Ologbo147: Dont argue with Dsimmer, he is the same person as Simbrixton, I caught him on a single thread where he lied to be both paternally and maternally from Itsekiri, a screenshot below
His method now is to use another moniker to quote you, so they would think it’s a popular opinion, you can observe the writing patterns
Usenokpevbo: These oral history that Is not backed by reality is not enough. Ibillo speak dialect of okpamheri as a first language. Okpamheri is effectively an Edo group just like Urhobo, Esan etcThat is a stronger testament to history than oral history that can change anytime because it is not written down. Deadlytruth have schooled you guys on this issue time and time again. It seems like your brain is too dense to accept or you are too fixated on what you want to believe.
I can say I came from Israel or Somalia , what proof do I have? That is why there is archeology and linguistics to fact-check oral history that was not written down.
Even on one of deadlytruth post, I read where he said a big professor attributed Igarra to Igala because of the similarities in name but later made a change to it when he discovered the language is more akin to Ebira and the history of sister Igarra tribe traces to Kwararafa .
The funny thing is that you have been defeated tirelessly by dealytruth on this matter, but go on to create a thread for people who seem not to be so familiar with prevalent written text in this regard and also the language family of these groups.
Usen speak a Yoruboid first language , she is Yoruboid, okay , Ibillo speak an Edoid first language, she came from yorubaland. How ogbeni? First language is the traditional language of the people. Oral history is and has never been enough. We can’t take the tales of two men whose lineage might actually be from yorubaland. They want to make their history the history of Ibillo, it is not possible. That is why archeology and linguistics is there to support it. If the factchecking of these oral history by linguistics does not come back positive, it is most certainly not true. Babasolution
Go and read “Cognates tell the prehistory of Okpamheri by Demola Lewis”
deadlytruth is not from ibilo
That someone bearing "Ayo" is not of yoruba ancestry is becoming laughable
babasolution: The thread never said they are Yoruba,ibilos cannot speak Yoruba,they don't worship Yoruba gods,they don't practice Yoruba culture, how are they Yorubas?
A very successful lawyer professor Ayo Ajomo and Barrister fred Agbaje have already said their ancestry is yoruba
This emotion laden rants on nairaland is meant to do what exactly ?
babasolution: Were did it state they are Yoruba,I have written on this platform that the IFE origin myth is a myth and nothing else,there's no proof of it,
babasolution: Were did it state they are Yoruba,I have written on this platform that the IFE origin myth is a myth and nothing else,there's no proof of it,
babasolution: Only ikakumo is Yoruba,ibilo, ugboshi-sale,ikiran-ile are not Yoruba, ugbo- oshi,means OSI forest, it was settled by people from OSI,ikiran-ile had an original non Yoruba name,have forgotten it now,ibilos origin is unknown
there is literally a thread on nairaland written by someone from ibilo
Not only that an ibilo high society personal Ajayi wrote a book on their history
It is common place for edos today to change history to suit their tribal instinct
babasolution: How many times will I explain that the Yoruba names of Akoko-edo are a recent post colonial feature, they aren't traditional Akoko-edo names, it all started during the colonial era
ikakumo ibilo ugboshi ikiran ile are clear cut yorubas
Olu317: Ilajẹ cannot say such in Iléifẹ that odùduwa was a woman.
The fabrication of this anomalies was caused by Samuel Ajayi Crowther and such has been flinged away.
Kindly visit Iléifẹ to ask from Ọbáluru who is superior to Olúigbó hierarchically .And he is the overall king of Orà nfẹ descendants to tell you the real story about Olúigbó ancestors.
Infact, Obáluru represent Ọrà nfẹ dynasty which Olúigbó is a son under him. Ọrà nfẹ was worshipped or venerated few months ago and remained as the oldest deity in Yoruba land of Iléifẹ.
Adé Arẹ belonged to Odùduwa Ṣẹ̀ẹṣẹ̀'fun belong to Obátàlà
Adé Arẹ is the oldest crown in Yorubaland and worn by Olofin Odùduwa , who was a man with millions of descendants across the world.
Ado odo is not even older than Monuments found in Ekiti to even compare with Iléifẹ is funy. Fact is fact without sentiments.
Respect
Olugbo is qualified to speak on behalf of the house of OBALARA/OBALURU I.E OBALUFON AND ORANFE HOUSE
Olu317: Are you a seer to know what I studied? . Shook head on my post? Wait for it. In as much as you can't understand the richness of the oriki from critical analysis beyond the taught history at school and transferred oral account, then I shall let it lie. Little do you know oriki has deeper meaning beyond praises because there were circumstance that warrants some part in that panegyric being confrontational to opponents etc in connection to some ancestors in the ancient time. If your part has not crossed such ,endeavor to do reseserchwork on such.
Funy enough, Ooni IFE visited Éfon Alaaye, 2018, when the town launched a book about her history
You can visit this blog below to read through,the history and oriki of Éfon Alaaye. I couldn't lay my hand on I was searching out for on my archive.
Ologbo147: who are you really? Those of you whose lifestyle is like that would always think of others as doing the same thing. Who you be bros?😂 Abi your pa na transgender
this ozuo dey reaaly cry
am not the reason your GOD ( YOUR OBA IS GAY) NA WHEN UNA SEE ITSEKIRI UNA DEY FORM ACTION GET OFF MY MENTION OZUO
Ologbo147: Today you are from Okere, next day you are from Ilara qtrs, Ile-Ife
Simbrixton Dsimmer Doptical Olu Lawani Lexy2014 Etc. one can only pick one or two actual humans from these six monikers, the same low iq resonates across
Olu317: I have not seen Olufon sword. But ordinarily, oberin, Oje or Ada etc may be the one being carried by him.
The only sword that differs is Agada. Others swords can be carried by any prince, if we consider the fact a female child of Oduduwa orObaluru can be married to Ifa families (Orunmila), thus such son from the marriage may carry Ogbo, Ida or any other sword which depends on his future aspirations.
Olufon is Ora cum Obatala so, I do not know the olufon Orolu sword that he carried but I will ask elders and give you the name soon
Finally, I understand you and know how people acts with anger because I was once attacked on this platform by a distant family member of mine who once called me a son of probable Eredumi descent (my patrilineal ancestor Oranmiyan's sword bearer) until he stopped much later.
No pity from my side The insecurity is synonymous with Apc and tinubu
A friend of mine told me before the election that if tinubu should even get up to 10k votes knowing fully well that tinubu brought upon us Buhari's calamitous administration and to make it worse he was part of Buhari's administration then it means we the masses are tribalistic, fake, hypocrites and wicked
if edo doesnt vote Olumide Akpata it shows the high level of tribalism
pascal558: it never involved d ibos,but knw ur brodas!!some are already talking of joining the ijaws if it bcums a full blown war,and if u read my comment wel u wil knw that the ibos are gradually turning against fellow southerners,they started with afonjas!
Evboesi: my brother from the minute tribe, you can’t just believe nonsense, there has to be historical antecedents to it, Gelegele, Siluko, Ekehuan are Edo villages historically, My brother if you start to dae give land to anybody wey come settle for your place wey he many, my brother your land go finish o. The Benin massacre by Alex masxwell Boisragon page 72 confirm the fact that even as close as 1897, Gele Gele was still considered a Bini village, the Europeans knowing solidly the difference between Ijaws and Bini. Isiluko on the other hand can only be interpreted by the Binis, the same with Ekehuan. Even Ologbo is a Bini community and still has large number of Binis even till date. Ajamimogha is a small place and it is exclusively itsekiri, she can go
Like i said, those Binis did not take their land with them, many left the land for the Yorubas, they are free to migrate back to their place and leave our land.
There is no Urhobo community in Edo state, Ijaws on the other hand are free to leave with their communities that were not founded by the Binis.
Those eight “villages” are quarters of one community called Igbanke. Igbanke is the third largest community in that local government subordinate to Urhonigbe and Oza~Aibiokunla. Igbanke being in Edo state is Ogbemudia’s handiwork. I support their partitioning to Delta state if they wholeheartedly support it.
I also would wish for the partitioning of Oza~nogogo, Alilehan, Alisor to Edo state. They speak a dialect of Edo or the Bini language called Oza.
Evboesi: nor be me talk am o, the first one from a Bini dictionary in 1937
The second was bradbury’s work in the 50s
You can hear from Areafada’s conversation above and deep wisdom, he is certainly a man in his mid fifties and above. Determination of state and nationhood changed a lot of things. The pulling out of the Oba of Benin from the western region also led to many returns my friend from the minute tribe
I mean they are still there, but not as much as they used to be, Egharevba grew up in eastern Yoruba land.
it is interesting you say this because i fully believe Ologbo and other itsekiri communities like Ajamimogba ekenhuan to name a few should be part of delta state
Obviously the ijaw and urhobo communities can also not be discounted and obviously recently the igbos visited the 8 villages in orhionwon
Culture › Re: Akoko-edo Are NOT YORUBA by Simbrixton(m): 4:10am On Apr 07, 2024
, Ibillo speak an Edoid first language, she came from yorubaland. How ogbeni? First language is the traditional language of the people. Oral history is and has never been enough. We can’t take the tales of two men whose lineage might actually be from yorubaland. They want to make their history the history of Ibillo, it is not possible. That is why archeology and linguistics is there to support it. If the factchecking of these oral history by linguistics does not come back positive, it is most certainly not true. Babasolution
. Shook head on my post? 
