₦airaland Forum

Paperwhite:
“Even when the reality on ground shows that a fresh doctor presently enters the public service on CONMESS 3 which is the equivalent of GL 12 with a take home monthly package ofN313,000,00 per month, the closest in line who are health professionals enter public service on CONHESS 9 which is the equivalent of GL 10 with a package of N161,670.00 with a proposal to have an adjustment that takes him to a total emolument ofN190,000.00, the two ministers who are members of NMA have taken positions that these health professionals seek parity with doctors. In mathematical terms this is a significant 61 per cent differential.”
JOHESU have become so paranoid in their demands that they have now resort to lying.It's a pity.

Ehen?

MrBigiman:
These clowns are only deceiving themselves. There is a court order to obey and u are relieving strike in three states. By the time the government is done with Johesu leadership, they would need the stamina to jump out of police vehicle. An ability the morbidly obese Biobele doesn't have. The trouble is glaring, but the leadership is being cheered on to madness.

The same court orders that your minister of doctors has refused to implement in favour of johesu? you must be high something strong.

JOHESU'S STRUGGLE: THIS IS OUR CASE—WE ARE NOT SEEKING EQUAL PAY WITH DOCTORS, BUT EQUITY

BY Stephen Chubiyojo Pharmacist & Abubakar Umar(Saraki)PhD

"We must let the world know that the Health Workers are seeking for redress against injustice and not seeking equality in renumeration.

We are questioning where in the world does a first degree holder under the disguise of MBBS enter into service at GL12?

We are questioning the rationality of an employed graduate Pharmacist, Physiotherapist, Medical Lab Scientist, Nurse etc spending about 10 years in service before catching up with an MBBS graduate at his/her point of entry!

Where is it in all the guidelines for employment into the public or civil service? Where is the Head of Service of the Federation? Where is the Secretary To The Government Of The Federation? Where is the Chairman Salaries and Wages Commission? Where are the Heads of Establishments in The Federal Ministry of Finance, Office of The Accountant General and Auditor General of and for the Federation? Where are they?

Where is the Anthony General and Minister of Justice? Where are the Law Makers in the Hallowed Chambers of the National Assembly? Where is the Vice President a revered Professor of Law? Indeed, Where is Mr President, the shining example of integrity, accountability, equity and justice?

Where are all these authorities when Health Workers in Nigeria are being subjugated and oppressed by a microscopic few that arrogate to themselves the power to determine who gets what, when and how?

Let the public know that right in our current salary table(CONHESS) is a design to truncate our career progression for a period of four years.

On the table, there is no provision for Deputy Director despite the fact that health workers get promoted to that rank after spending at least four years in the rank of an Assistant Director.

One of our demands is the implementation of the adjusted CONHESS table from 15 to 16 to accommodate Deputy Director on CONHESS 15 and scale up the Director to CONHESS 16.

Other demands such as adjustment in retirement age from 60 to 65years cut across all categories of staff in the Health Sector including the so-called Medical Staff.

I want to use this opportunity to call on all well meaning Nigerians, Traditional, Religious leaders and Leaders of thought to prevail on Government to address the question of inequality and illegalities pervading the health sector.

Health Workers are not worried that the Medical Doctors in Nigeria are jumping scale without any enabling circular from Establishment. They are enjoying skipping with arrears without any appropriation. They were paid CONTISS Arrears running into billions sometimes in 2004 or thereabout even when they weren't on CONTISS Scale. We can go on and on, but these haven't been part of our demands despite being our civic duty to point out.

For peace to return and sustained, Government should mutter the desired courage to address our concerns for the benefits of the downtrodden masses of this country that doesn't have the means to afford the throat cutting prices charged at Private Clinics predominantly owned by the Medical Doctors."

Shame on NMA.....i spit on you!

Nigeria Doctors are taking advantage of the failed state of the nation, they can't be blamed totally. JOHESU should be resolute if they want to be free from Doctor's shackles of wickedness.

Alale @work

They should go and sit down joor. From the list of their demands, it is obvious they are fighting for their pockets.

Seriously?

Doctors and propaganda..... money money all the time. Can you guys ever be satisfied, abi na by force to read medicine?
Tell us the real issues here. These weeping up of sentiments will not help you.
But na small e remain , di e lo ku k'e te.
Just continue your useless strike.

Who is who in the lab?

http://labtestsonline.org/lab/who/start/2

http://labtestsonline.org/lab/who/

;DBashing of life

Fg should have allowed these doctors to stay at home for at least two months without salary ........ teach them a good lesson. Then, they won't come here and be making noise. People that were practically begging fg to reinstate them, now they are making mouth..... would NMA have suspended the strike if residents were not sacked.
Good move by Fg..... if dem born you guys well, try go another strike nw

armadeo: You still have courage to open mouth. I put it again nothing in your post suggests what the document says.

Odensine, that was the circular for the implementation of the new salary increament. it was released january.

armadeo: This op you posted a document dated January and started ranting in drs pay.
What exactly is wrong with you.

Your comments and the circular are parallel lines.

You should have just left the tread for people that understand it. Something else could cure you itching fingers...you know?

donbenie: He is saying if you have issues with what the government is paying Doctors,you should go and apply for it.It is non of your business what the government decides to pay doctors,Haba,see beef,U must be a JOHESU..

see reasoning..... with these kind of things nigeria breed. No hope of a better country here.

Arsenate: dude, anyone with a decent education will understand that everyone is important in an organization. Without the cleaners, for example, the whole place will stink and definitely won't be conducive for work. you don't even need education to know this. common sense. oh well; what do they say about common sense...
enjoy bro.

Thank you!

sainty2k3: Yes o, I pray that they dare talk of strike , it will be our chance to show them how useless they can be

Sorry, how old are you?

Ojeremi: Why dont you read medicine, even if not for the money but for the lifes u want to save even when u can easily lose yours...instead u do a 2year diploma and want to be called Consultant.

what is this one saying?

Doctors started receiving their new salary arrears today. Hopefuly they should resume work soon.
But how sustainable is this?
A Situation where a consultant collected #700,000 as two month salary increament arrears. Is medicine in nigeria all about money? Presently, a fresh consultant takes home around #530,000.00 monthly for doing almost nothing (Residents run the hospital ). Consultants new take home now will be around #900,000.00 monthly.
When patients pay through their noses to get treated in our hospitals with dilapitated facilties everywhere, doctors are busy enriching their pockets.
Why won't all doctors want to do residency and become consultant sharp sharp! it shows why they are more concerned with passing their exams than patients care. I Learnt dis jumbo pay didn't cut across though, guess the Ogas betrayed the Regs. Reason why the younger docs want to start on level 13.
Why won't JOHESU members want to become cosultants by all means.
When are we going to get a thing right in this country?
Are doctors the only underpaid workers in nigeria?
How many state government can pay a consultant #900,000 monthly? We are yet to see the end of doctors strike.
There is serious problem!

Could this be true?

Good!

prettyprettywow: Na wa o. Imagine Obembe "we have medical and non-medical workers. Medical workers are Drs while non-medical are allied health workers" If the word "medical refers to Drs alone, I wonder why we have "medical"lab scientists, Medical rehab, medical image scientists.

No mind him.... the guy na native doctor!

Newspapers are cited as the most relied-upon source or tied for most relied upon for information.
This dependence on newspapers for so many
local topics sets it apart from all other sources
of local news. The internet was a distant
second to newspapers in terms of widespread
use and value.
This sense from the public that newspapers are
a place where they can turn to for information
on a wide range of local topics, more so than
other sources only places more emphasis on
the need for the NMA to balance and weigh the
information the media is sending out to the
public and reconsider its stance as the media
tilts towards public sympathy.
Here is a compilation of the various Editorials
by major Newspapers on the NMA STRIKE
GUARDIAN EDITORIAL: NMASTRIKE: Blatant
Betrayal of Obligation to Humanity http://
/CLVwj4
VANGUARD EDITORIAL: NMASTRIKE - Not
Based on Sustainable Principles http:///g
IZdvoY
SUNNEWS EDITORIAL: NMASTRIKE - An Annual
Ritual for all Kinds of Reasons http:///
GPM38a
DAILYTRUST EDITORIAL BOARD : NMASTRIKE -
Foolish Pride and self Glorification appear to be
the Problem http:///WrFms6
PUNCH EDITORIAL BOARD : Nigerian Doctors
Have Over-used and Abused the Strike Weapon
http:///kBftyG
NATIONAL MIRROR EDITORIAL: NMA STRIKE-
Selfish Demands and Lack of Apreciation of the
Sensibilities of Other Stakeholders. http://
/VTEtM0
LEADERSHIP EDITORIAL BOARD: NMA Fast
Losing Public Sympathy Because of Its
Penchant for Going on Strike Over Flimsy
Reasons http:///qftgy3

http://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/2014/07/nma-strike-how-many-more-damning-newspaper-editorials-before-strike-ends

drobadebayo: Stopping Implementation of a policy that will constitute anarchy and suing NMA to court by johesu are widely distinct.
Don't forget that johesu threatened strike if surgeon general was appointed.
Johesu likes playing dirty but unfortunately NMA can't be sued nor cn dey sue.dey cn go ahead nd sue MDCAN though.

NMA can't be sued nor sue?
because?

candy: Don't mind them. JOHESU should learn to sow their cloth where it's torn and get the H- out of NMA vs FG ish!

Where were you when MDCAN took FG to court to stop the implementation of its agreement with JOHESU?
Hypocrite!

hehehe
So many funny comments, i can't just imagine how dump people can be. Freedom of this, freedom of that....
We have a constitution, Nigeria subscribed to the rule of law, it is not by mouth. There are laws, rules and regulations.
It is not compulsory you work with the government, if the terms and conditions doesn't suit you. You have the right to private practice if you can abide by its rules also.
Let the court decides. I remember doctors tried it with Gov. Fayemi in Ekiti, let them tell us the outcome.

"Kosi bi irun imu alagbase se gun to, eni to gboko fun loga e"

Except doctors want their own parallel constitution.

dem don swear for nigerian doctors?

http://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/2014/07/medical-doctors-mobilize-frantically-to-fight-medical-laboratory-scientist-postgraduate-college-at-house-of-representative-hearing#.U8FRjWrTVxs

Ok..... there is a saying where I come from that, what is facing somebody is backing another person.
Medicine is a noble profession, doctors are lovable professionals but majority of our naija doctors, gush!
We don't hate doctors, infact, i have doctor siblings, ironicaly, one is a typical naija doctor while the other is so down to earth. It is this ego wahala! Even, God says he detest the proud. 90% of nigerian doctors are something else but when you meet the ones with the true calling, they are wonderful, they didn't read medicine to escape poverty but to contribute to humanity.
If doctors can bury their ego, greed, selfishness and have the right attitude to what they practice, they are great people!

Onlinebizexpert: Do I blame her no.........


If she knew that what it took me to pass a test of five marks in medical school is the same as what it took her to pass a degree exam of 100 marks

What is keshi doing that he is demanding a salary of 10 million naira per month, if it were to be doctors even churches and mosques would go on strike

What did a senator read that his salary can foot the salaries of 25 professors of medicine


If people knew that the fight to answer consultant by other medically inclined professions is simply a ploy to assume power

Having another consultant In the hospital is the same as having two captains in a ship

I will not blame funke she is trying to sell her newspaper by writing such a demeaning article to the people who can elongate the line between life and death after GOD

I don't expect funke to understand because unlike her I have to read 3 courses (anatomy,physiology,biochemistry) which lasts for about 15 years in just 18 months and am expected to be better than the person that reads just one of the aforementioned courses and yet such a person wants to assume a post that that takes a doctor an average of 25years to reach


I won't blame funke because maybe in her world a footballer like Mikel can demand for the title of world best player just like messi and c ronaldo by just playing back pass


U claim its greed but I think its the right thing

If I should be in charge of your life in your weakest moments don't you think I should be financially emotionally and psychologically stable....


Do I blame funke and some professional jambites on naira land for their articles and comments respectively.....no I wont



Why don't you whole lot contest for the position of GOD who created the universe because we can give both to humans

I am not in support of a situation whereby patients are punished for the crime of others but till we as a country get it right by giving honour to whom it is due we can never make a head way


To funke keep writing what you think is right afterall its your job and you are paid to do so



But one thing is sure IF TWO ELEPHANTS FIGHT THE GRASSES WILL SUFFER

That's all I can say for now, falter my points if you have the facts.........thanks again

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
can't believe i wrote the above emotional statements, but the truth must be told

Imagine! how can you compare yourself with keshi. did you know many millions of people he needs to satisfy with that job or the number of people subscribing to that "one" friendly match? You must be joking.
How many people's effort does it take to become a physician? Can you even win an election within your nuclear family or how many mouth are you feeding with your income? to compare your income with a senators is absurd.
Nigerians have tried for you guys, even at NYSC level, corper doctors are subject of envy to other graduates at the end of every month.
No BSc graduate enter civil/public service on level 12 where doctors start, its level 8, which takes over 10years to get to doctors starting point.
Other civil/public servants are not satisfied with their working conditions, no one has abandoned his or her duty post for pay rise or mere administrative issues.
You guys should be grateful for once.
I'll like to believe this strike is affecting your relations somwhere somehow.
Strike or no strike people will die but it is just unfortunate for the avoidable ones.
May God help us.

The World Health Organisation as far back as
1948 defined health as the state of complete
physical, mental and social well-being and not
merely the absence of disease or infirmity.
The unfortunate presumption about health
practice is that Physicians are the only group
of professionals that render health services
and that others are helping hands. Derogatory
words like ancillary, paramedical and
supportive staff are often used to address
other health professionals like
physiotherapists, pharmacists, nurses, medical
laboratory scientists, dieticians, occupational
therapists, medical social workers,
chiropractors, osteopaths, speech pathologists
and audiologists. These descriptive words are
a misnomer as these health professionals
have their distinct training in universities,
lasting five years and one year of internship, in
most cases, and are by no means helping
hands to the medical practitioners. However,
all the health professionals work together
towards the full recovery of patients and each
professional intervenes as the need arises. For
example, a multiple injured person who is
brought to the hospital will benefit from the
services of medical officers, surgeons and
some/all the health professionals mentioned
above. The same applies to patients who
come down with neurological conditions like
stroke and there are myriads of health
conditions that require multidisciplinary
approach. It is not all conditions that are
amenable to medication and surgery.
From the foregoing, it is evident that no
singular approach/discipline can make
someone healthy. Therefore, health provision
requires team work.
The prevailing circumstances in the Nigerian
health sector and disposition of the majority of
medical practitioners and some members of
the general public, however, do not reflect the
team approach in health care delivery. Public
health facilities are built around medical
doctors. Physical structures like residential
apartments, lounges and call rooms are
provided, in most of the government-owned
hospitals, for the medical doctors and almost
none for other health team members. Wherever
such facilities exist for non-medical doctors,
they are always of lower quality. Privileges are
skewed in favour of medical doctors in terms
of wide margin emoluments, appointment into
administrative positions both in civil and
public service, which require formal education
in relevant disciplines and God-given abilities
but unfortunately restricted to the medical
practitioners, like Provost, Chairman Medical
Advisory Committee, Chief Medical Director,
Chairman, Health Management Board and
Commissioner and Minister of Health. These
enable the medical practitioners rise very high
in life in terms of socio-economic status.
As of now in Nigeria, there are medical doctors
who are state governors and senators. The
income and connections they get from their
previous privileges are undoubtedly what they
plough into aspiring to political offices and
establishing private health facilities. How
many of the other health professionals can one
find in such exalted positions or owning
private health facilities in Nigeria? They are left
to rise through the ranks in the civil service
which can only pay the bills of basic
necessities of life through shrewdness in
financial management. On the other hand, an
average patient sees non-medical doctors as
helping hands and subordinates who have to
carry out the advice of the doctor to the letter
and often times one hears “the doctor says/
the doctor has said that”. A doctor may
prescribe a pair of crutches for a patient but a
physiotherapist, based on sound clinical
judgment, may consider a walking frame
suitable for the same patient. It is sometimes
a Herculean task to convince some patients to
get something better than what a doctor has
prescribed especially things that are not within
the discipline of a medical doctor.
The health professionals whose disciplines are
supplementary to medicine over the years
have employed all civilised means provided by
the laws of the land to correct the above
mentioned lopsidedness in the Nigerian health
sector, but the Nigerian doctors on the other
hand employ illegal and suppressive
strategies, mudslinging and constantly
maintain “don’t give them” attitude towards
other health professionals. Examples abound
but citing the clamour for four deputy CMAC,
by the Nigerian medical doctors, which is not
in the enabling law governing federal hospitals
(Decree 10 of 1985), scuttling 2008 job
evaluation report and calling other health
professionals “thieves” for demanding for
skipping of CONHESS 10 are sufficient to
buttress this point.
Ironically, there is intermarriage among the
health professionals. So, what the Nigerian
medical doctors are doing is tantamount to
self-annihilation. It should be their joy and
desire that as we rubbed shoulders in the past,
going through the same education up till the
third year in the universities, we should also
rub shoulders in the high places of life.
The following are hereby suggested towards
permanent resolution of the crisis in the
Nigerian health sector:
1. The Federal Government should accept the
2008 job evaluation report and use it to
remunerate all health workers appropriately.
There may be some differences in
remunerations but they should not be wide as
they presently obtain. Subjects should not be
allowed to dictate to the authorities.
2. Distribution of existing scarce resources
amongst health workers e.g. accommodation
within the hospitals, lounges. There is nothing
bad if health workers live and socialise
together. This will facilitate interaction
amongst them and patients’ welfare could be
discussed in such places other than paper
communication that is presently predominant.
Government should also provide and fund
residency training programmes for all
categories of health workers.
3. Equal appointment of all categories of
health workers into administrative posts in
both civil and public service.
4. The Federal Government should emulate the
standards obtainable in developed countries
and give all health professionals their rightful
place.
5. Government should enact and enforce
health regulatory law that will be acceptable to
all health stakeholders.
6. In publishing and broadcasting, relevant
ethics must be maintained at all times. Any
claim by any professional body should be
double-checked with the appropriate body/
bodies before publication and when an
unwholesome statement is being made, the
speaker should be cautioned by the
interviewer.
7. Durable state-of-the-art diagnostic and
therapeutic equipment should be installed in all
the government hospitals.

http://www.punchng.com/opinion/towards-resolving-health-sector-crisis-in-nigeria/

The World Health Organisation as far back as
1948 defined health as the state of complete
physical, mental and social well-being and not
merely the absence of disease or infirmity.
The unfortunate presumption about health
practice is that Physicians are the only group
of professionals that render health services
and that others are helping hands. Derogatory
words like ancillary, paramedical and
supportive staff are often used to address
other health professionals like
physiotherapists, pharmacists, nurses, medical
laboratory scientists, dieticians, occupational
therapists, medical social workers,
chiropractors, osteopaths, speech pathologists
and audiologists. These descriptive words are
a misnomer as these health professionals
have their distinct training in universities,
lasting five years and one year of internship, in
most cases, and are by no means helping
hands to the medical practitioners. However,
all the health professionals work together
towards the full recovery of patients and each
professional intervenes as the need arises. For
example, a multiple injured person who is
brought to the hospital will benefit from the
services of medical officers, surgeons and
some/all the health professionals mentioned
above. The same applies to patients who
come down with neurological conditions like
stroke and there are myriads of health
conditions that require multidisciplinary
approach. It is not all conditions that are
amenable to medication and surgery.
From the foregoing, it is evident that no
singular approach/discipline can make
someone healthy. Therefore, health provision
requires team work.
The prevailing circumstances in the Nigerian
health sector and disposition of the majority of
medical practitioners and some members of
the general public, however, do not reflect the
team approach in health care delivery. Public
health facilities are built around medical
doctors. Physical structures like residential
apartments, lounges and call rooms are
provided, in most of the government-owned
hospitals, for the medical doctors and almost
none for other health team members. Wherever
such facilities exist for non-medical doctors,
they are always of lower quality. Privileges are
skewed in favour of medical doctors in terms
of wide margin emoluments, appointment into
administrative positions both in civil and
public service, which require formal education
in relevant disciplines and God-given abilities
but unfortunately restricted to the medical
practitioners, like Provost, Chairman Medical
Advisory Committee, Chief Medical Director,
Chairman, Health Management Board and
Commissioner and Minister of Health. These
enable the medical practitioners rise very high
in life in terms of socio-economic status.
As of now in Nigeria, there are medical doctors
who are state governors and senators. The
income and connections they get from their
previous privileges are undoubtedly what they
plough into aspiring to political offices and
establishing private health facilities. How
many of the other health professionals can one
find in such exalted positions or owning
private health facilities in Nigeria? They are left
to rise through the ranks in the civil service
which can only pay the bills of basic
necessities of life through shrewdness in
financial management. On the other hand, an
average patient sees non-medical doctors as
helping hands and subordinates who have to
carry out the advice of the doctor to the letter
and often times one hears “the doctor says/
the doctor has said that”. A doctor may
prescribe a pair of crutches for a patient but a
physiotherapist, based on sound clinical
judgment, may consider a walking frame
suitable for the same patient. It is sometimes
a Herculean task to convince some patients to
get something better than what a doctor has
prescribed especially things that are not within
the discipline of a medical doctor.
The health professionals whose disciplines are
supplementary to medicine over the years
have employed all civilised means provided by
the laws of the land to correct the above
mentioned lopsidedness in the Nigerian health
sector, but the Nigerian doctors on the other
hand employ illegal and suppressive
strategies, mudslinging and constantly
maintain “don’t give them” attitude towards
other health professionals. Examples abound
but citing the clamour for four deputy CMAC,
by the Nigerian medical doctors, which is not
in the enabling law governing federal hospitals
(Decree 10 of 1985), scuttling 2008 job
evaluation report and calling other health
professionals “thieves” for demanding for
skipping of CONHESS 10 are sufficient to
buttress this point.
Ironically, there is intermarriage among the
health professionals. So, what the Nigerian
medical doctors are doing is tantamount to
self-annihilation. It should be their joy and
desire that as we rubbed shoulders in the past,
going through the same education up till the
third year in the universities, we should also
rub shoulders in the high places of life.
The following are hereby suggested towards
permanent resolution of the crisis in the
Nigerian health sector:
1. The Federal Government should accept the
2008 job evaluation report and use it to
remunerate all health workers appropriately.
There may be some differences in
remunerations but they should not be wide as
they presently obtain. Subjects should not be
allowed to dictate to the authorities.
2. Distribution of existing scarce resources
amongst health workers e.g. accommodation
within the hospitals, lounges. There is nothing
bad if health workers live and socialise
together. This will facilitate interaction
amongst them and patients’ welfare could be
discussed in such places other than paper
communication that is presently predominant.
Government should also provide and fund
residency training programmes for all
categories of health workers.
3. Equal appointment of all categories of
health workers into administrative posts in
both civil and public service.
4. The Federal Government should emulate the
standards obtainable in developed countries
and give all health professionals their rightful
place.
5. Government should enact and enforce
health regulatory law that will be acceptable to
all health stakeholders.
6. In publishing and broadcasting, relevant
ethics must be maintained at all times. Any
claim by any professional body should be
double-checked with the appropriate body/
bodies before publication and when an
unwholesome statement is being made, the
speaker should be cautioned by the
interviewer.
7. Durable state-of-the-art diagnostic and
therapeutic equipment should be installed in all
the government hospitals.

A new Arm of Government inaugurated in nigerian. The "Nigeria Medical Association" headed by Native Dr Obembe. making it the fouth arm of government.
The Legislature.
The Executive.
The Judiciary.
and The Almighty NMA.


Long live Federal Republic of Nigeria!


http://www.medicalworldnigeria.com/2014/07/nigerian-medical-association-edm-and-national-association-of-resident-doctors-e-nec-votes-to-continue-strike-nmastrike