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Helinuse:

Suez crisis: 1956

America's domination as a world superpower: 1898

This one is coughing on Nairaland that Egypt made Britain stop being the world's greatest superpower.


I bet you don't even know what the Suez crisis is.

It was just like what Iran was doing: blocking the shipping route. Israel attacked, then France and Britain joined.
They were immediately pressured by the UNITED STATES to withdraw as they were already in Egypt, boots on the ground.
The United States opted for an "MOU," hoping to make Egypt an ally at Israel's expense.

The same route is playing out today, right?


But notice something: it didn't make Egypt a superpower.

You are grabbing statements out of your ass. Who said Egypt became a superpower?

The Suez Crisis was when Egypt nationalised the suez canal in 1956 but Britain and France tried to stop them but they gave up due to American and Soviet pressure. That war confirmed that the British and French were no longer the undisputed hegemon. The same with this war in Iran almost exactly 70 years later with the US unable to defeat Iran confirming that America is not the world’s superpower anymore 😂

I have heard that americope too many times. ‘We don’t lose wars, but interest’ sure you lose interest in a 20 year war😂. A war that you still couldn’t even incapacitate the enemy and the enemy ends up stronger than before you left😂

Oga go and hide. You know I nothing about geopolitics.

1898 was not the year the US became the world’s superpower either but when the US was a world power. That didn’t happen till 1945 the end of WW2. The word ‘superpower’ was coined to describe the USA and USSR at the end of WW2 and beginning of the Cold War.

Nobody is saying these wars are making the opponents world powers. Who gave you that idea. These wars be it in Suez or Iran both confirm the decline of these empires.

Iran is not even a peer to either US, Russia or China not even close. It is a middling power at best but it has managed to clip the wings of the dying American eagle 😂😂😂

Helinuse:
"War is a continuation of politics," says a Nigerian who is overwhelmed with supporting those who always lose.

Lose? At the end of the day, not a single objective of the war has America achieved. A war is ultimately a political game.

IAEA stated that Iran still has 440 kg of uranium enriched to 60%.

They still have most of their productive capacity for their drones and missiles too. Not even western propaganda can save the US from this humiliating defeat

Helinuse:
This tin dey pain you fa.


America is no longer a hegemon,
Iran is now the hegemon.

Pain who? You are again making up things. Who said Iran is now the hegemon? No Iran is a middle power at best but them stalemating/beating the US shows that the US is no longer the undisputed hegemon. That is why I compared this war to the Suez Crisis here the British Empire was confirmed to not be the world’s superpower anymore. This is the same for the US in Iran’s war. America has never been or looked weaker.

Helinuse:


na yu go taya.
Asymmetric warfare is fought only by those who are allowed to.
Iraq didn't fight asymmetric warfare simply because the US didn't allow them to by the operation Shock and Awe in which all their formation were bombarded even before the military set foot within.

Libyans, too, are jeehardeest, but the shock-and-awe operation didn't allow them to go "asymmetrical."
AlQaeda and ISIS, too, are jeehardeests and would prefer "asymmetrical," but the shock and awe firepower didn't permit them to.
Iran has prepared for 40 years for an "asymmetric war," but they have not been permitted to wage it, as no one is stepping foot in there but giving it to them hot from the skies.
Hamas prepared for asymmetric warfare, but instead, Israel, a master in it, gave them tremendous power and overwhelmed their ability to prosecute such an operation, and then they had to resort to "babies and geenocide" propaganda.

The Taliban took over Afhanistan simply becasue the Americans were alrady tired os spending on a country taht naturally have an ideology that glorifies d e a t h and praises failure.

So the Taliban won cause they wore America out through political means. I already said that war is a political endeavour. Battles alone cannot win a war. War is multifaceted. You think it was only battles that brought down the Axis powers? No the Axis powers lost every way they possibly could be it economically, industrially, ideologically, militarily etc. you cannot bomb or punch your way to victory which is what people like you believe.

I could care less about what Afghanistan is doing cause like the western audience peoole like you focus on that to deflect from the fact that the Taliban beat NATO. . After the US took out Bin Laden, They should have left but they decided to stay and extinguish the Taliban. That did not just fail but literally backfired. I already stated that the Taliban are stronger now than before the Americans arrived.Before the U.S. invasion in 2001,The Taliban controlled about 90–95% of Afghanistan’s territory. control virtually 100% of Afghanistan’s provinces and all major cities, including Kabul. Taliban now are at a stronger point than at any other point of their rule. America and NATO just made the Taliban stronger and they spent 20 years trying to beat them.

You are just waffling on about rubbish😂. A superpower cannot win an asymmetric war especially just by bombing alone. Bro can’t accept this so called mighty US hasn’t even won a war since WW2. These wars we have been discussing are asymmetrical warfare.

Helinuse:
Never admitted that.
But I agree with you.
In the long run, they may not achieve all their objectives,
But they surely will have a lot to lose.

So, it is only better to let the place eat itself by turning it into a Libya,
Where no organized force can project power.

They will not achieve any objective. America has not achieved any objective be it having Iran surrender, meaningfully degrading their drone and nuclear capability etc.
you are just a fool power projection? This is about trying to maintain dollar dominance nothing to do with power projection. But now that Iran is making ships start to trade in other currencies in Hormuz like Yuan that has hurt the US more. The whole purpose of the war was to make Iran surrender as Trump said but that has not happened at all 😂
Bro is so deluded.

The Iran War is America’s Suez Crisis signalling that the US is no longer undisputed hegemon.

huninaija:
Here we go again playing the blame game...you'd be surprised that this epidemic tends to be encouraged more in america, nigeria is just catching up, america don graduate to phd level in goldiggism over a decade ago, quote me anywhere

@OP both are to blame.. Monkey see as monkey do The men are to blamed for allowing themselves to be used as a bank/savings account, the women are to be blamed for patronising these types of men and allowing there bodies to be used like a theme park.. At the end of the day both parties are using themselves to either become rich or to have free/bought for punny..

Let these types of people continue to use themselves and leave the good folks alone to function in a normal enabled environment.. Shikena

This is mostly true but the part about gold digging is bs. The only part of the world that rivals Nigeria in gold digging is possibly the Middle East as Arab women are known for wanting their men to give them lavish lifestyles but other than that nowhere else comes close not Europe, South America, North America, Asia etc. only in Africa will a girl basically open up a conversation by listing you all her financial problems like her gas has finished or that her family needs money etc. gold digging is everywhere but it is most extreme in Africa especially in Nigeria.

Helinuse:
🤣🤣🤣

Battles don’t decide the winner:
Ask Japan, Germany, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.

🤣🤣🤣


You can say whatever that makes you happy bro.
If you like, say that Khamenei died of cancer.
That one no concern people wey sabi.
😅😅😅

A war is a continuation of politics by other means. It is not decided by who can punch harder on the battlefield. That is why America failed in Afghanistan and Vietnam. They won the battles but they lost the war. You are just one of those CIA bots that cope about them losing. Afghanistan today is under control of the Taliban, Vietnam is still under control of the communist part of Vietnam and you are telling me America won😂

Helinuse:
🤣🤣🤣

Battles don’t decide the winner:
Ask Japan, Germany, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.

🤣🤣🤣


You can say whatever that makes you happy bro.
If you like, say that Khamenei died of cancer.
That one no concern people wey sabi.
😅😅😅

They don’t the decide the winner especially in asymmetric warfare.

The US couldn’t stop North Vietnam from conquering the South. Neither could they stop the Taliban from taking over the country. Did I say Khamanei died of cancer? You be mumu. All I said is that killing Khamanei did nothing more than anger the country. His son replaced which is son was getting ready to do anyway.

Helinuse:
Oh yes,
Sometimes you don’t see it necessary to continue a war that you know has no end. The IRGC has an endless supply of people it can afford to loose. America has a very limited supply of people it can afford to loose.
So, we simply carry out a wave, sign an MOU, come back with another wave, sign another one, then another wave, etc. Until we have tested all our new w e a p o n s.
When we are done, we will tear the “no-keel” list. And Israel will finish the job. Ask Nasrallah and Hezbollah. 🤣🤣🤣

Sure thing and the funny thing is you admitted that in the long run neither the US or Israel will win.

Helinuse:
Well, you made more noise than this about Iran before they were even attacked.

Little did we know that Israel will start and end the war in just 30 seconds 🤣🤣🤣, leaving remaining, a rag tagged disorganized sea pirates called the IRGC.

No this war is America’s Suez Crisis. Iran is still standing like it or not.

Helinuse:
😅😅😅
You still dey cho.
Whether you like it or not, the Khamenei now, was NOT the supreme leader Khamenei one year ago. In fact, this one is only alive because he made it to a “no keel list.”

Secondly, no one expects a jeehardeest group to “surrender.” That is why the US has always had an issue with any war in the Middle East. Only Israel understands how to deal with them: “keep the assaaulht until they vanish.”

Boko Haram will never surrender
Azawad of Mali will never surrender
Hamas will never surrender
Hezbollah will never surrender

That is because they are not conventional armies. They are a religious army. And religion first makes a man unreasonable. They refuse to see the evidence and choose to believe the lie. So they may be loosing, but they view their loss as victory 😅. They may be dyeing, but will see it as “marttyyrdom.” Only Israel knows how to make them disappear.

You don’t understand the art of war. In a war, you have to achieve political objectives to win and the US hasn’t achieved a single objective. It hasn’t meaningfully degraded Iran’s capabilities. There was a study showing that Iran still had 85% of its drone capability, Iran still holds the strait which caused an energy crisis, the IRGC is intact and so Is the leadership but replaced. Khamanei was going

Ali Khamanei was expecting to have died be it through health complications (he had cancer) or being assassinated ( which the US already did). His son was getting ready to take over. Killing the leadership was really not a flex as he was already getting replaced by his son sometime down the line the US just sped it up. Mojitaba was positioned to assume his father’s place.

Those groups you have listened are less of religious groups but more of extremists and the reason the US or any major power cannot defeat them is because guerilla warfare is kryptonite for any world power. It’s why the Americans and Russian lost/losing in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Ukraine etc is cause you cannot beat insurgents with military might alone. A war is not about whom can bomb the other harder. It is a continuation of politics. Battles don’t decide the winner. It’s diplomacy and ultimately being able to achieve your political objectives.

Helinuse:
Cho Cho Cho
“US can never win…” yet they poked holes through out Tehran, and made the survivors, whom they kept alive, to “agree to a deal.”

I mean, imagine coming to my house, vanishing my father, burying my certificate in a place I can’t access again, and then making me sign a memorandum of understanding.

E make sense?

😅😅😅

Why would you sign a deal with the country you have defeated? Make this make sense 😂
Trump asked for unconditional surrender has Iran given that to them?

Imagine asking someone to surrender only striking them from afar (only air power) cause you are to scared to face them and acting like you are winning.
You are a fool. America is not meant to sign a peace agreement with a country it has ‘beaten’ 😂. As a winner, you set the terms not the opposing side. Heck there shouldn’t even be a peace agreement if you are actually the winner.

The four main parts of US Iran Peace agreement is: The 4 main pillars are:
a Ceasefire end to direct hostilities, Reopening Strait of Hormuz,Sanctions relief + economic concessions,Nuclear restrictions + inspections negotiations. It’s a far worse deal than the Obama one. It mostly favours Iran. Iran announced the other it closed the strait of Hormuz, they still have nuclear material and they gave far fewer concessions.

Helinuse:
Oh yes, taking out the leadership has a lot to do with jeehard. It simply will mean that they will have no coordination, and therefore loose their ability to project power beyond their limited environment.


Osama was taken out, Al Qaeda vanished into fringes of the Middle East.
Baghdadi was taken out and the formidable ISIS vanished to the crevices of Syria.

And for your information: the reason why US don’t want to put boots on ground, is that they already know that the IRGC is gone. 😅😅😅

It may take some time,
They may still terorrize the high seas,
But surely, they will recede back just like AlQaeda.

Osama and AQ maybe gone but not the Taliban which was the whole point of the war after killing Osama. America tried and failed to extinguish the Taliban. They made the Taliban stronger.

The Taliban today control more of Afghanistan than they did pre 9/11 and NATO left lots of military equipment that the Taliban has now incorporated its into military. The Taliban were flexing American weapons in parades at the end of the war.

What you brought up was minor victories but ultimately the US lost the Afghanistan War, The same way they lost in Vietnam and like what is happening in Iran.

Iran cannot project power and lack coordination? They have bombed every gulf country and hit critical infrastructure in those region. Killing Mojitaba’s father did nothing. That just angered the people.

The US does not have the means to invade Iran whatsoever. Iran has several times the landmass and population of Afghanistan and Vietnam countries the US failed in. On top of that, the terrain and climate in Iran is not favourable for any invading force.

America cannot even defeat much smaller foes and you think US can have boots on the ground? The US cannot even take Kharg Island talkless of taking Iran. Iran’s Foreign Minister Arabbas Aragaichi when asked does Iran fear boots on the ground and he smiled saying ‘No, we are waiting for them’.

Trump would be sending troops to their grave if the US dared to put troops on the ground. America has failed against much weaker foes and they want to take on a foe like Iran? You are a dreamer.

Helinuse:
Oh dear,

Everyone here was suggesting that they are the only country that can fight the US. 😅😅😅

Until Israel proved them otherwise.

And yes, Iran has terrorized the world economic system as meager pirates, just as the Somalians were doing, until the world got tired of them and put it all to an end.

For now, the world is not yet tired of Iranian piracy. When they are, no one will set boots on ground. They will just give the Kurds, the order.

😅😅😅

The fear of the world is that, no one knows what the Kurds are capable of, if they gain power. That is why even Turkey is begging US not to arm the Kurds.

The world literally cannot do anything has Iran has the energy market at its bulls. Have you seen the surge in oil prices globally cause of the war? The masses cannot afford that.

America asked other countries to assist in opening the strait of Hormuz and they all rejected. Iran now charges ships to cross the strait of Hormuz. This war is America’s Suez Crisis. They cannot invade Iran either as that would be Afghanistan/Vietnam 2.0.

This war has done nothing more than hasten US decline.

Nobody is saying that they are the only country that can fight the US but that Iran is an example of another weaker power beating America😂

America likes to act like the big dog yet it picks on weaker countries and still looses.

antimater:
Are you done ?😏

Now crawl back to where you came from.

I live in the United States and won't waste my time trying to educate folks like you

And so what you live in the US? What is special about the United Shithole of America? A country that more and more people are running away from? Oga educate yourself cause you are really clueless. America and the Western world is finished as a civilisation.

Helinuse:
😅😅😅
What ever makes you happy bro.


But they took out the supreme leader of the Muslim world SUPER POWER and all his generals and nothings happened.

Not even one IDF soldier fell sick with malaria.

😅😅😅😅

Like how the US replaced the Taliban with the Taliban is like how they replaced Khamanei with Khamanei. Killing the leadership did nothing but just make the country angrier. The leadership has been replaced.

Iran still maintains most of its drone capability. US and Israel did not degrade them that badly.

Helinuse:
😅😅😅

Well, it’s funny that random bombing of allied nations is what you refer to as “some damage” that is worth to be called victory.

😅😅😅

Iran has always mouthed itself to be the super power of all Muslim. A place that even Turkey which is 10 times more powerful and organized does not see itself.

Moreso, if you think terrorizing an international water way is the best posturing of strength, wait until the world gets tired of you. Then you will understand what Somalia understood when the world became tired of their piracy.

Nobody here is suggesting that Iran is a peer or a superpower. Iran is not even close to that but the fact that the US has been unable to incapacitate Iran and has had to sign a peace deal with them is hilarious. The world’s ’superpower’ cannot even defeat a middling power like Iran.

Iran has also inflicted a lot of economic pain on the world by closing the strait which is a global chokepoint.

Ajaludaogidi:
People will soon realize what is meant by THE ART AND F THE DEAL. Underestimate Trump at your own peril.

Trump has done nothing.

Helinuse:


There is.
We took out Osama, but that did not mean that we uprooted AlQaeda. It took some time.
We have taken out ayatollah, but that does not mean the IRGC is gone. It will take some time. But it will surely go.

What will hasten the process is only if the US loosens Israel's hands; then the process will be 50X faster.

These are minor victories. You took out Osama and AQ but stayed in Afghanistan all just to lose to them after 20 years. The same thing happened in Vietnam. America cannot even beat farmers in Afghanistan and Vietnam 😂

US and Israel together cannot defeat Iran as this war has shown. They haven’t even done that much damage to Iran. The damage they have done is largely being rebuilt by Iran now.

Helinuse:
I don't even understand you, sef.
You are too funny.


I am telling you that if the US had taken off the no-kill list, the same list that spared the life of the supreme leader in the 12-day war, there would be no IRGC today.

Too much for an "Iran superpower."

Then why don’t they do it? America is all talk. They have been bombing the hell out of the Iranians but IRGC is still intact, They replaced Khamanei with Khamanei😂. Iran closed down the strait etc

Guestmale:
America is not really against Iranians but Iranian autocratic government.but Russia has been taking the war directly to the unarmed Ukrainians.

The same America that funds autocratic Saudi Arabia 😂

Helinuse:
Because they survived?

How about the Taliban?
Shouldn't they also be studied?
How about ISIS?
Didn't they also survive?
How about Hezbollah?
Didn't they survive?
Why should Iran be studied?

Because of survival?

The US can’t even beat a bunch of farmers in Afghanistan and Vietnam.

Helinuse:


Before the war, the mouth made on Iran was too much that it was regarded as par with Russia and China. Even America took them as a formidable enemy. Little did people know that they were a group of ragtag terrorists that only depended on the tactic of "wearing out" their enemies.


This war has exposed them badly. Their only saving grace is that the region they find themselves in depends heavily on assets they can sacrifice anything for. Assets such as energy installations, refineries, rigs, and transport routes.

Even America knows very well that if they let Israel's hands loose now, Iran will be Gaza.

What are you smoking? Nobody saw Iran has anywhere near China and Russia. Iran is not close to a peer but has inflicted quite some damage on not just the US but its gulf partners. Iran War is America’s Suez confirming it’s no longer the world’s superpower anymore.

EdiskyHarry:
How Iran stood alone to fight these two nations should be studied as a course in all Western universities.
Ukraine has exposed to us that Russia is only big in African media,
Iran has exposed to us that USA is nothing without nuclear weapons

Ukraine is a country that is armed by 40+ countries that has still been wrecked by Russia.

shaybebaby:
What is it then?

It’s not a good example of nature is what I’m saying. You won’t really see good nature in the UK.

1Sharon:
Most Nigerian women already help reduce financial burden. Because most Nigerian women work. I’m very certain your mother wasn’t a housewife and you’ve never even met a housewife in Nigeria. So stop the pretence.

Now question for you, what is your BMI? When last did you go for a medical check-up? Do you know what your creatinine levels are? Do you drink? Do you smoke? Do you workout?

Do you have more kids than you can afford?

Yeah no most are leeches not all but most and most want the man to fund their entire lifestyle no independent mindset at all. Most are the financial burden.

1Sharon:
Nice.The beauty of the UK is out there if you're into nature.

Lake District and the mountains of Scotland are on my bucket list.

Absolute BS, UK and Europe in general is the last place to go for nature especially untamed nature. Most of the nature in Europe is heavily curated as they wiped it out mostly a couple centuries ago. Scotland is the only part of the UK that has anything close to true wilderness. England is 72% farmland and the rest of it is very urbanised.

PaZwoD:
Just say English Mud House

It’s quite different to a mud house

shaybebaby:
Essex is one of the flattest and driest counties in the UK, Cumbria the opposite, mountainous and the wettest.

I'll add pictures once we arrive but in the meantime. Enjoy the pics of the landscape as I traverse from south to North.

You call that one nature? That is what you are calling a mountain?😂