Well said and I agree on most of your points. Yes, the Aburi accord could have gone a long way to put into place different structures that Nigeria still struggles to put in place today. The reasons are obvious. However, blame the FG, Gowon and many others too many to list, the accord failed in large part because Ojukwu rather than accepting perhaps 90% of that agreement chose an all or nothing approach. This is NEVER a successful way to handle things, it's like cutting off your nose to spite your face well because the nose is not your preferred shape. Who loses? Well, up till today most parts of Nigeria are still losing!

However, that was 40+ years ago, what makes it impossible for a country to correct a problem in over 40 years?? Could you imagine in the personal life of a man, he still cannot correct errors after 40 years? Well, all of Nigeria FG, Gowon, Ojukwu, and ALL OF US, especially the stoop.id Nigerians who support and vote for useless national leaders like we have now are to blame!

IGBO-SON:


^^^Mens-dept, please if you want to respond to that thing don't abuse Ijaws, as that's his aim on this site.

Cheers.

Hope this new found politeness is not for oil sake!?? #OilThings

If a girlfriend or wife or friend breaks friendship with you because you are not good enough now (for 1 million reasons, whatever), not that he/she is perfect or doing any better; why would you accept to give any benefit to such friend after the breakup for ANY reason, alliance, whether you are doing better or not? This is one of the things that will happen if Nigerian were to break-up. If everyone gets it right and make a good life for their people, nice! Whatever chances ibos have, other people also have. However, there will be lots of issues and then it will be too late to want to make alliances and friendships, for what? I think you are a good person but a breakup will FORCE the new countries to have every non-National removed from their country, this is reality. There is no law that can stop that from happening! Some of your people will be on the receiving end of the agitations of a few but it is what it is. Ibos will need MANY things and I know you have a lot of things too, just like any other new country coming out of Nigeria. However, you will NOT have access to the sea, the coastal states have NO OBLIGATION to allow you any access by road, water or air! Any unauthorized plane or vessel could be fired upon, this will be the reality. This limits your options economically (imports and exports), war and defence as well as several socio-economic consequences. Iboland grew palm kernels and made palm oil in the days of regionalism. You can go back to farming but where is the land? If you used all your land to farm, where will people live? Yes, you can import but from where? Since you will be boxed in, the cost of taxation could be quite punitive such that a big percentage of your monies is shared with states with coastal access or ports. They might demand as much as 40 - 50% of the value of the imports, but what choices would you have then?

I am very sure there will be conflicts around your borders for minorities will be always on edge to check any small encroachment on their lands. Being friends or allies will not be enough because it becomes an issue of two countries in negotiation - you MUST bring something to the table and that thing must be worth the other countries while. What will it be? I don't speak for the SW but I will SAY there should be no Ibos within our borders and in the lands of all those who may choose to be part of our country. With not less than 40 M Yorubas in Nigeria alone, the most educated, the most schooled, some of the most developed areas, lots of land for farming, access to several hundreds of KMs of Atlantic Shoreline, an already sophisticated people for more than 10,000 years, war history dating back over a 1,000 years, lots of accomplished people, myself included, what will the Ibos offer to the SW? Only Oyo State is about all the size of the SE. We have oil in Lagos, Ogun and Ondo State, HUGE oilfields offshore FOR US, un-mined gold deposits in Ilesha, one of the largest deposits of Oil Sands in Ondo State, the biggest and most famous educational institutions in Nigeria which are internationally recognized and for which highly trained foreign professors will be pleased to leave the West to go and teach and conduct research in our universities. There are airports in Lagos (should be 2 soon), 1 in Ibadan, 1 in Akure, 1 in Osun State. We can pick up to 4 capitals besides Lagos and designated them as our heavy industrial, oil and gas, administrative and culture capitals while Lagos will continue to be our business capital a la New York or London. Naturally, we have pride in the work of our Great grandfathers and Fathers, we love our lands, we can be welcoming and share them with our guests who MUST respect us and the heritage bequeathed to us! We will have a military capital, the most advanced military research and defence fortifications in the modern world, continuing a legacy of over 1,000 years of solid military history. FYI, the Aare Ona Kakanfo (War General) position of the Yorubas has been created for over 700 years, just to let you know this stuff is real.

What would we need from the Ibos? I can't speak for the northerners but I am sure even if they needed 1,000,000 things, they will NEVER accept or take anything from you people and we all know that an average Northerner doesn't like the Eastern Ibos. They also have an interesting culture, very content with what they have, usually care less about material possessions and they have enough land to grow food and water - they will LIVE for sure! For the adventurous of them, I will wager that if they think they are suffering and want someone to blame, it will be the Ibos, who they will view as the root cause of the break-up. Yes, I know every man's life is his responsibility and you cannot blame your neighbour if you are poor but when emotions rage, reason is out! This is why Hitler blamed the Jews for the loss of WW 1 and he organized genocide against them in WW 2 - he was WRONG! However, the damage would already would have been done. Organize protests, cry, shout, write letters, that will not wake-up people who will be victims. In current Nigeria, the Northerners know that the balance of power and action is not their exclusive prerogative. If a crazy leader wants to start war against any part of the country for no just reason, say north vs east, the can be absolutely SURE the Yoruba SW will not be supporting such madness! However in a broken country, we don't have to be bothered so far as you don't come close our lands or into those of our compatriots or people who might have allied with us and with whom we have treaties.

la_unique: How can the GDP of Igbo states be that low? These maps are based on hear-say

Why go tribal? That GDP is not surprising to a lot of people, including me. If you have a different set of facts, then post it!

ujoinme: country people with the above stated division across board in this nation, Is there hope for the entity nigeria?
Am tiered of hearing every news about the potentials of Nigeria, when will we realize our potentials?
what do you guys think?

Stop screaming all around the place! If you really care about a reversal of the dire circumstances, elect credible and better leaders at the national level. Fashola of the now APC is doing really well, ensure he is elected. Buhari is known to be one of the most incorruptible military leaders, if he shows interest support and vote for him. If you keep voting your clueless retardeenic government, then enjoy your fresh air only that it only gets worse for you guys. I will be here laughing at your collective stupi.dity when you vote again along tribal and religious lines but not for performance and records of achievement!

The motive of y our post is clear BUT have you heard of PTSD?

[size=18pt]Army standardizes PTSD diagnosis, treatment[/size]

WASHINGTON - The Army, along with the other military services and the Department of Veterans Affairs, is standardizing the diagnosis and treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder, known as PTSD.

“No matter where Soldiers are getting care or seeking help for PTSD or any other medical issue, we want to ensure we are doing it the same way,” said Lt. Col. Christopher Warner, the Army Surgeon General’s psychiatric consultant and deputy commander, Clinical Services, Bassett Army Community Hospital, Fort Wainwright, Alaska.

Warner said standardization increases a Soldier’s level of trust and fairness in the system.

The Army medical community is now being trained on guidelines spelled out in Army Medical Command Policy Memo 12-035 (April 10, 2012), Policy Guidance on the Assessment and Treatment of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, Warner said.

The memo emphasizes the urgency of the issue.

“The majority of service members with PTSD do not seek treatment, and many who do seek treatment drop out before they can benefit,” the memo reads. “There are many reasons for this, including stigma, other barriers to care, and negative perceptions of mental health care. Lack of trust in military behavioral health professionals has been identified as one important predictor of service members not utilizing services. Therefore, it is critical that Army behavioral health professionals do everything they can to advocate for and provide care in a patient-centered manner that reassures patients that they will not be judged and that their primary concerns will be addressed.”

PTSD is a widespread problem. It occurs in 3 to 6 percent of service members with no deployment experience and in 5 to 25 percent of service members who have been deployed to combat zones. Combat frequency and intensity are the strongest predictor of the condition, according to the policy memo.

An example of standardization is using the “patient-centered care” approach.

“Patient-centered care within a culture of trust requires that care providers focus on patients’ primary concerns, and these diagnoses, when inappropriately used, can damage therapeutic rapport and interfere with successful care,” the memo reads.

In the past, some medical commands have supplemented this approach with forensic psychiatry, which, according to Warner, incorporates the medical practice of psychiatry with the legal field to conduct administrative reviews for medical boards.

Warner said the approach is similar to the workman’s compensation model that, while not utilized inappropriately, did not provide a standardized process across the Army.

“That model is no longer in use in the Army,” Warner said.

Lt. Gen. Robert B. Brown, I Corps commander, speaking at an Aug. 2 press conference at Madigan Army Medical Center, Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Wash., agreed that the patient-centered care approach and standardization is best.

“Our No. 1 concern is taking care of Soldiers and their Families,” he said. “Cost doesn’t play a part in military medicine. We want them to have world-class medical care. For that reason, we are going to stop using the forensic psychiatry system with the disability evaluation system here at Madigan.”

Brown explained that forensic psychiatry adds “an extra layer of supervision really not needed for PTSD medical board examinations.” He said that while forensic psychiatry is a good tool to use in specific situations, the Army needs a more consistent and equitable method of fairness in PTSD diagnosis.

The forensic psychiatry model has been criticized for placing too much emphasis on malingering. The policy memo clarifies the reason for discontinuing that model.

“Although there has been debate on the role of symptom exaggeration or malingering for secondary gain in DoD and VA PTSD Disability Evaluation System processes, there is considerable evidence that this is rare, and unlikely to be a major factor in the vast majority of disability determinations,” the memo reads.

Other aspects of standardization for PTSD care are being addressed. For example, some medications used in the past were found to not be the best choices for PTSD, Warner said.

Another example he cited is standardization of new treatment methods based on research, not only from military medicine, but from first responders – firemen, police officers and paramedics – who routinely handle traumatic situations.

A cutting-edge development within the Army for the prevention of PTSD that the committee is looking at, for example, would be Comprehensive Soldier Fitness, which increases a Soldier’s resiliency, he said.

Standardization is not limited to Army Medical Command Policy Memo 12-035. The Army, VA and other services are standardizing the administration of treatment, using the Integrated Disability Evaluation System, or IDES.

Warner said the IDES, in conjunction with the Army Physical Evaluation Board, determines whether or not a service member should stay in service or transition to the VA system as a medical retiree. If the latter, the service member is guided through the process of transitioning from Army to VA care, while he or she is still on active duty, to ensure no loss of coverage or break in treatment, he explained.

The Army’s success at standardization and innovation are a source of pride within the medical community.

“Combat has been our greatest catalyst to medical innovation,” said Maj. Gen. Richard Thomas, commander, Western Regional Medical Command. The general also spoke at the press conference.

Thomas said that the best minds are working to improve diagnosis and treatment of PTSD. He said that besides the VA and other services, the Army is working with universities across the country and even the National Football League to improve the quality of PTSD care.

He added that the Army has developed a collaborative relationship across the medical spectrum in its effort to find the best treatment possible. For example, he said, “surgeons are seeing patients, alongside psychologists, and even practitioners trained in yoga, massage and acupuncture.”

Treating PTSD is a challenge, Thomas said, because it is not as obvious as treating something like a bullet wound. He explained that diagnosis is further complicated because Soldiers often have more than one injury – for instance, PTSD combined with traumatic brain injury.

Additionally, Soldiers often have delayed reactions to traumatic events that may take years to manifest, he said.

One problem still facing the Army is the stigma associated with mental disorders.

“It is critical as leaders to get rid of the stigma involved,” Thomas said. “There is still a stigma in society and in the Army, but I’ve seen an improvement over the years. We want Soldiers to reach out and seek help from the Army or even outside the base if they so desire.”

Thomas said that today, the Army is seeing more Soldiers come forward for treatment, but the gains are still not enough.

“We need everyone’s help in educating Soldiers,” Thomas said. “It’s not a normal thing asking Soldiers to seek help. We need to get across that it’s normal.”

http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/story.php?id=9675

Good one gallant Nigerian soldier! General Adekunle has indeed DONE very well, he did his duty to Nigeria. History will remember him and be kind to him. His current challenges is NOT HIS FAULT, it's not some STUPI.D KARMA...he was doing his professional sworn duty! To do otherwise was a SIN and crime against the country he swore to serve, to be in the army is not by force! If you can't do it, you could have been a farmer or something else so he did his job VERY WELL!

His health challenges and inability to get better treatment is part of the BIGGER NIGERIAN problem. There are millions who have been in worse situations and yet they never fired a single shot at even an animal in their life, is that karma too? No, it is NIGERIA - a country that has refused to plan for its people, their welfare, healthcare, etc. There is absolutely NO REGRET for fighting the war, if General Alabi had not had a chance to leave to the US (due to his peculiar circumstances), he might have been in similar or worse situations today! Even many Nigerians who live in the West, people like me, some of us earn over N 1 M in one month doing what we absolutely love not struggling to do a boring, repetitive job or in MTN, Globacom, or some Oil & Gas company where all you get for killing yourself in traffic, breathing in smoke and dust, bracing for threats from BH, militants, thieves, etc is a N 300,000 - N400, 000 per month! These ones are the super lucky ones, or you will hold your life in your hands and become a politician, a bootlicker, any government in power, ritualism, etc to make millions you may not even live long to enjoy or spend with peace of mind! When Nigeria fixes its problems, people like General Adekunle, big or small Nigerians will be guaranteed a decent living and healthcare. Ibos (former biafrans) should quit seeing this as some kind of karma, it is not!

Good one, make it quick PLS! I hope Oyo State is getting ready and planning their routes because a connection from Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Osun Ondo, Ekiti, plus possibly Edo, Kwara, Kogi, etc is the end-game but let us get moving fast! We are already running late!

gregtochi: In as much as I commend ur analysis, I think the analogy of ex wfe\girlfriend benefit does not fit, and I think it is purely for economic reasons.
Again, u quoted Abagworo from d other thread with his summary of Igbo problem which u alluded dat its solution among igbos and other tribes alike will be salvation and eradication of Nigeria's problems. Well, I will have to ask you when standing alone in Nigeria has been profitable to anyone? And by whose standard do you guage what is right or wrong?
Youconcluded dat Igbos will have nothing to offer any ally (if any) while extolling the supremacy of the yuruba. That does not sound to me dat you want objective response in this thread, but rather another attempt at tribal e-fight.
Peace bro! Peace!!!

I stated clearly that I liked to encourage a debate, it is not fair to self-CONCLUDE another opinion when the intention is clearly stated! Again, this is not about fighting, debate pls! Now, if I write about the Yorubas, why not write about your preferred tribe, Igbos? Do it and contribute something, do not castigate my opinion but refuse to offer yours.

I agree you have rights to your persona opinion but except you have not been following Nigerian news and NL, you will NEVER dispute the marriage / girlfriend comparison. Such comparisons have been made in Nigeria (Shagari to Azikiwe), as well as on NL in direct fashion. The context is the same, and of course, I expect you to understand that Nigerian tribes are not real husband and wives in the literal fashion - think of context. So, why not extol the virtues of whoever you like? I am actually not done but I can't possibly know or write everything so let others contribute something too.

NOTE: This was originally a response to the poster below. Not wanting to derail that germaine conversation (https://www.nairaland.com/1349955/se-access-sea/6#16699235), I thought it expedient to branch and flesh it out here. Feel free to contribute but steer clear of emotional, tribal insults only. The mods do not like it and neither do I! Thanks! Let us get rolling:

Abagworo: The truth remains the truth. The only way out for Igbos is to stand for what is right and stop seeking affiliation with people who have inherent hatred for Igbos for no just course. Igbos on the other hand need to grow some balls and claim what is there's without giving a damn. That's one thing I am proud of myself for. I look beyond ethnic groups in my dealings and nothing can stop that. The same reason I like Okorocha and Amaechi. Do the right thing and damn all these ethnic and religious jingoists across Nigeria.

This guy, who are you? You speak quite well! I am Nigerian and I like you! I have many Igbo friends like you but most of the ones on NL are not anything like you! Would you tell me if you are really Igbo!? Don't be offended, look at what you are saying: "...way out for Igbos is to stand for what is right and stop seeking affiliation with people who have inherent hatred for Igbos for no just course...". Same with your next sentence! Do you know that if a mass of people (Nigerians, E, W, S, N) stood by what you mentioned and Igbos of course, a lot the things that hold Nigeria back will be gone? I ask, is it right to consider the life of one man Jonathan >> (notation for far greater than in calculus) the majority of the Ijaws who have nothing for the "their son who must be president"? But Ibos support this, the Ijaws cannot and do not have a chance of prepping up a leader who genuinely cares for their lands as governor with someone like Jona who is prepared to dictate terms at all cost. If Ibos put their feet down on what is right only, YES the might "suffer" for a little bit of time but their LONG TERM gains will be unmatched! The ironic thing is your leaders and majority of Ibos and on NL cannot see that! The temporary gratification of a fat salary and corrupt power from Abuja will ensure that your leaders will support the current holders of power! Such a person might gain a lot personally, but since when did you become full (needing no food), educated, clothed, comfortable in life, etc because a man from your tribe, your governor gets all the privileges that millions of people are praying for?

Well, I commend you. I do not hate ibos, at all. I lived in Iboland myself from your Imo State. I can tell you my house sef if you wanna confirm! However, think about it: if a girlfriend or wife or friend breaks friendship with you because you are not good enough now (for 1 million reasons, whatever), not that he/she is perfect or doing any better; why would you accept to give any benefit to such friend after the breakup for ANY reason, alliance, whether you are doing better or not? This is one of the things that will happen if Nigerian were to break-up. If everyone gets it right and make a good life for their people, nice! Whatever chances ibos have, other people also have. However, there will be lots of issues and then it will be too late to want to make alliances and friendships, for what? I think you are a good person but a breakup will FORCE the new countries to have every non-National removed from their country, this is reality. There is no law that can stop that from happening! Some of your people will be on the receiving end of the agitations of a few but it is what it is. Ibos will need MANY things and I know you have a lot of things too, just like any other new country coming out of Nigeria. However, you will NOT have access to the sea, the coastal states have NO OBLIGATION to allow you any access by road, water or air! Any unauthorized plane or vessel could be fired upon, this will be the reality. This limits your options economically (imports and exports), war and defence as well as several socio-economic consequences. Iboland grew palm kernels and made palm oil in the days of regionalism. You can go back to farming but where is the land? If you used all your land to farm, where will people live? Yes, you can import but from where? Since you will be boxed in, the cost of taxation could be quite punitive such that a big percentage of your monies is shared with states with coastal access or ports. They might demand as much as 40 - 50% of the value of the imports, but what choices would you have then?

I am very sure there will be conflicts around your borders for minorities will be always on edge to check any small encroachment on their lands. Being friends or allies will not be enough because it becomes an issue of two countries in negotiation - you MUST bring something to the table and that thing must be worth the other countries while. What will it be? I don't speak for the SW but I will SAY there should be no Ibos within our borders and in the lands of all those who may choose to be part of our country. With not less than 40 M Yorubas in Nigeria alone, the most educated, the most schooled, some of the most developed areas, lots of land for farming, access to several hundreds of KMs of Atlantic Shoreline, an already sophisticated people for more than 10,000 years, war history dating back over a 1,000 years, lots of accomplished people, myself included, what will the Ibos offer to the SW? Only Oyo State is about all the size of the SE. We have oil in Lagos, Ogun and Ondo State, HUGE oilfields offshore FOR US, un-mined gold deposits in Ilesha, one of the largest deposits of Oil Sands in Ondo State, the biggest and most famous educational institutions in Nigeria which are internationally recognized and for which highly trained foreign professors will be pleased to leave the West to go and teach and conduct research in our universities. There are airports in Lagos (should be 2 soon), 1 in Ibadan, 1 in Akure, 1 in Osun State. We can pick up to 4 capitals besides Lagos and designated them as our heavy industrial, oil and gas, administrative and culture capitals while Lagos will continue to be our business capital a la New York or London. Naturally, we have pride in the work of our Great grandfathers and Fathers, we love our lands, we can be welcoming and share them with our guests who MUST respect us and the heritage bequeathed to us! We will have a military capital, the most advanced military research and defence fortifications in the modern world, continuing a legacy of over 1,000 years of solid military history. FYI, the Aare Ona Kakanfo (War General) position of the Yorubas has been created for over 700 years, just to let you know this stuff is real.

What would we need from the Ibos? I can't speak for the northerners but I am sure even if they needed 1,000,000 things, they will NEVER accept or take anything from you people and we all know that an average Northerner doesn't like the Eastern Ibos. They also have an interesting culture, very content with what they have, usually care less about material possessions and they have enough land to grow food and water - they will LIVE for sure! For the adventurous of them, I will wager that if they think they are suffering and want someone to blame, it will be the Ibos, who they will view as the root cause of the break-up. Yes, I know every man's life is his responsibility and you cannot blame your neighbour if you are poor but when emotions rage, reason is out! This is why Hitler blamed the Jews for the loss of WW 1 and he organized genocide against them in WW 2 - he was WRONG! However, the damage would already would have been done. Organize protests, cry, shout, write letters, that will not wake-up people who will be victims. In current Nigeria, the Northerners know that the balance of power and action is not their exclusive prerogative. If a crazy leader wants to start war against any part of the country for no just reason, say north vs east, the can be absolutely SURE the Yoruba SW will not be supporting such madness! However in a broken country, we don't have to be bothered so far as you don't come close our lands or into those of our compatriots or people who might have allied with us and with whom we have treaties.

I have laid out several issues and I don't mind to have intellectual challenges to any of my positions but please, no insult or tribal hatred. If the facts are hard, state them, I cannot be offended. So, come up with your strongest reasons!

Abagworo: The truth remains the truth. The only way out for Igbos is to stand for what is right and stop seeking affiliation with people who have inherent hatred for Igbos for no just course. Igbos on the other hand need to grow some balls and claim what is there's without giving a damn. That's one thing I am proud of myself for. I look beyond ethnic groups in my dealings and nothing can stop that. The same reason I like Okorocha and Amaechi. Do the right thing and damn all these ethnic and religious jingoists across Nigeria.

I wrote a reply on your post but it was rather long, going beyond this topic. I do not want to derail such a vibrant debate. If you are up to it, check out my post at https://www.nairaland.com/1352090/advocates-divided-nigeria-need-think.

mens dept:

Even if this fallacy is deemed to be true, what did it do for the Holy Ijaw folks? Did it bring them the best universities and high schools Africa (forget about the world) has seen? NO!

Did it bring a world class airport to Ijaw area that brings billions of naira into their local economy? NO!

Did it bring a world class stadium and sports facility for Ijaw youths and scholarship and scout recruitment? No!

Did it bring a renown Movie industry or studio into the forest of Ijaw land so that the country and the world can learn and love Ijaw language and culture? No!

Did it pave roads and highway systems that rival those in U.S. and the autobann in Germany, so that Ijaw fishermen can transport that tasty Oporoko and the likes to and fro without police checkpoint and bad pot holes? NO!

Did it generate power stations that produced constant power and energy so that Ijaw women can watch soap operas and cook tasty soups for their husbands with modern equipment and island in their kitchen? NO!

Did it warrant the UN or NATO to seek Ijaw boys for Military learning and training so that Oyibo boys can learn to fight terrorism in the world? NO!

Did it create modern shopping malls, skyscrapers, and beaches (since they are on the Ocean) that tourist would shun Brazil, Dubai, Mexico, and Italy to come to and party or do destination wedding? NO!

So the whole resistance to Biafra or rather support of corrupt illegitimate military clowns and common Wing Commanders parading as State Admin did nothing but put the loud but tiny Ijaws, the Southern Minorities, the Yorubas, and even the Igbos as slaves for British interest and Fulani domination.

Imagine that

So, what has it brought you o righteous hypocritical pharisee?? I hope the ND see you people for what you really are! If ND is lacking in significant areas, just like you people, isn't that a reason to be looking and supporting GOOD LEADERS from their zones and states? Rather, you support someone like Jonathan who is one of the MAIN reasons they don't have any of those things, pretending to support their "son", why you know you can at least get a bridge worth a few billions from "their money", is that not so? The day the Ijaws realize that your support is like a trojan horse, and their own support for thieving "sons of the soil" is the bane of their existence, that is the day of their freedom. The Yorubas to the LARGEST extent were the architects of the constitutional transfer of power to Jonathan after Yaradua became incapacitated. They have since seen that in their neck of the woods, Jona is as mentally incapacitated as Yaradua and his continued leadership is the bane of real progress in the country! Guess what? While doing all that, they are aggressively developing their people and lands! They even are generous enough to let you come in and observe our way of doing things, but you must pay taxes! Our tax nets will widen from the current 3 M in Lagos to another 4-5 M in the next few years! The same ideas are quickly being implemented and honed in Ogun and Oyo State while all you people will have to show for it is one man (Jona) who did nothing as governor and helped to steal you even blinder as president! Carry on, me likey!

Yoruba-Ah!-Ye!:

Our only problem will be how do we retrieve our servitude brothers in illorin, kabba, kogi under emirate rule? They are pulling off their Buba and iro and wearing those Boko hats and babariga while chewing gworo, just to be politically relevant to the progenies of Brown-toothed Dan fodio. I think we should expend our energy on that and forget those "landlocked people". Seriously i see an Odua-Aboki war..che you go follow fight?

Quit pretending, you are ibo, be proud of who you are! Well, go and read my earlier posts. You people will be deported from every part of the country your fathers were migrants to. I am just being realistic here. You will not be wanted by law and policy in the SW, (no one wants saboteurs, pretentious green snakes hiding in our green fields and grass), the north as you know has been severely restrained by the knowledge of the larger Nigerian society (Yorubas, etc for example) whom they know will not accept or give their support for stupi.d wars, genocide for no reasons. As soon as Nigeria is over, they know the Yorubas have better business than to care so far as no one approaches our borders from N, S, E or W! You know what they will do to you if you mistakenly travel around their borders not to imagine you go into their country! The ND knows oil is what you guys want and you will not even come close, now that they are wiser unlike the 1967 whitewash.

Afam4eva: If and should Nigeria break, there won't really be any difference as people will think. Hausas will still be al over the country doing their bureau de change business, suya business and other business unique to them. Igbos will retain their trading business especially spare parts selling in cities all over the country. Yorubas will continue with their taxi business all over the country. So, it's not like everyone will back their bags and leave where they currently live if they. The only thing is that, they will now become foreigners.

You are SORELY MISTAKEN! Whose terms are these? The only way is by negotiation but no one will accept those terms you ignorantly spouted. By war, it will be like the previous war. But by negotiation, here is the similitude of the GOLDEN RULE: If other Nigerians are not good enough for any part of current NIGERIA, they CANNOT be good enough after breakup! Just like you can not eat your cake and have it. It is on record that the ibos are the ones who scream "division" the most in Nigeria and when it HAPPENS, be sure YOU WILL NOT BE WELCOME in the prosperous lands of the Yoruba SW and any peoples that go with them, neither will you be allowed in the oil-rich fields and swamp of the Niger Delta, nor anywhere close to the north! Yes, you can still sell spare parts but it will be within iboland only, quality products can now be imported through our borders, not adulterated, fake products. So forget anything called foreigners of current Nigeria. If you despise other Nigerians now, be sure you will get your comeuppance!

dayokanu:

Who had 4 decades of misrule

I thought Gowon 9yrs, IBB 8yrs Abdulsalam 1yr = 18 yrs all Middle belt

OBJ 3 + 8 = 11 yrs Yoruba

That doesn't add up to 4 decades! I think these people have been spanked upside their heads, maybe by the war, they are permanently impaired from logical and mathematical reasoning! LWKMD

The champions of breakup in Nigeria are MOSTLY igbos. Perhaps, it is time Nigeria considers this possibility but [size=16pt]ON TERMS WHICH WILL BE HANDED DOWN TO THEM AND FOR WHICH THEY MUST ADHERE TO![/size] Are you ready folks??

fellis: ^^^This your username funny sha

LWTMB!

First, the earth will miss millions of humans who will be victims of the break-up, if there is a war.

However, if it were by negotiation, one of the pre-conditions is first to have every one return to their father's ancestral land first for like 10 - 20 years BEFORE breakup. That is more than enough time to get used to it and make new friends anyway. Some of us who don't even live in Nigeria will not even feel it that much...LOL.

So, ibos MUST go back to their iboland first.
The Hausas/Fulani are nice like you said and will go back to their lands, if such a law is made.
The Yorubas will have no problems going back.
All the other tribes should do the same!

Then the BIG KABOOM of disintegration of the cesspit from the people who have kept us back! LWTMB The only people who are most certainly NOT to obey such a resolution, yes you guessed right! They want Lagos and Kano, Abuja and the oil fields of Ijawland and Rivers! The funny thing is the same people who cannot vote useful governors now, who cannot show the world they are special anything now, they somehow think a landlocked country with potential hostiles / non-friendly countries will make their land paradise? Not only with it landlocked, it will be air locked for the air-space of their land will also be accessible from the air-space of people who they have abused for decades now. What if every aircraft known to be going to your land is shot down or allowed to fly after paying very heavy taxes? Where will food come from? Even if it were shipped in from China, for it to fly through other countries borders, it will have to be shared 50-50! It won't be long before economic strangulation and violence makes it obvious it is very unworkable. Only by that time, every part of the SW (including any peoples that go with them) will make it impossible for any ibo to live and work in their lands. Sell your properties now before it is too late or uproot it and take it with you. You will never be able to eat your cake and have it. [size=16pt]If Nigeria and NIGERIANS are NOT GOOD ENOUGH for you NOW, THE PEOPLES WILL CHOOSE NOT TO BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU AFTERWARDS! [/size]

InvertedHammer:

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You don't understand. No club, party has such mandate. What happens is one loses in PDP, he runs to ACN, then to APC, then to APGA, then back to PDP. The cycle continues until he lands in a position where he can steal to recover the funds
expended in prostituting non-existing ideologies. Do you really think that there is any difference in ideology among PDP, ACN, PDP, APGA, DPP, Labour Party, etc.

Na all man to himself.
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If I may ask, do you live in Nigeria currently? While most of Nigeria is still in the doldrums, can you say it is not clear some parts and parties have made clearly significant progress than others? If you are well travelled in Nigeria, answer honestly!

However, if you put it down to the argument of "no ideology" and you are not starting your own party to proffer clear alternatives, then these kind of situations will NEVER go away and WILL NEVER get better! Do you know that the God that a lot of Nigerians shout his name all the time they do something stoopid said clearly: "WOE UNTO the PHARISEES!". Substitute the current hypocrites of Nigeria into that phrase and you will see clearly why your prayers are going nowhere! Of the pharisees, he cursed them why? He said these same people (e.g. people like the Samaritarian Zuby, the OP) will go to the end of the earth to make a proselyte and thereafter, turn him into TWICE a child of HELL. I am sure you understand English quite well, read in between the lines and you will get my drift. Again, I do not live in Nigeria and you need to be outside a system to be able to judge it very objectively. My advice? Make progress one at a time! Do you know that the mere fact that a ruling party is voted out massively and completely in a subsequent election is significant grounds for parties to begin to sit-up? However, as soon as they know that Nigerians remain fish-brained thinkers, unobjective, damaged-goods from the military, colonial and religious eras, they have no incentive to do right!

Did you not read a trending story on OJB Jezreel on NL few days ago? God knows I never knew or heard about him before until then. You saw FOO.LISH Nigerians shouting and running around for $100K. Kudos to those who helped but again, this is a VERY STUPI.D approach to solving societal or national problems! Well, so you helped 1 person, what about the 1,000 similar patients suffering exactly the same disease alone (not to mention other equally serious ailments?). Is the life of 1 person >>> than the other? It is the same reason your leaders in Nigeria think they are >>> every other Nigerian and deserve to be treated with millions of USD while ordinary Nigerians die like chicken everyday! Think about it! In a place like where I am (and yes, they are FAR from perfect humans or systems) but MONEY or FINANCE will not be A REASON WHY he will be in such unfortunate situation! There is a system that would have solved the problem LOOOONNNNGGGG before it becomes a $100 K problem or managed it much better before he had to go through so much suffering and pain. If Nigerians keep voting their PDP and retardeenic governments, the rewards of the fooli.ishness will only be their portion and it does not matter how many times you call GOD or ask that another samaritan stops to rescue a 100 injured people when a functioning system will EASILY take care of the problem while providing jobs and quality care for the citizens!

I will give you kudos for your work and humanity to stop and help people in such an unfortunate situation.

However, I will go further and differ significantly from MOST people here writing comments. [size=16pt]IT IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT AND EFFECTIVE TO HAVE A WORKING SYSTEM FOR WHICH STATE & LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE FUNCTIONAL AND ROBUST HEALTH POLICIES & PROGRAMS![/size] Since this incident, dozens of such accidents would have happened with possible fatalities, how many places or individual people will be of much use to these situations? Do you know that in a serious environment with developed systems, YOUR MOST IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTION (EXCEPT UNIQUE CASES OF DIRE EMERGENCY & YOU ARE A TRAINED MEDICAL PRACTITIONER) is to CALL 9-1-1 AND STAY AWAY! YOUR WILLINGNESS BUT UNTRAINED HELP WILL CAUSE MORE HARM AND KILL THE INJURED FASTER!

I don't live in Nigeria! My advice, go and VOTE for political parties that have accomplished people-oriented policies and who at least listen to the people! This is of course any party but your PDP in the East of Nigeria. The bigots among you who are in the majority will prefer to come running to NL to make posts, stupid prayers mentioning God when you have refused to do the MOST BASIC THINGS: ORGANIZATION, SYSTEMS, POLICIES, ETC! Your help might have saved a few people (kudos to you) but you will be clueless when emergencies in which victims have only 1 hour to find professional health care! Over here, it is the norm that when VERY severe accidents happen, the endangered victims will be air-lifted to tertiary hospitals immediately arriving possibly in 15 - 30 mins. Note there are ambulances which have perpetual right of way when responding to an emergency but this system goes even further by air ambulances. This is the way to PLAN in order to AVOID USELESS, STUPID PRAYERS and 50 NL posts from sympathizers who slam every alternate opportunity to evolve a better society because the main actors of such are from the North or South West or from mars, so far as they are not from their tribe. A word is enough for the wise but I am aware foolishness runs in most tribalistic and religious beings in Nigeria.

Abagworo:


Nigerians traditionally are people of justice at least in our traditional religion. All Igbos believe in what is called "Ofo na ogu" which can be translated to an oath to always be unconditionally just and truthful. Jonathan is good by heart and deserves our support like I've always written but he is not the "messiah" . Buhari or alternatively a very brutal but corrupt-free military leader is needed to cleanse Nigeria for the good of all. Why everything Jonathan has been doing with an excellent economic team and high oil prices has failed to make any meaningful impact is because of institutionalized corruption. If Jonathan had inherited a clean and corruption-free Nigeria, we would have been on another level by now with the brains he's using as his team.

I agree with you to a large extent. Well, Jonathan may not have inherited this clean and corrupt-free society but remember that IS HIS JOB! He was there with Yaradua who surely had faults but not brazen stealing for which he was directly responsible. Jonathan was part of his team and many Nigerians including myself campaigned that the "right" thing be done in the face of Yaradua's incapacitation. What did he do as soon as executive powers was in his sights? Re-institutionalize brazen corruption, EXACTLY A MAJOR PART OF HIS JOB. He relegated the Navy, Army, etc constitutionally empowered to protect Nigeria's coastal oil infrastructure and gave out contracts to the tune of billions and now it is reported that oil bunkering and theft is now significantly high to threaten the country's output. He failed and is failing at his job!

chidindufrank: My guy forget long talk, as for now till 2019 GEJ is the right man for the country. If you're talking of other young men,ok Sulivan Chime and Mamiko are good but is not yet their time to take over

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Is it not the same MAmiko with ZERO integrity deficit, who is one of the champions of the FRAUD NGF elections you are alluding to? Or is it the Yaradua Chime? Think well, your head could be useful for something more than just thinking crap!

Abagworo:

Most Igbos know that Jonathan is not competent but are foolishly supporting him on grounds of being from East. It does us no good supporting someone who is unfit just because of tribe or region.

BTW is Leo Amadi an Ikwerre or Igbo(Southeast)?

Your type who can still speak the truth even when it is not "politically", "tribally" or "igbolistically" correct are becoming fast extinct in this world today. I hope it is not a matter of time before you are converted into one of the people you speak about here. It could be money or huge propaganda or a promise of 72 virgins in the hereafter - I hear every man has a price. What is yours?

Napoleondegreat:

You shall remain a fool for the rest of ur life

Ol'boy why the insult na?