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FL Gators:
Everyone is feeling funky tonight.

lol SEFAGO, what other forums? Plz I want to be your stalker

Nothing feeling funky, i just hate weirdos, and creepers. Ha my sweetheart, why worry about that one? You should be thinking of cooking food for your husband.

But the guy is funny, it was entertaining at first, but now its becoming disturbing lol. I dont want some psycho to kill me  

Follow you where?

Good leave me alone.

And another conjecture. *Shakes head*

Your business

Dont refer to any of my posts again or to my username. Or follow me to other forums.

redsun:
Sagamite is just an im-becile,he is one of those african educated dummies,a waste pipe.It is like educating a chimp to read,write and recognize objects.

I think its the poor education he got. But I dont even have a problem with that. I just have a problem with his s.h.i.tty creepy attitude lol.

He made a "conjecture" that aids was rampant amongst gays. Scientists have proved otherwise. He wants me to rehash something that was proved by years of scientific research.

Top Uni, I laugh in engrrrish. They teach you to ask s.t.upid questions.

Anyways, I would prefer if the i.d.iot just leaves me alone, and I leave him alone.

And u,what is your own?what ar u ashamed of?U sound as if u are lonely and bored sometimes.

i am bored  , I always like to be engaged 24 hrs. Except when I am engaged with a psycholike your friend .

More conjectures. You have not proven that it is not the case that HIV first became rampart amongst gays.

Because its not possible to prove such. You are asking inane questions and you want me to answer them like a clown. Go to wikipedia, and stop making up stuff, mr facts

Maybe in Georgetown your Haiti article would be sufficient proof. But in top unis, you would be questioned what proof you have that the Type B report was not rampant amongst [closet] gay Haitian men.

Why would a scientist ask such a silly question- when they did not go to a substandard british school? If that was true the obtained gene sequence of an HIV virus, would match up with the hospital records of closeted gays who showed severe symptoms similar to those of AIDs patients.

Simple.  

LOL, you are easy to bait, and you do have an inferiority complex lol. First you make a username to follow me on college confidential, you search for my personal info, then you disturb me online, when I dont talk to you.


Please you dont have to talk to me on NL. I have ignored you as such.


You are sick in the head  , its your kind that should be placed in prison

LOL, everyone here is so weird. i think this place has a high-concentration of weirdos

^ Double standard my arse.

^ LOL, at the obalende suya spot. long tym i went there

And a sexual process that propagated AIDS is not really ideal for population control, when better means are at hand.

. I thot this view was dispelled 20 years ago. Some people are in the wrong decade

redsun response:

Of course it spread among gay people because of promiscuous and unprotected intimacy among them,just like it it did among black heterosexuals even in america for the same reasons

I am ashamed   of saying this but you are correct. You also highlight the rising instances of AIDs in the black population in America. Unprotected s=e=x is responsible for the initial high instances of AIDs in homos. Scientists (Non-gay  ) through sampling have shown that homosexual activity does not contribute to AIDs. But those who use subjective facts claim otherwise.

Ok, I am bored:

Daftee, we are not willing to engage in any moral decadence. The ones we have is already enough.

And a sexual process that propagated AIDS is not really ideal for population control, when better means are at hand.

Is this fact? LOL

Look at redsun teaching:

Like i said before,you are so foolish u don't know what AIDS is all about,even when u claim to be knowledgeable.

Make some research on the origins of AIDS then u will know that is not caused by homosexuals.

Mr graduate from an up and coming university. Learn to read  before you get smacked.

Read on the first identified cases before people start making claims that its was "rampant" amongst certain groups based on "subjective facts".

What goes for facts in some people's minds is hilarious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_AIDS

The first identified case of AIDs was amongst a group of homos. Then it was immediately assumed to be a gay disease. Thats when low IQ people start claiming it was "rampant" amongst the gay community. Usually those of scientists not prone to superstition/stereotyping, would have logically figured out that because something clustered across a certain group does not mean that the disease is unique to that cluster.

Infact these i.d.i.ots assumed that it was isolated to Gay Haitian men, and it was isolated by haiti people. Stereotype number two.

Determining the exact origin of aids would be difficult considering the fact that the virus has several serotypes, but some low IQ people with want to jump science and use "dubious facts." The Virus jumped species, and has always been extant in various primates.

To the subjective mind, locked in the battle of low IQ, poor british education, and lack of perspicacity  , such scientists have "gay agenda" but:

HIV-1 group M subtype B was the first HIV discovered and is the predominant variant of AIDS virus in most countries outside of sub-Saharan Africa. However, the circumstances of its origin and emergence remain unresolved. Here we propose a geographic sequence and time line for the origin of subtype B and the emergence of pandemic HIV/AIDS out of Africa. Using HIV-1 gene sequences recovered from archival samples from some of the earliest known Haitian AIDS patients, we find that subtype B likely moved from Africa to Haiti in or around 1966 (1962–1970) and then spread there for some years before successfully dispersing elsewhere. A “pandemic” clade, encompassing the vast majority of non-Haitian subtype B infections in the United States and elsewhere around the world, subsequently emerged after a single migration of the virus out of Haiti in or around 1969 (1966–1972). Haiti appears to have the oldest HIV/AIDS epidemic outside sub-Saharan Africa and the most genetically diverse subtype B epidemic, which might present challenges for HIV-1 vaccine design and testing. The emergence of the pandemic variant of subtype B was an important turning point in the history of AIDS, but its spread was likely driven by ecological rather than evolutionary factors. Our results suggest that HIV-1 circulated cryptically in the United States for ≈12 years before the recognition of AIDS in 1981.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2141817/?tool=pmcentrez

LOL. I would just ignore the rest of the people here, but I have to address two concerns

1.

slowpoke, amongst which group of people was AIDS first rampant?

Since you are obsessed with facts, and I dont feel like being called a "slowpoke or dimwit" today- go and read on the origin of AIDS and then comeback. Stop spewing lies. AIDs was not first "rampant" amongst homosexuals, this is such bull.s.h.it. I cannot believe someone is saying it in this age or 21st century. It tells you about the lack of critical thinking that goes on in the drone like British schools where they never engage in philosophical discourse or history in class.

Usually the people calling other people morons, are the  . Even redsun who sounds like if he is high is smart enough to identify where the misconception came from.

2.

Next time aim to base arguments on facts.

When you argue and maintain correctness based on "Theories", then it destroys your argument that critical thinking is taught in US universities. More so by basing your arguments on theories by groups well known to quixotically argue based on emotions, rather than sound and pragmatic logic.

Theory is usually built on a combination of facts and observations. Feminist theory is a solid theory, championed by men and women are like. Even the linguistic genius  and philosopher Noam Chomsky, was a champion of feminism. You are ignorant of philosophical discourse but want to comment on it.

Dont worry about US graduates your obsession with them just hints at an inferiority complex. Feminist theory is based on logic, pick a book and read. The lack of critical thinking in British universities- especially those not in the oxbridge category- which shows in their paucity in academic discourse or current nobel prizes is becoming more than obvious.

I'm glad that you know that politicians are in the upper class, yet most of whom don't even earn your 250k limit and trust me, I'm not holding onto anythin

Ok, just put high rung politicians, not all politicians are the same.

manny4life:
Well go figure Ms. Rice is one of America's powerful influential, high class women as Forbes.com once described her, but her salary now at Stanford University as a visiting professor (that is if she's still there), wouldn't be all that. There was no possible way when she was as Secretary of State that she would have served on those boards due to public office interference. How do you mean off the charts? [b]Don't forget, serving on the board doesn't necessarily mean you get paid, quite often than not, board members are non paid at least I studied that in school however, should they be compensated, it should be according to certain standards set by the state which they operate from as well as strict guidelines from the company. [/b]Honestly I forgot how my instructors said they get paid, that is if they do. It's just a honor to serve on a board of company.

First being a professor is not that bad, she will probably be earning 160K a year. Moreover, board of directors do get paid especially in private organizations. There influence brings money, and they want some of that money. I figured she would not be in those positions while as a public official- my point though is that its likely she held those positions after being a public official. Its obvious she got those positions because she is influential, but I think a lot of these politicians get compensated after holding office with lucrative positions in the private sector. This could be because they might have supported legislation that helped private corps especially republicans.

If you are still stuck on the middle class/upper class thing I am still correct lol. Income plays a significant part of your social class, though some people are in the same class in principle because of certain positions they hold. I told you that high-rung politicians are in the upper class, stop holding on lol.

Condoleeza Rice:

She also served on the board of directors for the Carnegie Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the Chevron Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Rand Corporation, the Transamerica Corporation, and other organizations.

All this one for one person. I am sure her salary would not clock 100K, but her annual income would have been off the charts. I dont know if she sat on the boards during her time as secretary of state but this one is too much for anyone

I am always right

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_there_a_standard_accepted_definition_of.html

Look at many people in office, politicians, public servants; judges and justices (in fact the U.S. Chief Justice earns under 250k, less what a wall street guy earn) but this guys are way more powerful, influential etc

Good point- I will further humor you because this goes back to the topic. Yes high rung politicians constitute the upper class, but they would be in the same category as a bus driver who by some warped manner has an income of over 350,000 dollars. All I am trying to say is that there really is not real definition of middle class- sociologist have postulated several models for the different social classes most accepted models are based on income, and then certain groups. But overwhelmingly, income plays an important role in the perceptions of what it means to middle class.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_middle_class#Lower_middle_class

I said, you have to earn that right to be better yet be accepted in that class. In what I said, income and social status, determines how much right you have earned to be in that class. Well, I'm glad you called it perception, and sociological theory, at least I perceived that at least influential govt individuals, depending on their govt level are either middle/upper or higher class individuals though most don't even earn that 250k limit, that is my perception and I will assume it's a generally accepted "sociological theory"so I will rest my case at least for now.

Be accepted by whom? Didn't Ezeuche just call himself middle class, who did he file an application with? He just stated his family's incoe, and what he did was perfectly correct. Middle class perception is always based on income.

the U.S. classifies somewhat of social influence

Is the U.S. a person? Your personification is ambiguous. Used in such way, I am correct to assume that you are talking about the government which personifies the state. I figure what you mean but at least say "In the U.S, the middle class are classified as those with of social influence"

back to topic- I am sure these US politicians get kickbacks somewhere in some form. All people are corrupt- but I doubt that is the real income of the Nigerian government officials, its way less than that if i remember.

I hope the OP did not include allowances as part of the salaries. Nigeria does have a huge allowance package. I should just try and do politics joor.

Turn off! A dude with thousands of loans.

I pity you. Be looking for a rich husband there- you will now find someone as loving and poor as I am

Anywaz. . . . perception?

There is no clear cut definition of the middle-class in the US, and its actually more of an abstract sociological theory. No, the middle class does not have to do with social status in America- I admit it could in other European countries.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2010/03/middle_class_america_1_in_4_st.html

I dont feel like typing essays- I wanna watch mean girls.

Thank you. Like I said before, it has to do with how much you make and how much you have left to spend on yourself jare

Its actually more of a perception, than what you have lol. IMO I am middle class even though I live on indomie and puff puff and owe thousands of dollars on my credit card with no incoming income

The US Government has no way of classifying middle class people as Manny4life wrong claims:

U.S. classifies middle class as people with somewhat societal influence

Yes really, do your research more often. Middle class individuals are quite different from middle income earners. Again, for you to earn the middle or upper class status, you have to earn the right first. When you earn the income as well as the social status, then you have earned that right to be in that class. Financial responsibility has absolutely nothing to do with class; if you earn $75,000 and think you can't manage or it's peanut, I bet you someone everything being equal in terms of earnings, etc will do a lot better. Same applies to people who earn $1million, it still wont be enough. After all there are supposedly wealthly individuals who are flat out broke; that's financial responsibility. As for debt, everyone has debt so deal with it.

They are not lol. Abeg pull 419 on FL Gators eye not my eye biko.

Middle class is a broad term, but I doubt it really has anything to do with "social status" and more about the oney you earn to put you in a certain "social status." A policeman with 0 education status, but a 200K salary will be considered as middle class. It has to do more with money. I believe the US census bureau, uses the middle income percentile, then characterizes the people who cluster this class- Usually educated professionals though this is not always the case.

Ezeuche's parents for example could be one of the numerous taxi cab drivers, and nurses that are pervasive in the tristate area. But through hardwork have managed to make an income of 180K per year. I still think they would be classified as middle class innit?

^ I am not wrong you i.d.iot. I just don't include punctuations on NL except when it is really salient for getting my message across.


=There is no question of presumption, immediately it can be shown that socialization plays an overwhelming role in how we think or act.

Just one comma lol.

I reassert, my writing skills are phenomenal. Go and sleep, or at least learn from me. Your nitpicking is hilarious.

redsun:
Most people struggle because they fail to cut their coats according to their sizes not because they don't get enough.

very true.

U.S. classifies middle class as people with somewhat societal influence

Really? This is a first. I learn more and more on NL

manny4life:
Yo I disagree with that and I can't speak for Nigerians, but the U.S. classifies middle class as people with somewhat societal influence, could be in the local community, city, state or even higher and more often at times, that class particularly is attributed to educated career professionals or otherwise anyone who fits per standards. Please don't tell me if you earning $75,000 a year along with medical benefits, bonus, perks etc that you are struggling. [/b]You not rich quite alright, (I did not say wealthy, I said rich), and you're not poor either. However, you're better of connected to the society than someone who's struggling to earn by the hour. There are so many factors that contribute to being a middle class, in fact the IRS, clearly distinguished it when filling for tax returns.[b] You can afford a home, and if you file dual income returns that's $150,000 in my book, that isn't struggling at least for the most part. Struggling is when you have to wait at the bus stop for 45min in the cold winter, then jump the bus to go earn the peanuts. Struggling is when you take on more debt than you can pay for, struggling is when you have to work two jobs, or stress you backside out for overtime at the end of the day, uncle Sam take more of it compared to you regular wage.

when I meant struggling, I meant you still have petty money problems. I think all the definitions you made is part of an ongoing debate about middle class classification. Like 75,000 dollars would not be enough in expensive places like the North East or even some expensive places in the west cost. Infact an income of 150,000 is as middle class as you get in some areas in the US. Out of that money you will pay mortgage, you will pay college tuition, you will buy food, clothes, furniture- and you know how much american's consume.

150,000 in some states is peanut. Its however Golden in some areas especially rural areas.

EzeUche:
Thank you very much for explaining to these buffoons concerning social classes in the United States.

My parents combined income is around $180,000 a year as a couple. So in essence, I am upper middle class aka petty bourgeoisie

1. Bourgeois, petty bourgeois or whatever= middle class. You struggle, enough with all this english. As long as your family income is not at least 250K+ then you are not making much. your parents combined income is what an average 30 year old working on wall street in new york earns or what the average recent PhD gets.  . Thats as middle class as you can get.

Upper middle class kor, upper middle class ni.

LOL Kildran is taking bk/babe99 seriously.

Anyways welcome to NL kildran, the home of self-aggrandizement and insults. Observe insulting techniques well, because they would come in handy the next couple of months. This is an exciting period for you, because you will learn, that Nigerians have one thing in common that unifies them- Yapping each other.

As you navigate the maze of yabbing on NL, please be aware of the various famous personalities you would meet:

Mekusxyz: The Onitsha village clown who is obssessed with everything Yoruba. the exact reason for his fascination with the children of oduduwa is currently unknown, though famous historians like Illusion1 are digging out the history of mekusxyz and his journey from his village in alaigbo to seek his fortunes in the city of gold- lagos
Bk/babe99: The enigmatic Latin American of honorary Ogbomosho descent. Also as hilarious as mekusxyz. His origins are still unknown, and it is rumored he is actually Yoruba, but he speaks like an African American. Some people claim he is the same as sjeezy8, a renowned lol tribalist (he makes generalist remarks about igbos then claims they are joke) He is obsessed with Ojukwu and Chiogo and consistently harasses the girls on NL. This behiavior of harassing girls suggest that he is likely Nigerian since no one can harass babes more than Nigerian men.
Chiogo: She usually dwells on the Romance threads, ardently looking for someone to love her. She was in a previous relationship with bk/babe99 but broke up with him because he was ogling other girls 9Abekeade, Michelin, e.t.c and guys . She sometimes frequents the politic section though is quite indifferent to most of the ethnic bashing that goes on.


More to come . . .

petty bourgeois social class

kini ele yi?

Just say you are middle class lol. Middle class does not mean much in naija or the US. It just means u dey struggle for survival