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[/b] "Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. [b]The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas." - Al-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur'an, p. 351

Muslims will faint after each sex. Wake up again to sex and faint again. This is what will happen in Jannah? Sex and fainting with eternal erection?

Guys how will you feel to have constant erection for a week only? Let alone forever.

Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of God said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' " - Sunan Ibn Majah, Zuhd (Book of Abstinence) 39

blowjohn:
Feminization.....its getting very rampant

To me, they all look like gays. I am confused at this point. I will never get shocked if I hear any stories of that sort. They claim to be after people's girlfriends. I do not see a sensible girl who will get wet by staring at a picture like this. Lest she is a lesbian

What award is there for it?
Your mates would be hustling to make number ones and this would be your goal? You would go into oblivion too soon and the fickle fans will forget you sooner without restraint.

SenatePresdo:
If I be Celeb, na only people girlfriends I go dey bang, Simps must get sense

We are losing alpha males in the music industry. Why are all these artists developing androgynous nature? They pose like gays, smize like females, grow, dye and style their hair like my nieces, strip like women etc. Their bodies are not even muscular anymore. Dbanj seems to be the last manly artist (though not macho). Everyone else is soft(feminine) and seem to make more music in the salon than in the studio. Psquare, a little bit. But, just saying

Quran 33:4-5:
Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior. And He has not made your wives whom you declare unlawful your mothers. And he has not made your adopted sons your [true] sons. That is [merely] your saying by your mouths, but Allah says the truth, and He guides to the [right] way. Call them by [the names of] their fathers; it is more just in the sight of Allah . But if you do not know their fathers – then they are [still] your brothers in religion and those entrusted to you. And there is no blame upon you for that in which you have erred but [only for] what your hearts intended. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful .

This verse abolished the mahram relationship between Salim and his adoptive mother. So whenever Salim would visit his adoptive parents, his adoptive dad would get upset because a non-mahram man was visiting his wife. Muhammad then instructed Sahla to breastfeed Salim to recreate the mahram relationship.

hahaha. Even a grown man can get to enjoy another woman's breast before in front of her husband. hahaha

YHWH cares for black people so much. He gave us 2 tribes in Israel. He allowed thousands of Egyptians to enjoy the promised land. Solomon married a black woman. That is the first wife. A love of his youth and he built a magnificent house for her. he was also in love with another.

In Islam, racism is the bedrock from the inception of islam. The originator of racism against a particular RACE is Mohammed. He is the one of influence to make a legal utterance and written code for prejudice.

How many breasts of married woman have you suckled?

The caliphates bought and sold blacks. No other nation sold a particular race, black.

LegalWolf:
On this last one, I am willing to take you up on it with every fibre of my being. every single thing about Christianity is absurd. Like every single thing. From yhwh to unholy ghost to the doctrine of trinity to the bible itself to factual and archaeological blunders. The entire bible is one incoherent piece of shite!

And the audacity of you talking that Allah does not care about black man. It is your dumb yhwh that does not give a shite about your black ass. He is a god of Israel first and foremost and not of any other tribe. And the list of tribes and times that it is said that ywhw is the god of israel and no other is countless in the bible. Same also as the number of time he fought for israel against other tribes. So how on earth would such a motherfucker yhwh give a f0ck about your black ass? Or do you want me to start listing the wars yhwh fought on behalf of israel against other tribes?

- In the best religion on earth, racism is unknown. What defines brotherhood is your commitment to Allah and no other. During the time of the prophet, the muadhin was a black Ethiopian. In Muslim countries even in as far as South East Asia (Indian sub-continent), black muslims held important admistrative and military posts.

So whats your rambling. And again, I suspect you are are not a lawyer at worst and a charge and bail at best. Is this how you define issues in your briefs (if you are litigation lawyer)? Just throwing points up and down and cannot delineate issues. IF you want us to talk about racism in Islam and Christianity, let's do it so I bring all the chapters of the Bible used to justify slavery during the abolitionist movement and you show me what Islam says about slavery. If it is other point, let's discuss it not you quoting from blogs and jumbing from one point to another like an headless chicken

antichrist and legalwolf hahaha you are seeing wonders in islam. you cannot hide now. More loading hahahaha.

When I told you that without violence it is nor possible to defend islam, you thought that I was joking.

Do not run.

TenQ:
A tame sheep ate part of the Qur'an and yet their Qur'an is perfectly preserved.

Abdullah bin 'Umar said: let no one say that he has the whole Qur'an (because several passages are missing) and still yet their Qur'an is perfectly preserved.

Their Quranic manuscripts either written in part or in full was burnt because of errors and still yet their Qur'an is perfectly preserved.


You can see how they reason!?

This is from Ibn Majah 1944 and Musnad Ahmad 26359
Narrated Aisha: When the verse of stoning and verse of suckling an adult ten times descended, they were written on a piece of paper and kept under my pillow. Following the demise of Prophet Muhammad a tame sheep ate the piece of paper whilst we were mourning

An adult male visitor can also suckle the breast of a female host hahahaha

Sahih-Muslim 1453e:

Zainab daughter of Abu Salama reported: I heard Umm Salama, the wife of Allah’s Apostle, saying to ‘A’isha: By Allah, I do not like to be seen by a young boy who has passed the period of fosterage, whereupon she (‘A’isha) said: Why is it so? Sahla daughter of Suhail came to Allah’s Messenger and said: Allah’s Messenger, I swear by Allah that I see in the face of Abu Hudhaifa (the signs of disgust) on account of entering of Salim (in the house), whereupon Allah’s Messenger said Suckle him. She (Sahla bint Suhail) said: He has a beard. But he (again) said: Suckle him, and it would remove what is there (expression of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa. She said: (I did that) and, by Allah, I did not see (any sign of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa.

Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 6982:
The angel came to him (i.e. Muhammad) in it (i.e. Cave of Hira) and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read." (The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous...up to..... ..that which he knew not." (96.15) Then Allah's Messenger returned with the Inspiration, his neck muscles twitching with terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" … Khadija then accompanied him to (her cousin) Waraqa bin Naufal , who during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the Arabic writing and used to write of the Gospels in Arabic as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to him, "O my cousin! Listen to the story of your nephew." Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" The Prophet described whatever he had seen. Waraqa said, "This is the same Namus (i.e., Gabriel, the Angel who keeps the secrets) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Allah's Messenger asked, "Will they turn me out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said: "Never did a man come with something similar to what you have brought but was treated with hostility. If I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Messenger in truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before.

Did you notice that Even before Mohammed allah directed the writing of the GOSPEL(the accounts regarding Jesus life and teachings) or the new testament. This is the same book that Muslims today claim to have been corrupted.

Did you notice how even under the oath/or influence of allah, an illiterate cannot receive a miracle as simple as reading skill. While in the Bible we read of powerful works of the holy spirit that people could speak in DIFFERENT tongues. Even a horse was made to speak. Nevertheless, even the power of allah CANNOT make mohammed read.

I have never imagine an angel of God pressing and choking a prophet of God till he couldn't bear it anymore. Just because a man cannot read! Would you allow your kids to attend such a school in which the teachers press and choke them? Even Muslims today will pull their kids off of such a school.

We could find the gospel in syriac, Amenian, Hebrew, Latin etc. Only in Arabic is it missing of all medieval languages. Which means that even the copied and translated gospel that allah directed them to write were all burned. They have no reverence for allah. They cannot produce an ancient copy of the gospel in the archives from Arabia to Egypt and to Syria.

Muhammad Asad
and then We create out of the drop of sperm a germ-cell, and then We create out of the germ-cell an embryonic lump, and then We create within the embryonic lump bones, and then We clothe the bones with flesh - and then We bring [all] this into being as a new creation: hallowed, therefore, is God, the best of artisans.

The Clear Quran, Dr. Mustafa Khattab
then We developed the drop into a clinging clot ˹of blood˺, then developed the clot into a lump ˹of flesh˺, then developed the lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, then We brought it into being as a new creation. So Blessed is Allah, the Best of Creators.

Safi Kaskas
and then We transformed the fertilized ovum into a clinging leach, and the leach into a chewed morsel, and [from] the chewed morsel, We created bones, and We covered the bones with flesh, and then we structured him into yet another creation. Blessed is God, the best of creators.


How many creators are there in islam? Do we see why allah needed the ‘WE’ so badly?

Muhammad asad compared allah to artisans. cheesy

Even right in the quran, the proof of many creators exists

https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:193
Why is allah CARRIED by 8 mountain goats? Doesn’t he have powers to levitate or walk by himself?

Why is allah so light in weight? 8 mountain goats?

Surah 69:17 And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them. And the angels will be on the sides thereof, and eight will uphold the Throne of thy Lord that day, above them.

Why can’t allah move without a help?
Why can’t he position without the help of goats or angels? Is he/are they crippled?
Before the goats and angels were created, who carried allah?

So if the angels rebelled, will allah crumble like Naira?

You are the ones disgracing Christians with your fakeries. All these evil and juju stunts you put up in the name of God is bad. Something that didn't really happen. Lies from the belly of Lucifer.

Stop this bro. This is 2022. No one is buying that poopie.

How can you trust such a person?

iamoyindamola:
They don't even look alike

I thought that I need to see an optician

dawnomike:
Respect other people's religion and beliefs... Even if it does not make sense to you.
This above, is the beginning of peace in the world!!!

Oh, I thought islam was the peace.

Just as other religions are respected in all Islamic states. Huh?

VeryWickedMan:
Thought it was Jacob who won WWE heavyweight champion in Survivor Series 1098BC.

hahaha WWE and WBF are different championships

AntiChristian:
Abeg where are the lies that i lied?

Revelation 21:8
But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

You and your colleague are the liars!

Did mohammed drop on his knees for a penis or not?

TenQ:
There are 4 types of Muslims clerics and apologists when they discover a painful truth against Mohammed and Islam.
1. Those who would withdraw into their shells. They will avoid damaging arguments at all cost (like compton11 and
haekymbahd). They choose their fights very carefully
2. Those who would claim "Qur'an Only" as the hadiths and Tafsirs are terrible jokes. Unfortunately, even the Qur'an alone discredits every foundation of Islam.
3. Those who would acknowledge all the atrocities and blunders and stand by them with no apology (like LegalWolf)!
Assertion: Mohammed had sex with an 8 year old girl
Response: So what if he had sex with a 5 year old girl
4. Those who would do everything to twist what the Qur'an and Hadiths say to sound logical, sensible and correct. (eg. Antichristian). They can tell lies for Africa even when the truth is glaring!

Bro, what you are doing is saving lives. Truth sets free. Do no underestimate the power of knowledge.

You are serving them the truth that they have been denied from birth. No more dot for dot, letter for letter.

They claimed that sheep ate the quran. Ask them how sure they are of the completion of the quran when the fact holds that sheep ate a portion of it.

Did Mohammed teach that EVERYTHING about Christians is absurd?

The book is absurd?

LegalWolf:
On this last one, I am willing to take you up on it with every fibre of my being. every single thing about Christianity is absurd. Like every single thing. From yhwh to unholy ghost to the doctrine of trinity to the bible itself to factual and archaeological blunders. The entire bible is one incoherent piece of shite!

And the audacity of you talking that Allah does not care about black man. It is your dumb yhwh that does not give a shite about your black ass. He is a god of Israel first and foremost and not of any other tribe. And the list of tribes and times that it is said that ywhw is the god of israel and no other is countless in the bible. Same also as the number of time he fought for israel against other tribes. So how on earth would such a motherfucker yhwh give a f0ck about your black ass? Or do you want me to start listing the wars yhwh fought on behalf of israel against other tribes?

- In the best religion on earth, racism is unknown. What defines brotherhood is your commitment to Allah and no other. During the time of the prophet, the muadhin was a black Ethiopian. In Muslim countries even in as far as South East Asia (Indian sub-continent), black muslims held important admistrative and military posts.

So whats your rambling. And again, I suspect you are are not a lawyer at worst and a charge and bail at best. Is this how you define issues in your briefs (if you are litigation lawyer)? Just throwing points up and down and cannot delineate issues. IF you want us to talk about racism in Islam and Christianity, let's do it so I bring all the chapters of the Bible used to justify slavery during the abolitionist movement and you show me what Islam says about slavery. If it is other point, let's discuss it not you quoting from blogs and jumbing from one point to another like an headless chicken

TenQ:
I'm perfectly in agreement with you.

Islam and Mohammed are the second major antichrist and the most damaging till today. It promotes the Arabian chief idol to the status of the God of the Jews and Christians while at the same time attempting to force them either to become slaves, die or become Muslims.

As deceptive as satan is, he sometimes tell them the truth: as ALL Muslims will enter into Hell Fire. It is a guarantee for Muslims.

Most Muslims are in shock when I show them that Allah has two hands: too much mindless chanting of La illah illa la has blocked their mind and heart.

We pray for them as we also force them to see the truth Islam is hiding from them.

Fact.

You know LegalWolf swore that there was no Jubril in that verse while AntiChristian argued that Jubril is in the verse blowing into a woman's vagina.

So, both of them have been deceived by their clerics. They both rely on these guys from the islamic umma to direct them and so far they have failed them. I pity them but they just can't see the light yet.

LegalWolf is more about dragging Hellenists and converting them to Christians to prove a point rather than focusing on the noble quran right in front of him.

I find it disconcerting that a flip-flop lawyer like LegalWolf sees no problem with a senior citizen sucking the tongue and penis of a prepubescent. Is his law degree wrapped in suya pack?

Why does sex and blood have to surround a single person?

They still can't tell us where the two seas met.

Hold them on the two-eyed allah.

They do not know if allah had a shape.

Who are allahs co creatorS?

Push them hard. They constantly report me and have me banned every now and them. They control the media.

Will LegalWolf agree to leave his prepubescent kid with a man that exudes the behaviour of mohammed?

LegalWolf, why are blacks from the left shoulders and why will they end up in hell.

LegalWolf:
This is getting interesting and taking a turn I did not anticipate. But still, an interesting at that. I have gotten a bit hold of certain arguments of yours and I will really love to set the records straight. I have read all your comments and I will start by answering this:

- first off, I do not know you were banned. I assumed because I have been quoting you and I was not getting a response. So check my statement again, I said 'unless you have a week ban.....". If you are a lawyer, then attention to details should be a key skill of yours and I wonder the kind of clients you have if you cannot even understand just plain English.

- Now you are being clever by half. You started with reconquista but cleverly ommitted the Northern crusades sanctioned BY THE POPE ON RELIGIOUS GROUNDS against the people who have done nothing to christians. Your story book (aka bible) was used to justify the rape, murder and forced christianization of poles, baltic and northern european people. So why don't you have anything to say about that?

- Next you talked about Constantine dying as an hellenist. This clearly shows your lack of understanding of the literature and your history. Where on earth did you get that from? Did you know that Constantine is revered as a patron saint in some Eastern Orthodox churches (particularly Greek and Armenian).?

- Are you telling me that Constantine was not a Christian? Because the implication of what you are asserting would be interesting. If you claim that he is not, then that means the whole substance of the ultra-dumb doctrine of trinity (established by the council of Nicea - a council convened by Emperor Constantine) is nothing but a sham. So you are basically admitting that it is a pagan that defines trinity and the core of Christian faith, making Christianity nothing but a pagan religion?

I am not a lawyer. Let's uphold that. I was very clear with the details. 300 years before Mohammed was born, Constantine lived and died. In this 300 years, Mohammed at his time asserted that the book that the Christians were having were authentic and reliable.

He also based the foundation of Islam on that very book. He said, whenever you, as a muslim is in doubt, come to us for answers.

The Romans captured, killed, and enslaved Christians. You are trying so hard to make Constantine a Christian. He was never a Christian. He was a politician and a ruler. As a matter of facy during his reign Christians were still killed for their faith.

But is this your best shot? Even the most pagan constantine didn't fight any religious wars.

Tell me the warrior in the CE or BCE who fought a battle in the name of estaishing a religion

I am profoundly glad that you confirmed that you could not find Jubril in that verse. Thank you, very much for proving your clerics and amiable translators wrong. Now, AntiChristian, where did you get Jubril in that verse from? You come and get evidence for your brother.

I am a computer guru, sir. Not a lawyer. Hahaha he just called me a charge and bail lawyer. Look at all my posts here, you can see that I post direct from the quran. I actually wanted to go solely on the quran before the hadith. Your brother pushed me out of my track. I didn't know about answering islam, but I will go on it for sure.

My words are clearly constructed and synonymous to my writing style. I know about publishing, Sir. I wouldn't waste my time and money on plagiarism.

Isn't it rudimentary that of all the facts that I have posted, all you could do is attack my person rather than providing counter evidence.

So sad that even if you did that, you would simply be countering your Islamic clerics and renowned writers cos every post here is authorised and endorsed by Islam. I posted SAHIH (truth) hadith. An islamic truth and yet you call it false. Hahaha the clash of the titans. Who who holds more islamic sahih, you or your clerics?

Welcome to my classroom. Did mohammed attest that the books that the Jews and Christians had at HIS TIME were true (truth)?

LegalWolf:
You, your mentors at answering-islam and other blogs do not have the intellectual capacity to debate me not to talk of you (who is so dumb that you just copy things straight from those blogs and post). If one copies and paste your quotes on google, most of the argument will pop up. Apparently, if you were to be writing an intellectual work, you would have failed for lack of originality, coherence of thoughts and plagiarism. But what do I expect from someone who worships yhwh and has a faulty reasoning faculty?

That said, you assert that quran means scriptures right (an assertion I saw a blog the same way you've copied it). Can I ask a couple of questions:

- what are the arabic characters for Quran and that for revelation?

- What about characters for reveal, revealed and revelation? (in fact, what I am testing here is the tenses and nothing more)

- you said, our mullahs inserted gabriel into the Quran, are you talking about the original text of Surahtul -Anbiyai or the translated version. Because I just read the Arabic text and I cannot find the word Jubril? Are you relying on Arabic translation? If you are (which I know you are because you are certainly dumb and do not understand either Arabic or Greek. On the latter, the language in which the bible was written, we will get there later), which of the authors are you relying on? Yusuf Ali, Pickthall just name them

- On your claim of perjury, you are certainly one of those charge and bail lawyers. No doubt about that BECAUSE how would translation of the Quran amount to perjury. How was it done on Oath? Do you even know the ingredients for the offense of perjury? And even at that, perjury under which law? Nigerian or English? Please go litter the magistrate courts and hustle for your 2k a day. At least, you will get more money than spewing nonsense here claiming to be a lawyer that you are not.

TenQ:
I even want to take them for their words
1. Allah has a description that Muslims know.
We know that Allah has two right hands
2. Allah will reveal himself to the Muslim in another shape/form
3. Even though this is Allah, Muslims do not recognize him
4. Allah now changes into the shape Muslims know and then Muslims will worship him.

Till today, Muslims in fear of ridicule claim they don't know how Allah looks like.

However, Mohammed described him clearly:
1. Allah looks very much like the Dajjal except that Allah has (maybe) at least 2 eyes whereas the Dajjal has only one eye and probably he doesn't have kafir written between his eyes

Sahih al-Bukhari 7408
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah did not send any prophet but that he warned his nation of the one-eyed liar (Ad-Dajjal). He is one-eyed while your Lord is not one-eyed, The word 'Kafir' (unbeliever) is written between his two eyes.


2. We also know that Allah has two right hands and no left hands ) according to prophet Muhammad SAW)

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."


1. The Dajjal is a physical being, if Allah is not, why compare Allah with the Dajjal?
2. If Allah looks vastly different from the Dajjal, why did Mohammed emphasized mainly the eyes as the difference

Stand your ground with them. Do not let any detail slide. If you choke a muslim hard enough intellectually, in the absence of violence, he will submit to logic.

The muslims on Nairaland are ignorant. They know so little about their religion. In fact, they are learning from you. We are the lie detectors for them. All thry do is go to myislam to get answers. All their answers are similar. They use one single brain. It is only when you point out the idiocy of that myislam brain that they deflect or hide.

The real Arab Muslims are burning their hijabs and SEEKING FREEDOM. They know what the true face of Islam is. These Nigerian muslims enjoy Islam with the freedom that Christianity offers them IN NIGERIA.

Rich Arabs are running out with their families to secure Australian, British, and American passports. No muslims craves to SETTLE in Saudi Arabia. No one goes to Pakistan or even Malaysia or Indonesia. They are all seeking to live among Christians.

Even the followers of allah have better moral and compassion than allah.

Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah's Messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran 4:. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).
Sahih Muslim 8:3432

Look at how miserable their life will be in the jannah. A life of orgy. What is left of a man who has sex with 100 women in a single day?


Copulation in this world, besides carrying uncleanness at the time of gratification, also makes people neglectful. But, an intercourse in paradise makes one mindful and aware... A faithful man will enjoy a hundred virgins in a day in paradise and the astonishing fact is that they would again become virgins immediately thereafter.
Ayatullah Dastaghaib Shirazi. Heart of the Qur'an: A Commentary to Sura al Yasin. Ansariyan Publications (Qum). Ayat no. 53-57.

illicit:
Are u indirectly saying that it's a cock and bull story

hahahaha islam is a joke to poke. Haha they give me laughs

Sahih Muslim 2372a

When he came, he (Moses) boxed him and his eye was knocked out. He (the Angel of Death) came back to the Lord and said: You sent me to a servant. who did not ...

So, allah sent HIS angel of death to HIS prophet. So, the angel of death lives with allah and runs erands for allah.

Was Moses the first knock out boxer in history?

How did Moses KO this angel and left him blind? How was he able to find his way back to allah?

Reference : Sahih Muslim 821a
In-book reference : Book 6, Hadith 334
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 4, Hadith 1789

Chapter: The clarification that the Qur’an was revealed in seven ahruf (modes of recitation), and clarifying its meaning
(48)
Ubayy b. Ka'b reported that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was near the tank of Banu Ghifar that Gabriel came to him and said:
Allah has commanded you to recite to your people the Qur'an in one dialect. Upon this he said: I ask from Allah pardon and forgiveness. My people are not capable of doing it. He then came for the second time and said: Allah has commanded you that you should recite the Qur'an to your people in two dialects. Upon this he (the Holy prophet) again said: I seek pardon and forgiveness from Allah, my people would not be able to do so. He (Gabriel) came for the third time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur'an to your people in three dialects. Upon this he said: I ask pardon and forgiveness from Allah. My people would not be able to do it. He then came to him for the fourth time and said: Allah has commanded you to recite the Qur'an to your people in seven dialects, and in whichever dialect they would recite, they would be right.


What are the seven dialects of the Quran?
Mohammed kept on telling allah that his people cannot understand the words of allah.
Does mohammed know better than allah?
Does allah not know the level of comprehension of his servants?

AntiChristian:
This is a Phrase which can mean they "shower blessing on the stone".

Salah, salat all means prayer or pray. Moreover if you found such words in a religious book, it is undeniably referring to prayer. Arabic is a poetic language. It has rich vocabulary. It stole from Aramaic, syriac, Hebrew etc. so you would expect it to have more vocabulary than her predecessors.

There is no reason why we should have an issue about the meaning of salah in a religious book which even today literally means pray?

let us check this before the ban me again:

Muhammad Asad
and then We create out of the drop of sperm a germ-cell, and then We create out of the germ-cell an embryonic lump, and then We create within the embryonic lump bones, and then We clothe the bones with flesh - and then We bring [all] this into being as a new creation: hallowed, therefore, is God, the best of artisans.

The Clear Quran, Dr. Mustafa Khattab
then We developed the drop into a clinging clot ˹of blood˺, then developed the clot into a lump ˹of flesh˺, then developed the lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, then We brought it into being as a new creation. So Blessed is Allah, the Best of Creators.

Safi Kaskas
and then We transformed the fertilized ovum into a clinging leach, and the leach into a chewed morsel, and [from] the chewed morsel, We created bones, and We covered the bones with flesh, and then we structured him into yet another creation. Blessed is God, the best of creators.


How many creators are there in islam? Do we see why allah needed the ‘WE’ so badly?

Muhammad asad compared allah to artisans.

Even right in the quran, the proof of many creators exists.

AntiChristian:
This is foolishness! Will Google translate explain how words are used in grammar?

What type of prayer? Is it supplication? Is it Salah that involved standing , bowing and prostration?
Google translate won't give you this!

You need to learn!

You cannot fool everyone at the same time. You do not speak the language that you are arguing on. You are trusting the sources that have disappointed you.

Initially I told you that angel Gabriel was a spurious insertion in that quran that you have been reading. You ran away for weeks. The I called you out repetitively before you came back out of shame.

You continue to rely on these sources when the fact is clear to you. al barka means blessing. salat is to pray. You cannot change and entire language just to solve a particular crime. You cannot fool your bowel.

Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 143
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The Prophet said to Abu Talha, “Choose one of your boy servants to serve me in my expedition to Khaibar.” So, Abu Talha took me letting me ride behind him while I was a boy nearing the age of puberty. I used to serve Allah’s Apostle when he stopped to rest. I heard him saying repeatedly, “O Allah! I seek refuge with You from distress and sorrow, from helplessness and laziness, from miserliness and cowardice, from being heavily in debt and[b] from being overcome by men[/b].”

Tell me why your prophet always wanted little boys. Why do MEN also overcome your prophet? Why can't he control his organs before little boys. Sucking the innocent out of their mouths, sucking their little innocent penis, always wanting to go on an "expedition" (not with his assistant, Jubril or his followers but) with a little boy of a particular age group, NEARING PUBERTY. That little boy on an expedition never came back the same. He lost his innocence on that expedition.

Mohammed had companions. Why didn't he go with any? Why a lonely little boy on AN (s)EXPEDITION. Would you leave your son to someone like momoh who sucks the living daylight of boys tongues and joysticks?

I keep asking you, why homosexuality was abolished ONLY in the 19th century in Islam? For 1200 years in the calendar of homosexuality, what happened in Islam?

AntiChristian:
Allah sends His Salat (Graces, Honours, Blessings, Mercy, etc.) on the Prophet (Muhammad SAW) and also His angels too (ask Allah to bless and forgive him). O you who believe! Send your Salat on (ask Allah to bless) him (Muhammad SAW), and (you should) greet (salute) him with the Islamic way of greeting (salutation i.e. AsSalamu Alaikum).

[5] Quran (33:56) Muhsin Khan translation



You can translate this as it is from the Holy Spirit and not from the Qur'an!

AntiChristian:
Of course, a half blind man is the king of the blind!
It only takes a fool to lead the foolish!
Where is the deception?
Muslims are just tired of the unnecessary argument that leads nowhere and even include lies and twisting of facts!

https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:193
Why is allah CARRIED by 8 mountain goats? Doesn’t he have powers to levitate or walk by himself?

Why is allah so light in weight? 8 mountain goats?

Surah 69:17 And the angels will be on its sides, and eight angels will, that Day, bear the Throne of your Lord above them. And the angels will be on the sides thereof, and eight will uphold the Throne of thy Lord that day, above them.

Why can’t allah move without a help? Why can’t he position without a help of a goat or an angel? Is he/are they crippled?
Before the goats and angels who carried the crippled allah?

So if the angels rebelled, allah will crumble like Naira?

Book 33, Number 6416: Abdullah b. 'Amr b. al-'As reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying : Allah ordained the measures (of quality) of the creation fifty thousand years before He created the heavens and the earth, as His Throne was upon water.

Where was the water on which allah’s throne rested before he created the heaven and the earth?

AntiChristian:
Of course, a half blind man is the king of the blind!

It only takes a fool to lead the foolish!

Where is the deception?

Muslims are just tired of the unnecessary argument that leads nowhere and even include lies and twisting of facts!

TenQ:
It is good you recognise that Elohim is a title and not a name !

Of course, there is no one like allah who has two right hands and who is so alike to the dajjal except that he doesn't have one eyes like him.

Even as muslims, on the day of resurrection, you wouldn't recognise Allah!
Would you?

Does Allah have TWO right hands and no left hand?

Ask him what shape is allah.
Is allah a shape or an amoeba?

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 532s:
Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri:
Then Allah will come to them and says: “I am your Lord”, they reply: we’ll stay here till our Lord comes to us and when he comes to us we will recognize him, then Allah will appear in such a shape that they can recognize …

' Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say, 'You are not our Lord. ' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, 'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?'

Is allah a shape or an amoeba? Is he shapeless? He has two shapes. The one they know and the one they do not know.

What is the meaning of quran?

AntiChristian:


Diversion tactics! When you are ready, you'll return to where you digressed from!

You are screaming debate and fuming like someone who is being strangled. Logically, I am throwing napalm and nukes here. I am not here bragging over anything. I am actively servicing Islam. Look at my track record. If you got the mojo, drop it. If you ever wanted a challenge go ahead with it. You are insulting and daring only. No brain in that skull. I was able to read your quran by myself to figure out that you were lied to. In your very noble quran, in surah 21:91 And ˹remember˺ the one who guarded her vagina, so We blew into her our spirit, making her and her son a sign for the worlds.

The above is my translation. Your scribes deceived you by injecting GABRIEL into the quran in their own translation. So, the quran that you read in Arabic is different from yours in English. That is a collateral deceit. I am glad that you inferred that you are a lawyer. So, how big is this case in court? Isn't this perjury? That is subverting the power of the jury by lying under oath. It is a huge crime and no one will ever escape jail time for this. One can spend up to 5 years.

So, why ain't you calling for jail time on the clerics who injected words that are outre in your NOBLE and HOLY quran? That is desecrating the supposedly holy book. Moreover, it shows that you have more reverence to your scribes than the quran. Why didn't you flare up as a lawyer who understands the meaning of perjury rather than allow someone lie against allah?

And, muslims go on spewing dot for for, letter for letter, word for word gibberish. What scripture did I misinterpret? I have not interpreted anything here. You said that the quran was revealed to mohammed. And, what did he do? interpret it to our understanding. If you spotted one, how about the others that I didn't?

In fact the word, revelation in Arabic is a wrong word for quran. Quran means scriptures. In the original semitic words, these mean vision. Not revelation. For example, Nebuchadnezzar had the vision that Daniel reveal. So, to put it right in that case, Nebuchadnezzar had the quran, (put in his heart) that Daniel gave the REVALATION for.

So, if Mohammed said that it was revealed to him by a man who looked like EVERY OTHER MAN, Jubril (can't you see how condescending mohammed was of Jubril? Relegating him to an ordinary man and also calling his HIS ASSITANT very disrespecful), How was it quran to Mohammed? Why was Jubril needed? Why was it called a book?

LegalWolf:
Lol. You’re such a confused soul. In one breadth, you said you cant argue with a Muslim. In another breadth, you’ve gone ahead to (mis) quote and misinterpret scripture out of context to suite your narrow perspective. If yhwh ur god had not been an imbecilic mor0n and had given you a functional brain, you will be able to debate.


If you’re sure of what you’re saying, why don’t u let us debated topic by topic so we can analyse everything. Not that expect you to change ur bigoted mind but to tell you that your infantile storybook called bible is nothing but hogwash. And yhwh is nothing but a powerless, racist and mor0nic god?

I challenge you to accept this debate. One topic by topic and don’t spam my mention with so many quotes that I won’t even know which to start from