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Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku:
aswani:
I ain't shifting nowhere, that's for starters. You don't want people commenting on your posts, block me or don't post.

There is nothing to contextualise. I said earlier, stay away from thrones, crowns and the words install or coronate unless you are in your own kingdom. Seems an easy, very easy, thing to do.
but Igbo's have no "King"doms, how can they stay away from something that does not exist in their culture?
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku: 3:30pm On Apr 05
Stolen:
I WANT TO ASK U A SIMPLE QUESTION CAN ONE BECOME A KING IN SOUTH AFRICA WITHOUT CONSTITUTIONAL RECOGNITION?


IF THE ANSWER IS NO, THEN WAT IS ALL THE NOISE ABOUT OVER THE IBGO CVOMMUNITY LEADER?
He doesn't want to answer you because deep down he knows it's not about a coronation of any sort of King.
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku: 3:26pm On Apr 05
aswani:
They probably have their friends or duplicate monikers reporting your comment. None of your stuff I have read should be deleted, if anything it is them that should be banned.

I had to edit the comment JaceBlaze as I thought it was seppuku responding, apologies.
Full disclosure Aswani. You obviously don't know who JaceBlaze is and how long he has been on nairaland to think that I have any influence on if he is banned or not.
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku:
aswani:
I have followed this thread with keen interest and I still don't know what that seppuku poster is arguing about.

As a Nigerian, I can tell you what they are doing if you haven't already noticed. It is to ignore all you are saying and conflate lots of issues, some even totally unrelated, just to make whatever watery point they want and spin you well away from the core discussion. We as Nigerians are the best in the world at that.

Unless you have time to waste, and lucky you if you do, I wíll let him or her indulge himself or herself and move on.

The fact that they are the only one posting ( and at length too) to defend the nonsense of this coronation/installation event crap is very very telling.

A mere diasporan "community leader" has zero business wearing a crown, sitting on a throne or being installed. I know it, you know it, we all know it.
Point 1. No where in my posts do I "justify" what the socio-cultural group did. What I did was to "contextualize" what happened with a video supporting my assertion that this was not a coronation nor was this a King of anybody.

Point 2. My conversations with South Africans on this platform go deeper than just the subject matter of the thread so if you haven't been following me for a while I suggest you shift left.
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku: 3:11pm On Apr 05
JaceBlaze:
Yup with the help of the moderators allowing him to say whatever he wants and me on the other hand getting my comments deleted and being banned even though I never used a single offensive word.

Yah it's all under control.
They ban you because you use derogatory language. You've been doing it for years so stop making excuses and playing victim.
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku: 3:10pm On Apr 05
JaceBlaze:
I am not passionately into it like he is because I know him a long time and luckily I discovered way quick that the guy is not smart at all.Even when I am goofing around with my troll material I still sound smarter than Seppukuphuku at his most dedicated level of seriousness.He is a small fish🐠 so I wouldn't worry about him.
Yes. A small fish who tells no lies about your people.
Culture › Re: Igbo Community Condemns ‘Ezeigbo’ Coronation In South Africa, Demands Arrests. by seppuku: 6:52am On Apr 05
[quote author=Christistruth03 post=138997304] that fellow look like the man in the video below

Na wa for social media


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5eDrFbG708
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku:
JaceBlaze:
I don't know where you get that idea that me stating that we are culturally dissimilar equates to enforcing a notion of superiority.We are nothing alike and those are just facts,I don't think that I am superior to you,I just don't get the obsession you all have with us and our country.We are just two groups of people who couldn't,and maybe should never coexist because the friction is too great and pretending that it doesn't exist doesn't really help.
Please list what makes us "vastly" different from each other and I will point to that notion of superiority.

We are not obsessed with your country. A majority of us "Africans" have witnessed genocides and the likes on the continent and we know when a peoples' who are one of the youngest countries on the continent in terms of independence are headed that direction.

JaceBlaze:
The president of the country is literally a Venda man,a minority tribe by the way,if we don't like Vendas then who the f*** else do you think the rest of the votes he got came from?🤔 ,even on a good day we know you and logic have never been friends.
Misdirection. Just because the Americans voted in the first black president doesn't eliminate or diminish the fact that racism exists

From the mouth of your people:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w1vXI5tjks&t=286s

JaceBlaze:
I am just finding out for the first time that we beefing with people from Burundi grin grin You just pulling random insignificant countries out of your a*s as you go along.. classic seppukuphuku style of clutching at straws.
Eish! you don't get around much in your country do you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KpqFHGfT4I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ttdl_FbIdRU


JaceBlaze:
Live peacefully with who? The same Ghana that you violently removed from your country back in the 80's? You know, the infamous "Ghana must go" violent protests? The same Ghana that rightfully sent you packing out their country for the same bulls*** your people tried to pull in South Africa just last week? Oh what an impressive decorum and basic human decency you people have🙌🙌🙌.. truly impressive lol
Very old news Mfethu. This happened 40 + years ago. Leave that little enclave of yours and come see Accra for yourself and stop living on social media and the internet.

JaceBlaze:
You?? coexisting peacefully with anyone? The same people that are literally getting banned and deported from every damn country? I don't recall you people ever being a nation that is agreeable to live with.
So Seychelles, UAE and Singapore is every country. South African Propaganda.

FYI, My mates and I just got back from Thailand not too long ago. Smooth entry and smooth exit. Stop living on the internet my man.
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku: 6:02pm On Apr 04
aswani:
If you are a community leader, stay away from thrones, crowns, the words "install" or "coronate" or (varying) words to that effect.

Anything that has regal connotations, stay well away.
Qualify your statement by adding that these sorts of things are only relevant in most African countries.

aswani:
Also, I notice some Ndigbo, not all, are immediately pointing fingers at Ndi Yoruba, this is nothing to do with them or other Nigerians, this is to do with an inability of Ohaneze to read the room.

We helped them overcome apartheid o, we suckled them since birth ó, it is neither here nor there.

It is an abomination for two rulers to exist in a land anywhere in black Africa. Stay in your (mere) community leader lane.
I refer you back to the Video for clarity. Igbos have no Kings.

aswani:
I had a friend abroad once, almost every single person from a South American country in that European country went there legally through him. He provided support that their embassy couldn't. In fact, some embassy staff pointed people in his direction, especially those that wanted to settle in the region he was based in.

Even after they settled, he was still the go to person of residents of that country. He had only gone on a backpacking holiday to that country once and said he wanted to repay the kindness of the people.

I have lost touch with him now I am no longer there but this guy is the definition of an Eze or Igwe. He never did any installation or coronation, wore no crown or sat on a throne.
You are comparing apples and oranges. Irrelevant to the topic. Greet your friend/facilitator next time you get in contact with him.
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku:
JaceBlaze:
O domkop thata and I will explain slower what I truly meant.

The fact is South Africa and Nigeria are too far from each other and have zero cultural similarities so there is no need to force compatibility.
Where in the world do you get the notion that We want to be "compatible" with you in terms of culture. Get that supremacist and ridiculous notion out of your head boy. Most Nigerians in SA are economic migrants. They don't have time to spend bowing down to your monarchs, spending time at the shebeen ploting on when next to Toyi toyi or dining on pap and cabbage.

Like other groups of White or black migrants, they seek to exploit the white monopoly capitalist system that runs your economy, finish and Klaar.

The fear of " black foreigners" taking over and dominating you is where the crux of the matter is.



JaceBlaze:
You are better off building unity with your West African neighbours,South Africa too will build with it's Southern African(SADC) countries as we are people that are very much alike in a lot of ways,and that has always been my stance on this South Africa/Nigeria saga.I never understood Nigeria's obsession with us,our country and our ways of life.
Obsessed with who? Don't make me laugh.

1. You live with AmaShaagaans, Venda peoples, Shona's, Ndebele's who are your kin and can't even get along with them.

2. You are highly discriminatory against your so called SADC neighbours, Mozambicans, Malawians,Zimbabweans in particular who because like Nigerians they retaliate against your propaganda to demonize them have become your most bitter rivals.

3.Your Xenophobia extends far beyond your so called SADC peoples. YOu discriminate against Burundians, Congolese, Angolans etc. I have seen it with my own eyes.


Stop the misdirection my dear Southern African. You do not like the "other".

By the way we live very peacefully in those West African countries you mentioned as they do in ours. Take a trip and educate yourself.
Culture › Re: Igbo Community Condemns ‘Ezeigbo’ Coronation In South Africa, Demands Arrests. by seppuku: 3:23pm On Apr 04
Christistruth03:
Have you heard that Eze Ndigbo recently, he is still refusing to apologise
Instead he went into Tribal bashing mode


He is still parading himself as Eze Ndigbo of East London after the people told him to desist

26 people are in hospital and one is dead because of his arrogance o!!
Please post your evidence. Its not what you know. its what you can prove.
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku: 3:00am On Apr 04
JaceBlaze:
They are having a hard time accepting that us and them are not the same people and have absolutely nothing in common.They just can't take it🤣🤣🤣

These mothfu**** skipped Ghana,Senegal and Togo to come down south and force a kinship with people that are totally culturally different from them.Most of us didn't even know there was a country called Nigeria until these people started trooping here. grin grin grin
Please get the order of countries right as it is indicative of your lack of understanding of geographical locations on the continent. We can't skip those countries on our way down south.
Culture › Re: Igbo Community Condemns ‘Ezeigbo’ Coronation In South Africa, Demands Arrests. by seppuku: 2:20am On Apr 04
Christistruth03:
It is not their Fault

The Eze Ndigbo needs to humbly apologise to South Africans
they had already warned him to desist
1.The Nigerian high commission and issued statements.
2. Several socio-cultural groups have issued clarifications and apologies.
3. Individuals have come out to say this was a misunderstanding.

What more do you want them to do.

Guy if you don't understand what this is about which is "South Africans do not generally like foreigners and want them to leave", you don't know them yet.

At this point I would urge the South African embassy in Nigeria to close up shop and stop making money from issuing visas to Nigerians if it is so bad.

Let them start there first and lets see where it goes.
Culture › Re: Igbo Community Condemns ‘Ezeigbo’ Coronation In South Africa, Demands Arrests. by seppuku: 1:44am On Apr 03
[quote author=Christistruth03 post=138968816]Too little too late
such as late. It's an excuse to run on the streets and make noise. The idea is to continue civil disobedience until it escalates to violence.

Nothing new here with South Africa. Its their Modus operandi.
Culture › Re: Igbo Community Condemns ‘Ezeigbo’ Coronation In South Africa, Demands Arrests. by seppuku: 9:01pm On Apr 01
soil4soil:
Why are you people after title in another man's land, is there king of Zulu of South Africa in any Igbo land
Yes, pivot away from the question by answering it with another question. Very wise of you.
Health › Re: Lagos, Benue Lead HIV Infections As Young Women Remain Most Vulnerable – NDR by seppuku: 5:06pm On Apr 01
Ralp226:
People nor Dey fear HIV again … na normal level for them as far say drugs Dey to take … you guys can continue f**king as you like, I nor fit advise anybody
The thing plenty for Abuja fa!


Me I dey still fear.
Culture › Re: Igbo Community Condemns ‘Ezeigbo’ Coronation In South Africa, Demands Arrests. by seppuku: 5:05pm On Apr 01
soil4soil:
There may be an underlying effect for the attack but the reason was forcing to install a king. Similar things happen in Lagos, Oyo even in some parts of the north in Nigeria where because of someone has little change or has stayed in the place he feels he will be the leader thereby calling themselves king.
So Ohaneze Ndi Igbo and an Eze ndi Igbo in Kano control territory, receive visitors to the state, attend traditional events or oversees the people of Kano?

SMH
Culture › Re: Igbo Community Condemns ‘Ezeigbo’ Coronation In South Africa, Demands Arrests. by seppuku: 2:24pm On Apr 01
soil4soil:
Which Igbo have king, in ancient history name any Igbo king it was recent time that they want to force their way by having kings in every area.

If in ancient time Igbo have king they will know how to respect elders. Even as of now which Igbo king would speak and his subjects will listen talk less of obeying what he says
So you agreeing with my point then which means the so called coronation in South Africa is not that of a King, no?
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku: 1:45pm On Apr 01
Breaker001:
Thank you @Seppuku for the video. It is quite enlightening, a necessary video that can be used to quell the situation.
Looking at a similar incidence which occurred in Ghana, I think our Igbo brothers will have to refine this issue of "coronation of their Igwes" in such a way that their host communities does not feel threatened. And I believe that effective communication, before and after such coronation is key. 😎
I agree. They overstepped a boundary but from the evidence I have seen so far, definitely without malice or ill intent which is why I fail to see what the rukus was about.

The little respect I had for South Africa has gone way down on the scale simply because for a so called sophisticated country the reactions were very typical of people who are not very well informed.
Culture › Re: Igbo Community Condemns ‘Ezeigbo’ Coronation In South Africa, Demands Arrests. by seppuku: 1:34pm On Apr 01
soil4soil:
God bless this organization for condemning this barbaric action

But one Lamba Master, the one full of lies will not say anything but will be the first to rush and say something if it is other tribes that did something like that.

Lamba Master I greet you oooo
But it is said that Igbos have no King?
Culture › Re: Igbo Community Condemns ‘Ezeigbo’ Coronation In South Africa, Demands Arrests. by seppuku: 1:32pm On Apr 01
Mariangeles:
A South African dares to call Nigeria lawless?
South Africa? A country that is known to go about, killing people from other countries at will? Don't make me laugh!
My guy the day I saw the burnt body of a Mozambican man way back in 2008 during the first xenophobic attacks that is when I knew if you leave this people to their whims they will Kill you for absolutely nothing.

It's nothing more than pent up anger from apartheid that was never quenched. Their people were anticipating a war with the Whites and it never came now all that anxiety has found a new channel and it is waiting to erupt.

I urge any sensible person to leave that country as soon as they can but alas you know our igbo brothers dem go choke head even for war zone.
Culture › Re: Igbo Community Condemns ‘Ezeigbo’ Coronation In South Africa, Demands Arrests. by seppuku: 1:27pm On Apr 01
Samantha125:
And we will continue doing it if you keep provoking us, now go ahead and keep laughing...😂😂😂

Keep testing us and what you see happening in East London will be nothing because it's like you guys are asking for war, and one of these days, you'll get it... We'll give you a tangible reason to call us xenophobes.

KEEP LAUGHING...😜😜😜
As if you are the only one with a monopoly of violence. You think people will just sit and watch their loved ones get killed by jobless people.

Stop pretending. This is about Xenophobia. The fear that foreign nationals are coming to take over your country disguised as anger against a coronation. If you ask me I really don't know what these foreign nationals are running to take in the first place. Most people are only there because it's a capitalist country with White monopoly capital that most people are trying to tap into.
Culture › Re: Igbo Community Condemns ‘Ezeigbo’ Coronation In South Africa, Demands Arrests. by seppuku: 2:35am On Apr 01
Irony1:
Bro make una slow down with all this rhetoric.
Meanwhile Congo don beat Jamaica and dey go World cup

Chai!
Foreign Affairs › Re: "No Igbo King" Protests In South Africa Turn Violent (Photos, Videos) by seppuku: 3:52pm On Mar 31
Demigod22:
These Igbo guys in diaspora are definitely high on something. What's the obsession of having a king in a foreign land? Og what use are the Kings at home? Can't you do your business in peace?

I condemned violence of any form, but these Igbos are definitely losing it.
But I thought the Igbos have no King?
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku: 3:36pm On Mar 31
Breaker001:
I hope you are aware that the video of the so-called coronation is in the public space.
You mean this video. Did you notice where they clearly indicate that this individual is not a King? if you didn't I can transcript for you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5eDrFbG708&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nairaland.com%2F
Foreign Affairs › Re: Protest Against Igbo King In Eastern Cape Turns Violent, Properties Burnt by seppuku: 3:30pm On Mar 31
ScarletBrace:
I don’t understand. How do you mean?
The Igbos title people as Igwes or Eze's. These do not translate to King as in an "Oba" or an "Emir" does it?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Protest Against Igbo King In Eastern Cape Turns Violent, Properties Burnt by seppuku: 3:22pm On Mar 31
ScarletBrace:
Oga shut up and think for once.
You guys create enemies for yourselves when actually there’re none.

What is the essence of an Igbo king on South African soil?

No matter how large the Igbo community in South Africa, even if it were as large as half the natives’ population, does it call for an Igbo King?
Can’t you be enlightened?

This is the same place you’ve experienced rifts in the past with its impulse still hanging in the air . Yet Una no wan get sense.
But as a Nigeria surely you are aware that the Igbos never had Kingdoms?
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku: 2:10pm On Mar 31
RandDigital:
We're not the ones that made u taboo in SA. You did that all by yourselves.
You didn't answer the question or maybe you did?
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku: 1:37pm On Mar 31
RandDigital:
If we aspired to be like them we would have welcomed and even invited more Igbo and Nigerian kings to come lead us in their "greatness". Instead they're being rejected. Imagine a whole "king" being told to voetsek 😂😂😂
That whole "king" was not a king. It is much ado about nothing.

This is really resentment and propaganda about how the immigrants are coming to take over.
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku: 1:35pm On Mar 31
RandDigital:
If we aspired to be like them we would welcomed and even invited more Igbo and Nigerian kings. Instead they're being rejected 😂😂😂
So conversely you aspire to be like Whites since you are inviting more of them into Cape town.

I see.
Politics › Re: Nigerian High Commission Debunks Igbo King Coronation In South Africa by seppuku: 1:28pm On Mar 31
Afrojuju2017:
The law vests chieftaincy with states and local governments, so therefore it's becomes illegal for anyone to call himself baálé, chief or eze ndigbo even if all the igbo people in that community insist on it.
I didn't know this existed in Law. I thought customary matters were vested in traditional settings in alignment with the constitution of course.

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