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Derekmiles:
And why do you keep saying Africa, i have never not said that many African countries are a shithole... You try to twist a point by going for the entire continent😂😂😂; we are talking about Botswana, stop deferring with Africa, that's why i told you that Africa is a continent with 54 countries and continents, clumping all of them together to make a point about a country is incredibly stupid. South America and a large part of India looks dark as hell.

Wow the black cope from you is so crazy😂

1) South America’s population is a third of Africa. It’s not going to be as densely packed as Africa nowhere, the vast majority of it is empty. And India is dark?😂 stop lying and you’ve again dodged what i said about Africa. The overwhelming majority of Africa was pitch black on that map😂
https://www.nairaland.com/2668093/photo-africa-europe-night-space

And one of those images is from the NASA observatory.

2) all of the sub Saharan African countries are shitholes. They don’t even have constant electricity😂

3) no part of the world is as bad as any sub Saharan African country. Nope never in a trillion years and that includes Botswana. Thus, I’m not deflecting as ALL SUB SAHARAN African countries are PRIMITIVE, WASTELANDS. And that is not a generalisation.

Derekmiles:
"Loadshedding and power outages in India is almost entirely down to Natural disasters, equipment failure etc like the west"

😂😂😂, this is literally completely false😂😂😂... Who the f*ck do you actually think you're talking to right now, you are going to spill that BS and think i will believe, India's Loadshedding issues has almost always been about the power sector not being capable of the growing demand.

It’s for similar reasons as western countries demand-supply imbalances, aging infrastructure and extreme weather. But for you to conclude that India doesn’t have constant power where else 100% of Indians enjoy a constant power supply of Botswana as opposed to only 70% of Botswana that does is crazy. India does have constant and a reliable supply of power. It’s no less reliable or constant than Brazil, Chile, Argentina etc. yeah India’s grid technology is not quite at the level of its competitors but it’s getting there.

Botswana and Africa is not getting there at all. Almost everyone that lives without electricity on earth is located in Africa. Don’t you understand much of Botswana and Africa still uses things like firewood to live off?😂AFRICA IS THE ONLY PART OF THE WORLD WITH NO CONSTANT POWER.

India has stable, power supply. No Sub Saharan African country has a stable or constant power supply as none of them are close to or at 100% electricity access.

You just don’t want to admit that blacks can’t build a society. Why is it so hard for you? Is the black pride really that toxic?😂😂

Derekmiles:
This dude is comparing Loadshedding in a bluemoon, some caused by disasters, and almost everyday Loadshedding😂😂😂.

I’ll say this once and I won’t stop until you acknowledge it.
THE ABSENCE OF CONSTANT POWER IS EXCLUSIVELY AN AFRICAN PROBLEM. No other part of the world doesn’t have constant power. All other continents and regions do EXCEPT AFRICA. I won’t stop posting these satellite maps that you conveniently ignored showing Africa as mostly pitch black. Constant electricity is something that was achieved decades ago. Africa is the only left not to have it and that obviously includes Botswana. You lost the internet speed comparison and now this?
😂

You underestimate as to how bad Africa really is 😂

Derekmiles:
From the mouths of the Indians themselves, a Nigerian is more deluded than Indians on the Indian's own country... The worst thing you did was actually mentioning India, the country in Asia i've done the most research on due to the friends i have in that region, that's were your BS started; you could have gone with China and i wouldn't have said shit, but not India. I know that country too much for someone to start twisting narratives for me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/1djl9v3/giving_a_reality_check_on_life_in_this_country/.

I never said India didn’t have problems but that it’s nowhere as bad as sub Saharan Africa that can’t even provide constant power. The worst thing you did was trying to compare black and
Asian potential.
They shouldn’t even be on the same line or sentence. And again, you’ve gone back to anecdotal rubbish.

Derekmiles:
This dude is comparing Loadshedding in a bluemoon, some caused by disasters, and almost everyday Loadshedding😂😂😂.

In a blue moon? They literally happen every summer in California and Texas. I’ve seen on YouTube videos every year about whether those states can handle the demand because of the weather. Loadshedding and power outages in India is almost entirely down to Natural disasters, equipment failure etc like the west. Granted, it’s far worse in India but it’s nothing like Africa. Botswana electricity is actually not that much more stable than Nigeria😂
I told you before that’s it’s only African countries that don’t have stable power. The rest of the world has constant electricity.
30% of them have never seen electricity in their life 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You just don’t want to accept that Africa is primitive

Derekmiles:
😂😂😂, India too doesn't have constant power... Many India cities experience Loadshedding, some seriously. I know very well about the Indian power sector, this isn't some shit that you can twist, i told you, i literally have friends there.

You’re a dummy, every coutnry has loadshedding. In America states like Florida, Texas and California, they have loadhshedding. They usually have to turn off the grid or reduce its loads during times of extreme weather or the summer.
that’s like saying the UK doesn’t have constant power because they have outages. Any country with 100% access rate does have consistent power. You’re so foolish😂 and you still haven’t answered as to how a country where 30% has no electricity.

The UK very recently had loadshedding
https://www.power-technology.com/news/uk-grid-to-continue-load-shedding-measures-this-winter/#:~:text=The%20UK's%20National%20Grid%20Electricity,from%20Russia's%20invasion%20of%20Ukraine.

At this point, you’re just butthurt that Botswana like the rest of Africa is primitive.

Using your logic, the entire western world doesn’t have constant power as they have all had load shedding to a certain degree. That’s such a dumb way to view this.

And you still haven’t responded to the fact that 30% of Botswana has no electricity at all. They have never seen electricity before.

Derekmiles:
I do know the difference between broadband, and mobile network... The last i checked, Mobile network is still the most used, and 50% of Indians doesn't have access to any😂😂😂🤷🤷🤷.

I can't believe that an idiot will actually call a country were they have a defacation issue, Genital Mutilation issue, 50% can't even access the internet, close to half can't even access healthcare; and this dude compared them to a country where on average their citizens have a better standard of living😂😂😂... Bro, the average Indian citizen is not on the living levels of the average Botswanan citizen; India is literally a shithole, many Indians themselves don't deny this, but of course a Nairaland Nigerian will think differently, like i said, the analysts disagree with you, you are very much the exception on this.

Broadband internet is much more impressive. Most people do use broadband internet speeds when comparing internet speeds because they tend to provide more stable, higher-speed connections, especially for tasks like streaming, gaming, and large file transfers. This makes broadband the benchmark for high-quality internet access, particularly in developed nations. I honestly just searched up internet speeds and that’s what came up. You nitpicked

Derekmiles:
know the difference between broadband, and mobile network... The last i checked, Mobile network is still the most used, and 50% of Indians doesn't have access to any😂😂😂🤷🤷🤷.

It’s not about most used here, broadband data is more useful when you want to assess the performance of a country’s internet infrastructure for consistent, high-quality access, especially for non-mobile, heavier data usage.

And again 30% of Botswana doesn’t have electricity. It’s like you don’t realise you need electricity for internet. Electricity is the basic here, not internet and Botswana doesn’t have a constant power supply 😂

Derekmiles:
You just lied again by the way, Botswana internet speed isn't 8mbps, it is 44mbps, and India is 50+mbps😂😂😂... So its even way closer, and India lacks way behind in Internet access😂😂😂... I am actually tired of your pathetic lies now, i didn't even know this, i actually thought you were correct, i should have known better liar😂😂😂.

No it’s because you can’t distinguish data. India uses mostly 4G and 5G. Botswanna is mostly on 3G. Broadband and mobile internet aren’t the same thing.
When talking about comparing the data, broadband internet data is more useful because speeds generally reflect more consistent, high-performance internet access, especially for tasks requiring high bandwidth, and are more reliable for users in developed countries with established infrastructure. Broadband speed is more impressive than cellular.
And how’s that make you right? It’s still slower in Botswana 😂😂

And again when 1/3rd of your country has no electricity vs a country that’s fully electrified😂

Derekmiles:
The speedtest itself😂😂😂.

That’s mobile internet which is not the same thing as broadband. You don’t even know the differences In the data 😂😂

Derekmiles:
Botswana is actually ranked 62nd in the world😂😂😂... I swear, this dude gets his sources from like 2005 articles😂😂😂.

No and it still largely runs on 3G😂😂

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

Derekmiles:
You just lied again by the way, Botswana internet speed isn't 8mbps, it is 44mbps, and India is 50+mbps😂😂😂... So its even way closer, and India lacks way behind in Internet access😂😂😂... I am actually tired of your pathetic lies now.

Lies
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

Source
‘ This is a sortable list of broadband internet connection speed by country, ranked by Speedtest.net data for March 2024,[1] and with M-Lab data for June 2023[2’

Stop lying

India is 61.84 compared to Botswana of 8.84

Derekmiles:
"Again what’s the point of comparing Botswana internet that is some of the slowest on earth? To India? Quality is better than quantity. Botswanna is ranked 173 in internet speeds 😂 8 Mbps is what you want to brag about? You can’t do most things with internet that slow😂"

This is exactly what a dictator would say😂😂😂. They'd be like it doesn't matter if the rest can't get it, as far as some get it😂😂😂... Imagine saying that rubbish of quality is better than quantity in the matters of standard of living, are you a fool?. When the quality can't be of use to most, it is a basically useless shithole... About 50% of a Nation literally can't even access the Internet, and you still come on here yapping about tech, you really lack understanding of variables.

Now you’re deflecting. I told you that it’s because of the rural/urban divide. India’s rural internet penetration is rapidly improving. That’s not a dictator mentality.
8 Mbps internet and still having your country largely running on 3G is not better standard of living. How can you still say that it is? I’m still in laughter because I didn’t realise that Botswana had some of the slowest internet on earth. It’s barely faster than Burundi😂

Derekmiles:
* 5g is barely a thing, half of India's population doesn't even have 2g.

Every other thing you mentioned is literally still the mega in India... Let me put it this way; for example, if 400 Million people are doing alright out of 1.4 Billion, that still leaves out 1 Billion, that's a bad shithole ratio... That's why the population matters, every thing you mentioned is still majorly the way of India, and that's why nothing you've said have been spectacular. The standard of living is still crap for the most part, that is a sh*thole country.

Even if it is crap, it is still better than primitive botswanna and Africa. Bro just admit you’re wrong and it’s hilarious that you tried to compare the internet quality of Botswana vs India. Botswana still doesn’t have 5G. Heck, having done some research. 3G is still used more than 4G in Botswana 😂

3G networks remain the primary means of internet access for a large portion of the population, especially in rural areas where 4G infrastructure is still being developed

Indians are on 5G as rural internet improves and Botswana still largely uses 5G?

I love how quiet you are about Botswana’s internet speed average of mega bits per second. What’s the point of having internet if it’s constantly buffering and lagging?😂 Botswana internet is rubbish. 8 Mbps is barely enough for 1080p streaming 😂

Derekmiles:
"There is no Botswana tech, all of this is imported Asian/Chinese tech. Obviously, Indians have access to much better and more sophisticated technologies than a Botswana or Africa.Indians develop much of the technology we use 😂"

And yet the population has less on average per capita on most😂😂😂... Imagine calling a country sophisticated when half of the population doesn't even have access to the Internet. And i think you really need to research on India's power sector, because you going on and on about Electricity in India makes me laugh, because i know about their power sector.

100% of the Indian population has access to electricity but that doesn’t mean power outages occur. But it’s not the norm. Every country has power outages. Up to 30% of Botswana has no electricity whatsoever 😂 like it or not Indian electricity is constant, Botswana and Africa is epileptic. Your a fool you need electricity for the internet and millions of Botswanans have never seen electricity in their life before😂

No sub Saharan African country has constant power. Sub Saharan Africa is the only region on earth not to. You still didn’t respond to what I said about satellite images showing Africa to be mostly pitch black at night 😂

Imagine calling a country that is yet to have constant power as successful?

Again what’s the point of comparing Botswana internet that is some of the slowest on earth? To India? Quality is better than quantity. Botswanna is ranked 173 in internet speeds 😂 8 Mbps is what you want to brag about? You can’t do most things with internet that slow😂
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

Derekmiles:
Far more modernized, sophisticated?😂😂😂, yea, 1.4 Billion people to contain, do you even understand weighing all the variables at all?😂😂😂. The least they can do is get some global presence, if not, they would have completely been in the dumps😂😂😂.

So you’ve admitted that India and Asia is light years ahead.

But what variables are you on about?

There is nothing advanced about a Botswana or African lifestyle. Botswana and Africa is at least 100 years behind the rest of the world.


1. Internet Speeds

Botswana’s internet speeds are pretty slow, especially if you’re used to lightning-fast Wi-Fi elsewhere. Streaming Netflix in HD might come with a lot of buffering, and forget about playing online games without some frustrating lag. 8 Mbps is crazy in 2024.

2. 5G is Barely a Thing

Sure, there’s technically 5G in Botswana, but it’s only in a couple of cities, and most people aren’t even using it because the devices and plans are super expensive. A lot of folks are still relying on good old 3G or patchy 4G in many areas.

3. Cash is Still King

Digital payments aren’t as widespread. While apps like Orange Money and MyZaka are popular for mobile transfers, you’ll still find yourself reaching for cash at local markets or smaller shops where card readers are a rarity.

4. Rural Life is Old-School

In rural Botswana, life can feel like stepping back in time. Many people still cook with firewood, use candles or kerosene lamps for light, and fetch water from communal taps or wells. Forget Wi-Fi or internet most places don’t even have consistent electricity like up t

5. Public Transport is Bare Bones

There’s no fancy metro or ride-hailing apps like Uber in most places. If you’re traveling, it’s usually by minibus taxis, which can be cramped and irregular. Want to drive? Hope you’re ready for some potholes on the less-maintained roads
6. Tech Gadgets Are a Luxury

High-end smartphones, gaming consoles, or laptops? They’re available, but they’re crazy expensive compared to other countries. Many people stick to basic smartphones that get the job done without the bells and whistles

7. Limited Online Shopping

Don’t expect Amazon Prime or next-day delivery. While there are local e-commerce platforms, the selection is limited, and international shipping can take forever and cost a fortune.

8. Slow Adoption of Smart Tech

Things like smart homes, AI assistants, or electric cars are practically nonexistent for the average person. People are still using older tech appliances and vehicles that might feel outdated elsewhere.

9. Healthcare Tech is Basic

In many parts of Botswana, medical technology is limited. Modern diagnostic tools and equipment are mainly in private hospitals or urban centers, so rural clinics can feel very under-equipped.

10. Entertainment is Traditional

While urban areas have cinemas and some modern activities, a lot of entertainment in rural Botswana is rooted in traditional culture—community gatherings, dances, and storytelling, which is great culturally but feels “old-fashioned” if you’re used to tech-heavy lifestyles. Name anything of Africa that stacks up to Bollywood? Guess what you can’t 😂

Derekmiles:
It's so funny that you keep talking about tech... Dude, literally half the population of India don't even have access to the Internet you idiot, this is literally a fact, are you this stupid?. Botswanans tech for the most part is more adequate for it's population than India is to its population, this is shown in all the access levels.

Like i said, you sound like those dictators that will outwardly glamourise their country, while the people suffers... India is a shithole, a country were close to half its population don't even have access to healthcare is a sh*thole, a country were half the population can't even access the Internet is a sh*thole. A country is its people, not the other way around.

30% of Botswana has no electricity to speak of. Electricity is the basic here. That’s what technology runs on. Botswanna tech more adequate for the population? That’s absolute bull. Any country that still doesn’t have constant electricity like sub Saharan African countries do is by definition primitive. The internet was only discovered like in the 90s, it’s a much more modern invention than you think. Electricity was discovered like 200 years ago.

A country that has such bad infrastructure, technology is primitive. A country without constant power is primitive.

The internet speed of Botswana is 8 Mbps. India’s is over 60 like almost 8 times faster 😂
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

India having a lower internet penetration is because of the rural and urban divide but the actual Internet infrastructure is light years ahead of Botswana. 5G has a huge presence in India. It’s basically non-existent in Botswana.

There is no Botswana tech, all of this is imported Asian/Chinese tech. Obviously, Indians have access to much better and more sophisticated technologies than a Botswana or Africa.Indians develop much of the technology we use 😂

India and Asia is light years ahead of Botswana and Africa.

Derekmiles:
So 10k to 2.5 Million and 9 Million to 1.4 Billion... Still more overpopulation excuses BS; you always use the total numbers like it's spectacular in a country of 1.4 Billion people, and millions more abroad😂😂😂.

You don't see Botswanans globally in hospitals, Botswanans do not run en masse like Indians, they don't need to because their country is actually better in general standard of living😂😂😂.

You keep claiming that a country that’s nowhere as modernised and doesn’t even have constant electricity as having better quality of life? Whether we are comparing them inside and outside their countries, India outperforms Botswana and it’s not even close. India is far more modernised, Sophisticated and advanced. There is nothing advanced about Botswana. Like 5G in Botswana is almost non existent and in India it’s thriving. You lost this the moment you tried to compare black to Asian in intelligence and also black accomplishments in science and technology to that of Asians. You of all people know that with Botswana and any Black Country is paltry compared to the Asians in that regard. Paltry is even an understatement😂

Derekmiles:
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So Botswana needs to have a space program for its tech to not be primitive?😂😂😂... Then a lot of countries in Europe, South America have primitive techs then😂😂😂... Imagine quatifying amazing tech with a space program, even Indians are not this deluded, because i remember seeing many complain about the space program because their country was still a shithole😂😂😂.

You sound like those dictators that focuses on their Nation looking outwardly glamorous, while its people suffers, just saying🤷🤷🤷.

Europe does have a space program and so does South America.

The point is botswanna technology like Africa is primitive. Much of the country doesn’t even have electricity. How much more primitive do you want? Botswana can’t send people into space. Asian accomplishments in science and technology are starting to shit on the west. Yet you want to talk of Africa?😂

I think you deep down know Botswanna in terms of liftestyle and technology is primitive.

Botswanna is not a modernised society and thus primitive, no modernised society still relies on firewood and off grid power for electricity. Botswanna doesn’t have its own tech scene, nothing like what’s seen in India, UK, USA etc. not even close. Accept it that the blacks are a failed race. Botswanna definitely can’t send things into space. Its technology is nowhere that or even South Africa not to talk of India. it trails countries like South Africa, Kenya, and even Nigeria in tech adoption and modernization. African countries don’t really innovate, we don’t produce technology of our own. It’s a continent of importers. These Indians you hate so much of your technology, they are the ones running it. The CEOs of much of these tech giants like alphabet, X, Microsoft etc are Indian.

Derekmiles:
Everything you just quoted is still silly excuses brought on by a large population, large number of graduates?😂😂😂... Yes, of course, why won't they?😂😂😂.

India produces far more graduates per capita, particularly in STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics) fields, compared to Botswana. Here’s a detailed analysis:

India:
• STEM Education Output:
• India is one of the world’s largest producers of STEM graduates. According to recent estimates:
• India produces approximately 1 million STEM graduates annually.
• Per Capita: With a population of over 1.4 billion, the per capita STEM graduate output is lower compared to smaller countries, but the absolute numbers are staggering.
• Major institutions like the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) and National Institutes of Technology (NITs) are globally recognized for high-quality education in engineering and technology.
• Broader Graduate Output:
• India produces approximately 9 million graduates annually across all fields, including humanities, social sciences, and business.

Botswana:
• STEM Education Output:
• Botswana produces far fewer STEM graduates due to its small population (around 2.5 million).
• The country’s STEM graduate output is primarily driven by institutions like the University of Botswana and specialized technical colleges.
• Per Capita: Botswana has a higher per capita rate of tertiary education participation compared to many other African nations, but its STEM graduate numbers remain modest in comparison to India.
• Broader Graduate Output:
• Botswana produces fewer than 10,000 graduates annually across all fields, reflecting its smaller population and education system capacity.

Comparison (STEM Graduates Per Capita):
1. India: Produces 0.071 STEM graduates per capita annually.
• Highly skewed towards larger numbers in absolute terms.
• A significant percentage of Indian graduates migrate abroad for further studies or employment, particularly in STEM fields.
2. Botswana: Produces fewer STEM graduates (likely under 0.005 STEM graduates per capita) due to its smaller population and limited university capacity.

Conclusion:
• India dominates in absolute STEM graduate numbers and even in STEM graduates per capita, despite its large population.
• Botswana has a respectable education system relative to its size, but it does not compete with India’s global-scale STEM education output.

How I know you’re truly insane is comparing black and Asian intelligence. Asians are more intelligent than whites. Blacks are nowhere near.

It should be a crime to compare Asian and black brains. It’s like comparing chimpanzees and humans. Indians are far smarter than most people on earth. Asian intelligence stereotypes aside is higher than any other part of the world.

Whether it is maths, sciences etc, Indians will beat the hell out of any Botswana or generally most others on earth.

Chinese and Indians are the smartest people on earth. I don’t see Botswanans globally in hospitals, researchers, running tech giants like Alphabet, Meta etc

When comparing general academic performance between India and Botswana, India clearly outperforms Botswana in terms of academic scale, achievements in STEM fields, international recognition, and competition rankings. Below is an analysis of their academic systems, performance, and outcomes:

1. Educational Infrastructure and Access

India:
• Higher Education: India has over 1,000 universities and 40,000 colleges, offering a wide variety of academic programs. Institutions like the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs), Indian Institutes of Management (IIMs), and All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) are globally recognized.
• Enrollment: India has one of the largest higher education systems in the world, with over 40 million students enrolled annually.
• Global Rankings: Institutions like IITs and IIMs consistently rank among the top universities in global STEM and business education rankings.
• Literacy Rate: India’s literacy rate is about 77.7%, with urban areas performing much better than rural ones.
• STEM Dominance: India produces approximately 1 million STEM graduates annually, one of the highest outputs globally.

Botswana:
• Higher Education: Botswana has a small but growing higher education system, with prominent institutions like the University of Botswana and Botswana International University of Science and Technology (BIUST). These cater to a limited population.
• Enrollment: Botswana’s higher education participation is respectable for Africa but limited in global terms, with less than 50,000 students enrolled annually.
• Global Rankings: Botswana’s institutions are not ranked globally, and their focus is on addressing national and regional needs.
• Literacy Rate: Botswana has a literacy rate of 88%, higher than India, but with a smaller and less diverse academic output.
• STEM Focus: STEM education is present but lacks the scale or specialization seen in India.

2. Performance in International Competitions

India:
• Olympiads and Competitions: India frequently excels in international math, science, and coding competitions, such as the International Mathematics Olympiad and ACM International Collegiate Programming Contest.
• Research Output: India is one of the top producers of scientific research papers and patents, with significant contributions to global innovation.
• Global Workforce: Indian professionals are highly sought after, especially in technology and medicine, with prominent roles in multinational corporations, academia, and research globally.

Botswana:
• Olympiads and Competitions: Botswana rarely participates or places in international academic competitions due to limited resources and a small talent pool.
• Research Output: Academic research output in Botswana is minimal and often focused on regional issues like wildlife conservation, public health, and agriculture.
• Global Workforce: Botswana’s global presence in specialized academic or professional fields is negligible compared to India.

3. Academic Achievements

India:
• India has produced numerous Nobel laureates, including:
• C.V. Raman (Physics)
• Amartya Sen (Economics)
• Graduates from Indian institutions lead major global companies like Google, Microsoft, and Adobe.
• Indian students dominate global standardized tests like the GRE, GMAT, and SAT, often outperforming candidates from most countries.

Botswana:
• Botswana has not produced Nobel laureates or globally renowned scholars.
• Academic achievements are primarily focused on regional development goals, such as addressing public health issues like HIV/AIDS and promoting sustainable development.

4. Academic Performance Metrics

India:
• Global Academic Ranking: India ranks in the top 30 nations for higher education and research output.
• PISA Results: India has participated in the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) but performs inconsistently due to disparities in urban vs. rural education.
• STEM Excellence: India is a leader in STEM, with significant contributions to space exploration, technology, and medicine.

Botswana:
• Global Academic Ranking: Botswana is not ranked globally for academic output or research.
• PISA Results: Botswana has not participated in PISA assessments, reflecting a focus on national education priorities.
• STEM Focus: STEM programs in Botswana are growing but are not competitive on a global scale.

5. Educational Challenges

India:
• Strengths:
• High academic ambition and international presence.
• Significant government and private sector investment in education technology.
• Weaknesses:
• Disparities between urban and rural education.
• Large-scale literacy and dropout challenges in underdeveloped regions.

Botswana:
• Strengths:
• Strong focus on inclusive education and literacy.
• Significant investment in vocational training.
• Weaknesses:
• Limited access to specialized programs.
• Reliance on foreign universities for advanced education.

Conclusion:

Based on global academic performance, India clearly outperforms Botswana in virtually all metrics, including STEM dominance, international presence, research output, and higher education infrastructure. While Botswana performs well relative to its size and regional context, it cannot compete with India’s scale, achievements, and global impact. India wins decisively in general academic performance.

Much if not most of the scientists, doctors, engineers in the west are Indian or Chinese. Silicon Valley and other scientific/tech hubs are now Indian and Chinese dominated.

How can you compare botswanna tech that’s not even its own. Almost all the technology we use in Africa is imported. And it’s largely asian imported 😂

Derekmiles:
"It's tech", about half of its population can't even get Internet access, and dude is talking about tech, that's like the simplest tech.

He keeps saying primitive😂😂😂, it's very much adequate... Was it you who made it primitive?, because last i checked, it was very much in very good conditions.

The internet runs on electricity 😂, it’s like I’m having to quite literally school you. What’s the point of having all that internet when millions of people can’t get online? Electricity has been known to the world for centuries and black countries in Africa still can’t crack it.

This Botswana internet you’re bragging about is some of the slowest on earth with less than 10 Mbps. What the hell are you doing with that?
😂
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

Yea Botswana tech is primitive. The country’s electricity is not even as stable as Gabon. All modern technology runs on electricity. You need constant electricity to have adequate tech and infrastructure. That’s an obvious. You’ve been quiet on the electricity issue for so long. I don’t know why 😂

Botswana doesn’t have a space program or it’s own Silicon Valley etc or answer to the Indian/Asian technology. Asian technology has exceeded the west. Botswana is just a tiny coutnry that gets all its economic activity from diamonds. They are too dumb to produce anything. When do you ever hear of made in Botswana’? India is one of the largest industrial powers on earth. They produce much of what you use. A Botswana and generally African lifestyle is primitive compared to Botswana. Africa is in the dark ages.

Derekmiles:
Adequate infrastructure, and yet, Botswanans have better infrastructure per the population than Indians, better road network per the population, way better Healthcare access... Even literacy rate is way higher😂😂😂. Bro, shut the f*ck up man, you're done liar liar😂😂😂.

Healthcare access and quality aren’t the same thing.
Indian tech is light years ahead. People don’t come to Botswanna for medical procedures like they do for India.

You’re making things up. Botswana infrastructure is nowhere India. significantly more developed transportation system, including extensive road networks, railways, and airports. Major cities also boast large-scale infrastructure projects, such as smart cities, IT hubs, and seaports. The Indian infrastructure is light years ahead of Botswana. It’s much more impressive.

India’s power grid and technology is also far light years ahead.

Imagine comparing blacks and Asians in educational Perfomance. It’s like comparing a chimpanzee to a human. Asians that are stereotyped as walking calculators and encyclopaedia is what you want to compare them to? India has a higher IQ. India beats the living daylight out of botswna and most countries on earth in academic Perfomance.a much larger and more diverse education system, with an expanding number of institutions of higher learning, including prestigious universities and technical institutes like the Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) and Indian Institutes of Management (IIMs). India produces a large number of graduates, including in fields like engineering, medicine, and science, and has a significant presence in international academic rankings. Whether it is test scores, grades and general achievement. Indians stomp.

And Botswanna has better roads? You’re a fool. Botswanna’s traffic fatality rate of 26 per 100,000 is 2x that of India at 11 per 100,000

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

Derekmiles:
Do you even understand what Electricity access means, because i think you take 99% to mean constant power supply... If you do, please go back to school 😂😂😂.

You're talking about more important things, and yet, Botswanans have a general better standard of living, what's more important than that.

I’m even wrong😂
India is 100%😂😂
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electrification_rate

How do you have a better QOL when your infrastructure is on par with a nation from centuries ago?

Electricity is as important as water and food in modern life. India is a much more modernised and thus a country with a higher QOL.

Nobody is going to take you seriously if you believe that Botswana has better quality of life when its tech, infrastructure, healthcare etc is primitive. I told you once and I won’t stop saying. It’s only North Africa that gives India

How on earth can a successful country not have constant electricity? That’s something that the rest of the world achieved a century ago

Derekmiles:
Diasporas is the hype now😂😂😂... This is completely a new low, run from your country that is a shithole, hype yourself in another😂😂😂. The more you speak, the more similarities you insinuate between Indians and Nigerians😂😂😂.

And it's not negligable you idiot, be at peace with that😂😂😂.

I brought up diasporas because you decided to compare the passport power of Botswana to India. I said that even though the Botswana passport is mroe powerful. It’s irrelevant because even when you adjust population differences, Indians are doing better abroad and in their homeland. They’re smarter, more industrious etc. but please continue comparing India to a country where millions live with no electricity whatsoever 😂

Derekmiles:
Diasporas is the hype now😂😂😂... This is completely a new low, run from your country that is a shithole, hype yourself in another😂😂😂. The more you speak, the more similarities you insinuate between Indians and Nigerians😂😂😂.

And it's not negligable you idiot, be at peace with that😂😂😂.

How is that new low? Having constant electricity, adequate infrastructure, healthcare etc is what’s more important. You tried to compare India to a country where 30% of the population has no electricity. As I said before that India is far more advanced than virtually any African nation bar the ones in the north. Technology of 200 years ago, blacks still can’t crack it😂

Derekmiles:
😂😂😂, Dude has been caught in his lies and has gone into complete Anecdotal BS... Of course they dwarfs the Africans with such a population; and imagine being proud of people fleeing their country, crossing jungles, rivers, getting mass deported😂😂😂; this is actually a new low for you, imagine being proud of people rushing out of their Nation en masse, i reject that, i will never be proud of that because it speaks a lot of the home country.

Because you’re bragging about something that’s actually meaningless. My data was out of date because I told you that visa laws do change. Indian passport could emerge as stronger than Botswanna in the future. I still haven’t seen a response on your part about the differences in infrastructure. Botswana is infrastructure is terrible (all African countries are( to such an extent that nearly 30% of the country lives with no electricity. Indian electricity access is 99% you’ll focus on minor things like passport power but not the more i pros r things
Huge population doesn’t translate into such a large diaspora. Nigerians and Brazilians should have an easier time abroad 😂
And again immigration is not necessarily fleeing. You think just like an FBA. You think everyone is a tether. Not every Indian abroad fled as many of them will still live India simultaneously or visit. How can you flee but still regularly visit the country you came from?

Derekmiles:
The Indian passport provides much better access to Asia and Oceania (including major economic powers like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and others). India has visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to many countries in these regions, whereas Botswana does not have the same level of access here


Are you this delusional?... Indians can't even go to the Philippines without a Visa not to talk of Japan, or South korea😂😂😂... Botswanans can go to South Korea without a Visa, can go to Singapore without a Visa, the only ones you mentioned that they can't go to is Japan... Even in the Asian Countries you mentioned, Botswanans still beats them😂😂😂... You've been lying out of your ass for a long time now, it's actually getting pathetic😂😂😂.

Dude, do you know the amount of digging i do into actual research, especially systemic research?, do you think i just copy and paste from any website that comes to mind... I've been calling you Mr "Take Poo To The Loo" Campaign, because i've done a lot of digging some years back on the India open poop issue... So when you say "Some Analysts", i call that complete BS, because i've done a lot of digging to know that most analysts have a general consensus on Botswana being a successful Nation.

Visa policies are constantly in flux, you hyping the Botswana passport that’s not even a powerful passport is hilarious😂 Indians still excel globally in a way that Botswana would dream. Who cares that the Botswana passport may have a negligibly higher visa free access than an Indian power. That additional power they have is useless 😂population differences aside, there is no city or country on earth that you won’t find Indians thriving in.

Derekmiles:
I said it that this dude will say that Passport Index is spilling lies😂😂😂... Bro, you're cooked, this is literally the map of Asia under the Indian passport😂😂😂... Both countries can't even go to Japan without a Visa and this dude actually put Japan on both, are you this dumb, be at peace knowing you're just a very wrong Nairaland user😂😂😂.

Visa policies change all the time but it’s still irrelevant to compare them. Your acting as if the Indian diaspora doesn’t dwarf the Botswana or any African one globally 😂

pendo89:
A lot has happened since 2009 though, am not disputing the fact that rural areas are powered by other sources,despite the rural electrification programms taking place.The costs are prohibitive and so they opt for solar.

did u say outside nbo and mba? Those are only two towns in Kenya and u know kenya has 8 provinces @ with several towns.

The thing is,there is access to elec power in almost every corner except the marginalised communities who are mostly nomads. solar works best here.
But most people without electricity in their homes cannot afford to pay for the connection.It's apprx usd 500 per household to connect and that is quite a sum to a poor villager.
Many rural homes I have seen, have elect. poles right outside their gates but cannot pay the 500 usd to power their homes.

That was all part of the rural electrification programme which was initiated years back.

Not only is your comment largely anecdotal but that access is not about being hooked up to the grid. Much of Kenya still lives with no electricity at all. It’s high but it’s not high enough, nowhere near. It’s only North Africa that legitimately has constant power that is seen in other parts of the world. That statistic does include all sources of power not just grid.

Saying there is constant electricity in Kenya when millions of the population is still in the dark is delusional 😂

And you’re acting like as if Kenyan electricity is not epileptic in supply. It’s just not as epileptic in supply as other African countries:

panafrican:
Cote d'Ivoire has this 24/7 power supply since the 1960s.

Bullashit. Only 70% of the population has electricity leaving the remaining 30% in darkness. All Sub Saharan countries have epileptic or non existent power😂 no sub Saharan African country is fully electrified. Africa is the only region to still not have constant power

Rossikk:
^^^Access to electricity in Kenya is a dismal 16%.

Essentially, outside Nairobi and Mombasa, it's every man for himself.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/kenya/access-to-electricity-percent-of-population-wb-data.html

It’s up to 76% for Kenya. But she’s still lying completely. Universal electricity exists in every other region but sub Saharan Africa. And it’s still epileptic for most Kenyans

Derekmiles:
The Indian passport provides much better access to Asia and Oceania (including major economic powers like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and others). India has visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to many countries in these regions, whereas Botswana does not have the same level of access here


Are you this delusional?... Indians can't even go to the Philippines without a Visa not to talk of Japan, or South korea😂😂😂... Botswanans can go to South Korea without a Visa, can go to Singapore without a Visa, the only ones you mentioned that they can't go to is Japan... Even in the Asian Countries you mentioned, Botswanans still beats them😂😂😂... You've been lying out of uour ass for a long time now, it's actually getting pathetic😂😂😂.

Botswanna only does 5 in Asia

Botswana Passport in Asia:

Botswana passport holders have limited access to countries in Asia, and often need a visa for many Asian nations. However, there are a few countries where Botswana citizens have visa-free or visa-on-arrival access.
• Visa-free access or Visa on arrival to some countries in Asia:
1. Japan (Visa-free for up to 90 days)
2. Singapore (Visa-free for up to 30 days)
3. Hong Kong (Visa-free for up to 90 days)
4. South Korea (Visa-free for up to 30 days)
5. Macau (Visa-free for up to 30 days)
• Other Asian countries typically require a visa (e.g., India, China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand).

India Passport in Asia:

India passport holders have better access to Asian countries compared to Botswana. India has visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to a wide range of countries in the region.
• Visa-free access or Visa on arrival to many countries in Asia:
1. Japan (Visa-free for up to 90 days)
2. South Korea (Visa-free for up to 90 days)
3. Singapore (Visa-free for up to 30 days)
4. Thailand (Visa-free for up to 30 days)
5. Malaysia (Visa-free for up to 30 days)
6. Indonesia (Visa-free for up to 30 days)
7. Nepal (Visa-free)
8. Sri Lanka (Visa on arrival for 30 days)
9. Bhutan (Visa-free)
10. Maldives (Visa on arrival for 30 days)
11. Cambodia (Visa on arrival for up to 30 days)
12. Vietnam (Visa-free for up to 30 days)
• India also has strong diplomatic ties with many other Asian countries, granting it access to a broader set of nations than Botswana

But continue to lie