JaceBlaze: This why it's very important to make sure that you ration that egusi thing in small portions, because if not it ends up trickling into the brains and you start talking crazy,thus Seppuku...like WTF?
"I’m trying to free your mind, Jace. But I can only show you the door. You’re the one that has to walk through it"
FYI. The egusi is what made the average West African more robust, taller and much more muscular in statue more so than the average 5ft 3 inch pap and cabbage eating South African male, so the portion sizes worked wonders.
JaceBlaze: Stop filling your head with delusions and pseudo-intellect nonsense.
You know what, I was wrong about you. You are not akin to "cypher". You are worse, an "AGENT" of this system. The same system that we are trying to destroy.
LordLicifer: I see, and also ask the same question the news reporter guy asked, why are they in court? She is clearly a South african. What is the dispute? Infact, she is a full south african considering her grandfather's marriage to a south african.she is even more South African than Nigerian. I think she will win the case, i hope she claims a huge monetary compensation for the humiliation and trauma
As more facts come out the story is becoming even more convuluted for me as well. I did not know the information about her grandfather until now.
It seems they are trying to tie the fact that her Grandfather was a legal resident when married to her grandmother who was allegedly Zulu and then had Chidinma's mother who very likely did not correctly claim SA citizenship at that time that would transfer to her daughter but instead obtain and ID at the time of her birth fraudulently.
It is a known fact that Homeaffairs has failed numerous times in interpreting South African citizenship or immigration law and have lost cases.
A famous one is when they try to take citizenship away from South Africans who had obtained citizenship of a different country without informing the minister.
They were taken to court and lost the case eventually.
Euromillion200: The truth is that I've left South Africa since I was a teenager I never really enjoyed being in South Africa due to so much corruptions and ignorant of the overwhelming majority of the blacks..chidinma is a South African by the virtue of birth and not of her parents nationality period.
Johnboom: She deserves everything she gets even more. She is ungrateful for all what Nigerian did for her. What is so special about South Africa anyway?
The bearing on this case has nothing to do with if she doesn't want to live in Nigeria. That is a judgement purely based on "emotions". The application of law works differently.
As the saying goes "if men were angels, we would not need laws to govern them"
LordLicifer: As i said, the claim isn't an issue but proving it beyond doubt might be an issue, I can claim to be born in Ghana but what proofs do i have to back my claim up?
Birth certificate which it seems she has presented. I haven't heard any rebuttal to that.
LordLicifer: Okay, if she has claimed nigerian citizenship that isn't going to help her case because that would be a good reason for her been asked to leave South Africa.
Correct.
LordLicifer: Why would they put her through the courts knowing that they might lose? It would flaw their reputations, i suspect they may have a good ground hence the law suit
Deportations are administrative and procedural and can be contested which is what she is doing.
JaceBlaze: I thought you wanted me to open my mind. Why would you suggest the one that keeps me in ignorance?..Chai!!
In the world of the matrix, you are a similar to the one known as "cypher' - "disillusioned with the harsh reality of the real world, longing to return to the simulated comforts of the matrix."
JaceBlaze: Ohhh what an alternative,next time we'll do better and take your advice
Your choice.
JaceBlaze: It's a whole asylum down here.We are have anger issues.Not a safe place for African "hardworkers"
I am so glad we live in the 21st century where therapy and medication exist to deal with those issues. Advice your comrades to seek it out. The hospitals are now empty eh?
JaceBlaze: And I never wanted to understand anyway so you are welcome.
Doesn't take away from the truth of it now does it?
JaceBlaze: Given a deadline to pack it all up and leave, arrogantly refused and started calling us names and when the energy is reciprocated appropriately we are still the bad guys? Ookaay!
Alternatively, you could just ignore the "migrants" as much as you can just like you do the white people. There's many ways to skin a cat, no?
LordLicifer: Then why not fu**IMG leave if the let the "unhealed people" be?
I am glad at least you admit your people are suffering from Post apartheid traumatic stress disorder
Mrexcell: That can't still equate to ur life and personal safety imagine getting killed or physically harmed in the same country u see as ur own not worth it, there are so many developed countries that's better than SA that's ready to welcome her if she decides to relocate.
My wish is that she wins the case but still leaves the country.
But credibilities play positive part in court, as it appears, fundermentally her credibility is vague on how her mother obtained her citizenship, she may have been born in South Africa but she would have to proof beyond reasonable doubt that she is a South africa citizen by birth as been born in SA wouldn't be enough proof that she is a South African. Authentic birth certificate if she has any might just be her remdemption..
The claim that she was born in South Africa has not been disputed by home affairs otherwise it would have come up by now so I doubt that will be an issue.
LordLicifer: Another chance is, she can claim asylum on the ground of statelessness should she lose the case even that might be shakey been that it has been estabilished that her mother is a Zambian.
Unfortunately she has claimed her Nigerian citizenship and therefore cannot be deemed stateless nor can she claim asylum on any grounds at the moment cause she is not running away from anything. Her case will soley be based on her "ties" to South Africa.
LordLicifer: Before the SA government took the case to court they knew they have a chance of winning the case.
Not necessarily. They are following procedure so as to be compliant with the law.
Euromillion200: It does, chidinma was born before the law was changed.
That is correct but what must be considered now is the authenticity of her birth in South Africa and if one of her parents was indeed "legal" in the country before her birth.
This case will set some sort of precedence with situations like hers which is why all eyes are on her at this point. Coupled with the intrinsic dislike that some South Africans have for Nigerians the opponents would not want her to win the case soley based on an "emotional" or "nationalistic" basis but it boils down to how the law should be applied to her without fear or favor.
We shall see in the end.
PS. I admire how some of you Southgerians who are able to navigate South African society with its general fear of being replaced by a minority group like yourselves.
I think she is trying out her luck with the court case but yes if I were her at this point, I would use whatever connections I have to get myself situated somewhere else because of the threat to my life.
I do feel for the girl being that when she first stepped out for this paegent, she genuinely believed she was South African.
LordLicifer: She will lose the case considering that it is said that her mother obtained South african citizenship by deception
Not that simple.
1. The fact that she was and infant and the culpability of the crime can be argued in terms of punishment. 2. There is no counter evidence to the fact that she was born in South Africa and there are certain additional "conditions" under this event that may give and individual the ability regularize her stay.
The sentiment by the country against her is what may count against her but as far as the law is concerned, she has a shot.
Samantha125: I'm telling you about lawyers and you're telling me about a single lawyer... It's obvious her family also has some ties to the underworld considering the fact that her mother obtained her identity documents fraudulently.
But like I said, let me keep quiet and mind my business... Continue enjoying your overrated Cape Town.
Na wa o, so if you are able to bribe a Home Affairs officer back then around the 2000's you are automatically involved in the criminal underworld.
yinkeys: Jacinta thé hero Probably sent by Isral to shake up that country Just revenge for filing a case again them on behalf of the Palestinians Now that country is gradually welcoming disorderliness Soon Oranians🇳🇱 will carve out their country for good, valuable excuse to do so Conquered lands
There is a covert movement that is being funded to push anti-immigration movements around western styled democracies and I am not surprised its reached the shores of South Africa.
Samantha125: If top lawyers who are supposedly living in secured areas within Cape Town can still get gunned down during broad daylight, then who's Chichi?
I honestly never understood this hype you guys have behind Cape Town... But anyways, let me keep quiet and mind my business.
Yes Yes, anyone can get gunned down anywhere in capetown but the likelihood of that happening to her to is much less than if she lives in boksburg.
FYI. That lawyer who got shot at the school was heavily involved in the underworld.
SURElee: Must this Chidinma Adeshina stay in South Africa? Isn't there any other place she and her family can stay? Must she stay there? Isn't there Canada and other places? Even if she wins this court battle, they can still shoot her. The people who shot their own Lucky Dube thinking he was Nigerian, na she dem no go kpai? Mschewww!
Queengee: True. Her lack of knowledge as a child could be a strong defense, but any immigration violations she personally committed would be judged on their own merits.
More also, We'll have to see what the evidence shows. If the illegal entry allegation isn't proven, Home Affairs' case could be significantly weaker.
I am not sure of the all the details but it is alleged that she entered back into South Africa via the mozambican border but if she did then on what passport did she enter cause Nigerians are not visa free into the country.
Also if she did use an existing South African passport, how was it not flagged as soon as her name comes up on the system.
The whole issue of this girl's case is not straight forward on both sides.