iliyande:


Go to malam for more Islamic knowledge. Prove me wrong that islam is not worshipping moon with allah inside kaba

Emteebee:

I see. So;
Isis
Boko haram
Al-Shabbab
Al-qaeda
And the rest of your Islamic group are all in self defense right. ?
Killing people in sharia law is also self defense right.?
You guys are just like those useless Christians, you sugar coat your religion to gullible people but deep inside its chaotic and disastrous.
Just look at how Islam has disstabilize the Middle East, destroyed the once beautiful country of Iraq,Iran, afganistan, and others. It displaced thousands if not millions of people round the world.
Please tell me how that makes the world better.

Scholar8200:


Can you articulately substantiate this in the light of John 1:18 and other parallel verses?


The real concern arises when we, with our limited intellectual ability (such that we need generations of research to discover extant laws and phenomena) ,try to box God into our inferences else edit His Word!
But the original Bible you are quoting in John 1:18 refutes this! Ezra was so called by the jews, he never personally made this declaration like Jesus did in the verse John 17:1 and many others.

Emteebee:


religious people never go astray from Creator commandments...

Good. Now answer this;
1. What if the creator ask you to kill in the name of the religion. (Tell me how that will make the world a better place.)
2. How would you justify those verses about killing "infidels" in the name of your religion. ( I don't have to list them, you know them)
3. Your prophet waged war on "infidels" and as a muslim you are required to follow his Sunnah, now tell me how that will make the world peaceful.
I would appreciate your reply.

Scholar8200:
Let's keep it simple; let's keep to the verse you quoted in your lead post as our case study shall we? The bolded has been dealt with in other threads.

Scholar8200:

I mean trusting Him to have Eternal life like the passage you quoted declared!

There is a difference between mental assent and trust. The former makes us acknowledge a historical or extant person or object while the latter makes us depend on the Reference (with a current dependence) with an assurance of safety while we do and danger if we dont just like the verse you quoted says.

Scholar8200:
Then why not Trust in Him as The Son of God (and not just a prophet) and receive the Eternal life that transforms our lives on earth and, if we remain in that state, translates us to Heaven after death? No other system of belief claims to impart this Eternal life that was lost by Adam but restored by Christ Jesus. The verse you quoted clearly shows that any who doesnt so trust Him will be lost!!!

Emteebee:

do you know it's religion that is curbing or restricting the cruelness of humans
Please tell me how it restricts it ? Also If it has successfully done that.
I would appreciate your reply.

iliyande:


Let me teach you what your malams refused to teach you.

The Arabic word for "god" is "ilah", while "al" is the Arabic for "the". Therefore, "Allah" combines "al" with "ilah" and removes the "i", to literally means, "the god".



But much like "YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah" is the personal name of the God of the Bible, "Allah" was also the personal name given to the moon god, the highest of the 360 pagan idols worshipped in Mecca, Muhammad's home town.

"Allah" is the pagan moon god of ancient Mecca. Consider what the pagan Arabians did to worship their moon god, Allah; they prayed while bowing towards K'abah, the "house of Allah" in Mecca that houses a meteorite - a stone from space - several times a day, visited it once a year, and walked around it several times during their visit.

• Muslims pray bowing towards the K'abah in Mecca five times a day.

• About two million Muslims visit Mecca every year and walk around the K'abah (the black cube, which is 40 feet tall, on the right).

• The Muslim "holy" month of Ramadan starts at the sighting of a new crescent moon.

Therefore, your allah is not our God.

This is what you worship.

Scholar8200:
That place reads God in English. Since you have an Aramaic Bible, Try quoting John 17:1, or any passage where Father is used. The bolded is ably contradicted by the verse you quoted!!! Else substantiate it.

Scholar8200:
Jesus also called God Father(ABBA also Aramaic) and gave all that received Him the power (right/privilege) to become the sons of God whereby we cry, Abba, Father. Adam lost the Life when he and Eve fell. The result is shown Genesis 6- gross evil & wickedness. Jesus came as the Life (John 14:6), those who truly receive Him and come to God in repentance trusting in His sacrifice on the cross, receive the Life that Adam lost, enabling them to walk in righteousness and Holiness. As far a I know, no other prophet called God Father in the sense and with the depth of relationship that Jesus did. Pls refer to John 1:1,18 in Aramaic. God bless!

Weah96:


Continue in your delusion. What you call "scientific stuff" are either obvious observations like "don't eat sh.it" or amorphous ramblings that can be interpreted anyhow. If they born you well, post something here from your Quran that proves that only a creator personality could have revealed that information.

jcross19:
may God punish allah, I have authority over your so called allah do you think am afraid of your allah curse huh those curse it cursed the christians in that your book of poems and nothing after don't let me descend on that alter of authority and decree into so that you can know the different between white and black.

NumberOne2:


Refering to letters in BOLD:
When the Jews give tithes, who is the Prophet and who was the King?

iliyande:


I don't want to enter argument with you as you moslems believed in arguing mohammed to the Bible/world.

The Law of Moses regulated almost every aspect of life in Old Testament times. But with the coming of Christ, God established a new covenant of faith and love with mankind. Christians are not required to follow the Old Testament rules about crimes and punishments, warfare, slavery, diet, circumcision, sacrifices, feast days, ritual etc. However, the moral and ethical teachings of Jesus and His apostles call for even greater self-discipline than those of the Old Testament.

Remember what caused this long argument is just that christians are saying mohammed is not a prophet and has nothing to do with the Bible and Jesus.

Sorry brother, we still maintain the stand.

Emteebee:

The world would have been better without all of you fools. Rubbish
Religion making man think like a toy since 1ad.
God is 3 different physical entities yet 1. Fucking tell your God to come let me teach him basic math.
Religion my ass.

Anas09:
@ops. The truth stirs u in the face, yet u choose to believe a lie. U were asked a question, is Aramaic language the same as arabic? Do u think because they sound alike they r the same? Is Aramaic word for God allah? Pls what is this one called? Is it stupidity? So u think by trying to put allah and mohamed in the Bible makes Islam Legit? Mba nu. Allah is Satan. Allah actually permits adultry while Jehovah forbits it. Keep trying, God will catch on the road one day soon. U be toy. If no be fear of dead, u, ops, u for no be muslim today.

iliyande:


I use laugh and show most of your posts to my wife to show her how ignorant you are.

All the quotes has nothing to do with Christianity because Jesus came and corrected old testament acts. I don't want to argue that with you because I know you're destined to argue moslem out of mess.

When Jesus said we are to love our enemies, He was creating a new standard for relationships. He proclaimed to the crowds listening to His Sermon on the Mount that they knew they were to love their neighbor because the command to love our neighbor was a law of God (Leviticus 19:18). That we must therefore hate our enemy was an inference incorrectly drawn from it by the Jews. While no Bible verse explicitly says “hate your enemy,” the Pharisees may have somewhat misapplied some of the Old Testament passages about hatred for God’s enemies.

I know your last option will be this.

What did Jesus mean by coming to bring a sword in Matthew 10:34-36?"

Matthew 10:34–36 describes Jesus telling the disciples that He came not to bring peace to the world, but a sword. Jesus’ sword was never a literal one. In fact, when Peter took up a sword to defend Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus rebuked him and told him to put away his sword, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword” (Matthew 26:52).

NumberOne2:
As usual when points cannot be made, issues of ENGLISH language and TRANSLATIONS become the issue.

no no no... translation is the cause of all this misunderstanding...



I will only address the issue of Abraham (bolded in your comment below).

Tithes are given to GOD via a prophet. Tithes are NOT given to the Church. This is a wrong mindset of even some Christians today. Even the Jews did not give tithes to the Synagogue. As in the old days, they are given to GOD via a prophet (or Pastors as they are called today).

cool... love your explanation.. Abraham is a Prophet and he gave tithe to a king .according to the Bible... how come church, pastors and church members are related? who is prophet among them? who is king among them..


The King of Salem (Jerusalem) was a Prophet of God as shown in Hebrew 5...

so you implying that tithe are given from prophet to prophet?

PS: Hopefully you will not use your English tactic to tell me that Pastors are NOT mentioned in Old Testament.

all i want is a biblical prove that pastors are entitled to tithe...

am here to learn about what i don't know about Christianity.. that's main reason i have my own Bible

peace

truthman2012:


Don't mind these people brother.

If Muhammad is the Holy Spirit, what is 'angel' Gabriel? Holy man?

[Quran16:102 YusufAli] Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.

Now, is Muhammad the Holy Spirit or Gabriel (Jubril) that brought the revelations? I tell the truth, neither of them is.

Come to look at it: Muhammad's grandfather was a great idol worshiper and ditto for his father, Abdullai. His mother Amina, was a Jinn-devil priestess. How could these Satan devotees give birth to the Holy Spirit of God? Muslims lack spiritual understanding and are content with deception. May God deliver you all from satanic deception.

NumberOne2:


It was Jesus' custom to go to Church
"And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read." - Luke:4:16

Jesus (as the Christ) was NOT a priest so he could NOT collect tithes.
However, when HE met Abraham in Genesis, Abraham gave him a tithe of the war bounty.
"For this Melchisedec, king of Salem (Jerusalem), priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;" - Hebrew 7:1-2 [see also Gen 14:18 - 20]


Jesus read the Bible
"And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias (Isaiah 61:1-2). And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him." - Luke 4:16-20

About how Jesus Worshiped God.
The fact that it was his CUSTOM to go to Church regularly kinda answers this. He was a Jew.
The Jews worshipped God. I dont think he went to church (synagogue) regularly to PLAY.

This passage may help:
"But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." - John 4:23-24

Anas09:
I also could become a Muslim if Mohameed did straf a 9yr old child. Stole Zaid's wife Zainab, robbed and killed traders to make himself and his followers rich, if he was not a lying pervert, a terrorist, a thief and slowpoke with a very low IQ. If he were not a false prophet backed by satan to exterblish Islam. I would have been a Muslim. But am a christian. And I wasn't always a christian. I studied other key world religious leaders, and I found Jesus exceptional. Stainless, blameless without any scandal. AND, all religion copy the bible, but the bible doesn't copy any of them. That's wen I knew that christ is the way. Stop ur blind arguement and repent before its too late.

malvisguy212:
Ifeann you just reduce the stress for me, I love your reply.
Op, your question has been answered, soo what next? Will you fear God and keep your word?

jcross19:
I can sense that the truth hit your born marrow and speared into liver then you replied in bitter form but let me tell you TRUTH has no other name that he must be told. Where is proof that the quran he quoted is wrong if not ............. Ahahahhah may God have mercy on you but that allah that deluded you is an idiot.

ProfessorPeter:
Don't mind, he didn't know the different btw Ellah and Allah.

KingEbukasBlog:


Lol , u just blessed his soul with the gospel ...kudos

iliyande:


Understand this. I am not saying Islam loves to draw its sword and chop off people’s heads with it.

The hard facts of the quran teaching compel Islam to have its sword drawn. (May Allah never forgive you for lieing against Islam) where in quran are muslims compelled people to draw sword..


For example, in birning kebbi an igboman who don't understand hausa very well says "anabi ya je kasuwa" meaning prophet goes to the market. It is a common name of a new clothes. This became a source of violence that claims several lives. How on earth this religion become a religion of peace? (dumbass, blaming Islam for one fool mistake? before you can blame any muslim, if what they did is not accordance to Islam, it's that person fault not islam)

This is just one out of several ones I have experienced in Islam.

RapLawd:




according to your gullible interpretation of those verses, they ain't worshipping God, they are all worshippers of their fellow men... whatta confusionist you're...