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TAO11:
For a Bini man to give up falsehood, he must not only be disgraced; he must be terribly disgraced publicly without an atom of mercy.

In other words, both your claim and your video are false and have been debunked by myself time and time again using classical writings:

(1) There is no evidence for your falsehood that only Oyo people are Yorubas. A popular but false claim without any evidence.

(2) Your video claims that the name “Yoruba” was birthed for a group in the 1800s.

This claim is also debunked by classical writings from the early 1600s.

(3) The Evidence:
The embedded manuscript below (of Ahmad Baba) lists the name “Yoruba” (in the year 1615) among the names of other West African ethnic groups.

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Below is an expert translation of the relevant section of this manuscript.

This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco

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(4) We know this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because Baba penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below:

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The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”.

When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD

The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion.

(5) In sum, your falsehood turns out to be a pain borne out of your frustration of being a minority.

Yes, the minority complex syndrome is a real thing. But you have a lifetime to deal with that.

Cheers!

Cc: Simbrixton, Sangresan

nice

sangresan:
Na attention seeker...He even claimed na only 5 Americans have ever won the Field Medal.

na bini miscreant him sense dan lost

Truthshots2:
The only Yoruba people are the people of oyo Kingdom, Itsikeri are known to be from Benin.

you mean the itsekiris in ibadan currently campaigning for oodua republic bros abeg go rest

GODBLESSBUHARI:
Tell all those Afonja people trying their best to desperately cling to the Bini's and the Deltans!!n
You know your history!

yorubas and itsekiris are one actually our language na dsame nothing connect bini and itsekiri we no be dsame

Wilespo:
....lol, bros nobody dey drag relevance with u...chop all the relevance for the world ......na u win...just read the comment that made me give this response and maybe u will realize that this rubbish u posted is not called for and is most definitely NOT relevant....enjoy the rest of ur day bro!

no fight at all we no be dsame and would never be dsame

Wilespo:
........nau make Benin kingdom part of Yoruba Kingdom ? say one tribe break commot from another mean say one na part of the other ? oga read ur history well.....Yoruba kingdom and Benin kingdom are 2 different kingdoms ruled by 2 different kings who have mutual respect for each other .......Benin is NOT and will NEVER BE a yoruba kingdom.....

yoruba and bini are never dsame you binis should stop mentioning us to feel relevant

KingOKON:
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Omo you go see how 1979 go continue while you and your Olu go de siddon look

hahahaha binis are in pains

KingOKON:
Men you can go get your own edict or take paraga and die off

useless bini man hahaha u mumu no be small so 1979 na 100s of years

KingOKON:
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So when you started with the abusive words you never thought in that line, you are stupid to the core
If you think by huffing and puffing up your candidate against the lay down tradition you are nothing but a village tout
If you can't follow the laid down practice of hundred years but to come here and play politics, you are as stupid as anything

so edict of 1979 is 100s of years no wonder nigeria is a terrible country useless bini man

KingOKON:
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So when you started with the abusive words you never thought in that line, you are stupid to the core
If you think by huffing and puffing up your candidate against the lay down tradition you are nothing but a village tout
If you can't follow the laid down practice of hundred years but to come here and play politics, you are as stupid as anything

1979 is laid down practice i laugh in spanish u dan smoke kwale weed e clear sha Tsola is already the next olu

KingOKON:
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You stupid pass fowl...what is the origin of Prince Phillip you this illiterate?

is origin doesnt matter what matters is his dedication to his people reason why england waged a war with germany that u use abusive word doesnt make ur statement fact it just exposes your delusion and ignorant mind

KingOKON:
So Prince Phillip that just died and who was a Greek Prince was English... You be complete slowpoke you dont know jack and you are here making noise like a toad

If you don't know anything allow the custodian to continue or do it legally...

na mumu u be na better opio make e go declare for greece in a political issue na or make greece dey claim am make we see as english people go topple them you think the english support hegemonic behaviours over them? this one na mumu

KingOKON:
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Now I know say you be proper MUMU, complete local breed
So you don't why kings de fight wars in Europe and why, royal families de marry

Omo lizard get sense pass you

na you dey on ego trip pass and society has moved on nobody cares about the garbage wey una dey yarn let the queen call herself german now maybe dem no go abolish the monarchy you bini people are just classless and intrusive

KingOKON:
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Now I know say you be proper MUMU, complete local breed
So you don't why kings de fight wars in Europe and why, royal families de marry

Omo lizard get sense pass you

english royals are english very simple

Truthshots2:
Olu ascension is governed by laws, those laws must be followed, murderers and terrorists won't impose their will on society.

yawns

Daum:
My guy nobody like crisis
Dem no day pray for am. You don't live in Ologbo. Ologbo is 30 minutes from Benin and about 2 hours to warri.

If e start now, you will be typing from your safe house in Warri and the poor itsekiris in Ologbo will run to Oghara and Ajagbodudu for safety.

Shun violence

you guys should stay out of itsekiri issues it is simple

Truthshots2:
As I said, the guy is a criminal whom is supporting criminality while pretending he is fighting for justice.

warri is not bini focus on ur bini d issue is simple

BluDesk:
Bookmarked for the law authorities to take action on. This is the confession that the person behind this moniker is a cold blooded murderer that recently killed four persons according to his own statement

why would i commit murder bini people should rest jare and stop making noise online

KingOKON:
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You think the ruling house in Onitsha have no Benin roots or Igala roots?

Where a people have a record of history of their origin, science is needless.
It is a pity that we have to go scientific to prove who we are all because of politics

make una go influence onitsa na

Truthshots2:
Your story is irrelevant, there is a law, it must be followed.

we ready 4 una for ologbo 2.0 na only 4 people we fall abi we go still fall more lool

Truthshots2:
Well I support the law and you support illegality, so why should you waste your time with those who support the law like me.

before 1979 olus married outside no stress urself i dan buy my wrapper already sha

Truthshots2:
I guess you are the voice of the people or just a guy paraphrasing as usual.

yawns

i no dey waste my time with ur type

Truthshots2:
The Ascension to Olu throne is governed by laws. Those laws must be followed. Illegality is illegality and would be destroyed either by the courts either by the state government.

story, the voice of the people is the voice of God tsola is the next Olu

KingOKON:
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Change the order and there will be need for Benin/ Yoruba origin talk, no true English man has been king for hundreds of years now
Elizabeth is German in origin

otu yet germany and england fought a bitter war dese 1 na mumu o

Truthshots2:
actually he is not legally designated.

maybe una go install una own olu for ikpoba hill sha

BluDesk:
The king studied law. Why didn't he challenge this edict for 37 years before his death to secure the stool for his son?

before 1979 Ogiame's married women from different ethnic groups infact Olu Dom Domingoes was half portuguese

nisai:
Let's wait till they (the royal household) do that then. The Yoruba respect decision and not landgrabbers.

Per your second paragraph, check the link below.

https://www.independent.ng/olu-of-warri-stool-why-prince-tsola-emiko-was-disqualified/

Tsola is omoba already the matter dan die already no need to stress una self

KingOKON:
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I am not leaning on any side, if you go down to Eko( Lagos) you will see places with Benin ancestry in names.

The only thing we can use ordinarily in tracing our origin in Africa is language and the cultures we practice.

The heritage of the ruling family need not be same with their subjects Illorin in Kwara state is a good example

wetin dese ur talk mean sef bini people dan come

nisai:
Are you an Itshekiri?

i am maternally itsekiri please it is spelt itsekiri not itshekiri

sangresan:
Who is your history teacher?

I will like to know.

If you want to learn more about precolonial Nigerian history, join this Facebook group: Nigeria Nostalgia Project.

that guy na just shameless bigot nothing upstairs no class or brains whatsoever

KingOKON:
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I have followed everything well, all the arguments here are Ego tripping, political inclined non is well detailed researched people based

Everything is seen from the top or the leaders perspective

the 1979 edict has nothing to do with bini i can tell you authoritatively 98 percent itsekiris want Tsola to be the next Olu

KingOKON:
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Which may be true but then the royal households may claim otherwise and they have their followers too.
The basics here is what is the established form of kingship and are they willing to change the old order

* There are places in Nigeria where affinity is to the mother side, Ogoni is one*

i was waiting to see what side you would lean to