₦airaland Forum

KLEINBASS:
Yah

We are coming to take your jobs and your women regardless of Xenophobia.

Sonyboom765:
She as not been bullied by anybody.

We all know that is a lie my friend so stop trying to back peddle.

Sonyboom765:
She as not right to profit off the fraud of her parent. South Africans are actually the victim here, criminals like Chidinma's father n mother should stop fraudulently exploiting their system over there to their own benefit.

1.If you understanding of the law you would understand that Chidinma is actually a victim as well in this particular situation and if you want examples of such scenarios just ask and I will give it.

2. Prior to the discovery of the fraud, how is she continuing to benefit is the correct answer. South Africans are really frustrated at the system that allows these sort of fraudulent activities to take place and instead to channeling that anger and energy to who it is due instead subject an innocent young lady who grew up amongst them with no other sense of psychological identity other than South African because of their Xenophobic tendencies.

Now that the world has caught on they are back peddling.

Sonyboom765:
If her parent are jailed for the fraud they committed we Nigerians will be the ones shouting the most again so those in government in SA will diplomatically play it down so it does raise another round of unrest.

Ignorance of law / fraud benefitting you is not excuse from prosecution or jail

NIgerians will not disturb any country for executing their laws. Where have you seen any Nigerian or government official run to any country to challenge them on their laws if or when a criminal Nigerian is jailed. Lies!

Again Chidinma did not commit the fraud therefore it cannot be applied to her on the basis of ignorance since she did not break any laws in the first place. This is the reason Home affairs specifically stated that she is not implicated in the allegation of identity theft or fraud.

Brendaniel:
So how are you sure the information they gave you is proper if the same information isn't proper enough to be used in the court of law?

Her mother will be charged. She cannot be charged since she has no involvement. If Home affairs is able to provide enough evidence then its likely the mother's status will be withdrawn which will cause another case in terms of Chidinma status which will take time as well to finalize.

In the meantime, her status as a South African remains valid until such a time that it is deemed invalid. She also has a child that is registered as a South African I would assume. That case would need to adjudicated as well.

What may likely happen will be either her citizenship based on her mother's credentials will be stripped and she will pursue a different immigrant status in the country which there are avenues to that or she will be granted a particular status based on humanitarian grounds.

We shall see but e go pain Southie people till the outcome . Coming after an innocent young woman because of her last name.

Xenophobes!

Sonyboom765:
There is no cold war anywhere, the only war happening is btw fraud we Nigeria are comfortable with and the fraud South Africa rejected. Her father n mother should be prosecuted for fraudulently getting SA citizen for her when she was never their citizen.
Simple as A B C

Who told you we are comfortable with fraud. Have you heard anybody on here state that the perpetrators of identity fraud should not be prosecuted and do you not think that this poor girl Chidima who has been bullied by xenphobes online is also a victim of this particular situation knowing that she had no knowledge or participation in the fraudulent act.

RSA:
She was never harassed, she lied saying she was born in Soweto, Sowetans know each other, they didn’t recognize her so they questioned. Sometimes be honest with yourself guys, your reputation is not good everywhere, work on it.

She was cyber bullied and severely harrassed and ridiculed online stop it please. So with the size of SOWETO everyone is supposed to know each other, how odd?


Just come out and admit it, you guys are taking out the anger and hate you have for foreigners on an innocent girl who is also a victim of this particular identity theft saga.

RSA:
Law is a law

You were not speaking law when you were harassing the poor girl all the way to a Home affairs inquiry.

Why didn't you guys go after le ROux's background to find out who she was.

You guys are xenophobic please stop hiding the hatred behind the law.

Next you will start requesting DNA tests for anyone with an African last name.

oloriooko:
The purpose of this post is to recognise and euologise Nigerians of other nationals who are excelling and inspiring fellow Nigerians to do same.
Pls stop derailing this post with this unnecessary arguements

Sorry Boss. No vex.

Amujale,
Posting videos of Sertima will not save you here. The book is riddled with circumstantial evidence which once you answer the question below will be exposed for what it is.

If you do not answer the question it will be deemed that you truly cannot debate a topic because you are afraid of the outcome.

Its a simple question, someone as intelligent as you should be able to decipher it,

Can you point to the African below. Once you do please tell us why you consider them African.

watch how you will completely avoid this question.

Olodo!

Amujale:
Here is morpheus24 source:

Grabianowski, Ed. "How Human Migration Works." Dec. 27, 2007. (May 1, 2009)https://science.howstuffworks.com/evolution/human-migration.htm

Defeated argument.

From way back in early 2009 their hypothesis was comprehensively defeated by Dr Hendrik Clarke and Professor Martin Bernal in what is popularly chastised as “The Great Debate”.

Hmmmm

PunkyVeer:
What do you mean, rough?

They have Wahala!,

Of all the fatality cases of Nigerians and SA relationships, I know they rank at the top

PunkyVeer:
Nigerians are very self destructive & they don't like each other much. Pick up Tshwane Sun, the free newspaper about what's happening in the streets of Pretoria & you'll see for yourself. It's not rare to find them at the Pretoria west police station, bleeding & refusing to go to hospital. I used to stay in Church Street so I know. There's loads of them living there.
Where I'm currently staying, 4 of them moved in about three months ago. Two men & two women. They had a fight in the middle of the night, the two men. I don't know what it was about because I didn't get out. But there was police & everything. In the morning there was blood drops in the stairway. I guess the other couple moved out because recently the other female was asking me if I knew of any students looking for accommodation. They want to rent out their spare room. I told her to write on a piece of paper & paste it by the post boxes. Two guys from TUT came to check the room, I think usisi was busy cooking. Anyway they came out, bathi ukudla bekunuka ngathi ebepheka amateki. No offence but I laughed hard.

See how Village boys and girls are embarrassing us in South Africa

can you imagine!

PunkyVeer:
LMFAO. Ok.

Ps, I can manage a Tshwana, Sotho or Venda girl

but those Nguni people are too rough for me!

14:
the question is why did he run away if he was not at fault or he is one od those who go to SA with 3 months VISA and overstay it, we know there is thousands of them who are loitering around the streets. He had something to hide, hence he ran away. It must be noted, he passed on b4 the police could arrest him.

Always asking S.tupid questions, so if he is an over stay that gives them blanket authority to beat and kill him. Why not just put him on a place back to Nigeria.

Where is the post mortem autopsy report to prove he died of natural causes, if the police have nothing to hide let them release the report. This is the what the Union is asking for.


When they post the report please repost here.

PunkyVeer:
Btw Morpheus24, what ever happened to that Xhosa GF of yours? I read one of your posts saying you have a girl in the Cape. Did she dump you? Is that why you're so hell bent & bitter about anything SA? Can I find you another one? I know Xhosa chikitas be giving niggas brain damage since Nongqawuse's time

Please, GF, you want me to die of AIDS!

Rather tell your promiscuous girls to stop chasing me around when they see me_Handsome, tall, sexy and pocket fully loaded guy like myself and go bek to your midget husbands!

PunkyVeer:
It's because you're always all over the place like a flea. It's hard to follow your thought process in written word.
And do refrain from speaking on behalf on Nigerians in SA. You be Enenye, abi? LMFAO

Its because you are slow and can't seem to grasp complex concepts

Miaraka:
Morpheus24, the intellectual, how are you? I thought I had lost you. I suppose I should thank this Nigerian Union story for your reappearance. I thought you'd have posted a comment in relation to the ABC of Defeating Boko Haram by now. Does not appear or claim to be a panacea but, in my view, it's worth considering. In case you didn't see it, please find it below:
THE ABC OF DEFEATING BOKO HARAM

You didn't need to post that long excerpt, that was highly was not necessary. A link would have sufficed.

There are enough Nigerians that discuss our internal issues here and if you have followed me through the years I do not comment much in these issues, not that I do not follow rather I specialize in other areas that peak my curiousity

Shikena!

You are one of the very few SA I have respect for because your responses are neutral and you tend to see past the "patriotism" displayed by your comrades here.

Don't let your head swell though.

Pamelayoung:
Shameless ladies. Morals thrown away. They're all gud 4 notin.

You want them to be wearing hijab under hot African Sun abi?

14:
When i say sothos, i dont refer to people from lesotho alone, you are exposing yourself, told you you know little about SA, so it would be better to keep shut and teach us about nigerian tribes. Tswana, Pedi and southern sothos all fall under Sotho tribe. There four tribes in SA, Nguni, Sotho, venda and tsonga. So Sotho tribe i m refering to, majority of them are light skin and they are not mixed. As i said, weather plays major role.
Compare batswana in botswana and tswanas in south africa, tswanas in SA are lighter compare to their counter parts in botswana, because botswana has a hot weather, and they still have large population of san people compare with SA.

You are really stu.pid. The Batswana in Botswana would represent the original group of Tswana phenotypes(homogenous group) and the ones in South Africa would be the ones who would more likely have incorporated more genetics from Khoi, SAn descendants and have a more variety of phenotypes because of numerous more interactions with other groups.

The movement was SOUTHWARDS dummy!

14:
You pretend to be an expert in all SA matters, but you know little about South africa. Only information you have, you only rely on what you read, which might not be 100% correct.
You trying hard to justify the fact that any light skin person in SA is mixed, which is wrong. Even the coloureds you refering to them, there is lots of them who are dark skin. not every coloured is light skin. theyr is thousands of coloureds who are dark skin or medium complexion, that also happens amongst black africans, not everyone is dark skin.

Dummy!

Point 1, Not every light skinned black person is mixed. The reference about Nigerian light skinned Igbo should have clued you into that

Point 2, Not every colored person is light skinned, that is obvious since a coloured is nothing more than someone with mixed ancestry and usually speaks Afrikaans. Therefore two dark skinned coloured can produce a variety of shades of human beings.

Point 3, if one takes into account the history of South Africa and the fact that numerous racial groups intermingled for a good amount of time, it would be simple deductive reasoning that would leave one to be suspect when determining if anyone who is light skinned in south Africa has some small amount of mixed ancestry including Khoi, San, Malay, Indian and European


That said, What does this self identifying Zulu speaking girl consider herself in your society

14:
I think weather plays major role, look at the Sothos, they are not mixed, but 80% of them are light skinned. SA is relatively cold, 5 to 6 months temperatures are low. So its difficult to find a pitch black person. Even those who reside in the northern parts of the country, they are not pitch black.

You guys need to start taking DNA tests en masse. People from Lesotho very likely absorbed a lot of descendants of Khoi and San people and may have also absorbed many so called Basters, Griqua, Nama and the likes. This is a hypothesis though seeing that many of the settlements of the groups mention border Lesotho.

Climate only creates the condition to develop skin conditions that need less vitamin DN and shedding Melanin but this change would take quite a long period of time like thousands of years at least to fully eliminate the look of the original population.

14:
are you sure? Because i see only one coloured lady, 3 are blacks. Majority of women in SA are light skinned, dark skinned women are in a manority. SA is cold, hence many people are light skin due to weather conditions.

So light skinned Igbo people are also likewise because of weather conditions in the South East. Tomorrow you will start making noise that you are smart.

Please Miaraka is leaning to the more sensible answer. It is evident that incorporating the Khoi and San also introduced lighter skin, eyefolds and much more pepper corn/carse hair into the Bantu and Nguni groups that moved Southwards. In addition there would also be minor inflows of European DNA into early Khoi San people asie. Griqua, Nama and the likes who may have also been absorbed into the bantu groups.

Climate is probably just one factor that allowed the Khoi and San retain lighter shades of skin color as would diet, selective breeding patterns and genetics.

Ps the pic of the girls by simple observation would be 3 possible colored girls, I black girl using South African standards.

LeSudAfricaine:
Very well said

Do you just agree, don't you make any statements at all ?

Gbegborun!

Miaraka:
There was no one in Asia, Europe and Anericas until our ancestors arrived there.

I don't think black Panther said anything out of line. He included Khoi, San, European and Asian(Malay) in his attribution of light skinned South Africans which is in line with what you just elaborated on.

As for the above statement you made, Please be aware there were other types of Humans that inhabited Asia and Europe namely the Neanderthal and the Denisovans. The so called "Africans" or first Homo sapien sapiens that evolved and left Africa did populate and over run the rest of the "Humans" that lived in these areas but they also absorbed their DNA as well.

Therefore your ancestors technically did not arrive in these areas first but the ancestors of all HOMO SAPIEN SAPIENS that exist today

Miaraka:
There are millions of African immigrants here. You can also come and join them. The more the merrier. If you come here and focus on your legitimate business, you'll be ok. Also, for your own sake, you should know that this is a highly organized society. For instance, if you're driving, you should stick to your lane and stop when the traffic light turns red. Failure to follow the rules or abide by the law can cause very serious problems, even death for you the law-breaker and innocent users of the road. No one will kill you for finding yourself a virgin. I've lived in Nigeria and other countries in Africa and Europe. I can tell you from my own personal experience that men everywhere are jealous when they discover that a girl they were still thinking of wooing is already going out with a foreigner. There's no one going around hunting for Nigerians to kill. We have more important things to do than that. Apart from that we would end up in jail.
How I wish the overwhelming majority of African immigrants who're enjoying themselves here could take some time from their tight schedules to tell you how sweet it is to be here.
Stop believing everything you read in newspapers or see on TV. Develop a questioning mind for the sake of your country and this continent. There's a lot of lies and manipulation in the media. The main reason for this was to set the stage for SA - Nigeria relations when Buhari takes over. It is in the interests of certain people and nations that there should be tension and conflict between SA and Nigeria as that will most certainly divide and weaken Africa, thereby making it easier for them to continue to exploit our wealth and dictate how we should rule ourselves. Another reason is that drug dealers, brothel owners and other criminals would like to enlist the whole continent as their defender against communities, incl law-abiding Nigerians, who are sick and tired of them and would like them to be arrested, jailed and or deported.
You were told that Nigerians were killed in SA. Not even one was killed. The people who died were an Ethiopian, Bangladeshi, Mozambican and Zimbabwean, seven in all. May their souls rest in peace. Their killers were arrested together with more than 300 other perpetrators of anti foreigner violence.
You were also told that the Zulu King caused the violence against foreigners. It's a very big lie. He spoke in idiomatic language and the translation was very bad, maybe deliberately so. What he said was not different from what people who are fed up with foreign criminals and police inaction usually say. Further to that he said those things three weeks before the attacks on certain foreigners. Between me and you, there are 12 million Zulus here. If their King had given an order for them to kill foreigners, thousands of foreigners would have died, not four foreigners and not three weeks later. Not even the police would have managed to stop them. The ICC and the South African Human Rights Commission have been investigating. I doubt they'll find anything different from what I'm telling you.
The person who caused the attacks is an Indian supermarket owner. He hired foreigners while a strike by locals was in progress. It is alleged by local authorities and the police that stone-throwing between the foreigners and locals led to the involvement of taxi drivers when their vehicles were hit by stones and other missiles. Once that happened, the violence spread like wild fire. Even then, the majority of people didn't get involved and the violence happened in a very small part of Durban and a very small part of Johannesburg. Millions of South African citizens and foreigners, government and public organizations condemned these attacks and even took action to ensure that it will never happen again. We even have anti-xenophobia billboards and committees working on various measures to address the underlying causes of attacks on foreigners.
Now that doesn't mean I can give you a guarantee that everyone will be safe from now onwards. I, myself, am not 100% safe. We live in a violent society, where local and foreign criminals break into homes, rob banks, rape, sell drugs, own brothels, etc.
I don't know what it will take to stop people in certain parts of our country from taking the law into their hands when the police fail to deal with local or foreign criminals. I can't also guarantee that fights among Nigerian criminals or between SA and Nigerian or other foreign criminals will not result in fatalities and that the fatalities will not be dubbed xenophobic.

Long Tori

Na South African coloured girls in bikin cause this one?

Abeg make una free P Square o!

LeSudAfricaine:
Ja neh, ai the reasoning on this site leaves a lot to be desired,lol

Na everywhere una hear South Africa una dey comot like rat.

Una no get website wey dey discuss una issue.

Gbegborun!

DictatorZAR:
I can also post pics of a few adolescent boys partying.
Meanwhile the in the resr of Nigeria this is the reality of you savages.

When did confused coloured Cape Malays give a F*#k bout savage black Zulus in the North talk less of other black savage Africans for that matter.

Back to MALAYSIA you need to go!

TOO MUCH "DAGGA" don F(#ked up your head dude!

14:
low class

Your Zulu Xenophobes are the low class ones running around the streets with clubs like cave men

Meanwhile these Nigerian boys are chillin after a hards day of runs man!.....

FighterPilot:
Stupidityy of the highest order exhibited on nairaland. How does bragging with cheap liquor make one smarter. Is this how Africans have deteriorated.

What has being "smart" got to do with anything with the two pics displayed. Stay focused or go back to the Military section where you can display your "smartness"


PS i think deep down inside you meant to say "black" people not Africans. Good pun by a pale faced mutant though.

ghettodreamz:
Our poor performances with our encounter with the Aussies marked the beginning of our downfall. If only we had played well like we did in our first game against the Swedes, we wouldn't have found ourselves in this mess.

We need to cheer these girls, with the type of organization behind them, they come out and still play decent womens soccer, I am proud of them. THey need to hold their heads up high.