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PoliticsRe: Shi'ites Registered School Destroyed In Kaduna (Photos) by ShiaMuslim: 5:15pm On Nov 17, 2016
francisbiz:
E concern u? Shia & suni like killing Christians. Killing theirselves is a BIG TESTIMONY. Praise JESUS
when, and where have you ever heard of Shia Muslims killing Christians? you can go beyond the borders of Nigeria and cite once that Shia Muslims have attacked a church. there is no precedence. Shia Muslims do not practice Takfiri Killing (faith based killings). Wahhabis do that. do not spew hatred.
PoliticsRe: Shi'ites Registered School Destroyed In Kaduna (Photos) by ShiaMuslim: 5:13pm On Nov 17, 2016
sandland:
Iam really surprised by what we say in this forum. No religious group has a right to warship in a way that conflicts with the state. Shitte members are thought to disregard any state law. The authority they know is their leader. Please read their beliefs. Besides Buhari is not a president you want to fight with.
hey fool, do not speak in the name of Shia. Not alll Shia in Nigeria are followers of Sheikh Zakzaky, even though Sheikh Zakzaky's Islamic Movement in Nigeria (IMN) is the largest Shia organization/group. you know nothing about Shia Islamic beliefs and principles. so do not utter rubbish. if the school is registered with government, then how is that disregard for state law or the authorities?
PoliticsRe: Biafra Will Never Be Member Of Any Islamic Body, But Will Accept Shiite – IPOB by ShiaMuslim: 3:49pm On Oct 30, 2016
EternalTruths:
Shi'ites have never launched a terrorist attack against Nigerians.

But Boko Haram a Sunni group has. kiss
Sunni is a big word. It is even wrong to use the blanket word to refer to Boko and its likes. Break it down to Wahhabism. That is their common factor.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Will Never Be Member Of Any Islamic Body, But Will Accept Shiite – IPOB by ShiaMuslim: 3:47pm On Oct 30, 2016
EternalTruths:
IPOB and Militants will never oppose any group that is Anti Nigeria so long as they are not in the black book of that group. kiss
Shia Muslims are not anti-Nigeria. They are pro Nigeria and proudly Nigerian! The Shia will appreciate sympathy from any angle. But that doesn't translate to supporting separatism or disunity. The statement of the OP is more or less exploiting the Shia wound and sufferings. And it is very sad.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Will Never Be Member Of Any Islamic Body, But Will Accept Shiite – IPOB by ShiaMuslim: 3:45pm On Oct 30, 2016
EternalTruths:
Shi'ites are not against Sunnis

What they want is to practice their own brand of Islam peacefully

Unfortunately, Sunnis feel they are a corrupt version of Islam that must be eliminated.
Well said in the first part.

Among Sunnis, Saudi Wahhabism md it's influence and followers see Shia as threat. Largely Sunnis are peaceful. However, because Wahhabis pose as Sunnis, every Sunni is a potential Wahhabi. With knowledge and enlightenment, Sunnis everywhere will distance themselves from Wahhabism.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Will Never Be Member Of Any Islamic Body, But Will Accept Shiite – IPOB by ShiaMuslim: 3:42pm On Oct 30, 2016
Sealeddeal:
Shi'ites are not against government. They're against Sunnis and that's why they're being massacred.
Shia are not against our Sunni brothers. Majority of Nigerian Sunnis are Sufis. Shia and Sunnis live in peace. It is those minority Sunnis that follow Wahhabism that see Shia as apostates and heretics. And they are minority among Sunnis but deadly and hateful. Their language is terror and takfirism and force. They feed on blood. Shia and Sunnis are brothers. It is only when Saudi Wahhabism spreads its influence that you see blood of Muslims spilling. Otherwise, Shia and Sunnis have and will always live in peace. The main doctrine of Wahhabism is takfirism and takfiri killings. It divides Muslims into believers and unbelievers.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Will Never Be Member Of Any Islamic Body, But Will Accept Shiite – IPOB by ShiaMuslim: 3:37pm On Oct 30, 2016
TimeManager:
Your stewpidity gives you away, you'd rather quit & go worshipping the god of the Shiites.
Kiss the truth!
Shia are first and foremost Muslims. Our God is Allah and our prophet is Muhammad (s) and our religion is Islam.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Will Never Be Member Of Any Islamic Body, But Will Accept Shiite – IPOB by ShiaMuslim: 3:32pm On Oct 30, 2016
CliffordOrji:
You are welcome to Biafra
You should feel ashamed as a Muslim, you're likely Sunni, that non-Muslims have more regards for the lives of your fellow Muslims than you do. Your sectarian blindness thanks to Saudi Wahhabi influence and Saudi-Iran rivalry, is making non-Muslims to have room to exploit our differences. Yet we have one God, one prophet, one holy book and one qiblah. Stop the hate mongering. The story is the same in western countries. Muslims find more freedom in the western countries to practice Islam than in their own countries.

The infighting and hatred will lead to nothing good but will turn us into the laughing stock of the world. You can be Sunni and love your Shia brothers and sisters without yielding to Saudi Wahhabi influence. Wahhabism is all about dividing Muslims. It is about takfirism. It is about declaring other Muslims as disbelievers. You can be Sunni and still not be under the hateful spell of Wahhabi takfirism and dividing the ummah of Islam into believing Muslims and disbelieving Muslims. We are all believing Muslims!
PoliticsRe: Biafra Will Never Be Member Of Any Islamic Body, But Will Accept Shiite – IPOB by ShiaMuslim: 3:27pm On Oct 30, 2016
omenka:
iPod Nairaland chapter is confused exactly how to respond to this. grin

Just the other week, they became the No1 fans of Aisha Buhari (our amiable first lady) because they thought she was fighting her husband only for them to get a cannonball in their faces when she declared her unflinching support for his husband days ago.

They despise everything North and Islam but are seen here giving "gambaris" a bear hug because they seem to be "fighting" the FG. Tomorrow, the "gambaris" would mend fences with their assumed foes and iPod would be thrown into chaos yet again. cheesy

By the way, Shiite is an Iranian movement and we all know the most mortal enemy of Israel (assumed origin of iPod) is Iran- or maybe, iPod leaders no know sef. grin

So, what the heck- what is iPod up to and why are they avoiding this thread?


Modath, you gotta come in here, and please, bring a Little Boy along. grin

iPod wants to Islamize Biafura.-- iDaft Miscreants. grin
Nairaland is truly poor!

Can you people stop spreading misinformation?

Shia Islam is not an Iranian movement.

Up till the 16th century, Iran was majority Sunni country. On the other hand, Egypt at a point in history was a Shia country.

Shia Islam is not an Iranian movement just like Catholicism is not an Italian movement.

There are Saudi Shia, Egyptian Shia, Lebanese Shia, Pakistani Shia, Indian Shia, and all these and many more nationalities are not Iranian.

We Shia hate the idea of being linked or connected or associated with Iran in every way even to the extent of being accused that we are an Iranian movement. We share same beliefs with the majority of Iranians. But our faith is not a nationalistic Iranian movement. We can disagree politically with Iran and that doesn't mean we'd stop being Shia Muslims.
PoliticsRe: Biafra Will Never Be Member Of Any Islamic Body, But Will Accept Shiite – IPOB by ShiaMuslim: 3:21pm On Oct 30, 2016
CliffordOrji:
How did I encourage mass murder of civilians? You are the one that abused and refered to someone as ''demon worshipper'' and I explained to you that the teachings of shiism is similar to that of Yazidi moslems who also worship Shaiton(Satan)
The above is ignorance. Yazidis or izadis don't call themselves Muslims and they are not Muslims. They are not a sect/branch/ideology of Islam. Their religion predates Islam in Iraq. They have nothing in common with Shia Muslim. However, sectarian hatred has made some people go blind. It's like saying Muslims in the south west have similarities with sango worshipers because they share the same geographic space. For your info, Izadis are only found in Iraq and no where else. While Shia Muslims are found in every country of the world.
Christianity EtcCatholic Bishop: "What Is Going On With Shiites Very Sad" by ShiaMuslim(op): 12:05pm On Oct 20, 2016
Cardinal Onaiyekan Warns Christians in Kaduna; If El-Rufai Can Ban Shiite Group, He Might Ban Christian Churches Too

Africa, Headlines, Religion

By NewsRescue

October 20, 2016

Archbishop John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan, who is the cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church, Nigeria, has gave out warnings stating that Nigeria might be unintentionally be preparing for another rebellion with the current measures against the Shiite Islamic group by the government of Kaduna State.



Bishop Onaiyekan, made a description of the development as a sad one, which he advised the government to safeguard the freedom of religion of every single Nigerian.

The Cardinal made this know during the weekend while he was on a visit to Ilorin on an invitation by Bishop Ayo Maria Atoyebi for a yearly one week spiritual retreat for the catholic priests of Ilorin diocese.

“While on the move to keep advising the government, when you put a stop to a group of persons on the basis of religion, they won’t accept it. when people also feel like their basic rights have been trampled upon, they will say no. And when they refuse it, how they will react and protest might end up being more than what you can control.

“It is at that point in time they will carry out some acts that the same government will paint as a violent reaction and you might need to bring forward more violent help. The story of Boko Haram should have taught us so much, and I am hoping that Governor El-Rufai, who used to be my friend in Abuja should surround himself with better advisers.

Governor el-Rufai with EFCC officials, arrested for embezzlement
Governor el-Rufai with EFCC officials, arrested on charges of embezzlement


“In my opinion, what is going on with the Shiites I consider to be very sad. It is so sad. We should not forget in a hurry that this same group last year had a clash which we were told that they lost hundreds of their members, and some reported that their bodies were thrown into mass grave.

“How can a religion be banned? I am not settled because, one day the government might just decide to ban the Catholic Church in Kaduna. So I am saying at the top of my voice at the moment so that when the moment comes that the Catholic Church is being banned, at least it will be remembered that I gave warnings when the Shiites group was also banned. It is not right at all.

“We have gotten to a stage in Nigeria when we should be able to conform different religions.”

Kaduna News Online



Read more: http://newsrescue.com/cardinal-onaiyekan-warns-christians-kaduna-el-rufai-can-ban-shiite-group-might-ban-christian-churches/#ixzz4NceEsFDc

CC: Seun Lalasticlala Mynd44
LiteratureRe: My Life As A Terrorist.. by ShiaMuslim: 8:22pm On Oct 19, 2016
This is so fake!

You need to improve your writing skills.

The call to prayer you have used is the Sunni call to prayer (adhan). The Shia call to prayer is slightly different.

Shia Muslims (except those who change from Sunni) rarely if at all bear the name Abu Bakr.

You are not well informed to write silly fictional stories about Islam.

I'm sure with the garbage you're composing you have already imagined yourself as another Salman Rushdie in the making. It's easy to insult others but hard to make sense.

redon12:
My name is "Aakil" but I use abubakar in school ..
my dad is is known as Ahmad he is an imam and have a "musalachi"(mosque) in the northern part of Nigeria ..
I bear my fathers name in school throughout my primary, secondary education to tertiary..
for in the muslem law it is forbidden for a son to renounce his own fathers name..
even the daughter should use her fathers name in their husbands house..
we were the type of Muslims they call the "Shiite"
I studied chemical engineering in a unibersity in the northern part of Nigerian..
i was the Last born of the seven sons and two daughters of my father...
I finished my school in the year 2008 well am not sure if I graduated and stayed back... home I was a very religious kind and never missed "Salat"(daily prayer) even a day..
my Father made sure to instill that discipline in his children..
My dad is a respected,wealthy Muslim leader and imam in the north eastern part of Nigeria..
and as the last born I admired him a lot and made sure
to follow his footsteps.. I wished to be like him one day....
its time for prayers Yusuf is looking for you.. my mom yelled from our back yard..
..
we went to the mosque and prepared for prayer. washing our legs and feet and face
for purification..
"Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar"
[God is the greatest, God is the greatest]
"Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar"
[God is the greatest, God is the greatest]
"Ashadu an la ilaha ill Allah"
[I bear witness that there is none worthy of
worship but God]
"Ashadu an la ilaha ill Allah"
[I bear witness that there is none worthy of
worship but God]
"Ashadu anna Muhammadan rasoolullah"
[I bear witness that Muhammad is the prophet of
God]
"Ashadu anna Muhammadan rasoolullah"
[I bear witness that Muhammad is the prophet of
God]
"Hayya'alas salah" [ Come to prayer, ]
"Hayya'alas salah "[ Come to prayer, ]
"Hayya'alal falah "[Come to success, ]
"Hayya'alal falah "[Come to success, ]
"Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar"
[God is the greatest, God is the greatest]
"La ilaha ill Allah"
[There is no deity but God. ] the speaker in front of my fathers mosque blared..
"the first chapter of the Quran was recited and then we prayed and as we prayed... facing the mosque in the city of "Makkah"
after the prayer I went to the back just before the mosque arena..
my father was talking to some Muslim scholars... I recognised them through their faces they once visited my dad ...
and my dad introduced them to me...
he said that I could ask them any question..that they will see me true
I really made friends with them and they liked me..
Most of my questions were all focused on "jihad"..
how to be a devout "jihadist"...
they liked me more and seeing then talking to my dad they wanted me to join them preach Islam all over the province of Nigeria..
I left the mosque and went to my mum.."peace be with you mum" same to you my son..
Mummy I don't think I will like to go back for my masters I said..
why? she asked ..
mom I want to devout my self to our religion school just dull me out... and besides I did not write this professional exam with them..
so I don't think I will be graduating with them...
My son you should finish your school its important that you do that so that you will excel in life..
nna so in yi tafiya
(mum I want to travel)
I said bluntly..
ka yi tafiya ka je ina ne? (travel to where)
Nna so nje ntia due Dan wana a "Bornu"( I want to go and stay with my brother in Bornu)
to be continued...
IslamRe: Shiamuslim, I Have Questions For You. by ShiaMuslim: 8:12pm On Oct 19, 2016
Naijacitizen:
Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahamatullah Wa Barakatuhu.
What are the views of Nigerian Shia on our constitution?
Why are the Shia people not participating in civil servant?
Please I need answer to the above questions in short and precisely.
Stay blessed.
Wa alaikum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh!

I think your questions are misplaced. You meant to direct them to members of the IMN.

There is great misunderstanding even in the media. They call the IMN "Shiites". They are Shiites no doubt, but grouping them as such gives the IMN exclusivity over Shia Islam in Nigeria and that is wrong. Not every Shia belongs to the IMN. That is wrong because not every Shia or Shiite is a member of the IMN. The IMN is a local religious group or organization in Nigeria. Even in Nigeria, not all Shia Muslims identify with the IMN even though the IMN is the leading Shia Islamic group in terms of numbers. And the media is just lumping all Shia Muslims and gifting them to the IMN. The media also label the IMN a sect. It's a group. Shia and Sunni are the two major Islamic sects the world over.

The Shia faith is worldwide. The IMN is local and Nigerian. Today the kaduna state government made a good clarification that it is the IMN that they banned and not Shiites or Shia Islam as a whole or as a religion.

As to why the members of the IMN do not vote or take part in civil service, I have no idea. I am not part of the IMN. I however and unreservedly condemn the killings of all civilians or religious persecution in whatever form and shape and to whomever it is done to and by whoever.

I've heard that some of them vote. And I've heard they don't. I read that Bukhari Muhammed Bello Jega who was killed in Zaria with his wife and child was an APC cardholder and he was an active campaigner for the president. You can run a quick Google search. I even saw a link to his Facebook profile and of the pictures he posted during elections.

As for the generality of Shia Muslims, we believe in Imamate (divine leadership or divinely chosen leaders). We believe strictly that the only legitimate government is of the representatives of God (prophets and imams) and any government that takes its legitimacy from God based on the Holy Quran. Nevertheless, that doesn't mean we Shia go about disobeying law and order. We don't do that and our scholars have issued countless fatwas binding Shia Muslims to be peaceful and law abiding people wherever they find themselves, in their own countries or in foreign countries that may not even be Muslim countries but non-Muslim countries.

I think the entire problem in Nigeria and the IMN is largely based on misunderstanding, mistrust, doubts and fear. Understanding and dialogue are always key to peaceful coexistence.
IslamRe: Tatbir (flagellation) - A Disturbing Innovation by ShiaMuslim: 10:58am On Oct 17, 2016
Demmzy15:
Cc ShiaMuslim!
Why are you guys excited about tatbeer?

We owe you guys no explanation. The 1% among us who do it, do it on their bodies. You guys should be ashamed of the ideology of terror you follow which sees your brothers blow up people of other faiths in takfiri attacks.

Even those among us like myself and Albaqir who are in the overwhelming majority and we condemn tatbeer, we still understand the rationale behind the 1% who perform it. It's symbolic and its philosophical. Imam Hussein (as) was killed along with his household and companions by your fifth Sunni caliph. He was abandoned and betrayed by the hypocrites. The blood letting the minority perform either sincerely because they are overtaken by emotions or for show, is symbolic that they can use their blood to defend Imam Hussein (as). Now what is halal and what is haram? In Islam, actions are judged by intentions.

You're following apparent error and supporting the path of the enemies of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) and the conspiracy of Saqifa, yet you make tatbeer an issue beyond its proportions. It's 1% or even less that do tatbir. The beauty of Shia Islam is that we are allowed to hold differing views on matters of jurisprudence and the branches of religion without us fighting among ourselves or shedding the blood of one another or passing on ourselves Takfir like your people do.

People who share an ideology with those who use the same ideology to justify shedding the blood of innocent people of other faiths have no grounds to make tatbeer an issue.

You guys should continue being childish and have fun. Brother Albaqir shouldn't entertain you guys.
IslamRe: Tatbir (flagellation) - A Disturbing Innovation by ShiaMuslim: 10:44am On Oct 17, 2016
Ayatollah Sistani releases official fatwas with his seal or directly from his official website (www.sistani.org) .

If the alleged fatwa of Ayatollah Sistani has neither a seal and nor from his website (no link), that fatwa is not genuine.

I just checked the above website.

I checked the Q&A and also made a search on tatbeer or tatbir and I got no results.
IslamRe: 2016 Ashura Day: Shia Slash Themselves With Cutlasses (Disturbing Photos) by ShiaMuslim: 9:41am On Oct 17, 2016
I just checked the above website.

I checked the Q&A and also made a search on tatbeer or tatbir and I got no results.
IslamRe: 2016 Ashura Day: Shia Slash Themselves With Cutlasses (Disturbing Photos) by ShiaMuslim: 9:36am On Oct 17, 2016
Ayatollah Sistani releases official fatwas with his seal or directly from his official website (www.sistani.org) .

If the alleged fatwa of Ayatollah Sistani has neither a seal and nor from his website (no link), that fatwa is not genuine.
PoliticsPlateau State Denies Banning The Shia IMN Organization by ShiaMuslim(op): 5:38pm On Oct 16, 2016
PoliticsRe: Attack On Shia Muslims Continues In Kaduna From “House To House" (Pics, Video) by ShiaMuslim(op): 7:06pm On Oct 15, 2016
Abagworo:
You are too intelligent for an average Nigerian. The Governors have classified information they are working on. Plateau Governor for instance outlawing them in his State shows that it is not unconnected with BH recruitment.
Keep lying. First you accused the Shia of being behind religious violent against Christians. And now you're trying to link them to Boko.

Boko is Sunni Wahhabi. Wahhabis are the Sunnis who see Shias as apostates and heretics. The two can never mix.

Those who kill Shia and hate them in fact have the same takfiri beliefs and mission as Boko. Wahhabi groups and clerics want to eliminate Shias. Shias are an antidote against Wahhabi terror groups like Isis and Boko.
PoliticsRe: Attack On Shia Muslims Continues In Kaduna From “House To House" (Pics, Video) by ShiaMuslim(op): 6:51pm On Oct 15, 2016
x12345678x:
Sincerely I fink ur fellow Muslims r gonna be pissed at ur clumsiness, cuz ur cramping dia style. They been trying hard to come up with discussions to show how peaceful ur religion is.....den along came Kabir exposing the fearful truth behind Islam. Thanks a milli, those of us who went sure if violence has anyfyn to do with Islam can now tell understand. Thanks again
Don't mind him. He represent the Wahhabi current in Sunni Islam.
PoliticsRe: Attack On Shia Muslims Continues In Kaduna From “House To House" (Pics, Video) by ShiaMuslim(op): 6:31pm On Oct 15, 2016
lexiconkabir:
if only your optic nerve was working, it would've interpreted this "you tried to make it seem as if no terrorist group claim to be shi'as" properly for you.
Both the houthis and hezbollah are national movements in Yemen and Lebanon respectively. They are more or less like Niger delta militants. They want greater say in their countries. The represent populations. Hezbollah in Lebanon has its main mission to drive out Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon which is predominantly Shia Muslim. And they are supported by the local population. Hezbollah has 14 MPs in the Lebanese parliament and two ministers in the Lebanese government. Hezbollah represents a constituency in Lebanon that is 43% of the Lebanese population. Of course, to Israel hezbollah is a terrorist group because they fought to reclaim their stolen land in south Lebanon. To Lebanese and the greater world, hezbollah is a resistance and freedom fighting movement. And Sunnis who sort of want to "balance the equation" would borrow from the Israelis and their friends to label hezbollah as a terrorist group.

Likewise, the houthis in Yemen are fighting for national power for the community they represent in parliament.

Both groups don't go about bombing people of other faiths in takfiri attacks as Sunni Wahhabi takfiri terror groups like Boko and Isis do in faith based cleansing. In fact in Lebanon hezbollah is allied with the largest Christian bloc in the Lebanese parliament led by a retired Christian army chief.

There is not one example of Shias killing people of othee faiths because of what they believe.
PoliticsRe: Attack On Shia Muslims Continues In Kaduna From “House To House" (Pics, Video) by ShiaMuslim(op): 6:22pm On Oct 15, 2016
Evergreen4:
which one is tijaniyyah again ? Pls educate me
The Sunnis are divided into two extremes:

The Salafist/Wahhabis and the Sufis.

The Sufis have orders. Tijjaniyyah is one. They are Mystics. Sufis are all after worship and mysticism. Salafists or Wahhabis are the extremists who label everyone else as infidels and only they are "true Muslims". They are referred to as takfiris.
PoliticsAttack On Shia Muslims Continues In Kaduna From “House To House" (Pics, Video) by ShiaMuslim(op): 3:21pm On Oct 15, 2016
[WARNING: DISTURBING VIDEO AND IMAGES IN BELOW LINK] Deadly Attack On Shia Muslims Continues In Kaduna From “House To House” [VIDEO]

The attacks by combined teams of government security officials and armed takfiri youth on Shia Muslims have continued into the weekend in Kaduna with dozens being murdered across the state and properties being burned.

The assailants accompanied by police are going from house to house to seek out and kill Shia Muslims and burn their properties according to reports we are receiving.

From Kaduna, an affected minority Muslim Muhammad Ishiaka wailed,

“Today is the worst. They are going house by house in Kaduna destroying our personal houses. I can’t say how many people are dead now, because whoever they meet at the house, they are killing. They are going with the police.”

While the Shia Muslims and the Islamic movement organisation has said it will not retaliate or resort to violence but remains patient, the persecution and repression continues with government-supported takfiri youth picking and killing people with the semblance of Shi’ism anywhere they are seen.
http://newsrescue.com/deadly-attack-shia-muslims-continues-kaduna-house-house-video/#ixzz4NACFYn3f

PoliticsRe: Muslim Shiite Festival. by ShiaMuslim: 2:40pm On Oct 15, 2016
ChimaAdeoye:
[size=18pt]All these useless propaganda against Shiites will fail!

Sunnis everywhere have been the violent brand of Islam known to the world.
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thank you my brother.

before you know it, one ignorant mod will push this thread to the front page to cause a stir and spread misinformation.

this practice of self-inflicted harm or self-flagellation is called in Arabic/Islamic terminology TATBEER OR TATBIR. (disclaimer: the above picture of a man gauging his eyes out is false. tatbeer does not include gauging one's eyes. perhaps that man is from another faith).

we Shia Muslims denounce this ritual. it is less than 1% among us that insist on doing this symbolic ritual when we commemorate the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (as), the third Shia imam and grandson of Prophet Muhammad (s) on the holy day of Ashura in the holy Islamic month of Muharram.

our highest ranking scholars (ayatollahs) have issued countless fatwas (religious decrees) to ask the ignorant and uneducated ones who are overzealous in practicing this ritual to stop it. it is very hard to find any Nigerian Shia doing this ritual because almost all our scholars reject it. many Shia Muslims around the world have stopped and a few still insist on carrying it out on Ashura. they believe that its a symbolic ritual to demonstrate their willingness to die and sacrifice their bodies for Imam Hussein (as), who was betrayed and abandoned to be beheaded along with his family members in Karbala by the army of the fifth Sunni caliph, Yazeed Ibn Muawiya. however our scholars have insisted that self harm is forbidden in Islam and in the Quran.

as usual, the media does not see the good side of the commemoration where Shia show acts of kindness and worship, donate blood to hospitals, give out food and money, etc. good news is no news. the media focuses on this as a form of religious propaganda against all Shia Muslims, as if the overwhelming majority (99%) do not oppose this ritual. this ritual is alien to the commemoration of the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (as) on Ashura. it was copied from other religions, particularly Hinduism and Christianity/Catholicism around the 19th century CE.

in Christianity, Catholics re-enact the "crucifixion" of Jesus. Catholic men crucify themselves. On Easter, Catholics crucify themselves in Latin American countries (particularly Mexico) and in the Philippines to feel the pains and sufferings of Jesus.

on this same Nairaland, there are currently threads on this same topic on the Islam forum opened by both Shia (to denounce the practice) and by Sunnis (for propaganda). i dont know the need why there is such a thread in the political forum. it is aimed to spread religious propaganda hatred.

you can check the threads here:

https://www.nairaland.com/3395202/tatbir-flagellation-disturbing-innovation

https://www.nairaland.com/3406280/2016-ashura-day-shia-slash
Foreign AffairsIraq Violence:Dozens Dead In Baghdad Suicide Attack On Shia by ShiaMuslim(op): 1:56pm On Oct 15, 2016
Iraq violence: Dozens dead in Baghdad suicide attack on Shia

8 minutes ago
From the section Middle East

At least 32 people have died in a suicide attack targeting Shia in Iraq's capital Baghdad, officials say.

More than 60 were injured in the blast, carried out on a tent in a crowded market in a northern district of the city.

So-called Islamic State (IS) claimed responsibility for the attack.

Many Shia pilgrims are taking part in mourning rituals commemorating the killing of the Prophet Mohammed's grandson, Hussein, in the 7th Century.

Reports say a militant detonated a suicide vest in the tent at lunchtime, when it was full of pilgrims.

IS said in a statement, published through the messaging service Telegram, that the attack on Saturday was carried out "in the middle of a gathering" in the Shaab area of Baghdad.

BBC Middle East editor Sebastian Usher says Sunni militants have long used such pilgrimages as targets for attacks causing large scale casualties.

This year, IS revived its bombing campaign in Baghdad killing hundreds of people, in what is seen as a response to the group's loss of much of its territory in Iraq.

In July, a lorry packed with explosives was detonated in central Baghdad's popular shopping district of Karrada in what was the deadliest single bomb attack in Iraq since 2007.

The latest attack comes as Iraqi forces prepare for an offensive in northern Iraq on Mosul, the last IS-held major city in the country.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37667092
IslamRe: 2016 Ashura Day: Shia Slash Themselves With Cutlasses (Disturbing Photos) by ShiaMuslim: 1:56pm On Oct 15, 2016
"Sunni takfiri militants" are bombing the Shia to stop the Shia "cutting themselves" on Ashura. that is the logic BetaThing and co. would give us to explain the above which is an almost daily/weekly occurrence around the world.
IslamRe: 2016 Ashura Day: Shia Slash Themselves With Cutlasses (Disturbing Photos) by ShiaMuslim: 1:54pm On Oct 15, 2016
Iraq violence: Dozens dead in Baghdad suicide attack on Shia

8 minutes ago
From the section Middle East

At least 32 people have died in a suicide attack targeting Shia in Iraq's capital Baghdad, officials say.

More than 60 were injured in the blast, carried out on a tent in a crowded market in a northern district of the city.

So-called Islamic State (IS) claimed responsibility for the attack.

Many Shia pilgrims are taking part in mourning rituals commemorating the killing of the Prophet Mohammed's grandson, Hussein, in the 7th Century.

Reports say a militant detonated a suicide vest in the tent at lunchtime, when it was full of pilgrims.

IS said in a statement, published through the messaging service Telegram, that the attack on Saturday was carried out "in the middle of a gathering" in the Shaab area of Baghdad.

BBC Middle East editor Sebastian Usher says Sunni militants have long used such pilgrimages as targets for attacks causing large scale casualties.

This year, IS revived its bombing campaign in Baghdad killing hundreds of people, in what is seen as a response to the group's loss of much of its territory in Iraq.

In July, a lorry packed with explosives was detonated in central Baghdad's popular shopping district of Karrada in what was the deadliest single bomb attack in Iraq since 2007.

The latest attack comes as Iraqi forces prepare for an offensive in northern Iraq on Mosul, the last IS-held major city in the country.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37667092
IslamRe: 2016 Ashura Day: Shia Slash Themselves With Cutlasses (Disturbing Photos) by ShiaMuslim: 10:34am On Oct 15, 2016
BetaThings:
Boko haram, Isis etc are denounced by Sunnis
Even Boko Haram is kiling sunnis or are they killing sunnis because they are supporting them

Your terror groups, predominantly Hezbollah receive instruction and support from the same source as all of you twelver Shias ie from Ayatollah Khamenei himself. We have videos

Major difference

And yes, Al Qaeda ENJOYED THE SUPPORT OF Shias

Your duplicity is unrivalled
if stupidity comes with accolades, you would have grown many horns on your head and tails from your a$$. tongue

your stupidity is unrivaled. the same $hit every time to vindicate Sunni terrorism,and particular its wahhabi offshoot by falsely implicating others or presenting propaganda, . the ideas and beliefs you have are only found in your imagination. al-qaeda "enjoyed the support of shias". that is fantastic lie. a first on nairaland from a re.tard like you. yet, alqaeda and its wahhabi appendages that keep multiplying continue to target and massacre Shia to your delight.

you claim Sunnis denounce boko haram, but you cheer when Shia are killed right here in Nigeria. that is because the Shia are minority and the United States, your slave masters are not Shia. so you are not scared to support terror against Shia. if boko haram was a Sunni group only targeting Shia, you will praise them. your condemnation of boko haram is not because you do not share their hatred and killing genes. it is because of who the targets are. the targets are Christians and later on mainly Sunnis oposed to their doctrines of killings, so boko saw them as heretics; and much later they targeted Shia. your attitude to terror is hypocrisy. i do not know which kind of a filthy heart you have. how are you able to sleep at night with such confusion and spiritual bondage?

the challenge you were given for years and counting is still waiting for an answer from you stupid Wahhabi bigot:

ShiaMuslim:
foolishness with a loud mouth does not make you sound smart. you are just stupid. the challenge given to you from years still stands.

PLEASE PRESENT JUST ONE, ONLY, NEWS SOURCE FROM MAINSTREAM MEDIA, WHERE IT WAS REPORTED THAT A SHIA USED SUICIDE BOMBING TO KILL SUNNIS OR CHRISTIANS IN FAITH-BASED KILLING (TAKFIRI KILLING). JUST ONE! YOU WILL NOT FIND ONE!!!

the instance you are referring to is not "suicide bombing". and "suicide bombing" HAS NEVER BEEN used by Shia to bomb others from other faith in Takfiri or faith-based killings. can you deny that?

WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS PUBLICIZED: the Shia of Lebanon used "martyrdom operation" to target superior military target occupying their land through force. not to attack mosques, and churches to kill others or innocent people or non-combantants for their difference in faith as WAHHABISM promotes. targeting superior military occupation target through "martyrdom operation" is also used by Palestinian Sunnis against superior Israeli occupation forces occupying their land to inflict maximum damage on legitimate military enemy target. this means has been backed even by Sunni scholars like Sheikh Ahmad Yaseen who was assassinated by Israel. again, fighting occupiers of your land is way DIFFERENT from indiscriminately targeting others on faith-based killings (Takifir killings) which is promoted by the Wahhabi hatred and extremist terror ideology. RESISTANCE TO OCCUPATION is NOT TERRORISM even if Israel calls it terrorism. it is human right for every people under occupation to fight for their liberation using whatever means. even the US constitution gives right to the people to carry arms to fight for their freedom. this has nothing to do with Iran or Shia exclusively. it is not the means used that matters, but the target and purpose. but obviously, sectarianism has eaten into your skull.

that is the only point i will clarify so you do not end up with your sectarian illogical arguments. otherwise, you will fail to realize that only WAHHABISM teaches faith-based killings, a belief totally ALIEN TO ISLAM, and Muslims, be they Shia or mainstream Sunni.
IslamRe: 2016 Ashura Day: Shia Slash Themselves With Cutlasses (Disturbing Photos) by ShiaMuslim: 10:27am On Oct 15, 2016
MrOlai:
Empiree is a full-fledged Sufi! Sufis and Shias have lots of evils in common! That's why Empiree defends Albaqir and other deviants here.

Imagine this from one of their Sheiks:

According to reports, Sheik Ibrahim Niyas in one of his books said he has a special cloth that has 70,000 pockets. In each pocket, there are 70,000 sub-pockets. In each sub-pocket again, there are 70,000 sub-pockets, on and on like that! He said that on the Day of Judgement, he will carry 70,000 persons who believe in him in each of the sub-pockets in 70,000 times and fly them into paradise! Subhanallah! Is this Islam? May Allah(SWT) forgive and have mercy on him.

Is this Islam? When the Prophet Himself(SAW) told His daughter(R.A) that he has no power to help her on the Day of Judgment?
na your papa be deviant. because if he had trained you well, you will have a little respect for others. you are displaying his immoral ways here he imparted to you.
IslamRe: 2016 Ashura Day: Shia Slash Themselves With Cutlasses (Disturbing Photos) by ShiaMuslim: 10:24am On Oct 15, 2016
MrOlai:
Subhanallah!

Albaqir! Is this true? huh huh huh
Yes, it is very true!

A visit to Karbala is worth 1000 hajj!

but guess what? you have hearts that are padlocked (based on the description of the Holy Quran, and ears you can't hear with and eyes you do not see with).

A visit to Karbala is worth 1000 hajj, not the obligatory once a lifetime/first time hajj. the obligatory first time or once a lifetime hajj (to Makkah) which is wajib/obligatory/mandatory can be said to be worth a 1000 visit to Karbala. that is what we believe.

you guys can continue fooling yourselves with deceptive videos and lies to make your hearts dance the dance of jahiliyyah.
PoliticsRe: Human Rights Watch Condemns Attack On Nigerian Shiites by ShiaMuslim(op): 5:49pm On Oct 14, 2016
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