Mirasteel:
Nigeria isn't worth it, thank God she switched to USA. God bless her.

An ECOWAS passport is nothing.

Eriokanmi:
You've said it all my pesin. I once shared the story of one Taiwo here who was very good in soccer. Her skills surpassed what oshoala is displaying today cos I had watched her play in liberty stadium ibadan a couple of times in the past. She always trained with men. She was amazing. When it was time for enlistment, she was asked to bring some money which unfortunately, she was unable to raise. Her coach begged and begged, alas! That's how she was dropped. She ended up going to study nursing . She'd have been an amazing star today. There are her likes in thousands out there, whose hope and talents have been buried due to corruption at the helms.

It was good amusan went to school in the USA. That's how her Star would have been killed. I have my reasons for attacking tinubu here. It's not tinubu alone who's corrupt. We have their likes in every sector. Super corrupt people. Before Nigeria could get better, revolution that will remove all of them from the office they're occupying must happen, either by ballot or by mass protest as we're seeing today. They don't have to be killed. It requires a concerted effort.

In western countries, they won't ask you bring money to be enlisted rather, they'd be the one to spend on you. They know what it means when someone represents their nation well at a major game and wins gold. They appreciate it more than the monetary values which our leaders celebrate here. Money, money and money which won't take them anywhere farther than their graves.

Nigeria is a joke

okeyngene1:
Igbos are blessed in a unique way.
Give them opportunity to rule and see this country turn to dubai.

😂😂 not true but Nigeria may be better but Dubai?
Drop the weed

Konquest:

She was originally born 28 years ago in America, so, as an American citizen born in Cincinnati, Ohio on July 29, 1996 she is FIRST eligible to REPRESENT the United States NOT Nigeria.

So, Nigeria DIDN'T fail her. If she had NOT worked hard to get that silver medal, then she would ONLY have had herself to BLAME. All Nigerian-Americans youths should first work hard to get into the U.S. sports teams and compete for positions by PROVING themselves. Most of those young Nigerian-Americans who tried to DIDN'T work hard enough to get into the U.S. sports teams, so, they came to see how they could represent Nigeria instead. Working harder is the way to go. Period!

The Texas-based Tobi Amusan who is the current Nigerian World Record holder in the 110 metres hurdles is at least guaranteed to get Nigeria an Olympic gold medal. If not a gold medal, then in a worse case scenario, a silver or bronze medal in her sports category. So, we'll see how things pan out.

She didn’t even qualify for the final.

PheelzAlmighty:
Nigeria is a crime scene.

😂😂

Emu4life:
Nothing Big. We have people winning Gold for us too.
Congrats to her


NB: Why are idiots crying under my mention. Y'all don't know what they call "opinion"??

No medals Nigeria won

jcflex:



If Nigeria hosts this tournament, I am sure the government will spend billions of dollars on the tournament, and the organizer will declare loss at the end of the day.

A country that doesn’t even have basic amenities like constant power, adequate infrastructure and good roads is hosting a tournament?

You can’t be hosting a tournament if much of your country is being ruled by bandits, insurgents and so on.

idongesit88:
They is a prize for winning any medal, the prize for winning gold medal in the just concluded olympics is $100,000, so why should the medal be pure gold when such money is given to the gold winner?

It depends on the country
Nigeria is only paying $5,000 to gold medalists

iLoveYouToo:



You need to know where to draw the line. What has been the winning culture of Nigeria at the Olympics and other international competitions over the years? Dwindling

Our systems are failing, our best athletes have either have their eyes outside or have left, they simply weren’t good enough.


Soon the talent and brain drain will start affecting other sectors not just sports.

Nigerians are good at complaining and blame the government and others and often fail to remember that it begins with us individuals.

Top performers always show up regardless of externalities

Nigerians are just vanity upon vanity. And the problem is the country has nothing to boast. It doesn’t even have common electricity.

When I saw what the government is paying these Nigerian athletes. I was horrified and embarrassed. Gold Medalists earn only 5,000 dollars. Most countries pay that to their silver medalists but over 5 times that amount.
Nigeria is a comedy. I can’t believe that country is real.

kettykin:
Even small countries like Kenya, South Africa , Uganda, Zambia, Egypt, Jamaica all went home with medals what excuses will apc government now give, did the previous administration also kill sports or did the fuel price increment also impact on sports deliverables.

Very soon Nigerians will realize that apc really has nothing to offer Nigeria in any sector they are performing woefully. Economy is contracting at the speed of light , security sector is already gone , sports sector has shown it is degrading.

Infrastructure is not doing fantastic.

The only thing that seems to be working in Nigeria is the attempt by urchins like Reno , onanugs etc to scapegoat igbos into the descent of the apc government into obscurity

Nigeria is a mess up of a country.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Nigeria needs to be serious,we can't keep wasting money without results

Money? What they pay the medalists is a joke

Just a remark you know that there are kids raised in Nigeria that beat up their parents? Also in UK the Asian youngsters are one of the most deviants. Drugs sex ring etc.

It is complex and not so easy it is neither here nor there.

False Blacks in the UK commit far more crime. Blacks are 40% of the prison population.

MisterRuk:
I can't say for the whole Africa, but for Nigeria our parenting system is "toxic". Unless you retrain yourself mainstream parenting system in Nigeria creates two types of people: Jagudas and simps. In the Asian and Western world older generations see youngsters as potentials, as seeds to fertilized to bring forth fruits and carry on a legacy. In many Nigerian homes young ones are seen as nothing but tools. Many of us don't teach our young ones good values but when they commit a flaw we are quick to rain beating upon them.

If you think training a child in the "Africa way" is ideal, shebi the family is the core of every society ? Look around you, the characters of many millenials and gen Z in today's Nigeria, you will realize that there have been a lot of flaws in raising children over the past years.

Again these guys outside have a strong family system where family values are shared, both nuclear and extended. It's sad to say that in Nigeria our traditional family system is breaking apart, there is so much envy, segregation, fear and distrust among family members ( fear of village people is a subtle sign of that). In many African homes there are no family values, you just need someone to fear in order to behave.

That system never worked for Africa period. This is why I can’t take the black/African way seriously. Why would you raise your child in an environment that doesn’t even have basic amenities like constant power, good roads and adequate infrastructure.

etrange:

Interesting really.

Or keep them out of Africa FULLSTOP. Childhood in Africa would be unadventurous and dull.

adexpa:
I don't think it is necessary to return a child back to Africa before getting the best out of them. We have well mannered guys raised in the West today, the major work lies with the parents; parents needs to be there to guide and groom them.....it takes a well mannered/trained/educated parents to raise a well mannered child, many parents do not have enough information/education to raise good child.
One can only bring him/her home occasionally to see how things are being done. Going through hardship is not necessary a ticket to a good child. Many great America leaders were raised there and they turned out great.

Look at how blacks contribute to crime in the UK alone. Africans certainly don’t raise kids well.

WoundedLamb:


Hhmm... I don't really know why people tend to believe the US is irreligious. It's only a very small part of the population that identifies as atheist. The country is secular in the sense that religion isn't used as the basis for making laws. But the citizens have and maintain their respective religions.

Again, do you really think the parents need religion as a tool to make thier kids respectful? I personally don't think morality is primarily function of religion. But that's just a personal opinion. I don't think any people in the world are as polite as Canadians (sometimes, the over politeness could be sickening if not deceiving). But yet, they are North Americans.

So would you send your kids to Africa like my friend plans to do?

The more religious parts of the world tend to be worse off.
It may not be as irreligious as Europe but it is very irreligious. The US is also approaching European levels of irreligion . Americans particularly the younger generation are far less religious and much more liberal. It’s been more liberal parties like Democrats winning most of the previous elections. Within another 50 years, The US will be just as irreligious and secular as Europe, Canada, Australia and NZ.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/09/13/modeling-the-future-of-religion-in-america/

https://time.com/6693016/americas-less-religious-politics-to-blame/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_United_States#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20American%20Values,were%20%22nones%22%20in%202018.

Atheists will conquer the West before they move onto Africa, Middle East and the other developing regions

There comes a point where the developing countries become developed and as that happens the technology and education will improve eradicating religion.

There are so many states in the US like California, New York, Massachusetts etc that ironically tend to be the smartest, richest and most prosperous states as well many developed countries like Japan, Singapore, South Korea where religion is dead.

Within another 50 years, the US will be a highly irreligious country like Europe.

etrange:


I do know how you arrived at that percentage but I guess we have to stick with our individual experiences then cause here in Canada, the reverse is the case. You'll have to really good to get the job before those with local experience. We have Africans (and Asians) who moved here and decided to keep looking for ways to game the system while we also have the serious ones. So foreigners don't get any preferential treatment. As for the kids, many can't speak their Nigerian languages or even understand the culture (that's probably what a typical Nigerian will define as not turning out well) but these kids aren't any less serious with thier lives. They have thier goals/ambitions and they work towards them just like anyone else. It's okay to want your kid to appreciate your culture but that doesn't mean those don't are bad.

The problem with many Nigerians is that they can’t argue. She’s talking out of her ass. Blacks contribute to a disproportionate amount of crime in western countries. And Africa produces far more terrorists, bandits and thugs than virtually any other continent on the planet.

Again and again it has been proven that violence does the opposite in raising a child.

If a parents is not abusive and are firm with their kids I don't see the need for the child to call police.

That aside you said African kids are smarter than western children.

The world tech today are controlled by invention created by kids from the west- Facebook, WhatsApp, reddit etc can you tell us what African children within the same cohort has created for the world?

Fear and the way we raise kids in Africa kills creativity. I think raising a child should be engaging and they need to allow to explore their creative sides at a very young age.

Don’t mind these fools, Africans/Blacks wherever they go tend to disproportionately contribute to crime there. In the UK alone, Blacks are about 30% of the prison population but are only 5% of the UK population. Ever since Europe has been welcoming migrants from the Middle East and Africa. Their crime has gone off the roof. I wonder why

jaxxy:
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U last paragraph show u don’t understand what hardening or the “suffering” I’m talking about is.

Who told u people in the village are stronger or sharper or more hardworking than those in Lagos? Who told u the suffering I’m talking about is necessarily going to a more rural area to starve urself and learn farming? Are they not farmers in America?

I’m talking about a tougher system, where the people’s adaptation rate is not only fast bt high. I’m talking of place that makes u think on ur feet not sleep on ur feet, I’m talking of where u the struggle to survive and get by is serious and u have no options. I’m talking about where there’s alot of competition at all levels not just academic, career bt especially on the street. It’s a multidimensional thing i can’t really explain it.

Let me ask u a question: can u survive is a place where the systems are dysfunctional and frustrating ur life and yet u mange to improvise and come out ontop? Most people brought up abroad will loose it in months because ur system supports u well enough.

Now I’m not saying u won’t probably do well if u never face these kinds of hardships bt like u parents coming out of these kinds of places makes surviving in America like child’s play because uve been through worse.

Some Struggles no be mate!!! If that’s what u want to here I’ve said it. U can compare Newyork fast place life to Texas or LA. It’s something similar to that.

When I say no struggle is superior I’m being diplomatic because All struggle is relatively meaningful bt they are not mates.

DO U UNDERSTAND

Most people on this thread haven’t got a clue as to what they are on about. How you reach the conclusion that a continent that produces more criminals, rapists, drug dealers, terrorists, bandits, scammers and thugs is better to raise a child baffles me. If you raise a child in a more violent and wartorn region how is that better as opposed to raising them in a stable, rich and prosperous part of the world. How do you expect to get a good result?

Western countries in particular the USA have the crime they do because of Africans/Blacks. Black Americans are only 14% of the US population but are well over 50% of homicides. In other western countries, Africans and Carribeans contribute disproportionately to the crime in those regions. E.g in London the gangs there are mostly Carribean or African.

Richy4:
So which tradition impresses you the most.. the European or Asian?...

Before u answer me, I will suggest you google the meaning of tradition/ culture first...

This is because there's no way I will take none for an answer.

Those parts of the world aren’t traditional particularly Europe. Most of Europe is extremely liberal, progressive and highly secular.

Acidosis:
There is no society without traditions. You're either here or there. You can't be nowhere. If you don't sleep with the opposite sex (someone else's idea), you'll sleep with your gender (another person's idea). If you don't like agbada (someone's tradition), you'll like corporate wears (another man's tradition). No middle grounds at all. Just low self-esteem and acculturation doing their thing on a helpless African. It is not about your "hate".

He has a point. Tradition ruined Africa. This whole idea of trying to live like your ancestors brought nothing more than pain and suffering. Look at Africa right now.

HellVictorinho8:
such posts shud be declined

within the nigerian cyberspace


anyone choosing whites ahead of blacks 4 whatever job just bcuz of the mentality of them being superior has 2 be jailed 4 thirty years


spits

So which Black Country is doing well?

NONE

JagabanB:

Gaddafi had over 40 years, he didn't ignite the revolution Mao ignited.

Gaddafi had the potential to be another Mao.

mysticwarrior:
Afghanistan were not producing their own weapons but yet the held the soviets to a standstill and eventually forcing them to retreat.

The USA invaded Afghanistan and again the American were faced by a bitter Afghan resistance which lasted for 20 years untill the US fled from that country without their weapons.

Ethiopia was were not manufacturing their own weapons but yet they defeated the Italians in the battle of Adwa in 1896. Vietnam wasn't fabricating weapons but the north Vietnamese forces defeated the US forces during the Vietnam war.

In military history it wouldn't be fare to ascertain the outcome of warfare by giving the advantage to oneside after judging from the self production of weaponry by one party over the other.

Most of what you said is not true, in the Vietnam war. Only 60,000 Americans vs millions of Vietnamese. Look at this conversation,
“You know, you never defeated us on the battlefield,' Col. Summers said. 'That may be so,' Col. Tu replied, 'but it's also irrelevant”

The US loses war because of its politicians. You can’t match American muscle on the battlefield. It’s not possible. That country is still way too powerful. You beat them with diplomacy and guerilla tactics. That’s how Vietnam, Afghanistan sent the Americans packing. The US could kill those countries with a sneeze.

KnowAll:


Does tourist have a colour colo mentality if a white man does not clutch a couple of dollars in his hand that means we don’t have tourist. So all those Nigerians comming home are E gun gun calabar. Abeg go sleep.

No one here is talking about a white man. You are.the point is Nigeria doesn’t receive anywhere as many tourists as its African neighbours. I provided proof of that. You can’t compare Nigeria to Egypt, South Africa, Algeria and so on when it comes to tourism. You’ve rambled on about nonsense.

JagabanB:

That was China before Mao Zhedong, what African countries need is a Mao.
The Chinese never thought this was going to happen before Mao.
Our own Mao may break Nigeria into bits and grow his part.

You could say the Mao was Gaddafi but Uncle Sam took him out.
Africa sucks when it comes to leaders. Look at all the protests and riots happening allover Africa. I don’t think the continent can produce a Mao.

KnowAll:


The tourist in Nigeria are Nigerians in diaspora and a few millions come home every year with their dollars, pounds and Euros. And most stay in many of these hotels knowing there is no power in the country and any kind of moderate comfort can be got in this hotels.

Is it because you don’t see oyinbo’s trooping to Nigeria that u think there is no tourist in Nigeria. I once traveled to Namibia & d plane was 99% Germans going to Namibia. And I said to my fellow traveler a Black Namibian, your people don’t travel. I said if it was a flight to Nigeria it would be 99% blacks.

The fact that smaller, poorer and weaker nations are getting more tourists than Nigeria is wild.

OurTruth:
This is a subject that actually kickstarted my desire to seek knowledge, to engage in honest research and to learn. I have researched this subject for many years and I've gathered a lot of information as to why black African countries are not up to the level of their western and eastern counterparts

This journey is going to be visual, as I will post many pictures to back up the written information I'll put forward, so if you love pictures and art, this is going to be entertaining for you.

This subject matter is very sensitive, so I'll try to thread carefully. In that vein, I want everyone reading this to know that the information I'm putting forward doesn't come from a place of racism, prejudice or hatred of the west or of black Africans.

I'm a black and proud Nigerian and I want my people to know the truth. That's my only motivation for making this thread.

Let's begin.

Because Africa doesn’t want to move forward. They want to live like their ancestors 😂

KnowAll:


Hotel room is different from hotels.

True but I still think it’s irrelevant as to whom have more hotels because that has nothing to do with GDP.

What’s the point of having hotels that are mostly empty and a non-existent tourist industry.

Nigeria is nowhere to be found on that tourist list. The only people visiting Nigeria are those in the diaspora. Otherwise, wtf would want to come to a country like that?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/261740/countries-in-africa-ranked-by-international-tourist-arrivals/

The reality is that the country’s GDP has halved not what you and the economist with 2 brain among eachother have said. IMF puts the GDP at around $250 billion.

JagabanB:

Nigeria will never be like Haiti or Burundi.
Presently like China before Mao.
If Nigeria is going the path of Haiti, it won't be able to have 500m people in 40 years.
Nigeria is actually at a critical point and it will stay at this point for the next 10-15 years, that's the make or break point, it's either it gets made or gets broken into fragments.

It can’t even support its current population. No African country is going to get made. When you look at the history of countries that industrialised. You see the factors that contributed to their industrialisation such as strong rule of law, functioning institutions, low corruption etc don’t exist in any African country and ultimately never will.

Africa will never be the next China. Asians and Whites still run Nigeria and Africa at large. China is responsible for much of Africa’s industrial development.World powers invest in this continent because of geopolitical competition not because they see this continent as a potential industrial power.

Africa’s attempts to rival Western/Eastern societies will be met with a failure.

FreeStuffsNG:


https://nairametrics.com/2023/07/21/nigeria-maintains-largest-african-economy-for-fifth-year-in-a-row-as-egypt-catches-up/

Nigeria was only the 2nd largest economy last year. Egypt was the biggest.

https://www.capmad.com/economy-en/ranking-of-african-countries-by-gdp-in-2023/

JagabanB:

Do you realize that African economies are deteriorating rather than growing?
Every economy in Africa is as good as sh*t and whatever everyone is doing is permutations.

I agree even SA is economically doomed but not as doomed as Nigeria. And it’s worse because the population growth is not sustainable. The country can’t even sustain its current citizens and I believe Nigeria will have like 500 million people in the next 40 years and naira is devaluing. The country is going down the path of Haiti and Burundi.