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good. Oil came and everybody turned their focus to SS oil. Blacks have failed God.

The protests weren't peaceful but the NA shouldn't have shot unarmed citizens. This is bad, real bad.

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Aliko has spoken

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it must be an Igbo, else the story wont be complete.

I love the Yoruba's because unlike other tribes, they don't feel like they're competing with anyone.

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what?

okidoki, I'll send you a pm.

LoJ:
If you wish to relate them, even privately, I'm willing to listen to you.

Nigerians are too basic. Aint nothing "monster" about that car.

I don't think he's afraid of getting deeper, you don't expect him to say all that he sees. It may be too much for some people to handle. Things of the spirit are better experienced personally. Infact, his ministry has been an eye opener to all those who doubted the existence of the spiritual world. Even Jesus limited his teachings on spiritually. Trust me, there's a lot on spirituality that isn't in the bible.

If I were to even narrate my experiences on spirituality, the atheists along with some Christians will debunk it, calling it bluff.

Take care!

LoJ:
Hello Slikbae. Thank you for your answers.

I don't need breakthrough, Healing nor deliverance. I am content with the little I have now. If the laws of God find me deserving to have more so that I can bless others more, so be it. If not, I am here but for a short season. I can't focus my attention and strength on financial breakthrough and the right like.

That's why I used to pay attention to Tb Joshua. He seemed to be one of the rare preachers in Nigeria who try to teach spirituality, albeit at a very basic level - His series of teachings" God is spirit" for instance. It is as if He's afraid to get any deeper. Afraid to be misunderstood and castigated more than He already is. So he now focuses on performing miracles and healings. Maybe I am wrong though. Judgement belongs to God.

I thank you once more for your answers.

I wish you blessings.

Denial won't do you no good. It isn't only when you mention "in the name of Mary" that you're praying to Her. This isn't rocket science. Any prayer that isn't done in the name of Jesus or that is addressed to any being or entity other than Jesus is pagan or demonic prayer. Yes, I said that without mincing words.

Did Jesus instruct you to plead or pray to Mary asking her to pray to Jesus in your behalf? You might as well pray to Abraham or Isaac.

Do not bring common sense into this, the ways of the lord are not the was of men. There is a path that seemeth right unto men, but the end thereof is destruction.

Mary has no power to intercede for anyone. The holy spirit is our only intercessor. Anything other than that I against what Christianity died for.

And praying to Angel Gabriel is the height of it all.

These are the things I'm supposed to be preaching to a pagan or an atheists, not a 'supposed' christian.

I refuse to comment further on this topic. Its a free world.

samted:
Did you even read what you typed PRAY FOR US SINNERS!!! Did you see the prayer end in "in the name of mary"

Look at it this way. You offend your father and then you go to your mother and say "mother, help me plead with daddy".

Does that sound like asking forgiveness from your mother?

Let's reason like intelligent beings that we are. Asking someone to pray for you is not the same as praying to that person.

And no, your criticism is not constructive...if it were you wouldn't use words like demonic.

He didn't prophesy to me. I was having serious spiritual problems which were affecting my material life and that was why I needed to see him. Yes , I've seen a turn around for good.

One thing I'd have you know is that everything that happens there is real. I went there with a foreigner who had never visited Lagos before and she was delivered.

But trust me, you don't need to meet him personally to get your deliverance, breakthrough or healing. Just have faith, visit the church and during the course of the service, your purpose of going there will be met.

Also, on that very day, I got to the church at 4:30 am and came back at 11:30pm. But its quite different now, since he's started coming out again.

LoJ:
Hello Slikbae. Thank you for your answers. I do not intend to ridicule you or anyone's beliefs. My questions are sincere, as I have deep respect for Tb Joshua.

I don't know what you mean by Christian, but yes I'm a christian, albeit not a religious one.

Did Tb Joshua prophesied to you? What were the after effects of this encounters?

Thank you again and cheers.

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I am a grown adult, I live by the bible and not what any pastor says.

you don't pray to Mary right? now what does this mean?

"holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death"??

does that seem to you like a prayer to God or to Mary?? And pls don't tell me its a way of honoring her. That is all levels of wrong.

samted:
but where have you heard anyone 'praying in the name of mary'??

Please get your facts right and stop chewing what your catholic-hating pastors and church members are feeding you.

. per the bolded, nobody hates you lot. Not every constructive criticism is born out of hatred.

pls what do you mean by Igbo speaking South South? That is alien to SSners. SS belongs to the urhobos, ijaws, efiks,ibibios, itsekiris,ikwerres,okrikas,ogonis,isokos etc. The SE belongs to the igbos.

That said, PH, Warri, Uyo, Calabar, are all better in all ramifications that any SE state. And pls don't tell me how Ph, Uyo , warri etc is igboland.

christopher123:
but they are the richest state ...in what margin are south south higher.. let us exclude the igbo speaking south south...pls tell me one ijaw village that is better than any place in anambra or enugu

These are two separate instances.

Its biblical , now consider this bible verse James 5:14

14 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church , and let them pray over him , anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.

A church elder can be a pastor or a deacon. per the bolded, take note, it says it must be done in the name of the Lord, not in the name of Mary.

You do remember the story of Jacob right? and how he prayed for the two sons of Joseph right? praying for someone is okay.

What is not okay is "praying to" someone. There are two different things. Jesus Christ is our "only" mediator. He alone died for our sins. Praying to Mary, honoring her and praying to Angel Michael are all demonic, occultic practices.

Any other questions?

Jusmudi:
Hw can u nw proof 2 me dt asking ur pastor 4 prayers on ur behalf is demonic?

The sad truth is this: honoring or praying to Mary is demonic and alien to Christianity.

bye Sire!!

samted:
Mary is the mother of Christ and deserves to be honored.

what truth Mr?

samted:
It's your opinion. It's your problem is all i'm saying. Calling it demonic doesn't change the truth.

I didn't spend a dime, instead his minister s gave me free morning water and faith bracelet and some books and CDs. We didn't discuss, he just laid his hands on my forehead and that was it.

TB Joshua has a kind heart, in my presence money was given to about 3 women to return to their various countries. Before I continue, are you asking to make mockery of me, him or Christianity? cuz from your previous posts you ain't a Christian.

LoJ:
Very interesting. Could you please share with us your experience of meeting with Tb Joshua? How did you manage? How was the meeting? What did you discussed? How long did it last? Did you spent money? How much and what for?

Thank you in advance.

But neither of them said they were dating. bloggers tho.

This is the only reasonable thing GEj could have done for us the NigerDeltans. This would have brought about rapid development to our region.

Amaechi is another son of ours, and is very perfect for the job. let's see if he can do what GEJ didn't do.

I love you Tonyebarcanista My fellow NigerDeltans love you