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I would like to know your position on the Arizona law also to check if its consistent with this belief.

Definitely not discrimination. The US has an illegal immigrant problem lets be serious.  

Would you say they were disadvantaged in any way previously? Did Northern Nigerian people get kicked out of school because of their colour at any point in time or stopped from enrolling in schools for any reason?

It was a colonial policy not to encourage or build schools in the North of Nigeria. There are supposedly documents to prove this. I have never seen them.  Read on Nigeria's history and the role of missionaries (largely absent in the North) in spurring education in the South.

Beaf:
Not possible! Even the devil will tremble and vacate hell at the thought of photoshoping Obj for a newspaper article.

I admit it might be risky to photoshop obasanjo- but usually in developed countries they cite the photographer of the picture. Conveniently missing of course in this article. the picture is Obasanjo and Gbenga.jpg. Apparently someone probably emailed them the picture lol . A photoshopped picture.

Do you think Obasanjo can keep up with Naija newspapers lol. what does he want to do- sue them??

Did that happen in your village newspaper?

Seriously, I know u gotta a grudge with tpia, but in all sincerity, these papers carry all sorts of stories shamelessly. From flying witches to crap.

My favorite is that each coming election year these papers propagate that Babangida is always planning to run for elections. This happens like all the time lol, and every Nigerian falls for this crap because we all have short collective memories.

Why is it that only Babangida of all our former presidents has presidential ambitions lol.

Is that not black to black discrimination? then why are we so bothered about white to black when your fellow black men treat you as bad if not worse.

Is this really discrimination? Or maybe protectionism? Countries have strict immigration rules you know.

Strict immigration rules is not equal to discrimination- I dont know what happened in this circumstance but I would assume the ghanians did not meet immigration requirements. The Ghanians cannot just stay in Nigeria indefinitely lol

Better still he was lucky not to be caught in kano, Jos or Maiduguri and you arse woulda been slashed and bbqued for having the same color but for speaking a different language or different religion.

Anyways discrimination is bad wherever it is practised- Kano, Maiduguri, the US, the UK or whatever. Just because it is practiced in Nigeria does not mean which should accept other forms abroad. So this argument does not hold water. Abeg Cap28 carry dey go complain about racism in the West, I am 100% in support.

so, even with the catchment system (call it nigeria's version of affirmative action in a way, since the north is educationally at a disadavantage compared to the south), how many northerners are in southern universities, and compare with the number of southerners who attend northern universities. Like a ratio of 1:20 dont you think?

yeah true that. Its like in the US when the majority complain about affirmative action when nevertheless they are still the majority.

All my time in the West Ive experienced beautiful people from inside out. People who went out of their way to ensure that I got a strong foothold and succeed in my new country. People from all works of life and all colours. I have nothing to be angry about, just grateful for having met all these warm hearted people of all "races" who welcomed me with open arms .

You are lucky you did not go to mississppi. They would have fired your arse for being in the wrong neighborhood with the wrong color lol

By the way, don't we make fun of our darker brothers in naija by calling them "dudulabi" or "duduyemi".

Thats not discrimination. Do you judge someone because they are dark in naija?

hmm nice to know. You can take him out of 419, but you cant take 419 outta him

LOL, FYI ever boy who went to secondary school in lagos engaged in the email scam in one part of there lives. However, I did not, my mum always watched me whenever I was in a cybercafe. I would have been a good scammer though.

But also look- Obasanjo is not looking at Gbenga, and Gbenga is not looking at Obasanjo. Which kain stupid ritual is that, that there is no eye contact.

[quote author=FL Gators link=topic=454539.msig6127463#msg6127463 date=1275367600]And you've checked his closet and have seen that na only agbada dey there abi?[/quote]Look at that picture and tell me its not photo shopped. Its so obvious. Look and the hand and its interaction with the food and mouth. You cannot scam yoruba boy lol, I have been photo shopping for years

Obasanjo's head is photoshopped on top of that picture, thats why his neck is so dark. He does not have his characteristic fila, meaning he was prolly in a picture where he was just chilling. The food is also photo shopped onto Gbenga's mouth. Gbenga is probably talking to the person whose body was used

Obasanjo is wearing what, a polo shirt- and you guys chopped this photograph.

No wonder scammers still have maga to pay fine fine

one of mekusxyz clones lol

source of the picture

Fotoshop can do anything trust me.

I like the OPs argument

1) now the problem is no longer your skin colour but your nationality
2)  you see, the problems black/moreno brasilians are having is not RACISM.it is the some problems blacks all over the world are having. FORMAL EDUCATION. Education  is free in brasil but yet, most black/moreno people are more intrested in being footballers,music stars etc.tell me, how can you get a unvisersity prof or top government official from such a population?.this has nothing to do with racism. it is simple logic. education is free in the US but still there are tons of illitrate black people who just wont go to school.unfortunately, the reverse is the case in nigeria. the hausas refuse to go to school but yet, they are the one in top government positions. thats why nigeria is the way it is. if obama hadnt been well educated, he would never have been president and black america would have been blaming the inability of a black man to be president on rasicm when the real problem is their atitude towards FORMAL EDUCATION.
well, since you seem to have your mind made up, i dont think there is anypoint trying to make you see things objectivly.

Problem 1: The reason why these people want to be footballers, music stars i because they rarely see people of their kind in any other positions. This subconsciously tells them that they cannot reach those positions. To quote condoleeza Rice, to be good being black, you must be twice as good, and try twice as hard. Try and be a Government official or Professor, and see if you would have enough network or support to do so. As a top professor you need someone to finance your research for example. Government official you need the social setting to reach such position. Its not easy for blacks mate, and aint complaining.

lol

yeah musiwa and becomrich are the same lol

^what are you posting.

How is the polygamy argument useless and how does it correlate to guns and women?

1. It has nothing to do with the Malawi case, only dunces would use that argument. The Malawi case is not about marriage.
2. The polygamy in the US/UK were made illegal a long tym ago. It has not yet being challenged in the US. Once it was challenged in the UK, the UK allowed polygamy for people who got married outside the UK. Such legislation was easier for them because they dont need to worry about litigation or feel liable for foreign marriages. Now polygamy in the US would be another cup of tea. With the large population of feminist and independent women in that country such crap will not fly.
3. I equate it to gun laws because although federal gun laws were made in 1948. But they were later repealed in 2008, after a landmark courtcase. No courtcase has been focused on polygamy.  The reason why?

First of all the polygamy laws in the US were based on intuitive moral grounds as well as the claim: The US is a Christian nation . However, this could be challenged, and the law would have to be defended on other grounds


1. The polygamy law is not severely enforced in the US. Polygamy unions do occur as I mentioned earlier.
2. If it was, and brought to court, it will not hold water in my own opinion and those of others. I might be no lawyer, but I can spot a weak argument. Women rights organizations will shout fire and brimstone. It would take the feminist movement several years back. These women rights organizations are less in the UK lol, so that could have been why the polygamy law was amended.

Please read on arguments against polygamy and how he affects the autonomy of women. Do a simple google search. Then you can see why it cannot even be close to be legalized especially in a country where the women have lots of rights.

In Nigeria where a adult woman cannot easily file for alimony in an abusive relationship, imagine what would be happening in polygamous unions. How can someone say women can choose to be polygamous? Does this make sense? Do you think women want to share financial resources with several women? What about the children of polygamous unions? What will happen to them in the presence of a "divorce"?

Can anyone argue that polygamy is good? No. But still its the default arguments for those who have nothing to argue with.

There was a time in the US when it was illegal for such public pronouncements, but in Malawi it's illegal to do so.

You are correct. Infact where I used to stay in the US, there used to be attacks on people who just looked gay lol and homophobia is rampant even in liberal campuses.

But the US and UK changed there sodomy laws because of activists and lawyers. If you are aware of the US law system, its very fluid- you could get away with murder lol. Each law is challenged in court, and usually depending on the argument of an intelligent lawyer.

These Human right organizations (from all over the world) including the UN argued continuously before the US changed it laws. These same Organizations with repentant countries are trying to convince Malawi to change there indecency laws. So what exactly is your point? That the US is hypocritical? Was Obama in power during these laws?

The problem is that people see countries as personification of ideologies, not aware that these countries have there own troubles. If you claim that these human right organizations are "western" you fail to see that they also continuously question the US government on every issue.

I get tired of all these confusing arguments. "Western" human right organizations such as the UN criticize the US government too:

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/immigration/apx_un_rights_experts_criticize_arizona_law_05112010

(AP) The Obama administration on Wednesday formally endorsed a U.N. declaration calling for the worldwide decriminalization of homosexuality, a measure that former President George W. Bush had refused to sign.

The move was the administration's latest in reversing Bush-era decisions that have been heavily criticized by human rights and other groups. The United States was the only western nation [/b]not to sign onto the declaration when it came up at the U.N. General Assembly in December.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/18/national/main4873350.shtml

So whats the point as I asked gamesmart? I told gamesmart- if polygamy can be proven to be a right, assuming so, it will be challenged in court. [b]FYI, the polygamy law in the US has not being directly challenged, and it was instituted in 1889.

, just like the way it's in the U.S military, declare your sexuality and get kicked out.

The DADT (dont ask, dont tell) was initiated during the Clinton administration. Clinton might have been ultraliberal but he is not s.t.u.pid. This law was supposedly repealed two days ago- I had a discussion with one of my friends- quite a brilliant fellow- but very homophobic. He argued convincingly on why gays should not be allowed to declare there sexuality in the military. I still agree with his argument, and I am skeptical about Obama's choice to repeal this law. One of the reasons is that the U.S. Military is significantly made of southern Americans from the bible-belt. Most are rabidly homophobic- they would refuse to share a room/food with a gay person. Imagine if an openly gay person was allowed to serve in the army- this would compromise his safety and even the national security of the US during wars.

Unless one of the exceptions from 10 U.S.C. § 654(b) applies, the policy prohibits anyone who "demonstrate(s) a propensity or intent to engage in homosexual acts" from serving in the armed forces of the United States, because "it would create an unacceptable risk to the high standards of morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion that are the essence of military capability."

Basically you have o explain why gay banging behind closed doors can affect both the individuals, non-engaged individuals and integrity of the state lol.

LOL, just tell that creeper to stop following me lol.

Anyways I still love you no matter how mean you are to me.

I think I am going to get a jog, this crap is crap.

But asking us to entrench  "sleeping with your's son" into our constitution is  evil.  The same folks who would frown at polygamy and polyandry are quick to judge on homosexul issues in Afica. If homosexuality has been fully accepted in the west, why is the U.S not allowing homosexual unions?

Please go and find out exactly what happened. They were not thrown into prison because of homo union. They were thrown in for announcing there engagements and "gross indecency," basically gay banging. You dont get arrested for that in the US.

polygamy is a useless argument. Its just like asking why are there gun laws in the US. Its harmful to women.

Anyways,
FL Gator would you in any circumstance share me with any woman? Prolly not

Remember apples to apples, oranges to oranges, and not agbalumo to pineapple arguments we get all the time.

FL Gators:
lol. Nigerian men. Honestly, it's hard for me to tell you guys apart from each other sometimes

tell who apart nigerian men ? I think most of them are frustrated and sad just like the women.

Its easy to tell the posts of my stalker. Its very hard for him not to include the words dimwit or slowpoke in his posts,  or to claim to use fact and logic. Also he tends to link out to the subjective posts of others as a form of argument- something that still baffles me today.

We dont want you to choke on your laughter

You mean you lol, I can find 50 people on NL who would cosign the latter.

Yeah those IDs are creepy girl, anytime I see them I start laughing hard. Only a frustrated Nigerian would make such creepy usernames lol. Especially those from an up and coming school (I am so tempted to touch)

Anyways back to topic

Oh, Lawd!!!

So you think people are following you? Grin Grin Grin

I I bet you are frenzily scratching the back of your ear at the moment and staring around thinking the FBI is going to bust in. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

O ti n ya weyree!

here we go again. Deny it, but you have made comments which hint of your stalkering

If you want to make me out as crazy, its your business. However, please stop it.

I guess you are cracking up on your computer, but the feeling is mutual.
PS: British education sucks.

Stop disturbing me

Thatz not Sagamite, those are my IDs, loser

I wish, the guy would make IDs, abandon them when his purpose is done. One of his IDs he kept on referring to a thread he made on NL lol

Hmm, I said stop referring to me or quoting me.  I do love attention but when it becomes too stalkerish I become really disturbed.

Also you know what I am talking about finidiwa and Luthervan, eyesonyou  and your multiple creepy names  

i am currently laughing now

You and EzeUche seems to think that that's the only thing a woman can do. . . . shame on both of you.

Anywaz, dont worry, I'll talk to my second husband, Sagamite, to cease from stalking you.

No, as a proud feminist, I believe women can do many things. Many . . . many things