofus. Learn to stick to two letter words like FU. I think that better matches your brain capacity.

Lol Roll on the floor laughter. ROTFL.

FU is a word especially created to help a Mental patient.

Butterflyleo:
Do you hold the ability to be remotely logical?

So your atheist brethren have not figured out yet that they cannot keep talking about what does not exist to them?

Have YOU been able to figure that out yet? Until you do, then you would never realise how pointless you always are and remain.

It is a sad day when atheists appear totally illogical on a forum slyly created for them by Seun to make them shine. They must be a great disappointment to Seun.

Why are they battling to understand your kind and patient teaching on the key fallacies and serious inconsistencies of the atheist BELIEF SYSTEM.

WHY DO THEY KEEP TALKING ENDLESSLY ABOUT SOMETHING THEY BELIEVE
DONT EXIST ?

The OP certainly exposes the FICTIONAL distorted reality of an Atheist.

sonofthunder:
welcome back brother... how have you been? and where have you been?
been a (long) while.

I humbly apologize for the late reply mighty CHRISTIAN WARRIOR.

Thank you for the warm welcome. As I mentioned earlier to another blessed CHRISTIAN WARRIOR BUTTERFLYLEO, I have been searching for genuine religious forums where atheistic hatred and deception is shot down, where the true love of Jesus is the dominant theme.

May the mighty JESUS protect your spirit SONOFTHUNDER as you move about in a Mental Asylum.

Butterflyleo:
Even if they did, they would deny it even to themselves in order to keep up with the deception charade.

Yes, what a shame that ATHEISTS would deny TRUTH when they claim that they pride themselves on TRUTH.

BUTTERFLYLEO, what you are observing here is experiential truth of serious symptoms of insanity.

MuttleyLaff:
You're mate!
Yes, you are

You started a strawman, I am wriggling out from

Why do you care what Jesus taught?
What's it got to do with you?
Why mention Jesus and His teachings, to score cheap points if you dont believe in Him, dont believe He exists, dont believe in who He is?
Only the Janus-faced pull stunts like that

It is checkmate. Though I must admit that BudaAtum is the most advanced atheist here.

Butterflyleo:
Some things are obviously beyond your level of understanding,

This is the whole thing



Let me break it down for you.

A) There is hatred in the person towards me.

As an atheist such a mindset called hatred should not exist because you hold a subjective morality which is personal and you believe everyone holds a subjective morality ad objectivity does not exist to you. So where did "hatred" come from? The hatred you claim is someone else's subjective morality which is quite acceptable to you who is also subjective in morality so with what opposing world view do you use to term ANYTHING as hatred?

B) It is an insult, because the person thinks of me as an animal that needs some form of phyiscal punishment

Same with hatred, where did INSULT come from? Remember subjectivity?

Also it is on record that atheists do not believe in creationism as that would entail holding unto a divine being or deity so based on this, most if not all atheists would rather swing the way of evolution which terms all humans as ANIMALS. Based on this, he should not be upset when someone sees him as such after all, does he get upset when scientists call him same?

C) it is against the rules of nairaland.

There would be no nairaland if there was FIRST no US.

We came before nairaland and that means we were made for nairaland and not nairaland for us. The rules of nairaland are always circumvented due to subjectivity which is why people tend to deliberately mispell words censored by nairaland and against nairaland rules (something you also often do). So how can you a lawbreaker call another person a lawbreaker over something you are also guilty of?

Understood?

Correct. But unfortunately these atheists don't have the intelligence to understand what you wrote here.

Butterflyleo:
You would do well to return to your sports section and stop quoting me. Your "theism" is weird.

You gave that wannabe atheist WISE advice sir.
I checked his profile, he is no good even in the sports section. Shame !!!