₦airaland Forum

ghostfacekillar:
now we are talking. Chai people like you is what we need here. The se ain't gonna frustrate anioma state. It is fellow ss that will try to frustrate it. Xpecially ijaw and what about ogoni who want a state also. The itssekiri also need state that's y prof Sagay ave been an advocate of merging anioma to anambra.

ss aint getting any new state any time soon. The whole nigeria knows it south east turn. It is left for se to come together and agree on one state

Odingo1:
Many of them don't want to be called Igbos like Oliseh and co.

south east shouldnt be for only those 'who want to be called igbos'.

There are ijaws in sw too. And many tribes in nw

pazienza:
They wouldn't get Anioma without our support.

Let's analyze it.

The Ijaws want Oil Rivers state
And the Ogojas want Ogoja state.

Anioma would have to contend with those two groups in SS for a single slot.

Our support would not come for free, as no one ever gives Ndiigbo free support in Nigeria, so it's about time we started doing same.

If Anioma want our support, then they must cross over to SE. If they don't want, then they should go try their luck against Ogojas and Ijaws.

It's very simple.

i created this thread bro...wat exactly do u think i was talking about.

Wat u wrote here is exactly wat i mean. We need more lands in se...anioma is our close kins and they need their state..if we wrk together then everybody gets wat they want

Odingo1:
The way I am seeing many of them I have interacted with, they will prefer to remain in Delta state.

u have interacted with SOME of them...not many of them.

Let me ask u again. Does south east have a central govt? So exactly how will they be affected by joining SE negatively?

Are all states not independent? Will se govs tell anioma gov wat to do..if he doesnt like?

An anioma man will rather get anioma state...even if in se than remain with the urobos

pazienza:
The Anioma part should be removed and replaced with any of the other 6 you listed, if their stakeholders won't guarantee the transfer of the new state to SE.

We won't be shortchanged ever again in Nigeria.
The era of allowing opportunists exploit our emotional politics, must end.

i think the proposed orimiri state includes onitsha and anioma together.

Not good for anambra

Odingo1:
OK but in reality Anioma people will not like to join SE for anything.

well that is not true. U will say that if given a choice that they will choose ss.

Hwever ss already has 6 states. So only se will get a new state anytime soon. So the anioma will have 2 options..join se as a state or remain in delta as a senatorial zone.

Which do u think they will go for?

Odingo1:
Anioma want a state that will remain in SS. Have you ever heard them say that Anioma state should be joined with SE, it is only few of them and more of Igbos saying that.

If you give Anioma opportunity to vote, they will vote for their state to remain in SS.

Let the Igbos go for a state from SE, except if Anioma people meet with SE people and declare their interest for their state to join SE.

the point of the thread is for se leaders to help anioma state under the agreement that they would join se.

Do u now understand?

Chiwude:
Please leave us in peace with your IPOB talk. We’re not interested in such propaganda that was buried after the end of the war. The Ika’s are not interested in such nonsense and so are we.

so because some ika say they are not igbo therefore anioma should not be joined to se?

Hope u are igbo bro? Are u here to divide us?

Juliusmalema:
[s]na like this u wan achieve igbo unity

we go help u scatter am.....idibero serious.....

u dictate who is igbo and want to achieve biafra....u are not serious...

let's watch as the game goes.....nonsense.[/s]

u are too small to divide igbos

ghostfacekillar:
I joined an anioma group on fb. If u see how they attacked the guy simply because he asked is anioma igboland. I was depressed about that. Some of them claimed that the enuani language they spoke was a language shift. That originally they speak edo. But some stood their ground that they are igbo while others where bashing the guy. U see y pazienza is afraid. Pls don't fault him

agreement signing is well and good. But anioma being igbo or not should not determine if they can join se.

Emycord:
SO pazienza Now Determines Who Is Igbo And Who Is Not? oya Ask Him What Makes One Igbo Lets See His Answer Since Anioma Is Not Igbo. If Anioma Is Not Igbo Then No One Has A Right To Be Igbo An Anioma Person Is As Much An Igbo Person As His Igbo Brother In Any State They Find Themselves. Not Less Not More An Anioma Person Is Not A Fringe Igbo #SAYNOTOIGBODIVISION
#IGBOISONE
#ANYIBUOFU
#OLUNAIGBO

the dude u quoted aint igbo

Emycord:
IJAW IN SW And Edo Are Proudly Ijaw But Igbo Outside Se Should Not Be Proudly Igbo Abi? May God Have Mercy On You. So You Mean AniomaFirstSon Is Not Proudly Igbo? Or That Joe achuzie Lived In vain As A Biafran Igbo?. Do You Judge The Anioma People Based On Words Of Importors ON FaceBook? Since When Did FaceBook Post Become A Yardstic Igbohood?

the pazienza guy sef tire me. Na all those anti biafra igbos

pazienza:
You need to wake up from your delusion of grandeur.

Anioma state cannot be created for Ndiigbo(SE), it can only be created for Ndi Anioma, they are the ones to push for it in NASS, and we can decide to support or not support, depending on if they are willing to put pen to paper to our agreement.

Only Anioma people can decide where they want to belong, you can't do that for them. You can't ignore the detachment from Igbo tag going in Anioma together, just so because you don't want to hear about it. Those who ignore realities would only end up getting hurt by it, as they are usually not prepared for the exigencies it might through on their path, in the nearest future.

Anioma can decide to stay in SS after getting created through our support, and there is nothing we can do about that. We can however prevent that from happening, which is why I'm making my current proposal, having taken a wholesome look at the situation.

lol it means u are not even getting the point.

Only se has less states than others...so only se is getting a state anytime soon. Many states are being proposed for se including anioma.

Are u telling me that if fg decides to creat anioma state for south east, anioma on its own will decide to join ss? Can abia state on its own decide to join ss?

Wat u can say is that they might join the se and be doing their things differently. Like edo is always not standing where ss states are standing. But will u then say that edo can just decide on its own to join sw?

pazienza:
Ijaw people in SW are proudly Ijaws, likewise the Ijaw people in Edo state. Maybe if you let that sink in, you would stop being emotional, and for once, start being pragmatic.

Don't let few of their people deceive you, Anioma people in general, has no interest in being in SE, they resent the Igbo tag, and wouldn't have anything to do with Ndiigbo, least of all, being lumped in same group political zone with Ndiigbo.


I had taken time to visit facebook pages of all these groups and studied the general feeling of their people towards us, and believe you me, what I discovered wasn't pleasant at all.

Without a written binding published legal agreement, duely signed and publicized by all traditional rulers in Anioma and their relevant political stake holders, agreeing to transfer Anioma to SE upon creation.

Ndiigbo would be the biggest fools of all fools to leave our various state demands in SE to support Anioma people.

u have started talking like a yoro moslem
Igbos are so bad...everybody hate us yen yen yen.
Did u hear wen pat utomi said he was igbo?

Listen to urself...so if nass decide to create one more state for SE zone and we tell them to create anioma for us...then after creation anioma will suddenly bcom a ss state.

Bro...if u want me to take u serious...talk smart and talk sense

aniomafirstson:
Pazienza is beginning to act as an enemy of ndigbo. That's the painful truth

leave him.

hammer6F:
HOW CAN ANYBODY CREATE ANIOMA STATE AND ADD THEM TO SOUTHSOUTH AND THE REST OF THE SOUTHEAST ACCEPT THAT NONSENSE?


IT IS LIKE THEY PREVIOUSLY DID WEN THEY ADDED ANIOMA TO SOUTHWEST.


THE ONLY WAY, ANIOMA CAN BE LEGIMATELY RETAINED IN SOUTH SOUTH, IS IF ESAN AND ISOKO ARE PART OF ANIOMA STATE.

I DONT SEE ANIOMA STATE INCLUDING ANY MINORITIES.

Anioma can only be a south east

Emycord:
ANIOMA State To Be Included In Which Geo-Political Zone? While We In The South East Feel We Want An Extra State To Compliment Us And Have An Array Of Our Own People Outside Our Zone We Want To Bring In Politically Via Rivers State Or Delta axis, Our kit And Kin In These Who Feel Igbo In Essence And pratice Do Not Wish To One With Us Politically In Se. So What Do You Do In Such Case Thats Is What Is The Issue. And This Is As A Result Of The Civil War And Its AttendanT Effect. As The Se Suffers From Federal neglect, Our Brother Do Not Wish To Go Same Lane With Us. But I Have A Word For Them A Lesson From Moses Who Chose To Suffer With His People And eventualy Save Them From Egypt. Until We Come As One Salvation Will Elude Us As A Group Or Tribe

ur last sentence is wat i like. If they join us in south east...then we are gradually coming together

hammer6F:
THE OIL RIVER STATE IS DEAD ON ARRIVAL.

WAT THEY REALLY WANT IS KALABARI STATE WITH THE KALABARI FROM RIVERS AND BAYELSA.

BONNY AND OPOBO STAYS WITH RIVERS.

OGONI REMAINS WITH RIVERS ALONGSIDE OKIRIKA.

to me all i need in south east is an access to the sea and all igboid territories.

Ogoja is not really my preference

hammer6F:
AT SOME POINT SE WILL HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE NON-IGBOS.

WE ALREADY DO THAT IN ANAMBRA WITH THE IGALA.

IT MAKES US A BETTER PEOPLE.

RIVERS CAN DO DAT WITH OGONI TO GET OPOBO AND BONNY FOR SEA FRONT.

u know wat i mean exactly. Thank u bro

hammer6F:
RIVERS IS NEVER LANDLOCKED, OPOBO AND BONNY WILL REMAIN AS PART OF RIVERS, ALONGSIDE OGONI, GIVING THEM ACCESS TO THE SEA.

music to my ears. This is wat we should clamour for first. Wen we get all igboland under south east, next tin would be to clamour for regional govt

pazienza:
I took time to post details of Dr Chukwuma Nwaonicha presentation at Anioma conference in USA.

It says alot About the direction Anioma is heading to, that Nwaonicha would be offered the stage By Anioma people to point at SE with leprous fingers, and cap it all up, by telling us that Anioma is not Igbo, and left the stage with a thunderous applause and ovation.

The macabre dance is real. Any Igbo person championing Anioma state creation, would need to have his head checked.


Ogwuchaa ka ora m n'onu. Onye Ajulu, anaghi aju onwe ya.

good..now let it go.

Being igbo or not should not qualify or disqualify states from joining south east.

Sw has ijaw ppl. Nw has non hausa ppl..se doesnt need to have only igbo ppl.

They say they are not igbos? Fine. Let them say it from anioma state in south east

hammer6F:
THE SOUTH SOUTH SHOULD FIRST GET A KALABARI STATE.

WAT IS LEFT SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO AS RIVERS STATE, JUST THE NAME CHANGE.

thats another option

hammer6F:

leave that dude...if he is from anambra then sultan of sokoto is from ebonyi

ghostfacekillar:
lol i ave lost hope that place. Ikwerre is four local government. Even etches. Ogbas. Ndoni. Opobo ibani. All this people speaks igbo language and answers igbo name. It would ave been better they formed one big ethnic group but instead they divided themselves even more. Am ikwerre. Am ekpaohia. Am etche. . Stuffs like dat. They think we want their oil. Onitsha is enough for us at least the river niger if dredged will epp us.

those ones are still doable.

North west already has 7 states so the other regions can also agitate for their 7th state after we get anioma.

We get anioma 1st and weigh the mood of the country...then we agitate for ikwerestate for south east

The north doesnt have monopoly of stupidity

pazienza:
The Anioma people are peaceful, hardworking and accommodating. Besides Delta State, Anioma people can also be found in Igbanke, Ogan, Iru, Owa Nikeke, Ekpon and Abudu areas of Edo State, Onitsha, Obosi, Ogidi, Ozubulu and Orifite areas of Anambra State, Oguta area of Imo State and Ndoni area of Rivers State. The Anioma people are educated, industrious, innovative and exposed. The rich diverse and unique cultural heritage of the Anioma people distinguished them from other ethnic nationalities in Nigeria.

The second question: Are Anioma people Igbos?
There have been several debates about the true origin of the Anioma people and the language they speak. There is a strong belief that the Anioma people are Igbos and that they speak Igbo language. To keep the record straight, the Anioma people are not Igbos and they do not speak Igbo language. The Anioma people speak, "Enuani, Ika and Ukwuani languages".

We are proud of our identity; our identity is our pride, strength and unifying factor. Our Anioma attire (Akwa Anioma) is recognized anywhere in the world. There may be similarities in some Anioma and Igbo names: such as Chukwuma, Chukwuka, Chukwudi, Ngozi, Udoka, among other names that have the same spellings, pronunciations and meanings like that of the Igbos but, the fact remains that we are not Igbos. We may also have some similarities in language that does not make us Igbo people.
The Aniocha and Oshimili though are closer to the Anambra people cannot be referred to as Igbo people. The same could be said of Owa people in Ika North East Local Government whose ancestral home is believed to be Nri, in Anambra State. The Ndokwa and Ukwuani areas are a mix of different peoples, some with a strong claim to Benin ancestry while others claim to different origin. The Abohs and some clans in the region claimed to have left Benin in the 16th century or earlier in the same wave of migration that established most of the Igbo speaking towns West of the Niger and even Onitcha in the East. Some sections of the Abohs believed that they are direct descendants of people from Benin while others look across the Niger into the Igbo hinterland as their origin, yet some even look far up the Niger, Igala as their ancestral home.

bro stop doing this. Wat is the point?

hammer6F:
WEN THE IGBOLAND IS UNITED, WE ARE FORMIDABLE.

THAT IS WHY WE SAY IGBO KWENU!

IGBOZURUME!

my kind of language

Klinee:
Boast of what? Oil or what? common pack one side!
How can I compare anioma with entire SE, are they up to a section in Anambra state

we dont need this hear...we need one mind. The north is winning will we keep dividing ourself

hammer6F:
THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL BE LEFT IS RIVERS.

WE WILL CAPTURE DEM TOO AND HAVE A SEA FRONT.

so u know wat i mean since? A viable south east that can breakout on its own without attaching to all of ss

hammer6F:
I AM NOT INTERESTED IN BREAKING UP ANAMBRA IN THE NAME OF STATE CREATION.

ANAMBRA IS SMALL ENOUGH ALREADY.

this matter has rested. Anioma is only for delta state

fero007:
If you understood the ikwerre, it depends on the dialect of the ikwerre. In PH, I know how many Igbos come for the first time and say they can't understand the ikwerre they hear. But apart from language ikwerre n ukwuani have other qualities that shows they different tribes.

And you're seriously bring Google's definition of ikwerre, same google will tell you isoko is urhobo, and efik is Ibibio.

I've noticed only those from the 3 major tribes will say ikwerre, ukwuani, ika is Igbo and itsekiris is Yoruba. Ikwerre themselves always hammer that they are not Igbo, and I've never heard an itsekiris saying he's a yoruboid person.

I STILL MAINTAIN! YOU CANT KNOW PEOPLE'S CULTURE BETTER THAN THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES

it took Egbert of Wessex many years to convince the 4 kingdoms of england that they are actually one english ppl. If the british guys didnt lump north and south together...the ikwere ppl would have been in an igbo nation.

The fact that u even say that btw the ikwere themselves that there are different dialects shows u wat am saying is true. I come from udi and i find it difficult to hear igbo spoken by some other udi towns in d same enugu state.

Wat makes an ikwere man to be non igbo and an abiriba man to be igbo?
U say they have other things that make them different from igbos....wat are those things exactly. I hear duncan mighty wen he is speaking his igbo.

Funny...the british chose to build the eastern port in ikwereland because they believed they were riverine igbos. (The british had a policy of allowing the major tribe in a region or nation to dominate.) The ikwere then didnt say they were not igbos because it benefitted them then. It was in 1979 that ikwere became a tribe in nigeria...after oil politics began in nigeria.

Of course the igbos want to regain wat they lost

Klinee:
Instead of fighting for anioma state as a South Easterners channel the energy to more states being cave out in South East region.
These anioma folks deserves your zero support, simple.

more states being carved up from little states of se means less viability of south east states plus increased over-head cost of running the state.

Plus the fact that south east is very dense. We need extra lands.

Plus the fact that if nigeria ever break up...we may lose anioma to a niger delta republic 4eva

ghostfacekillar:
who told u that if igbos are allow to create a state. Either anioma state or the igbos in middle belt ave u been to there bfore. They are suffering

u are saying d same thing