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Iraq Army arrests Saudi suicide bomber in Salahuddin

December 16, 2015 Comments Off on Iraq Army arrests Saudi suicide bomber in Salahuddin

The Iraqi Army and popular forces, in a joint operation, identified and captured a Saudi terrorist in Salahuddin province, military sources said on Wednesday.

“A Saudi suicide bomber was arrested by the Iraqi forces in Makhoul mountains near Beiji before he can carry out any attack on the military or civilian targets,” the sources said.

“The Iraqi forces seized several explosive-laden jackets in the operation,” the sources further added.

Many sources have thus far confirmed vast presence of international terrorists, including the Saudi ones, within the ranks of the ISIL militant group in Iraq and Syria.

Late in November, Spokesman of Iraq’s Volunteer Forces Karim al-Nouri announced that the country’s military troops are now in full control of the city of Beiji, and are now moving towards the key regions of Huweija and Sharqat in the provinces of Kirkuk and Salahuddin.

“The Iraqi joint forces have taken control of Beiji and they are making their way towards Huweija and Sharqat,” Nouri said at the time.

He pointed to the areas that the Iraqi forces have taken back from the ISIL Takfiri terrorists, and said, “We are tightly holding the key areas of Salahuddin and the ISIL cannot take them back by any means.”

Nouri reiterated that the scenario of losing newly seized areas back to the terrorists will not be repeated.

https://shiapost.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Saudi-Suicide-Bomber-600x330.jpg

http://shiapost.com/2015/12/16/iraq-army-arrests-saudi-suicide-bomber-in-salahuddin/

Studies: Suicide bombers in Iraq are mostly foreigners

Hafez, whose new book is "Suicide Bombers in Iraq," has identified the nationalities of 124 bombers who attacked in Iraq. Of those, the largest number — 53 — were Saudis. Eight apiece came from Italy and Syria, seven from Kuwait, four from Jordan and two each from Belgium, France and Spain. Others came from North and East Africa, South Asia and various Middle Eastern and European countries. Only 18 — 15 percent — were Iraqis.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24467953.html#storylink=cpy

Demmzy15:
^^The article clearly said it's a suicide bomber and I don't support suicide bombers, you're the one making excuses for them.

so you would have had no problem with Wahhabi terrorists indiscriminately targeting and killing innocent civilians if they had used machine guns for instance?

As I always say, Yasser Al Habib claimed Iran sends Al Qaeda/ISIS bombers to bomb Shia cities so as to take away Iran from the spotlight.

No be talk am, but your brother!

birds of the same feather, you and al-habib. both of you are extremists. you fabricate news from your rear.

At least 7 Iraqi police forces killed in attacks in Samarra

Mon Jan 2, 2017 8:2PM

At least seven Iraqi police officers have been killed when militants detonated their explosive belts in two police stations in the holy city of Samarra.

According to security sources on Monday, clashes are currently underway at both of the police stations in the central Iraqi city.

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/01/02/504582/Iraq-samarra-police-attack/

IS conflict: Baghdad suicide car bomb blast kills 35

3 hours ago
From the section Middle East

Image copyright AFP

https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/124C6/production/_93205947_mediaitem93205478.jpg
So-called Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack in Sadr City

At least 35 people have been killed in a suicide car bomb attack in a busy square in Iraq's capital, Baghdad, security and medical sources say.

Sixty-one other people were injured by the blast in the predominantly Shia Muslim eastern district of Sadr City.

The Sunni jihadist group Islamic State said it had carried out the attack, which "targeted a gathering of Shia".

Another car bomb later exploded in the car park of the nearby Al-Kindi hospital, killing three people.

On Saturday, IS said it was behind two suicide bombings at a market in Baghdad that left 28 people dead. Again, the reported targets were Shia, whom it regards as apostates.

Monday's attack targeted a square in Sadr city where day labourers typically wait to pick up work.

Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said the assailant had pretended to be a man seeking to hire labourers, and that once they had gathered around his vehicle he detonated the bomb.

Nine of the victims were women in a minibus that was passing through the square at the time, according to the Reuters news agency.

Three policemen stationed at a local checkpoint were also among those killed.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1077A/production/_93205476_80391640-d3dd-4143-800f-203a45e110a9.jpg
The bomb exploded beside day labourers standing and an fruit and vegetable market
Image copyright Reuters

https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/14BD6/production/_93205948_mediaitem93205482.jpg
Nine of the victims were reportedly women who were passing by in a minibus

All of the victims of the attack outside the Al-Kindi Teaching Hospital, just to the south, were civilians, sources told the BBC.

"The terrorists will attempt to attack civilians in order to make up for their losses, but we assure the Iraqi people and the world that we are able to end terrorism and shorten its life," Mr Abadi told reporters after meeting French President Francois Hollande in central Baghdad.

Earlier, Mr Hollande visited the Iraqi Counter-Terrorism Service's academy near the capital and told French soldiers based there that fighting IS in Iraq was helping prevent terrorist attacks at home.

https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/4682/production/_93205081_68abea0a-d845-4d53-a0b6-d615aee5529a.jpg
France's president said fighting IS in Iraq was helping prevent terrorist attacks at home

He will later travel to the Kurdistan Region to meet troops advising pro-government forces taking part in the offensive to drive IS militants from the northern city of Mosul, their last major urban stronghold in the country.

Since entering eastern Mosul at the start of November, Iraqi special forces and army units have found their advances hindered by waves of suicide bombings, as well as snipers, shellfire and bad weather.

Despite that, Mr Hollande predicted that the city would fall within weeks.

"Daesh is stepping back and Daesh will be defeated," he added, using a pejorative term for IS based on the acronym of a previous name in Arabic. "It's a year that will be a year of victory, here, against terrorism."

Elsewhere in Iraq on Monday, IS militants attacked an army barracks near Baiji, about 180km (112 miles) north of Baghdad, killing four soldiers, security sources told the Reuters news agency.

The militants seized weapons at the base and fired mortars at the nearby town of Shirqat, forcing the authorities to impose a curfew and close schools, officials said.

Gunmen are also reported to have summarily killed nine pro-government Sunni tribal fighters at a village near Udhaim, 90km (56 miles) north of Baghdad.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38488091

CC: Seun, Lalasticlala if this attack was in Paris, it will hit front page.

IS conflict: Baghdad suicide car bomb blast kills 35

3 hours ago
From the section Middle East

Image copyright AFP

https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/124C6/production/_93205947_mediaitem93205478.jpg
So-called Islamic State claimed responsibility for the attack in Sadr City

At least 35 people have been killed in a suicide car bomb attack in a busy square in Iraq's capital, Baghdad, security and medical sources say.

Sixty-one other people were injured by the blast in the predominantly Shia Muslim eastern district of Sadr City.

The Sunni jihadist group Islamic State said it had carried out the attack, which "targeted a gathering of Shia".

Another car bomb later exploded in the car park of the nearby Al-Kindi hospital, killing three people.

On Saturday, IS said it was behind two suicide bombings at a market in Baghdad that left 28 people dead. Again, the reported targets were Shia, whom it regards as apostates.

Monday's attack targeted a square in Sadr city where day labourers typically wait to pick up work.

Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said the assailant had pretended to be a man seeking to hire labourers, and that once they had gathered around his vehicle he detonated the bomb.

Nine of the victims were women in a minibus that was passing through the square at the time, according to the Reuters news agency.

Three policemen stationed at a local checkpoint were also among those killed.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1077A/production/_93205476_80391640-d3dd-4143-800f-203a45e110a9.jpg
The bomb exploded beside day labourers standing and an fruit and vegetable market
Image copyright Reuters

https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/14BD6/production/_93205948_mediaitem93205482.jpg
Nine of the victims were reportedly women who were passing by in a minibus

All of the victims of the attack outside the Al-Kindi Teaching Hospital, just to the south, were civilians, sources told the BBC.

"The terrorists will attempt to attack civilians in order to make up for their losses, but we assure the Iraqi people and the world that we are able to end terrorism and shorten its life," Mr Abadi told reporters after meeting French President Francois Hollande in central Baghdad.

Earlier, Mr Hollande visited the Iraqi Counter-Terrorism Service's academy near the capital and told French soldiers based there that fighting IS in Iraq was helping prevent terrorist attacks at home.

https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/4682/production/_93205081_68abea0a-d845-4d53-a0b6-d615aee5529a.jpg
France's president said fighting IS in Iraq was helping prevent terrorist attacks at home

He will later travel to the Kurdistan Region to meet troops advising pro-government forces taking part in the offensive to drive IS militants from the northern city of Mosul, their last major urban stronghold in the country.

Since entering eastern Mosul at the start of November, Iraqi special forces and army units have found their advances hindered by waves of suicide bombings, as well as snipers, shellfire and bad weather.

Despite that, Mr Hollande predicted that the city would fall within weeks.

"Daesh is stepping back and Daesh will be defeated," he added, using a pejorative term for IS based on the acronym of a previous name in Arabic. "It's a year that will be a year of victory, here, against terrorism."

Elsewhere in Iraq on Monday, IS militants attacked an army barracks near Baiji, about 180km (112 miles) north of Baghdad, killing four soldiers, security sources told the Reuters news agency.

The militants seized weapons at the base and fired mortars at the nearby town of Shirqat, forcing the authorities to impose a curfew and close schools, officials said.

Gunmen are also reported to have summarily killed nine pro-government Sunni tribal fighters at a village near Udhaim, 90km (56 miles) north of Baghdad.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38488091

Egypt to remove books of Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Baz and Ibn Uthaymeen from all mosques

The Egyptian Ministry of Religious Endowments have launched a campaign to remove the books of scholars that belong to the Salafi movement from all mosques in Egypt.

Names of scholars whose books are to be removed or confiscated:-

– Sheikh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab
– Imam Ibn Taymiyyah
– Sheikh Ibn Baz
– Sheikh Ibn Uthaymeen
– Sheikh Abu Ishaq al-Huweini
– Sheikh Mohamed Hussein Yacoub
– Sheikh Mohammed Hassan

They have already confiscated 7000 books and CDs from mosque libraries in Cairo, Alexandria and Giza. The authors of these materials include:

– Sheikh Wagdi al-Ghoneim
– Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi
– Sheikh Muhammad al-Maqsood
– Yasser al-Burhami
– Sheikh Abu Ishaq al-Huweini
– Sheikh Mohamed Hussein Yacoub
– Sheikh Mohammed Hassan

The ministry’s department is currently launching an inspection campaign on mosques and libraries in all provinces, to make sure they are free of any books and media calling for “militancy and extremism”.

Source: http://www.doamuslims.org/?p=3861

Demmzy15:
1. Shi'as were the ones that started suicide bombings in the 1980s. Remember that Muslims have been using explosives for more than 500years but your Champs introduced it in the 1980s and then passed it on to your Al Qaeda Brothers. I'm challenging you to disprove this, not with emotions but with facts.

2. Iran harbored and supports Al Qaeda/ISIS even if they kill Shias and this is confirmed by Shias themselves. I gave clear evidence in my thread, Yasser Al Habib confirmed it. So I challenge you and your husseiniyats to disprove it!

logical fallacy!

you are stupid. disprove it. so you throw claims and others should disprove it. the burden of proof lies upon the one who makes the claim. have you ever heard of that?

Japanese Attacks on (Superior) Enemy Military Targets:
Kamikaze (神風 ?, [kamikaꜜze] ( listen); "divine wind" or "spirit wind" ), officially Tokubetsu Kōgekitai (特別攻撃隊 "Special Attack Unit" ?), abbreviated as Tokkō Tai (特攻隊 ?), and used as a verb as Tokkō (特攻 "special attack" ?), were suicide attacks by military aviators from the Empire of Japan against Allied naval vessels ...These attacks, which began in October 1944, followed several critical military defeats for the Japanese. They had long since lost aerial dominance due to outdated aircraft and the loss of experienced pilots.
Kamikaze - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze

Should we take a tour to Syria to see what your brethrens are doing? You don't even need to blow up mosques because the deaths would still be minimal compared to the deaths your brothers have caused through shelling, besieging, incessant bombing campaigns by Shias and their allies on Syrians. So you're doing worse, the number of deaths by ISIS is a child's play compared to Assad and his Shia gangs. More than 300,000 dead from your hands alone.

carry arms, and flood syria from all over the world to fight your so called "jihad" and see if bashar al-assad will not turn you into pests he will crush. go fight a proxy sectarian war in Syria and you reap what you sow. it is the choice your people made to fight. when they carry arms against the government of a sovereign nation that is secular and never for once persecuted ANYONE based on religion or sect, do not complain and feign "civilians" when they get dealt with.

According to Wahhabism, you don't blow up yourself under any circumstances. Refrain from attacking the Jews because when you do, they retaliate in a worse and cruel manner. Please everyone viewing, can you see the differences now? This is his pathetic justification for suicide bombings.

do you condemn the suicide bombings by Wahhabi ISIS that targets Shia civilians in Iraq and Christians in Syria, Egypt, Nigeria and elsewhere? it is a direct yes or no. your (scholars) condemn "suicide bombings" on tv for the cameras while your people do it all over the world, and you do not condemn them targeting civilians of other faiths. hypocrisy! so it is a simple yes or no. then we shall see if Wahhabi clerics truly oppose the targeting of Shia civilians and Christians and people of other faiths.

remember: the burden of proof lies upon the one who makes the claim.

for example, i claimed that Egypt banned the literature and hate writings of Ibn Taymiyyah. here is the proof. a credible news report.

"Egypt bans Salafi books from mosques"
https://muslimvillage.com/2015/06/28/83307/egypt-bans-salafi-books-from-mosques/

Jordan under pressure to ban Ibn Taymiyyah's books
https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2015/6/10/jordan-under-pressure-to-ban-ibn-taymiyyahs-books

another example, Ibn Taymiyyah inspires Wahhabi AKA Salafist ISIS. here is a Reuters article to that direction:

The three powerful scholars fueling Islamic State’s hate

so keep claiming it is Shia Iran that is behind Wahhabi alqaeda and its bas.tard offspring because someone claims so. the burden of proof is upon you and the one, anyone, who makes the claim. the founder of alqaeda (bin laden) is from wahhabi saudi. his deputy from Sunni Egypt and he is Salafist inspired by the likes of Sayyid Kutb,Hassan al-Banna, founder of the (Salafist) Egyptian Muslim brotherhood that was deposed by Sisi.

Demmzy15:
I'm not a Shia, I don't deceive!

As usual nothing reasonable, just empty chest beating. You're the one who's blaming Muslims for the most stupid things. Your propaganda is too much that you can't think straight again. You support suicide bombers yet you claim Wahabis are responsible, my thread about Iran supporting terrorism(Taliban, Al Qaeda) still remain unchallenged. I supported my position with proofs from your Shia brethren Yasser Al Habib.

Now lemme repeat, I'm not BetaThings. We don't even know each other talk less of me being an alternate account!

Oh yes, very stupid thing i accuse your so called "Muslims"; you mean Wahhabis. i am accusing "Muslims", meaning i am not one. i'd rather not be part of your satanic religion of lies and deceit if that is what it takes to be recognized by you as "Muslim".

they are very stupid things (to you) but your Wahhabi brothers continuously blow up Shia civilians in mosques, marketplaces and on the roads, and also Christians in churches. of course, those are not "suicide bombers"; they are angels throwing bombs from the heaven. now you will go to get one fatwa from one idi.ot Wahhabi calling himself a scholar that suicide bombing is forbidden. stop talking and start acting what you claim to preach. ISIS follows Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Abdul Wahab. those are the ancient terrorists called scholars whom they base their killings on their teachings and fatwas. the same men honored by you. (Egypt, majority Sunni country, has banned the hate literature of Ibn Taymiyyah). it is not christians and shias who blow themselves up in places of worship. YOU CAN NEVER FIND ONE INSTANCE OF A SHIA BLOWING UP HIMSELF IN A MOSQUE OR CHURCH FILLED UP WITH INNOCENT CIVILIANS/NON-COMBATANTS OR CARRYING OUT TAKFIRI KILLINGS. you have No iota of shame in you. this your living in denial is why terrorism thrives. you do not want to do any self-reflection to identify that the teachings of ibn taymiyyah and ibn abdul wahab which form the basis of the wahhabi ideology are responsible for terrorism and making takfiri killings the whole-mark of wahhabism. there is no harm in self-criticism. those ancient terrorists were not prophets of Allah. it would not harm your faith in Islam if you identify the truth about them.

i am not shy to say that if the oppressed (like your oppressed Sunni brothers in Palestine) use any means and as last resort against superior military targets and oppressors, whether it is a stone or blowing themselves up at military targets (fighting for survival), they are right to defend themselves. that by no means amount to blowing up yourselves to kill innocent civilians/non-combatants. the difference is clear. it is not the means that is problematic. it is the target and the purpose. self-defense is not a crime. Takfiri killings of non-combatants is the problem and forbidden. the human soul is made sacrosanct in the Quran, yet self-defense is not forbidden. even if you use poison or the most expensive pistol to kill civilians/non-combatants for their faith (takfiri killings), it is still not justified and it is forbidden. even in the Bible, Samson killed himself to kill his superior enemies (in my faith and as per Islamic rules of engagement set by the Prophet Muhammad, targeting of civilians or non-combatants is not justified regardless of the means used to execute the fight).

my Shia brother, Yasser al-Habib is an Iran-hating Shia because Iran opposes his scathing and poignant attacks (his methodology in preaching) on Sunnism and Sunni figures of ancient, for the sake of unity. not like you will appreciate Iran for that anyways. when you can ask him for his own proof to back up his claim, then your parroting would be taken seriously. until then, ask your brothers to stop blowing up civilians. if you want to fight the kuffar and rafidha, fight on the battlefield like men. pictures are spreading online of your wahhabi brothers dressing like women to escape the battlefield in Iraq and Syria. you are only good in targeting innocent civilians for their faith and blowing up your filthy flesh in places of worship. bloody cowards! face the Shia combatants on the battlefield in Iraq and Syria like men. not blowing yourselves amongst civilians. where is the islamic rules of engagement in not harming non-combatants as preached by the Prophet (s)? i am sure ibn abdul wahab and ibn taymiyyah disregard that because in your eyes they know more than the Prophet (s). jahiliyyah criminality and terrorism are in your DNA.

"Samson said to the servant who held his hand, "Put me where I can feel the pillars that support the temple, so that I may lean against them." Now the temple was crowded with men and women; all the rulers of the Philistines were there, and on the roof were about three thousand men and women watching Samson perform. Then Samson prayed to the LORD, "O Sovereign LORD , remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes." Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, Samson said, "Let me die with the Philistines!" Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived. (From the NIV Bible, Judges 16:26-30)"

this should be my last reply to your foolishness.

'Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.'

-George Carlin

'Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.'

-Mark Twain

Demmzy15:
^^^I await the super reply he's going to give you!

you are deranged. so you post with one moniker, and cheer yourself with another!!!!

there is no super reply. you are not worthy of a reply. all your points from your long "rebuttal" to my post, for instance, are your perceptions or lies which only yourself believe. You impose what you imagine and like to say as what others do or believe. that speaks of a mentally narrow person. you lack exposure and education. you dram inferences to make others appear guilty; not for what they use their hands to commit, but what you believe they did not do or should have done or should not have done. and those are far from factual claims. of course not to forget the baseless claims (lies) and open insults and name calling. keep blaming everyone, except yourselves, for your mess, corruption on the earth and terror you spread.

Whytelyon:

As I know, as far as it concerns Shia, the conflict would always be stirred up as something big. Saudi would definitely see to that,even the case of khwariji muslims, should they have existed today, the same Sunni(saudi) would make sure the discrimination and denials would have been far worse than what we see now, I'm sure of that. Why do we get notions of in tolerance, and ascribe it to Islam? Thats because Islam chose it so,and many christians like me, who didn't take time to understand would vent the annoyance and say what they like against Islam, thus what you see in Nairaland. We all are not mad.

Shia muslims are your brothers as they are not called shia christians. Its a good thing they politically shared xmas with us (dialogue) but making Christianity and other scribes and religions your enemies isn't in best interest,that part I want you to understand. Now I've watched the video,but am asking you, with certain judgements now, who would say Sunni are the most peaceful muslims?

please ask the wahhabi freak how does Shia militants attacking (during war time in a war torn country) an american military base that invaded their country the same thing as wahhabi takfiri terrorists killing civilians/non-combatants in faith based killings (only because those civilians adhere to other beliefs). check the freak's posts. he has used and milked the same incidents from decades over and over in every thread to cover up for his brothers of the wahhabi terror ideology. he repeats the same arguments in every thread for many years. his arguments and so called "facts" are out of date while his own brothers of the terror ideology continue to kill non-combatants (innocent civilians of other faiths) for their faith week in and week out the world over. how are political and national causes the same as faith based killings? it is the same tactic used by the israeli occupation government. they want to link and compare wahhabi takfiri terror (they call it "radical islamist terror"; they give wahhabi terror an islamic mask) to palestinian resistance fighting against israeli occupation of palestinian lands. the wahhabi too wants to vindicate himself by comparing his takfiri killings to the cause of militants of other faiths fighting for political and national causes, not related to killing innocent civilians because of the faith they adhere to.

BetaThings:
I am a Muslim, I will admit what people have done and point out issues
Do I deny BH attacks or the deeds of ISIS
Do I support them? No
But people just present them to me and demand that I accept them as Islam

I have lived with Christian neighbours all my life and they cannot ascribe any act of ill will to me
But as soon as I get onto Nairaland, I am told I am terrorist.
And I should just accept it?

A lot of Christians claim that they converted from Islam
Then they should disclose where they were taken for secret terror training
They should tell us how they were told to kill Christians for 72 virgins
They should tell how they were told to do honour killings

So what should I do when I see Christians tell me that all terrorists are Muslims
while I know that Christians were jubilating for murdering Muslims in Jos and roasting their flesh and eating same

https://www.nairaland.com/844296/birom-christians-eat-roasted-flesh
https://callingchristians.com/2012/02/06/nigerian-christians-kill-and-eat-muslims/

This is what Azazi (a Christian NSA under a Christian President) said in 2011 about Muslims and Christians in Jos

Start from 5.50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JJ_N7bZfB8

stop the blame game, and denial. look deep and reflect.

if at all as you claim that it is the fault of Shia and Christians who "support" Sunni Wahhabi terrorists, ask yourself why are followers of your ideology criminal minded and easy preys to be used and abused and dumped like rags by others for their dirty works. it is because of your ideology of hate. you hate everyone. you want to kill everyone if they do not accept your twisted version of "islam" aka wahhabism.

BUTCHCASSIDY:
My friend I love the way y'all argue. You expect me to turn a blind eye to the hostility and the snyde remarks I hear all the time when relating with your peeps. Who calls christians kaffirs? Maybe its the christians that invented the word to give muslims a bad name?
I dont argue based on others' opinion. Im telling you stuff based on my experiences, you make it like I invent stuff up. I live within the society this is the shìt I see not what someone told me. Im not saying shiites are angels but I cant point to one church the shiites burnt nor can I think of one major ethno religious conflict started by the shiites. Its like you want me to lie or ignore the reality on ground just to please U.

do not mind this fanatic. deep down in him, he has the belief that non-Wahhabi Sunnis deserve to be killed. that is Takfiri/faith based killings. it is the wahhabi ideology that has stained Islam with the image that Muslims kill unbelievers and are wild animals wielding swords on rampage to convert the world to Islam, while the Quran says there is no compulsion in religion. he would celebrate every act that targets other faiths. and he would then either denounce the killers as "bad Wahhabi Sunnis" or hold responsible Christians and Shia as the "supporters" of those "bad Wahhabi Sunnis" of his.

indeed, Shia are not angels. Shia Islam is not a pacifist religion. it holds to the idea and right of self defense and enshrined in the Quran. but no where will you see as Shia, in the name of religion, on the rampage to kill people for their difference in faith or to bomb places of worship of other faiths. the only Takfiri killing/ faith based killing ideology is WAHHABISM. and the promoters of wahhabism are the so called scholar the hypocrite respects. read about the campaigns of ibn abdul wahhabi and ibn taymiyyah against the Shia, Christians, and Alawites. those two are the pioneers of the wahhabi takfiri killing ideology that today is practiced mainly in saudi arabia and promoted the world over by saudis.

BetaThings:
What lies? The creed of Shias is lying and

like how you guys rewrite history to make tyrannical monsters become angels?

And we know that nobody can compare to you in propaganda
You are permanently encamped on Nairaland here to tarnish the image of sunnis and paint a world of make-believe of shiaism

we have religious differences with Sunnis, no doubt. but no where have i said all Sunnis are responsible for the wahhabi takfiri terrorism. you want to make wahhabi takfiri terrorists as the face of Sunni Islam, and that has been the mission of saudi arabia. while the truth is Sunnis themselves are not homogeneous and wahhabis waste no time to butcher sunnis who disagree with them, especially Sunni Sufis.

the disgusting part is you point fingers while you unashamedly spread hatred and make stereotypes like an illiterate, and generalize against millions of people because of what they believe in. look at an id.iot like you unashamedly declaring that the creed of the Shia is lying. do you really have sense at all? this is the extremism that make people vomit when you and your likes utter rubbish.

Anyway Iran has links with all the misguided

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2011/05/analysis_al_qaedas_i.php
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1237913/Osama-bin-Ladens-family-living-safe-Iran-9-11-attacks.html

The Killer of Egypt's Anwar Sadat, Khalid Islambouli, was declared a martyr by Iran under Ayatollah Khomeini
Saif al Adel, successor to Bin Laden, was granted asylum by Iran for years after 9/11 attack
Farakhan whose strange beliefs, including supremacy of blacks, are refuted by Muslims was recent;ly hosted by Iran, the so-called Islamic Republic
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/tehran-farrakhan-hails-wonderful-revolution-slams-american-tyranny

Iran has links and Iran did this and Iran did that...but all you have shown us is that the perpetrators of terror and killings, whom you associate with Iran, are Sunnis.

and all those moves of Iran naming a street, is a political move. it doesnt kill anyone to name a street!!! Iran named the street after the killer of Sadat because Sadat was married to a family member of the dethrone Shah (King) of Iran, and it was Egypt under Sadat that granted the Shah asylum after the revolution that deposed him. even the western powers the King was subservient to refused to grant him asylum going by the fact that the revolution was a popular one and fearing a backlash from Iranian people.

Iran according to you gave asylum to bin laden but bin laden was not killed in Iran. he was killed in Pakistan, a saudi ally, by US special forces, in a hiding place close to a pakistani military facility. right? stupid fool!

these nonsense you peddle like a deranged animal are only "facts" to your empty skull because people havent heard of these propaganda.

if bin laden by the mere chance of iran sharing a long border that is porous with afghanistan ever found himself in iran, you can be rest assured that he did that without the knowledge of the iranian government. i wont even waste my time checking those silly links, because they will more than likely be reporting to the contrary of your fake claims.

what you do not tell people here is that the Taliban that hosted bin laden for decades was recognized as the government of Afghanistan by only tww countries: saudi arabia and its pakistani puppet government. and in 1997, Iran almost invaded Afghanistan to fight the Taliban extremists, after those animals your like killed Iranian diplomats serving at the iranian embassy in kabul.

And the biggest lie is to declare that Demmzy15 and BetaThings are the same
Of course, you are a shia. Telling lies is one of the creeds of your religion
And since you have so many accounts on Nairaland including Onyocha, shiamuslim you would accuse others of same

You shias
lie
Curse
defame
as a religious ritual
Here are your scholars confirming that you are rewarded for lying and using indecent language


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J5r-I7tRVs

silly!

So you now believe CIA?

they are your gods so when i mention them, i expect you to bow. not that i believe them.

Good
So they were right when they said SHIA Iran was planning to assassinate the Saudi Ambassador to Washington

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/11/justice/iran-saudi-plot/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/man-in-iran-backed-plot-to-kill-saudi-ambassador-gets-25-years/2013/05/30/0435e7a2-c952-11e2-8da7-d274bc611a47_story.html

it was a "plan uncovered"...so they say. we saw few days back how your brother in turkey shot the russian ambassador shouting Allahu Akbar and "defending" Aleppo by killing a diplomat.

They claim to be Sunnis, but we reject them!
They kill us because we refute them and therefore cannot be part of us. I had not heard of BH before they exploded into malevolence
We neither listen to their scholars nor follow them
We call them Khawarij - the same people who sided with Ali (RA) and later killed him
We oppose them and cooperate with the people who want to bring them to justice

but their ideology is Wahhabis. their inspiration is from Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Abdul Wahab, the same ancient terrorists and pseudo-scholars you honor and defend.

But when you Shias support terrorists and you are called out, you intensify the moral support for them by rationalising their actions and
by pointing at other terror groups
But it is in your creed to support anything that tarnish the image of Islam

one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

the world does not care if a Shia battles ISIS or occupation forces invading their countries.

the world is appalled when based on your takifiri wahhabi ideology your brother blow christian churches, Shia mosques, and hindu temples filled up with non-combatants.

the Shia are men. they are warriors. they are fighting Wahhabi terrorism in Iraq and Syria. they do not go about sniping Sunni civilians walking out of a mosque; like your brothers do in Pakistan and elsewhere: they snipe Shia businessmen, Shia worshipers, Shia students based on filthy hatred. you are filthy.

Actually it does
Go and read the Godfather, your enemy could be using somebody who pretends to be close to you
He might even be an unwitting asset
In Ayatollah Khomeini's last will, he charged all of you Shias with the mission of bringing down Saudi Arabia
Given the hate and bitterness ingrained in your hearts and souls since childhood about sunnis, you will not rest until you bring that about
and Ayatollah Khomeini is dead and cannot reverse that order, there is no hope of you ever toning down your opposition to Saudis
Hence when you cooperate with anyone, the mission is consistent with your instruction from late Ayatollah Khomeini

you have about your suicide bombing claim done by Shia. read below post, and the CHALLENGE posed to you for years that you have failed. Houthis ruled Yemen for many years. they are a nationalistic movement, similar to IPOB or Niger Delta militants.

and these Saudis support Takfiri Wahhabi terrorism against Shia the world over, and against Christians too. and they bend over to the western powers to be shielded and offer oil and servitude like who.res. i am not aware of the will of Ayatollah Khomeini. but will or not, no sane human being will agree or accept to killing other human beings because of what they choose to believe. you have awfully and shamelessly failed to provide JUST ONE EXAMPLE of a Shia bombing a Sunni mosque or a Christian church in faith based killings (takfirism).

you just whine shamelessly while your people keep killing. this denial is what will destroy the entirety of Islam if we Muslims do not stand up to it.

take for example the palestinians. they have a legitimate cause to fight for and they are Sunnis. but israel calls them terrorists after stealing their land. do you expect me to accept that label? maybe Nelson Mandela too was Shia because he fought for his people and was unjustly labeled a terrorist by the white settlers and invaders in his country.

terrorism is when you intimate people and kill them for what they freely choose to believe. it is not when you have a legitimate cause to fight for your people who are oppressed or their lands stolen. self defensive against occupiers and oppressors is never terrorism. that is why you will never hear of a Shia blowing himself up in a church or in a Sunni mosque or in any place of worship of other faiths, or blowing up marketplaces filled up with non-combatants. when you Shia blow up an American base in beirut, that base must be a military base or a military target. that base must have housed american occupation soldiers. americans cannot come into your house, into your country, imposing on you, r a p i n g your women and controlling your life, and you expect the citizens of that country to clap for them. are you serious? what is an american base doing in beirut? is there a lebanese or any foreign military base in Washington? are you a silly slave?

Yet you Shias started mass- takfiri
You shame, insult and denigrate the Prophet of Allah (SAW) when you accuse of 99.99999% of his follows of apostasy
That was the first case of takfiri in the Islamic world
Even Umar (RA) who was leading Muslims in prayer when he was murdered by your hero is a kafir in your religion
So praying salat or saying la illlaha Ilah Allah is not enough for you
Umar (RA) who was reading the Qur'an while he was murdered and whom Ali's sons tried to protect was a kafir in your religion
Your religion is hateful and unforgiving

yes, there is no problem in TAKFIR itself. every religious person believes only his own religion takes to heaven or salvation. there is no harm if i believe you are faithless or an unbeliever. the problem is when that becomes the basis for killing others. the PROBLEM IS TAKFIRI KILLINGS. get sense for God's sake!

yes their cause is to destabilise the Middle East on behalf of Iran
Just like you plan to destabilise Nigeria
and make all of us become sheeps and puppets to Iran
I am a freeborn Muslim, I am answerable to Allah, loyal to my country, not a tool in the hands of some foreign country
Here, remember
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22515062
Iranian Azim Aghajani convicted over Nigeria arms


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/11/iran-arms-smuggling-case-roils-nigeria/
Iran arms-smuggling case roils Nigeria

oh please. always learn to give both sides of the story. and those weapons were said to be destined for the Gambia or Senegal. but those governments were too chicken to admit to the almighty America that they were buying cheap iranian weapons because Uncle Sam does not permit anyone to patronize iranian made weapons. they could not spite Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam only sees itself as the sole distributor of ammunition. everyone must buy from its weapons industry.

Lying is 90% of the religion of Shias
90% of your statements are lies and you get spiritual reward for lying

Ok let us leave the Wahhabis and look at what other Imams from the 4 madhabs have said. All of them agree that the twelver shias (Rawafid) are lies

i do not give a damn if you or they think i am a liar. F you and F them. who cares?!

I did not write what you responded to. So I am not so bothered that you can accuse me of being bipolar on Nairaland like you
But remember the
Lavon Affair?
Google it
There are always false flag operations

yes, false flag operations like the CIA and your wahhabi saudi masters claiming they uncovered an iranian plot to kill the saudi ambassador in Washington. like who the hell is that ambassador who is a mere parrot?

FriendChoice:
Iran Using Commercial Planes To Smuggle Weapons To Terrorists

The Obama administration has given clearance to Western airline manufacturers to sell planes to Iran at the same time the Islamic Republic is using commercial airliners to smuggle weapons and other illicit arms to Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon, according to new intelligence and congressional communications obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

The disclosure of this new intelligence, which shows that Iran has been using its commercial airline company to smuggle advanced weaponry to Hezbollah and terrorists operating in Syria, has placed renewed focus on a congressional inquiry that has been stymied by Obama administration officials since early October.

Senators, led by Sen. David Perdue (R., Ga.), have been pushing Obama administration officials to explain why they are helping airline manufacturers Boeing and AirBus sell planes to Iran, despite clear evidence that Tehran is using its commercial airline as cover for its continued terrorist operations across the region.

As with multiple other congressional investigations into the Obama administration’s efforts to roll back economic sanctions and conduct secret dealings with Iran, officials have stonewalled Perdue, refusing to answer key questions about the motivation for aiding Tehran’s pursuit of planes that could be used to further its terrorist enterprise.

This new intelligence comes just days after the Obama administration approved a second license for AirBus, a French company, to pursue even more sales with Iran.



https://thenigerian.ng/intel-iran-using-commercial-planes-smuggle-weapons-terrorists/

as far as the weapons are not meant to be used on Takfiri killings but to fight for a cause, that fight can be settled through peaceful resolution.

BetaThing AKA "Demmzy15"has come here again with his lies and propaganda to tarnish the image of others and bring them to his levels. even CIA and the entire America could not establish links between Iran and Alqaeda. notwithstanding, alqaeda is Sunni Wahhabi all the same and being supported by a Shia country or a Christian power, does not make them less Wahhabi. you have about your suicide bombing claim done by Shia. read below post, and the CHALLENGE posed to you for years that you have failed. Houthis ruled Yemen for many years. they are a nationalistic movement, similar to IPOB or Niger Delta militants. they are not Takfiri terrorists who kill people because of their faith. they have a cause. not randomly bombing places of worship belonging to other faiths as your Wahhabi terrorists do and the Wahhabi Takfiri ideology promotes. i have said enough. read the below and check the below thread and see how your lies have long been exposed and you keep regurgitating these same lies in every thread. you are only making yourself to be known as a chronic liar who has nothing in knowledge to offer and who is ashamed of his own and not ashamed to lie for them.

ShiaMuslim:
foolishness with a loud mouth does not make you sound smart. you are just stupid. the challenge given to you from years still stands.

PLEASE PRESENT JUST ONE, ONLY, NEWS SOURCE FROM MAINSTREAM MEDIA, WHERE IT WAS REPORTED THAT A SHIA USED SUICIDE BOMBING TO KILL SUNNIS OR CHRISTIANS IN FAITH-BASED KILLING (TAKFIRI KILLING). JUST ONE! YOU WILL NOT FIND ONE!!!

the instance you are referring to is not "suicide bombing". and "suicide bombing" HAS NEVER BEEN used by Shia to bomb others from other faith in Takfiri or faith-based killings. can you deny that?

WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS PUBLICIZED: the Shia of Lebanon used "martyrdom operation" to target superior military target occupying their land through force. not to attack mosques, and churches to kill others or innocent people or non-combantants for their difference in faith as WAHHABISM promotes. targeting superior military occupation target through "martyrdom operation" is also used by Palestinian Sunnis against superior Israeli occupation forces occupying their land to inflict maximum damage on legitimate military enemy target. this means has been backed even by Sunni scholars like Sheikh Ahmad Yaseen who was assassinated by Israel. again, fighting occupiers of your land is way DIFFERENT from indiscriminately targeting others on faith-based killings (Takifir killings) which is promoted by the Wahhabi hatred and extremist terror ideology. RESISTANCE TO OCCUPATION is NOT TERRORISM even if Israel calls it terrorism. it is human right for every people under occupation to fight for their liberation using whatever means. even the US constitution gives right to the people to carry arms to fight for their freedom. this has nothing to do with Iran or Shia exclusively. it is not the means used that matters, but the target and purpose. but obviously, sectarianism has eaten into your skull.

that is the only point i will clarify so you do not end up with your sectarian illogical arguments. otherwise, you will fail to realize that only WAHHABISM teaches faith-based killings, a belief totally ALIEN TO ISLAM, and Muslims, be they Shia or mainstream Sunni.

https://www.nairaland.com/3229194/seeking-muslim-solution-islamist-terrorism/6#47857765

Demmzy15:
^^^I always knew you'll sure your ugly face here. From the above video, the following can be deduced:
1. Shia Iraan supports Al Qaeda/ISIS and this is confirmed by a Shia scholar you present videos from. Yasser Al Habib
2. ISIS as attacked many Sunni countries(Saudi, Iraaq, Kuwait, Jordan, Turkey) and non-Muslim countries but hasn't stepped a foot on Iraan. This shows that there's a convenant of security between the two.
3. ISIS which is sponsored by Shia Iraan kills thousands of Sunnis(as per the case of Al Shieetat tribe in Syria and others), innocent Shias and Non-Muslims.
This is why no matter the twisting and taqqiyah, the truth would always unveil itself.

you are beyond ridiculous! i wanted to reply to your post without quoting it, but who would resist quoting such comic relief!

so Shia Iran supports Sunni Wahhabi ISIS and Alqaeda who behead Shia Muslims, and who would love the idea of one day invading Iran, like they invaded cities in Iraq and Syria? They have not attacked Iran proper because they have no safe haven in Iran. Iran is 95% Shia. Where will they hide? Their troubles and terrorism are restricted to Sistan and Balochistan, the only Sunni majority provinces of Iran, near the Pakistani border. Even there, they get beaten by Iranian security forces.

never mind how ridiculous your claims are. it still remains to be reckoned with that it is Sunni Wahhabi Takfiri terrorists who go about blowing the places of worship of other faiths and they randomly kill innocent civilians of other faith in Takfiri based killings. regardless whether you claim that Iran is sponsoring your Sunni brothers or not. and it is Sunni based ideologies and doctrines that the likes of ISIS and Alaqaeda use to perpetrate their atrocities against humanity and claim that they are serving Allah. You still cannot come up with JUST ONE EXAMPLE where a Shia Muslim blow up himself in a Sunni mosque or in a Christian church in takfiri attack. Why?! Iran is not using Shia youth to blow themselves up in Sunni mosques. it is funny that Shia Iran is using Sunni Muslims to blow up Shia worshipers and places of worship based on the claim that Iran supports Sunni terror groups who like your stupid self believe the Shia are not Muslims, but apostates and heretics who should be killed.

i can swear that you do not even believe what you just typed. not even the CIA can establish a link between Iran and alqaeda or ISIS. yet, the fantastic mind of an idle Sunni youth, whose brain is submerged in sectarian hate mongering, and roaming an online forum is making such claims to make himself feel better to sleep at night. if you really believe your claims, then you need your head checked! religion is dangerous for your health!! Very irritating that someone like you is using scaremongering and terror claims to attack another faith. Terror is your trademark! You have destroyed the image of Islam and Muslims. Do some reflections and soul searching. You need to be emancipated from the evil spirit of sectarian hatred so as you can see the true spirit and beauty of Islam.

Empiree:
Don't go overboard akhi. It is not about Wahabism at all. Every muslim MUST be able to differentiate Islam from other religions. I condemn both end of extremism, i:e those who joined in celebrating xmas and those who condemn reciprocating greetings when christians greet them "merry xmas". Greeting is simply a courtesy that islam requires of us. There is nothing shirk in that. However, what islam condemns is JOINING them in their worship which was the reason Sura Kafirun was revealed. Those who joined them in worship are transgressing.

Greeting, that's FULL STOP. A muslim is even allowed to attend church wedding of friends or family members( who are christians). What we dont do is joining in their worship. It is the same as Aborisha, Odun oro, Odun Eegun, Agemo. If they say to you "A ku odun" return the greeting and move on bcus all these people greet muslims in their holidays as well. So this is simply courtesy. But joining them in worship is going overboard. When you go to church, sit at the back and let them do their rituals(worship). After they finish then you can join in their neutral feast. Period

So this is not Wahabi thing please. There are bunch on non-wahabi sunni schools who do not share your view. This is one example

https://www.facebook.com/ustadhismail.agbeti?fref=ts


^^^

Above is a sunni-sufi. December 25th is not related with Nabi Isa (AS). Not even all christians celebrate it on this day. Orthodox christians do theirs sometimes in January. And some christians like Jehovah Witnesses don't even celebrate it at all. But if they wish you "merry xmas", simply return their greetings especially if they are cool neighbors. But joining them in their xmas celebration is tantamount to worship. If you can not join Oro or Agemo festivals, you cant join this either. It is established fact that Isa(as) was not born on this day.

the majority of the Christian world celebrate Christmas, which symbolically commemorates the birth of Jesus on December 25. how you concluded that they joined them in worship is beyond me. they paid a solidarity visit to foster unity and peace. being present in Church as a show of love and peace and unity, does not mean they were actively partaking in the worship. if in times of peace you do not visit them in their churches, do you expect them to be kind to you in times of need? there is nothing wrong in joining hands with them on Christmas in show of love and unity. the visit is purely to foster unity, peace, and love. it has nothing to do with worshiping. likewise, our Christian brothers have joined the Shia during Ashura, Arabaeen, and Ramadan to foster unity and peace and love. that does not mean either party is abandoning his beliefs to join the other. and by the way, Wahhabis have already declared Shia as non-Muslims; so i really dont know why they are bothered and confused that Shia are stretching their hands to Christians. this is not even the first time it is happening between the two parties in exchanging solidarity visits in Kaduna. Wahhabis do not even celeberate Mawlid (birthday of the Prophet Muhammad) and considers that too as a sin. as for Christmas, nothing is wrong in using it to foster unity because we all, Christians and Muslims, identity with the virgin and miraculous birth of Jesus. we should magnify what unites us instead of what divides us. for example, we do not mark or join Easter commemoration because it is a dividing point between Islam and Christianity. we, as other Muslims, do not believe Jesus was killed or crucified. that is explicitly stated in the Quran. but as for Christmas, you are the one going overboard. it is stated in the Quran, "peace be upon him (Jesus) the day he was BORN, the day he will die, and the day he shall be brought back to life". so please, try not to draw hasty conclusions and judge the intentions of people without concrete facts. Muslims and Christians have long misunderstood themselves. any gesture that will foster peace and bring Nigerians closer should be encouraged and celebrated and not criticized.

intruder15:
I thought they said Muslims shouldn't wish Christians Merry Christmas

you guys should stop generalizing. Muslims are not homogeneous as you have always imagined or the Western media would want to paint Muslims as one big bulk of the same people.

Shia Muslims join in felicitating with Christians during Christmas. Sunni Wahhabi preachers are the ones who keep hammering that Christmas is a sin and it is forbidden to wish Christians on Christmas. Wahhabi preachers even view commemorating the birthday of Prophet Muhammad (s)- Eid al-Maulid- as a SIN!!!

SOURCE OF THE OP'S ARTICLE:
http://imnig.org/members-imn-celebrated-christmas-christians-kaduna

CC: Seun Lalasticlala

FriendChoice:
Don't have time to reply you again. You come here to spam the thread and you will not be entertained.


. The First Link Now Works:. It shows how the haters of Islam are prostrating to Fire instead of Allah Almighty

mumu...it is the very video i was referring to in my last post. where the man spread his mat.

of course you do not have time to read and reply to what makes sense. your job is to spread ignorance, hatred, sectarian killings, and Wahhabi takfiri ideology to divide and cause bloodshed in the Muslim ummah. you follow satan. satan loves division, hatred and everything negative. you can never have sense.

DISCLAIMER: I AM IN NO WAY JUSTIFYING WHAT THEY ARE DOING. IT IS AN EXTREME PRACTICE WHICH SHIA SCHOLARS HAVE DENOUNCED SIMILAR TO SELF-FLAGELLATION. IT IS BASED ON EMOTIONS AND NOT OUR RELIGIOUS OBLIGATIONS OR PRACTICES. BUT THE POINT IS THEY ARE NOT WORSHIPING FIRE AS SOME RE.TARDS WANT TO IMPOSE ON THEM.

FriendChoice:
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Don't have time to read all the shit you write. I don't expect you to see them worshipping fire cuz' you're blind. Those who have eyes will see them praying and prostrating to fire and it smokes. The video is less than 2 minutes. People can watch it.

mumu...that is not worshiping fire. the first link you presented is not working. the second is working. after the second video ends on youtube, that is what you're referring to-the subsequent video shows a man spreading his mat on hot coal and praying while others watch hitting their heads and lamenting and crying. it is symbolism. Imam Hussein (as) praying in the hot desert of Karbala. there is lot of symbolism your dumb head will not understand. if you pray in the rain does not mean you are worshiping water.

besides, who the hell are you? we owe you no explanation or justification for our faith. let us assume people are worshiping fire or whatever, does that concern you? the problem here is that you are forcing your stupidity as the belief of others. you force your dumbness on others.

DISCLAIMER: I AM IN NO WAY JUSTIFYING WHAT THEY ARE DOING. IT IS AN EXTREME PRACTICE WHICH SHIA SCHOLARS HAVE DENOUNCED SIMILAR TO SELF-FLAGELLATION. IT IS BASED ON EMOTIONS AND NOT OUR RELIGIOUS OBLIGATIONS OR PRACTICES. BUT THE POINT IS THEY ARE NOT WORSHIPING FIRE AS SOME RE.TARDS WANT TO IMPOSE ON THEM.

Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkzM4hHn5Jc&feature=share

Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5MTtXha9Ms

FriendChoice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch&v=waPH7IlBa6Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=yYF34UGOjqw

i did not see them worshiping fire. I see them stepping on fire.

how did you conclude that by stepping on fire, they are worshiping fire? do you see how you oppress us? you see how you lie and spread false information and hatred? may Allah not forgive you and may He punish you intensely in this world and the next for the lie you are spread if you do not repent. this is where it all starts that "Shia are not Muslims". may be someone who cannot afford to watch the video because he can't buy data, would keep repeating that "Shia worship fire" when even in the video you present, it is not the case!!!

they are stepping on fire. on burning coal. ask what that this. that is done in Pakistan as another extreme form of re-enacting the sufferings of the Prophet Muhammad's (s) Ahlul-Bayt/Household members (as) after the Tragedy of Karbala and the beheading of the Prophet's grandson Imam Hussein (as). they do it on Ashura just like they do self-flagellation (tatbit). they step on hot burning coal because the Ahlul-Bayt (as) stepped on the hot desert walking from Iraq to Syria barefoot and in chains as prisoners of war, thanks to the fifth Sunni caliph Yazeed Ibn Muawiya (la). even this practice (stepping on hot coal), like self-flagellation (tatbir) is denounced by Shia scholars because it is too extreme and a form of self-harm.

but i still want to understand how did your perverted form of "tawheed" (monotheism) in your perverted Wahhabi skull concluded that Shia are worshiping fire? how? do you think? are you human? are you sane? are you sure it is the religion of Muhammad (s) you truly follow, or the religion of Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahab? to the extent of lying just to tarnish the image of others? you see how lies spread to the extent of your ignoramuses crying out that Shia are not Muslims? you do not fear Allah. you follow your hatred and sectarian desires and animal instincts. to summarize it all, you are filthy.

Dear Seun, this is a good example of how hatred is spread. I would kindly appeal to you to take this thread to the front page to expose such lies. the OP thinks this will tarnish the image of others, but on the contrary, it exposes his lie. let people understand how these Wahhabis mis-think.

it is like seeing Muslims facing the Ka'bah and concluding it is worshiping the Ka'bah. by the way, Muslims climb and similarly step on the Ka'bah. or Muslims slaughtering a ram, and concluding Muslims worship animal blood. very parochial. but sadly, among the ignorant such works wonders. it evokes the animal instincts of intolerance.

9inches:
Why must a non muslim pay jizya abd what happens if he refuses to pay?
@bolded, that is your opinion.

it is a taxation. i really dont know the punishments as i am not a scholar as it will most likely depend on the circumstances surrounding the refusal to pay.

what happens if you refuse to pay tax in any modern country? it doesnt have to be called jizyah.

Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:39

Iran Sends over 70 Tons of Humanitarian Aid to Syria

https://media.farsnews.com/media/Uploaded/Files/Images/1393/11/04/13931104000533_PhotoI.jpg

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iran has sent over 70,000 kilograms of various supplies to Syria, a senior relief official announced.

"We sent several humanitarian aid consignments to Syria with a total weight of 75,000 kilograms," Head of Iran's Rescue and Relief Organization Morteza Salimi told reporters on Saturday.

He noted that the humanitarian aid consignments included tents, blankets, heaters and rice, and said, "We have also dispatched five tons of medicine to Aleppo."

In early September, Iran sent humanitarian aids to the citizens of the Shiite towns of Nubl and al-Zahra in Aleppo province.

“Iran’s humanitarian aid is being distributed among the residents of Nubl and al-Zahra towns,” Head of Nubl City Council Ali Balvi said on Saturday.

Last June, Doctors Without Borders or Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) asked for Iran’s help to supply people with medical support in government-controlled areas of Syria.

"Doctors without borders has an active presence in Syria and today their chief asked for our liaison with Syria's Red Crescent to allow them in areas controlled by the Syrian government and provide services to them," Iranian Red Crescent Society Managing Director Seyed Amir Mohsen Ziyaee told reporters after his meeting with MFS France President Mégo Terzian in Tehran.

Balvi did not give further details about Iran's aid for residents of Nubl and al-Zahra.

He noted that IRCS is responsible for providing people with relief aid and the visit by the MSF's President to Iran takes place to discuss helping the people of Yemen and Syria.

In mid-May, a senior relief official announced that Iran had sent over 46 tons of various food supplies to Syria last year.

"We sent several humanitarian aid consignments to Syria with a total weight of 46,100 kilograms last year," Deputy Head of Iran's Red Crescent Society (IRCS) Sarem Rezayee told FNA.

Rezayee said that the humanitarian aids sent for the Syrian people included blankets, food supplies and tents.

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950927000712

supporters of wahhabi sectarian takfiri terror are playing the victim's role. when explosions target Shia civilians in Iraq week in and week out since 2003 because a Sunni tyrant was removed from power by his american masters, where were these champions of Islam to fear God and condemn bloodshed? silly people!!! when turkey opened its borders for terrorists to rush into syria from around the world, didnt they think of civilian lives? when assad was demonized and hated based on sectarianism because he is not Sunni, were these loudmouths not alive to make a rethink? make una stop crying. in war, its a win or lose affair. and as much of a dictator assad was/is, he is a better option any day to wahhabi takfiri terrorists. no Sunni ever complained at he was targeted by Assad because of his Sunni faith.

Seun, please be mindful of the topics from the Islam section that go to the front page. do not let them abuse your forum to promote Wahhabism. the so called Sheikh, Ibn Abdul Wahab is the terrorist on whose deviant and parochial teachings he formed the bloodsucking Wahhabi cult. i am not saying this because I am Shia and i am a "lesser Muslim" to his blind eyes. both his father and brother disagreed to his teachings and they authored literature to refute his deviant claims. the OP is treating a divisive topic (tawassul/intercession) and judging it with his Wahhabi lenses through Ibn Abdul Wahab, as if this ancient terrorist represents Islam and all Muslims. he is in that line calling other Muslims that subscribe to differing ideologies to his ugly names. i believe that is unfair. and taking such topic to the fp is promoting division and hatred among Muslims, a motion of takfirism upon which Wahhabism was founded. Islamic topic ought to explore the beauty of Islam and the divine virtues as taught by the Prophet, his Ahlul-Bayt and the pious among Sahaba. not some deviant topic by a deviant cultist of the Wahhabi blood sucking cult.

Re: Absolving the Ahlul-bait

By Mahdi Garba | Publish Date: Dec 16 2016 2:00AM

On 18th and 25th November, 2016 edition of Daily Trust, Qaddam Sidq Isa raised some allegations against the Shia Muslims, capable of misleading the populace. This is not the first in his series of attacks on the Shia Muslims and their doctrines, but the later appeared under title ‘Absolving the Ahlul-bait’ makes it obvious that he’s intellectually challenged.

Qaddam started his piece with underestimating the Arba’een gathering adroitly. He dodged the background of the arba’een, what prompted the Shia Muslims to trek the long distance he said. Presumably the writer’s impetuosity to pen his fairy tales about the relationship between the Ahlul-bait and the Sahaba, which he copied from archaic Wahabi texts, is what makes him to skip the background, let alone the significance.

When I read where Qaddam is heading to, that is to show that there was no skirmishes between the Ahlul-bait and the Sahaba I expected him to introduce a fresh debate not to copy and paste a long-term controversial topic that had been answered centuries ago. He mentioned six Shia Imams that named their children the names of Abubakar, Usman and Umar. May be he forgot that even before the Sunni caliphs we have many that bear those names.

With a quick glance at historical books we see that Abubakar, Umar, Usman ibn Ali ibn Talib were all children of Laila the daughter of Mas’ud Thaqafi, Ummu Habib and Ummul Banin, respectively. When reflecting on the similarity of the names with that of the Sunni caliphs it can be said: the public mindset at the time was in way that these names were not significant and subject to attention and accordingly didn’t possess approving, connotative or denotative meaning. Then if Ali chooses to name his name Abubakar or so it isn’t reminiscent to the Sunni Caliphs.

Besides, these names were not condemned and hated by Shiites as Mu’jam Al-Thuqat Vol. 21, pg 66 has listed nearly 60 pages of narrators that had the name Umar or Usman bn Saeed which was one of the representatives of Imam Mahdi during the time of his minor occultation. Also, these names had been used before and after Islam among Arabs. Early Wahabi theorists and of today are yet to fabricate even a weak hadith to justify that Imam Ali named his children those names out of love.

On the issue of intermarriage between the ahlul-bait and Sahaba, Qaddam flipped the archives of his predecessors, alleging that Ummu Kulthum the daughter of Ali was married to Umar. The Ummu Kulthum that was married to Umar died in the year 50 Hijri and Ummu Kulthum bnt Ali was at the battle of Karbala in year 62 Hijri and was married to her cousin Abdullah bn Jafar bn Abi Talib. For avoidanace of doubt Qaddam and his cohorts should see Al-Bidaya wan Nihaya and Rozatul Ihbab Volume 3 pg 585.

Historical evidences show that Fatima (as) passed away 6 months after the demise of her father and thus her date of death was 11 Hijri, and Ummu Kulthum was born in the year 9 Hijri, according to Sahih al-Bukhari, Arabic-English version, tradition 5,546. Then how possible was it for her to be born after the death of her mother if Sunnis claim that she was married to Umar in the year 17 Hijri at an age of 4 or 5 years, that would put the date of birth after as 12 or 13 Hijri, which was long after her mother’s death?! I have many discrepancies for the claim that Umar married Ummul Kulthum but couldn’t disclose it for the sake of brevity.

And on the marriage between Umm Farwa and Imam Jafar, Qaddam quoted that as a circumstantial evidence that obliterate the animosity between Ahlul-bait and Sahaba. Mr Qaddam should take a glance as Imam Jafar’s linege from both sides. Paternal: His father was Muhammad Baqir ibn Aliyu Zainul Abideen bn Husain bn Ali bn Abu Talib. Maternal: His father was Ummu Farwa bnt Qasim ibn Muhammad ibn Abubakar ibn Abu Quhafa.

None of the personages on the paternal side need introduction to all Muslims, for brevity I will focus on the maternal side.

Umm Farwa’s stature and knowledge can be judged from the fact that she once touched Hajrul Aswad with the left hand, a person objected that it was against the Sunnah. She responded “Ana al-aghnia’a min ilmak” [I (belong to that household that has no need for your ilm. She was brought up by her father Qasim who was her teacher as well, and has been introduced by Imam Jafar Sadiq himself as one of those honest, pious and God-fearing persons whom Allah has promised to love.

Qasim was counted as one of Madina’s seven greatest jurists and was brought up and taught by his father Muhammad ibn Abubakar. Muhammad is one about whom Imam Ali proudly said that although he is a biological son to Abubakar but I see him as my own [Muhammad’s mother Asmaa bnt Umair was initially married to Ali’s brother Jaffar al-Tayyar. After Jafar’s martyrdom she married Abubakar and after his death she married Ali.]

He was not brought up by his biological father Abubakar who died when he was small, and he paid the price of being with Ali’s son by being sewn into a Donkey’s skin and burnt alive on the orders of Muawiya, the father of Yazid, the son of Hind and Abu Sufyan. Everyone is worthy of our utmost love if he loves Ahlul-bait devoid of his clan (Ummayyads, Hashimites, Abbasid et al). Shiites have no antipathy for any personage, family or clan.

Finally, Qaddam quoted a fabricated hadith which was credited to Imam Jafar on Zurara bn Ayun. The predecessors of Qaddam forged the whimsical narration to discredit all the traditions narrated by the pious Zurara bn Ayun. Imam Khu’i in his book Mu’ajam Rijalul hadith, vol. 8 pg 247, as well as by Muhammad al-Abtahi in Tarikh Zurara pg 65.

The chain of narration is broken between the narrators Majelwyeh and Zyad bn Abi Halal. On the contrary we have authentic traditions from Imams of Ahlulbayt praising Zurara and others of their companions. We read in Rijalul Kashi, pg 151 which has been declared ‘Sahih’ by Imam Khu’i in Mu’ajam Rijal al-Hadith, vol4 pg 197 and in vol pg 268: Jami bn Daraj said “I heard Abu Abdullah (as) saying ‘Give glad tidings to the humble ones in paradise, Buraid bn Muawiya al-ejli, Abu Basir laith bn al-Bakthari al-Muradi, Muhammad bn Muslim and Zurara, four pious and faithful to Allah in (the matters) of halal and haram, without them the prophetic traditions have been lost”. There are ample of traditions of Ahlulbayt that passed encomiums on Zurara that cannot be discussed on newspaper pages.


Mahdi wrote this piece from Jos. He can be reached at mahdigarba@gmail.com


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9inches:
You say conditional, I say convenience.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by historical context contained in the surrounding text.
Most contemporary Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence.

this is your opinion.

You are establishing that Muhammad NEVER went on an offensive, yeah?

yes, absolutely.

What happens to me and my family if I refuse to pay the named ransom?

that verse is referring to Muslims, and not to you as a non-believers. but on another note, both Muslims and non-Muslims have prescribed taxation. likewise, even in a secular state, there is taxation. tax evasion is a very serious crime in western countries.

SmartMugu:
Wow. I thought this was just in Nigeria, thanks for letting me know it's global. I do know a lot of wonderful Muslim people, how do one identify which one is Shia/Sunni? Since one of them have problems with others. Do they dress, talk, look or act differently? Or is it ok to just ask them if they're Shia or Sunni or they may consider that a rude question?

There are observable peculiarities. But for a non-Muslim or someone not very informed, you may not know which Muslim is Sunni and who is Shia. The Shia are the minority for very obvious reasons (persecution).

CarrotAndStick:
Let me break it down this way:-

Shia Muslims don't respect human government and refuse to participate in politics.

Misconception.

This isn't a universal Shia stance to boycott political participation. In some cases it is true, not because Shias don't believe in government or participating in politics but not to get entangled in corrupt and oppressive governments. Corruption and oppression are the deterrence.

CyberWolf:
In my humble opinion, both shia and sunni are calamity to the world and the earlier they get rid of themselves, the better for all of us.. Both sect can kill themselves for all I care, we have much more problems to worry about than this two useless sect.

Such an opinion is neither humble nor humane. I'm certain you have never spoken to a Shia Muslim before other than reading online.