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Cousin9999:
Since y'all are talking about Botswana, let me take this opportunity to post:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAHAelD2A1E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvaUDTzQVSA

Lol it’s just as degenerate as other black societies. You think ghetto music videos like that mean anything?

Everything there is is foreign built and imported 😂😂

Blacks just wine whilst the rest of the world produces and innovates. What does that add to society?

Derekmiles:
India has more people on Earth than every other country.

India is just because of overpopulation😂😂😂. More people to cater to the investments, and even then, the FDI per capita is still wack😂😂😂... If India was at 2.5 Million, that country would have been destroyed by now pooping people😂😂😂.

And still no comment on the non existent innovation and tech scene in Botswanna 😂😂 South Africa innovates more than it but that’s just because of the Asians and whites there 😂😂

Derekmiles:
😂😂😂, Netherlands is an extremely amazing Nation, have you seen its standard of living, Netherlands is not even in the same league as noth😂😂😂... Job creation you say?, when the infrastructure will be able to be accessed by less per capita😂😂😂.

"Just accept it man, India is not only better to live but also is far more desired by investors. A resource based economy that doesn’t innovate or produce anything is successful?"

😂😂😂, your projections can't even equate to mini Botswana, dude is talking about deflection... I've not seen anyone outside of you that called FDI per capita as useless😂😂😂. 4× is not a joke, the FDI of Botswana will be able to get a broader reach per it population than India would; accept this man, your India is terrible to live in.

I never said Holland wasn’t better.

FDI per capita is meaningless here. Botswana has little FDI because it’s a terrible market to invest into. Why invest into a country that produces and innovates nothing? At least Indians and Asians are actually producing something 😂😂

Derekmiles:
India has more people on Earth than every other country.

India is just because of overpopulation😂😂😂. More people to cater to the investments, and even then, the FDI per capita is still wack😂😂😂... If India was at 2.5 Million, that country would have been destroyed by now pooping people😂😂😂.

So why does Netherlands have more FDI inflow than India?

More prosperous countries have higher FDIs not because of the population but because their economies are stronger, better to invest in etc. why would someone invest into Botswana? A country that quite literally produces and innovates NOTHING😂😂 even South Africa has bigger tech scene than shitty Botswana

Derekmiles:
India has more people on Earth than every other country.

India is just because of overpopulation😂😂😂.

Much if not like half or most of the scientists, doctors etc in the west are from India. Silicon Valley is just Indians, Chinese and Eastern Europeans now😂 you have a hard time accepting that their intelligence makes blacks looks like monkeys 😂

Nigeria should have high stem grads based on that logic. Indians and Asians are generally smarter than the rest of the world. Botswanna and Other black countries are dumb.

I will crush that your useless black pride 😂😂

Derekmiles:
"You just resort to per capita"... Dude resorted to per capita on the migration when it thought it will favour him, please why did you resort to per capita that time please?, i genuinely want to know?. Nothing has been debunked, because everyone thinks you're delulu, analysts think that... You talk about reality, you've lied constantly here, that is literally going against reality😂😂😂.

I said India is more desired by migrants. A high net migration rate doesn’t mean the country is desirable. That’s just because it has a tiny population. But India is far more desirable particularly to international mignrats. I debunked you on that and the same with per capita.

But you’ve yet to talk about the non existent tech scene in Botswana. India produces far more STEM grads in total than almost any other country on earth. Much of the STEM Grads In western countries are Indian😂

Derekmiles:
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Useless😂😂😂. No it isn't, this shits are not hard to find you know.

Yes, foreign direct investment (FDI) per capita can be important because it can indicate a country's economic freedom, political stability, and prosperity. Countries with higher FDI per capita are often classified as "free" on the Freedom Index.

Not even my words... It is important, and Botswana is 4× better.

I couldn't even for the Japanese own... Japanese suicide rate is not even that as of this year and last, but keep on going, like i said, i will see how a Nairaland user will keep on yapping against the words of analysts.

FDI total is more important because it reflects the overall amount of foreign investment entering the country, which can drive broader economic growth, infrastructure development, and job creation. In larger economies, total FDI is a better indicator of the scale of foreign investment and its ability to influence sectors like manufacturing, technology, and services across the entire economy.

Foreign investors do not care about Botswana.

And don’t even give me rubbish like population excuses. Netherlands is 17 million people but it’s FDI is like several times higher than India 😂😂

Just accept it man, India is not only better to live but also is far more desired by investors. A resource based economy that doesn’t innovate or produce anything is successful?😂

Derekmiles:
Tech scene as qualification for Primitive 😂😂😂... Close to half of Indians shit on the street, Half can't even access any Internet, not to talk of tech; this dude really doesn't understand what efficiency means.

The technology of India Asia is light years ahead of Botswana and Africa. You’re talking about access to said technology not the quality itself. You are full of deflections. Botswana people have high access to primitive technology😂😂

I proved India is safer, infinitely more advanced and sophisticated, more influential, wealthier, industrious etc.

All of Botswana advantages are debunkable. You just resort to per capita.

Derekmiles:
Most countries hasn't sent someone or something to the moon, are they primitive 🤦🤦🤦, this guy's criterias actually amuses me.

There aren't even up to 5 Countries that has sent anything to the moon. You just keep waffling, because you're done... I guess most of the world are primitive then... Your criterias are wack, that's why most analysts will laugh at you.

By the way, the data wasn't even there, he just keeps on lying.😂😂😂

No I was comparing the tech and science feats of Botswana to India. They are non existent compared to india. You keep saying my criteria wack. Yet I’ve proven that jndia is safer, infinitely more advanced, powerful? Industrious etc

Derekmiles:
I sent you a thread about Japan talking about their depression, this isn't even shocking, it is in the news. If depression is the criteria for success, then there are several countries that needs a word.

Bro, you started with the ler capita when you talked about "That's why India has a better migration per capita than Botswana"... You bring all this topic, i just follow you; and by the way, are you crazy, of course Per capita is important, is the country being lived in by aliens?.

Much of the Japanese people on that thread debunked it

You hear more about the suicide rate because there are less "extreme" news stories filling the newspapers/TV and internet. In reality, Japan is ranked 49th in suicide rate worldwide below places like The US(31st), Belgium(35th), Finland(38th), Sweden(47th). While it could be lower, it's not that far off of the global average. Japan(12.2 per 10,000) Worldwide(10.5 per 10,000)

They said Japan is not that bad

I believe in a bogus theory, but reality contradicts it. Why doesn’t reality adhere to my beliefs?”

Read that thread

FDI per capita is useless because it doesn’t change the fact that Botswana receives little to no investment because foreign investors couldn’t care less about Botswana.

Derekmiles:
Because those reviews were from 2021 and you stated that WPR was 2022

I stated that they said their most recent review in general is from 2022... They didn't even f*cking have the data on Botswana, that makes every other review valid compared to yours.

"What about the roads being more dangerous than Nigeria and India?"

I agree to this, more traffic deaths on average... But you deem that as a sign of not being successful, then several Nations that you will call successful will need to have a discussion with you, because you will have to deem them less successful than India.

That data for Botswana was from 2022 though

And at least you’ve admitted that their TFT is worse. and it’s not just their dangerous roads that makes them not successful. It’s the primitive lifestyle. Botswanna has no tech scene of its own. You admitted that India is infinitely more advanced and sophisticated. How can a country with inferior technology be mroe successful? African tech is in the dark ages compared to the rest of the world. India and the rest of Asia is at least 50-100 years ahead of Africa. Indian tech scene is rivalling the west. Tell me when Botswana sends someone or something to the moon or accomplishes similar science or tech feats 😂😂. It literally can’t. It’s impossible and never will.

Derekmiles:
70 Billion USD per capita is $50 dollars to 1.4 Billion people... 500 Million is $200 per 2.5 million people. You actually think that most analysts agreeing that Botswana is successful are wrong?. A nairaland user of all people; Wow, i will see how long you will last, the country is efficiently way more adequate for its population than India ever is.

The thing is you convinced yourself that it’s MOST ANALYSTS🤣 I sent you a thread of Botswana people insulting their country talking about how unhappy and depressing it is.

And now your resorting to per capita 😂😂

The country cannot even provide its citizens with constant power. The fact that you admitted that Indian/Asian lifestyle is technologically superior to Botswana proves my point. Botswanna lifestyle ike Africa is primitive. Their technology is nascent to that of India and Asia. They don’t innovate or produce anything 😂😂

Derekmiles:
Botswana has slow Broadband, 50% of Indians can't even access any broadband.

I wholeheartedly agreed to the 28%, i know this... You refused to accept India's serious Loadshedding issues in their cities, trying to compare it to the west😂😂😂.

"You didn’t want to accept that Botswana based on world population review has more dangerous streets than Nigeria"

This is were you even shot yourself in the foot more, claiming 2024, there is not even Botswana there... You didn't want to accept that every other review proved you wrong😂😂😂.

‘Botswana has slow Broadband, 50% of Indians can't even access any broadband’

Again rural vs urban issue
What about the roads being more dangerous than Nigeria and India?

‘I wholeheartedly agreed to the 28%, i know this... You refused to accept India's serious Loadshedding issues in their cities, trying to compare it to the west😂😂😂’.

India like every other non sub Saharan African country is still able to provide its citzens with a constant and reliable supply of power.
Experiencing an occasional power outage is better than not having any electricity at all😂

This is were you even shot yourself in the foot more, claiming 2024, there is not even Botswana there... You didn't want to accept that every other review proved you wrong😂😂😂

Because those reviews were from 2021 and you stated that WPR was 2022.

Derekmiles:
Deflecting again i see... Dude went from per capita to smaller population based, but undermined anything i said regarding India's overpopulation😂😂😂. I will reiterate, India have a global influence doesn't isn't spectacular when the population size comes into question, India having an absolute GDP of $3+ Trilllion is crap when the population comes into question.

How is it deflection? India takes in more migrants and is more desirable than Botswana. Compare the FDI of the two, India is 70 billion USD and Botswana is not even 500 million USD

How can Africans be talking about overpopulation?😂

An economy that is $3 trillion and produces much of what we use and is forecasted to Rival the US and China

Botswana is an irrelevant shithole. Face it

Derekmiles:
More Emotional BS i see.

Hmm, responded to all or almost all... The best you had was Violence, which i agreed that Botswana was more violent.

I've caught you lies now about 5-10 times, this is the most recent one. It's like you're just getting more desperate to prove a point, and everytime, it just tuns to lies. I would expect that from someone that thinks Analysts are lying, but he is right.

The best I had was violence but what about 30% of the country not having electricity?

What about the roads being mroe dangerous than Nigeria

Slow broadband internet. Even when you compared the mobile internet, it was still slow

You even admitted that Botswana is not an industrialised country but India is.

The country produces nothing of value but criminals 😂
I ain’t getting more desperate you are. You look for ways to undermine the information I bring towards you. You didn’t want to accept that Botswana based on world population review has more dangerous streets than Nigeria

Derekmiles:
Botswana had a migrant per capita last year of 2.4 per 1000 people, India was 0.12 per 1000 people, you just keep shooting yourself on the foot.

A higher per capita rate doesn’t mean Botswana attracts more migrants overall—it reflects its smaller population base. Botswana’s per capita migration rate reflects a localized phenomenon rather than global appeal or influence. When comparing absolute influence, diversity, and global appeal, India remains far ahead of Botswana. Per capita figures alone can mislead when applied without accounting for population size, migration diversity, and economic scale.
India is not only better in most regards but is also mroe desired. My guy resorted per capita where else India takes in far more migrants from all off the world than Botswana😂

Derekmiles:
Botswana had a migrant per capita last year of 2.4 per 1000 people, India was 0.12 per 1000 people, you just keep shooting yourself on the foot.

And you didn’t do shit but waffle. You didn’t respond to most of my points here 😂😅

Derekmiles:
😂😂😂, mass illegal migration doesn't occur in successful Nation.

You've lost a long time ago when you said that analysts were wrong... Your recent migration fact has still been debunked. I am actually tired of debunking now😂😂😂.

When did I ever say India was a paradise? You said Botswana was successful. And you didn’t debunk nada about recent migration. It’s mostly Africans going to Botswana. Foreigners don’t go 😂😂 India is more desired by the local community and wins in most QOL metrices

Derekmiles:
Botswana had a migrant per capita last year of 2.4 per 1000 people, India was 0.12 per 1000 people, you just keep shooting yourself on the foot.

Botswanna only wins per capita
India has far more immigrants than Botswana in absolute terms due to its massive population and its status as a regional hub:
• India: Approximately 5.2 million immigrants (as of 2015).
• Botswana: Approximately 110,268 immigrants (as of 2020).

Per Capita Terms:
Botswana has a significantly higher proportion of immigrants relative to its smaller population:
• India: Immigrants account for about 0.37% of the population (as of 2015).
• Botswana: Immigrants account for about 4.6% of the population (as of 2020)

The majority of immigrants in Botswana come from neighboring countries in the Southern African region. Here’s an overview:
1. Zimbabwe – By far the largest source of immigrants in Botswana. Many Zimbabweans move to Botswana for better economic opportunities and to escape political and economic instability.
2. South Africa – Due to close proximity and shared history, a significant number of South Africans live and work in Botswana.
3. Namibia – Shared borders facilitate migration for work and family reunification.
4. Zambia and Malawi – Smaller groups from these countries migrate for jobs, often in agriculture or informal sectors.
5. Other African Nations – Immigrants from countries like Angola, Kenya, and the Democratic Republic of Congo form smaller communities

Absolutely, India has a far more diverse immigrant population compared to Botswana, which reflects its geographic size, economic opportunities, cultural richness, and geopolitical significance. Here’s why:

India’s Diverse Immigrants:
• Regional Pull: India serves as a hub for South Asian migration, attracting people from neighboring countries like Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, Myanmar, and Sri Lanka.
• Global Reach: Unlike Botswana, India attracts immigrants from all over the world, including:
• Africa: Students and professionals from Nigeria, Kenya, and Sudan.
• Europe: Diplomats, expatriates, and business professionals.
• Americas: People working in multinational corporations, NGOs, or studying in India.
• Tibet and Afghanistan: Refugees seeking asylum.
• Education and Business: India’s educational institutions and growing economy attract professionals, particularly from developing nations.
• Cultural and Historical Ties: Long-standing relationships with various regions (e.g., Indo-Tibetan, Indo-Afghan) have resulted in generations of settled communities.

Botswana’s Immigrants:
• Regional Dominance: Most of Botswana’s immigrants come from neighboring Southern African countries, particularly Zimbabwe, Namibia, and South Africa, often seeking jobs in mining, agriculture, or domestic work.
• Limited Diversity: Due to its smaller economy and limited global connectivity, Botswana does not attract a significant number of immigrants outside its immediate region.

Conclusion:

India’s immigrant population is significantly more diverse than Botswana’s. While Botswana’s immigration is almost entirely regional, India’s global connections and status as a major power attract a mix of students, professionals, refugees, and workers from nearly every corner of the world.

I’m sorry but wtf would want to live in Botswana. People go there to buy their diamonds. People
From allover the world go India like China to invest etc😂😂

Derekmiles:
Then that means by safety standards, Ghana is better to live in than India.

But it is though, Ghana is safer. The same way India based on safety is better than Botswana. If you even picked Nambia or South Africa. I would have given you the benefit of the doubt. But Botswana? Your delusional man. Newsflash High violent crime doesn’t occur in a successful country

Derekmiles:
Objective QOL information that places Botswana as a relatively high standard of living country... Wow, Analysts are right in everything, but wrong in this particular one. Just accept your delusion.

Who says analysts are right in everything? An analysts opinion is irrelevant.
Like what?

Their high crime stats

Their higher suicide rate

30% of their population not having electricity. The rest being epileptic.

Their roads are more dangerous than Nigeria. You never tried to undermine the TFR rate stat which is interesting 😂

High unemployment

Diamond extracting based economy. Produces nothing of value

High income inequality

Terrible infrastructure

Terrible healthcare

Slow internet

Terrible public transport

Botswana is a shithole and a terrible country to live 😂 that’s why no one migrates there unless for touristic purposes 😂😂

Derekmiles:
You've not answered, it depends is simplicity BS, you're not a politician; you made a straightforward damning statement, you won't deflect with diplomacy... You've not answered the question, from your own logic, answer the goddamn question, yes or no?.

I did answer the question, it actually depends on what one values. If they value money and opportunities, the US is better. But safety? It’s India. I told you that success is subjective and even QOL to a certain extent is. But when you look at objective QOL information, India is far better

[quote author=Derekmiles post=133469337][/quote]Much of that thread debunked the myths surrounding Japan
‘While Japan's suicide rate is higher than average, it is not especially high. Japan's rate is lower than "happy" countries like Finland. It's lower than South Korea, the United States, Sweden, Belgium, India, and a load of African countries. It is listed as 49th out of 183’

‘I believe in a bogus theory, but reality contradicts it. Why doesn’t reality adhere to my beliefs?”

‘You hear more about the suicide rate because there are less "extreme" news stories filling the newspapers/TV and internet. In reality, Japan is ranked 49th in suicide rate worldwide below places like The US(31st), Belgium(35th), Finland(38th), Sweden(47th). While it could be lower, it's not that far off of the global average. Japan(12.2 per 10,000) Worldwide(10.5 per 10,000)’

Just stop
At this point man😂 Brudda you’ve lost 😂😂

Just accept that Botswana regardless of what an analysts says is a shithole hence why India receives more immigrants per capita and in absolute terms. Who the Bleep wants to live in botswanna? Gross 😂😂

Derekmiles:
Answer me, i won't let this slide... Is India better to live in than the U.S, and is Ghana better to live in than India?... Your deflection won't work this time.

I’ve already answered. And the answer is it actually depends. People can actually see a poorer country as better to live because it is safer.the US is not civilised for a developed country.

Now answer this question, is an extremely violent country successful and good to live?

Derekmiles:
😂😂😂, listen again, in most of their reviews... I didn't even see Botswana, bro, you are cooked😂😂😂. You lie so much, i gave about 5 sources that are actually shown, you tried to even say that Macrotrends went by ranges😂😂😂, bro, come on, you can't be this stupid to try and make a point😂😂😂.

The thread is called why is Botswana unhappy. You will find any way to spin whatever I present to you 😂

https://www.reddit.com/r/Botswana/comments/wld45c/why_is_botswana_so_unhappy/?rdt=55060

Which country are they speaking about then? Why is it in the Botswana Reddit thread

Derekmiles:
"You can’t tell me that country x is better to live in than Y when X is far far more dangerous 😂"

This is exactly what you wrote, it is straightforward, but it comes it logic... You are foolish if you think i will let this slide... Now i expect a straightforward answer, you must accept today that your criterias are wack. Idiot who thinks he's better than actual analysts.

Actual analysts? Anyone can say that a coutnry is successful. That doesn’t make it true.
I already told you that the US is about as uncivilised as a developing country 😂

Derekmiles:
I do agree that the U.S has issues, my question was simple, is India better to live in than the U.S?, and is Ghana better to live in than India?... It's a simple yes or No question going by your very own logic.

You gave a statement that comes with logic to try and be damning, i expect a simple answer.

Safer countries are more civilised countries. Botswana is barbaric. And yes the US is about as civilised as a developing country. Many people could see India as better place to live than the west in certain ways. India is safer.

But again continue to support highly criminal countries like botswanna 😂

Macrotrends typically uses historical data and trends, often with a slight lag. While it can provide valuable insights into long-term trends, its data may not always be as up-to-date as sources like World Population Review (WPR), which strives to include the most recent available figures. In the case of Botswana’s homicide rate, WPR’s 2022 data is likely more current than Macrotrends if Macrotrends hasn’t updated their data in recent years.

Derekmiles:
I do agree that the U.S has issues, my question was simple, is India better to live in than the U.S?, and is Ghana better to live in than India?... It's a simple yes or No question going by your very own logic.

You gave a statement that comes with logic to try and be damning, i expect a simple answer.

I never said safety alone determines QOL but it’s a big factor. It’s not just that Botswanna is more dangerous but less modernised, weaker etc

Derekmiles:
"You can’t tell me that country x is better to live in than Y when X is far far more dangerous 😂".

This if from your own logic now; Is India better to live in than the U.S?... Is Ghana better to live in than India?... This is how logic works.

And i did respond on the WPR review, it says they've not updated their review since 2022 in the front page of their website😂😂😂... I then ask you "Where the hell are you getting your stats. from Mr Liar?"... I have replied and debunked that nonsense since, how can you claim something is from 2024 , and they literally said non of their review is past 2022😂😂😂. I didn't even see the Botswana rating, bro, where are you getting your stats. from😂😂😂. I can show my stats., you can't show yours.

Even when you we use that, you’re still wrong. 2022 is more recent then 2021

You see what I mean about undermining statistics? I never said safety alone is the most important factor of QOL but a big one. A big one that you’re undermining. At least you haven’t tried how much more dangerous botswana is compared to jndia.
Nobody wants to live in a country that is extremely violent like botswanna 😂

Derekmiles:
"You can’t tell me that country x is better to live in than Y when X is far far more dangerous 😂".

This if from your own logic now; Is India better to live in than the U.S?... Is Ghana better to live in than India?... This is how logic works.

Obviously, QOL is multifaceted but safety is definitely a big role here.

I already told you that the US is a third world country wearing Prada. It’s a shithole for first world standards and that’s not just because of lack of safety but terrible healthcare, education etc for the modern world.
Much of the US’s crime is down to blacks. The black Americans you’ve been defending so much do like 50% of the homicides. Bro the data proving that blacks are inherently more violent Is too much 😂😂😂🤣. Yet you will never concede to that. Many people will see America as a worse place to live than developing countries because it isn’t safe. America is wealthier than Canada or the UK but us crime dwarfs.
Many people will see the US as worse than developing countries because of how unsafe it is. You can’t be successful and you can’t provide safety. Safety is one of the most important things in life🤣

Derekmiles:
"Inherently" means characteristic, that makes those points very valid... Understand the English you use😂😂😂.

I can't take criticism?😂😂😂, i have not once here denied the crime issues in Botswana, i literally talked about it, and even called out your data BS; your emotional BS doesn't make you valid😂😂😂.... You that can't even admit that open defecation is a serious issue in India because it goes against your Primitive rhetoric😂😂😂, and i can't take criticism?😂😂😂. There are so many more😂😂😂.

BLACKS ARE INHERENTLY VIOLENT. Accept it, botswna is certainly better at killing peoples

Derekmiles:
"Inherently" means characteristic, that makes those points very valid... Understand the English you use😂😂😂.

I can't take criticism?😂😂😂, i have not once here denied the crime issues in Botswana, i literally talked about it; your emotional BS doesn't make you valid.... You that can't even admit that defecation is a serious issue in India😂😂😂, and i can't take criticism?😂😂😂.

Inherently which is obviously based on the modern society. Based on modern trends, Botswana and other black countries are inherently more violent as their crime stats are worse.

And you clearly can’t take criticism. You downplayed the crime issue in Botswana. You used data from 2021 to convince me it’s lower 😂😂
If you want to a support of violent criminals.then so be it. Why didn’t you respond about the WPR review? You realised I was right?🤣 and it’s from 2024 and puts their homicide rate at 25.

I said defacation is an issue but that violent crime is a bigger issue. Killing innocent people is a much bigger issue than defecating onto the streets

Like how I conceded that India has a worse defactiaon issue but you have yet to concede that botswanna is a violent country. You’re looking at ways to undermine it. You can’t tell me that country x is better to live in than Y when X is far far more dangerous 😂