₦airaland Forum

0jgti7gko08yhfe:
The north wanted out in 1953, before independence.

Araba was used by protesters (especially Bauchi demonstrators) after Ahmadu Bello and other northern elites were murdered. The unitary system imposed by Aguiyi worsened the situation. It was used as a chant to avenge the deaths of those elites.

It's just a slang word synonymous with "kill Igbos", and not "secession"..

Again, Araba wasn't a call for secession, but vengeance.




Yes, it means "separate" in Hausa. But it wasn't actually a call for secession, but vengeance - a violent kind of protest, especially in Bauchi.

Just like #EndSars, which, though means "end Sars", is synonymous with End bad government.

kevapet:
Folks like you, rosskkiiku, monogamy a.k.a helinues, sarrki, uptimum123, blinking001, tunjiajayi, omonnakoda, and other one nijeriyanist really think Yorubas like me want out because of fulanis, bullhari or whatever politics? SMH. The north and south are two different entity. Majorly muslim country like the north doesn't do well with western democracy, northern african countries are typical example of what major muslim countries that are free of western influence, now compare it with sudan and somalia that was forcing it. Where as the south needs democracy as it's heavily western influenced. So how do you expect us to grow with two separate laws in one forceful country

Coronabirus:
How can a war without death be called a war?
Man, get ready for genocide before u even think struggle. Bodies will fall, starvation will spread, investment will perish in a blink of an eye, people will dersert their homes for IDPs en masse before UN come in and offer peace talk; this is after the warriors are either perished or made many perished and have no financial or delusional expected foreign support.
Ethiopia and Tigray conflict is a good example!

Rosskiiku:
Did Ecowas passport stop the Ghanaian govt from imposing 1 million dollar per Igbo trader charge, before Buhari came to your rescue?

What makes you think Nigeria will allow you to continue profiting freely in Nigeria with some stupid Ecowas passport?

Don't kid yourself. If you're out, YOU WOULD BE OUT.

It will NOT be business as usual.

No more luxury bus trips from Onitsha or Aba to Lagos on business and pleasure.

Igbos would be thrown out of Lagos and other Nigerian cities, and deported en masse to the East.

No more access to Abuja, unless you crawl to the Nigerian embassy in Enugu first, to apply for a visa.

ONCE YOU CROSS THAT NIGER BRIDGE, YOU WILL NEED TO SHOW YOUR VISA to Nigerian border guards.

Even with your visa, you will still pay heavy egunje on top to pass through.

Before you mention 'Ecowas', one of them has given you a dirty slap.

THAT is what 'break-up' means.

It's like a giant deciding to become an ant.

Rosskiiku:
By the time Nigeria deports millions of you back to the East, unemployment will shoot up in your region, and crime, robbery, rape, etc will rise exponentially. There would be no Fulanis to blame.

Rosskiiku:
You don't speak for Igbos.

Speak for yourself.

I bet those Igbo businessmen in Alaba and Sabon Gari see things very differently, not to mention heavyweights like INNOSON, Air Peace, Ibeto Cement, and the many Igbo manufacturers who need access to the Nigerian market to thrive.



There might be. If Nigeria feels enough pity for your landlocked banana republic led by IPOB thugs.

Rosskiiku:
Stop talking rubbish.

Which election was rigged?

The Buhari election was generally ok, and was certified by international observers.

The entire nation was fed up of Jonathan.

The days of rigging elections in Nigeria are generally over.

The judiciary has far more independence now to arbitrate disputes.

It's very hard to get away with rigging today, most especially in presidential elections.

And I'm telling you this as someone who observed Nigerian elections from the Shagari era till date.

You have no idea what election rigging is.

sreamsense:
UK is just being proud and interested in showing seed of discord that will further disintegrate this country. If they can give it to anybody as justified, is it by giving it to terrorists? UK should extend it to Bokoharam, Al-shabab and other terrorist organizations if giving useless asylum is hungry them.

I wouldn't be surprised if these people started paying UK back by developing their country with illegal drug businesses, baby factory businesses and terrorism. UK may grow one day to reap the seed of what they are trying to sow now in the name of logically insulting Nigeria

Jerryherd:
Babangida did more , Obasanjo massacred odi, Zaki, biam people ... Nothing , I repeat nothing happened... Sergeant Rogers and Major Almustapha are still enjoying their pension

Abdul05:
the Igbo's didn't quite realise that Buhari was brought to power by some people that contributed so much to the running of his government.


Balancing of ideas, principle and policies just have to follow, Nothing like marginalization of south east

my advice , use politics to fight back for ur own betterment not counter Rebellion

Bouz:
Why are you like dis guy. No be competition na

EKONGKING:
BIAFRA will be a great country , If criminal people among igbo continue their drug business in china, india and world , without a condemnation from elders . We (other minorities) in biafra would be forced to look for other option.
kindly dont disappoint.

AnanseK:
Good riddance , all of us Nigerians want this referendum . We are tired of IPOBs. But will the millions of Igbos making a living in Lagos,Ibadan , Kano, Kaduna, Warri, Sokoto, Port Harcourt, Birnin Kebbi, Benin, Akure, Yola , Maiduguri, Makurdi, Ilorin and Jos . Will they vote yes for this referendum and go back to the erosion ridden tiny enclave? You know that strict immigration laws will apply.

Britain can give what they describe as asylum, But I don’t know how Britain can authorize a referendum.

Tajbol4splend:
The North will do everything in their means to make sure Nigeria doesn't divide because they have everything to lose but Nigeria can't be forever, we Yorubas want to be, Igbos want to be, so how will the North do this, for how long can they hold it

Monogamy:
Though not justifying the killing but was he allowed to graze around the forest reserve?

Omoslim26:
Firstly your father is a leader in his own stead.

So if your father f up the best punishment is for the youths to gather and beat up an elderly man like him.

what part of Igbo are you from plss

Are you an advocate for jungle justice��

This is unbelievable.

tufiakwa.

hollah123:
no,u haven't answered.

How do u intend to go about seccesion without seccesion clause in d constitution?

hollah123:
y are my even stressing myself about u,so u can beat your father if u believe what he did isn't right?

hollah123:
guy it's one step at a time,u are asked a question answer it then u can ask a question.

u answer first n bring your own question,I know u will surely dodge it n instead of answering it this time again u will look for another escape route.

Answer my question first n I will give u detailed analysis on your question

Omoslim26:
Then your Igbo is obviously different from my own Igbo.

So if your father Bleep up you will beat him in public ���??

tufiakwa.

hollah123:
if u like bark for 100years,just 1 question will bring you back to your senses.

They will just ask u

Mr man,we heard it's been long u have been on your seccesion agenda please can u signify anywhere in the constitution where there is seccesion clause or how do u intend to go about it?


bro answer that question without dodging it cos I can see u are passionate about d struggle

hollah123:
u are making sense

hollah123:
the same Yoruba n northerners he hated with passion right,u people see this scammer as your God to see him as someone of value,if u die he will never miss u for a second cos his mission is to sacrifice 5 million Igbos youths

hollah123:
so if we elect an Igbo president n he does what u ain't comfortable with,that's how u will beat him all in the name of our kinsmen right?

Omoslim26:
In Igboland we don't beat up Elders.

Yes we may criticize, chastise and even call them out when they f up. but we don't beat them up, dats �% anti Igbo.

hollah123:
both d presidency n Biafra una no go get, know that now n know peace.

Even Biden will tell u to follow provisions in d constitution,even Putin will ask u y do u think there's a constitution so know for sure that your seccesion rubbish is dead on arrival n also as regards presidency,hope u remember it's democracy where u can vote n b voted for?

Omoslim26:
The person you are asking us to support has too much anti Igbo traits.

A man who suspended his Dp just on the call for accountability is questionable in all sense.

What you should ask Igbos to do is to come out and front an agenda.

Let's carry a vision and project it with one voice.

We can't be agitating for seccession and leave our leaders to be planning on elections in the existing failed union.

We can't be agitating for break up of this failed country and we still have people voting for a govt that stands against break up

The only movement I consider reasonable and productive is the one that directs all agitation directly at our political and traditional leaders, if we take the protest to the front door of every political and traditional structure and strong hold that would be a game changer.

The reality is that the FG is not obliged to do the biddings of Ipob or anyother seccessionist group, ipob cannot sit and negotiate with the FG on referendum, it's the leaders of the region that will present the case and request of the people to the existing govt and demand for renegotiation.

NigeriaIsZOO:
I can feel your pains and disappointment which is very apparent. However, I will respond to your emotional outbursts as logical as possible.

1st paragraph, are you trying to compare Nigeria to China in global diplomatic circle or what? China is a very powerful and very influential country, now almost at par with the US. They have what it takes to fight any country to a standstill over Hong Kong and no nation or global organization can intimidate them, not even US or UK! On the contrary, Nigeria is a third world, poor, highly dependent and very weak country. A couple of sanctions and threats by global bodies like UN is enough to make its government to grovel and beg.

2nd and 3rd paragraph, UK may no longer be the powerful Great Britain it used to be but trying to write them off is just wishful thinking. UK alongside Germany and France remain Europe's most influential countries. UK's traditional alignment with US makes them even more influential. UK can easily reach out to America and make them see reasons why Nigeria should be hit with crippling sanctions and possible external invasion should they refuse to comply and accept a referendum, especially if there is widespread loss of lives.

4th and 5th paragraph. You really seem to overestimate Nigeria's strength or capabilities. FYI, Nigeria is as weak, dependent and fragile as any poor third world country. It seems you don't understand how such scenario plays out but I will enlighten you. Britain does not need to send boots on the ground. However, once Britain becomes all out to subdue such recalcitrant Nigerian government, they will start with massive media attacks, international diplomacy and severe undermining of Nigeria's interests which will culminate in crippling sanctions on our oil exports, embargo on financial transactions with Nigeria, embargo on arms supply to Nigeria, sanctions on the president, his family, ruling party and anyone that identifies with them. Do you think Nigeria can survive a month under such scenario??

6th and 7th paragraph. Lol, it is Nigeria that has always seen Britain as its Lord and personal saviour. It was Britain that protected and provided all your needs both diplomatically, arms wise and logistically. Isn't it funny that you now turn around to accuse others of what you've been doing perennially over the years?

Last paragraphs. You're obviously living in the past. No one is setting anyone up and neither did France set Ojukwu up. These are just figments of your own imagination. If you think there would be another territorial war like Biafran/Nigerian war then it shows you're not a critical thinker. The most Nigeria can fight now is a guerilla warfare and you won't have the opportunity to use airstrikes or blockade to kill millions like you're dreaming. On the contrary, you would be fighting IPOB armed wing in the jungles and highways with occasional run-ins in the cities. The moment you leave that to start bombing markets or schools will only hasten the involvement of the UN. Remember there are American and French bases in Niger, Cameroun and Chad which makes it very easy for them to subdue Nigeria very easily. Also remember that once Yoruba people realize that Biafran has become achievable, they would immediately begin their own fight to establish Oduduwa. Which means in essence, it becomes a war between Arewa that is now surrounded against Biafra, Oduduwa and UN. How on earth do you think you can sustain such war beyond a few months??

Rosskiiku:
The UK giving IPOB terrorists asylum does not imply Nigeria will break up, any more than the UK granting Hong Kong activist Nathan Law asylum means China will break up.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/09/china-blasts-uk-asylum-hong-kong-nathan-law

You truly overestimate the power of the UK.

They are just one fcking HAS BEEN colonial power of yesteryear, with no influence over any sovereign nation of Nigeria's status.

If the NIGERIAN GOVT says no part of Nigeria shall secede, THAT'S THE END OF THAT, whatever Britain thinks.

If you want to go to war, make we fight, and we shall turn the East to a parking lot.

If you think Britain will send her soldiers to fight and die for you, you have another think coming.

If you think Britain will send you weapons to fight Nigeria, you are the most deluded goat on the planet.

Mumu people. Dependent, colonised, and slave-minded.

Waiting on your slave master to save you from his own creation.

If you people had basic geopolitical common sense, you would be seeking alliances with nations like North Korea, Iran and Cuba, not Britain.

Those are the sort of rebel, anti-imperialist nations that do 'freedom fighting'.

That do surreptitious armaments shipments and stockpiling.

That send mercenaries to fight for freedom.

When Angola was fighting for freedom, they built alliances with Fidel Castro's Cuba, who sent in military assistance to the MPLA who fought against the western-backed UNITA forces that supported the status quo.

The Angolans understood geopolitics.

But you 'Biafrans'? Dumb as bricks.

Like Ojukwu, you foolishly go crawling to the same imperialists that enslaved and colonised you and raped your mothers, expecting them to be 'good' to you this time.

Britain is likely just setting you guys up for another slaughter.

This was the same way France deceived Ojukwu, and pretended to support 'Biafra'.

When push came to shove they refused to supply weapons to Biafra, and you were left to fight with cutlass and catapult and your primitive Ogbunigwe.

This time you will fight with sticks and stones and lose 10 million people instead of the usual 2 million.

Geopolitical neophytes.