₦airaland Forum

drnoel: I gave a like cos i agree with ur statement, enof is enof. We should learn 2 bury the hatchet and learn 2 move 4ward 4 our children. The nigeria, i want children to know is the untribalistic nigeria and not the one filled with tribalistic, bigotry, fanatistical, uncivilized people whose only interest in life is to slander other people, support our wayward politicians and dream of a time when they would have the opportunity to be in power so that they can steal 4rm the country.

This coming from you? You jumped on the other guy's comment so quickly? Well, we know you and your ilk, and we Yorubas have it up to here with you! You think abuse of Chief Awolowo, Professor Soyinka, Fela, Solarin, Tinubu, Fashola, etc will be forgotten because of your small platitudes? You can forget it! Your best shot is if Nigeria ever goes into a regional government only then will all ibo not need a visa in any area close to our borders! The same Soyinka that was almost killed for Biafra, you abused him recently for speaking the truth which you were happy when he stood up for biafra? You insult Chief Awolowo, the man who not only bested your Zik and Ojukwu but allowed hordes of uneducated ibo to benefit from the Yoruba West free education policy? Well, you can shove your opinion down your ass, we will be looking at each other from across the Niger, simple! You stay where your god placed you and we stay where God created us! I am not hating you but I am tired of being in the same country with people who defend corruption because their tribes man is involved and has eaten full while others go to bed hungry, tired and cold! Go and build your eastern land, we will build our Western country! It is that simple!

GenBuhari: I lived through the war as a child.
The overwhelming feeling of Igbos after war was lost was relief as our suffering would end. We were felt Ojukwu and his troops surrendered the war because they were merciful towards the enormous suffering and starvation that we Igbos were enduring.


This video of Gowon leaves little doubt in my mind that Ojukwu did the correct thing in ensuring that Gowon's troops did not capture him, as this would have meant his certain death.

Ojukwu attained the unshakebly status of an Igbo hero long before the war ended.
He remains the greatest Igbo hero today.

Well, we all know ibo history started in 1967 and you still have a lot to learn. For sure, it is a shame that the greatest ibo ma who could not win an ordinary war in 1967, lost more than 3 M in just 2 years 6 months and 9 days! That is the greatest man in your tribe in its history, and all that is 40 years ago! Some other people have a super illustrious history dating back several hundreds of thousands of years! Ojuku was a coward no doubt, even hitler as bad as he was, was MUCH better!

stevnwigw1: he that fights and ran away may have to fight another day.

What fight did he fight another day? Did he not return to work like a sheep for his masters in the north and west eventually?? Otherwise, show me one LG election he won every since!

Why go beg the retardeen through Obasanjo? But trust OBJ - baba na BABA!

The retardeen is probably going to constitute another committee to investigate is and then another committee to evaluate the report of the first committee! LWKMD! Next, he will play political football with issue and then some tribal card game and then get confused before doing something more scandalous himself!

Why is that fat face Iweala not being prosecuted too for her financial crimes? Maybe she is offering some "service" to the retardeen himself, who knows??

khamas19: @lertee...you seem to forget that these state boundaries are artificial creations and quite ephemeral....the eraser that will wipe these boundaries is on the same pencil that drew them...

Moving on..

....i think it is rather callous to classify the whole of Kwara as irrelevant to the yoruba people..based on Afonja's actions ..that'll be like throwing the baby out with the bath water...these people are our heritages and they feed into the diversity that is Odua....they have more in common with yoruba than with anyone else...what am i even saying..they are yoruba!!!....simple!!..but there's a caveat...

...ultimately my believe is that people have a right to self-determination...if they choose to be other than Yoruba..then all we can do is wish them well..

That exactly is the point of view I had canvassed earlier and the best compromise in EVERY way! Ask that each person / groups vote in a plebiscite and that will be the best approach. Throwing out the baby with the water will naturally upset people on both sides, people like us in the SW who think it is an unnecessary loss of our Yoruba people and attribute it to politics (which is unnecessary at this level), the feeling of rejection by those people will not make them happy if some or majority wanted to be in the SW. If they are badly treated by the other side (northerners) in the future, they will blame the SW Yorubas significantly for being on the short end of the stick. This becomes even a more significant problem if the SW opens up bigger leads in economic growth, employment opportunities, free education, healthcare, infrastructure, industry, ports, minerals and oil and gas, etc. Their frustration could very well be the bed rock of insurgencies to sabotage us, who knows? They could in fact decide to stand aside if there is any aggression from that side too because they feel they were rejected, why should they help when they have no benefit?

At the end of the day, empirical and historical evidence suggests that the Yoruba West will continue to best all regions of the country for the foreseeable future and the people at the borders, like every normal human being, would rather be in a region where they and their children will have better opportunities.

django1: The main yoruba groups of SW hardly reckon with other yoruba people outside the south west zone.

Which one is "main Yoruba groups"? There is NOTHING like MAIN anything, don't create any division where there is NONE! Please delete it from your mind now. This is coming from me, a Yoruba, from Ile-Ife, yes from a royal house if you care, father married to my mother from Oyo, her grandfather, of the house of the chief priest of Sango, I am married to my wife from Ekiti so STOP any idea of imaginary segregation - it is so uncalled for. Thank you.

tobechi20: These are the three major performing governors(except akpabio).

No meeting can hold without them.

Which apabio? I hope it is not the same governor of Akwa Ibom that you mean is performing while ordinary small stream of water turned to a flood carrying away houses and people? Or the one in which Akwa Ibomites cannot find just any job (forget a decently paying one) in the same state without going to another state? Keep deluding yourselves!

seanet02: ibos take note

No Yoruba wants or needs the property of anybody else, much less the ibos and I am giving you free business consulting to ensure there is never abandoned property again!

Nice one! Proud to be Yoruba! So much history, I am just lost sometimes! This makes some people soooo jealous being they were discovered only in the 1900s still living in cave forests!

You will help people to move their properties back to their regions and countries!

Assuming there are 5,000,000 houses that need to be moved in Nigeria and you charge only N 1,000,000 to move a single bungalow; assuming you get only contracts for only 1,000 houses, you will earn at least N 1,000,000,000! That is N 1 B! Even Dangote started with much less capital. Take this opportunity now by preparing for the future!

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https://assets.natgeotv.com/Photos/00/690.jpg

As the SNC is being planned, I have a wonderful business idea that will fetch you millions! Start a mega moving company! If you think this is not possible, it is very possible! With engineering and technology, it is now possible to move virtually anything including big homes to thousands of KMs away! This will be a most sought after company when Nigeria does go back to regional governments or breaks up completely! Check out the pictures!

https://www.history.co.uk/sites/default/files/gallery/900%20Ton%20Building.jpg

Lapdogs governor meeting! It's funny they think anyone is fooled by their servitude and boy-boyness! No wonder their entire states rank worst in everything in Nigeria!

Unfortunately, it seems that there is already a no go area when the objective is to make the country stronger - meaning we can not go our separate ways?

Well, the absolute MINIMUM for us, Yorubas, is regional autonomy where we get to determine our destiny and develop without the influence of any non-Westerner! Our brothers in Kogi, Kwara, Edo and parts of Delta are more than welcome to join us in the Western Region but we need to control our lives and destiny! We will pay an agreed percentage to the centre and auditors from each region and the central government will audit each others account at least every year to be sure no one is cooking the books! We will control our natural resources, infrastructure, education, healthcare, ports, everything! At the centre, an agreement of power rotation of 4 years only should be reached and the central government will only deal with defence, national border protection, monetary and foreign policy! I can't wait!!

bloggernaija: Thank you obasanjo.
Now is the time for him to build his own power stations from scratch without borrowing so that the next man can commission something too.

Thanks for mentioning that to ignorant little kids who have no idea or the usual tribalists who can never acknowledge the work of Obasanjo, only because of his name! Obasanjo initiated many of the IPPs and I remember hearing names like Omotosho, Geregu, Papalanto, etc as far back as Obasanjo's days!

Ngodigha1: DON'T DERAIL THIS BEAUTIFUL THREAD.
Only the Igbo in the south east is about 25 million. Ten million in Nigeria outside the south east and another 5 million outside Nigeria. That makes the Igbo population 40 million worldwide.
Once again just read through what Omonakoda etc are writing as you anot intelligent enough for this sort of thread.

You are the one derailing here by injecting an imaginary census which you conducted in your imagination into a factual discussion of history! No one cares about your bogus census, go and count somewhere else and not bring your crappy talk to this place!

lertee: Sure,the federal govt or state govt has power over a traditional ruler.
The law that binds every citizen binds the traditional ruler too. Afterall the ollofa of offa was dragged to court and he is facing dethronement.
We are only talking of history on monarchs and the system since inception before laws started binding them either for or against.

So now you're eating the humble pie?? As a Yoruba man from the royal house of Ile-Ife, my dad married my mum from Oyo! Her grandfather, my great grandfather, was the chief priest of Sango and yes, they were the ones who laid the way with the spiritual battle cries of those days before the gallant Yoruba warriors went to war! And YES, all Yorubas are my brothers and sisters! My lovely wife is from Ekiti! The Yorubas in the Kwara areas know for sure they'd rather form a majority with their brothers and we don't need outsiders to tell us fallacious stories that are untrue! We know what to do...we were already authors for over 10,000 years before some of the current day Nigerians were accidentally discovered in the forests! . If not for British colonialism, some of these people just after the Niger today would have been speaking our Yoruba language while treating themselves to Amala + Ewedu + Gbegiri!!

lertee: This is my only arguement,the emirate rule hs eaten deep and it will be too difficult to have an oba(yoruba form of ruling).
There r only two ruling houses in ilorin,the abdulqadirs and the gambaris,these are people with fulani descendants. The only house that could claim obaship are the Lawal's family “idi ape”,they have tried it severally and nothing happened. Majority of the emirate indigenes do not support obaship due to islam that has eaten into them and they cannot afford to go through oro and isedale of the yorubas.

Worry not about us, why not worry about your people and how they will survive in Nigeria or a new country? What is this nonsense about emirate eating deep? Is that what is going to feed them and give them the basics of human life? I have said before when the time for referendum comes, they will choose where they want to go or be! The Yorubas are already larger than almost every other groups in Nigeria maybe except one. Our lands are one of the largest and most prosperous! In a referendum, they will decide where they want to belong and in the worst case scenario, some parts may go to the emirates while the Yoruba parts become part of a Yoruba country as majority! Today if any Western European country or the North Americas had the opportunity for another country to merge with them, the other country will surely take the opportunity? Why? The opportunities ALONE is enough reason for some of you people to queue up at the embassies in Nigeria to get a visiting visa to America! Now imagine a US/UK opportunity in the greater Yoruba State!? Well the people will decide anyway so save your breath!

Ngodigha1: Monkey, this is not an Igbo thread and do not bring Igbo to it. If an Igbo individual types what you don't like, deal with that individual directly rather than bring Igbos to it. An opinion of one Igbo here doesn't represent the opinion of over 40 million Igbo people worldwide.
Count Igbo out of this thread.

Stop with the nonsense statistics! ibos are not up to 20 M! Your lies does not create additional ibo humans in case you are misguided or think everyone buys your propaganda! Of course you are the monkey and I wonder what your type are doing on this thread since this has nothing to do with ibos! Worry about how the Ijaws now call the shots in your country and not whether the Yorubas in Kwara would want to join their brothers in a Greater Yoruba county or Region!

Governor Fashola, the visionary and performant leader of Lagos State, an important Yoruba state, we are proud of you! Let this so called national conference grant Nigeria back it's regional autonomies and I will more than be happy to support you as our next Premier of Western Nigeria! In current Nigeria, you would have been president of the country, but if Nigeria remains as is with other Nigerians unwilling to agree to a regional governing arrangement, I say confidently that you deserve to be the leader if this country!

These people are still uncivilized cavemen and so backward! Man worship and ass licking is their only job! Amaechi is right but not only that, he has the universal and undeniable right to free speech! While you claim that he insults your tin god, phoolish retardeen president, you and your useless president insult all (or the Majority) of Nigeriand in words, deeds and actions telling us you don't give a damn while living on our country's wealth. The poor people are hungry, the students are marooned at home for months while you barstards share billions everyday and the president eats N 1 B food and flies for N 9 B 10 presidential jets! Who deserves to be insulted and killed like the unfortunate Nigerians who you have put in the mouths of violent deaths, BH and our soldiers whom you sent to battle with inferior weapons and insufficient ammunition and no air or combat support until they were slaughtered!!? Oloriburuku ni gbogbo yin, iku ojiji lo ma pa yin danu! If all you bastards died a sudden and violent deaths, you would have reaped the rewards of the work if your hands!

Referendum will ultimately settle this issue so no problem. The natives and inhabitants of Ilorin will choose to either go with the West or North, why does the eastern ibos care so much about this issue? The question you should be concerned about is what people will even want to go with the East? Even some "former" ibos have now said they were NEVER ibos, why not worry about that?

INNO18: just heard on NTA that jonathan would be 'escorted' to the Holy land with 19 Christian Governors! This is preposterous to say the least, why does foreign travel always have to be a jamboree with him? That's more than Half the Administrators we have in Nigeria, not to talk of the ministers,reps,senators and co that would equally 'escort'him with them.
This is so not right!

Shut up! Yes, shut your damn mouth!! Now you are crying?? You haven't seen anything yet! I want that man to ruin that country completely until all the losers who support him are auctioned for 1 Kobo! Are your people not the ones supporting him? At least you are getting contracts and anything you "eat" from Nigeria is your share you haven't eaten for 40+ years?? Well, make him carrry goo na, NO AMOUNT IS TOO BIG TO SPEND ON SUCH A PERFORMING LEADERSHIP IN NIGERIA! Your retardeen said the same thing yesterday after Oduah was exposed for looting millions!

lygn19: Sorry if I might ask, which tribe re u from?

What does it matter where he is from? To you, it is all about your tribe and it is obvious who you are and you are ibo! SMH for people like you! Let ever people keep their ancestral and natural heritages and monetize it as they seem fit and pay an agreed percentage to the central government! There will be auditors from all government regions to inspect the books of each region to be sure there is no fraud in accounting!

lygn19: I am not claiming southsouth if dats ur fear, but am claiming d Igbo's on it.

Funny! How can you claim human beings ibo or not? Are you their God or ruler or leader? Are they tubers of yam unable to know where they belong or want to belong?? This is the problem and mistake ibos have: a desire to have or think they have more right than the other person.

The writer here is making his own case not claiming for anybody. He is saying where he wants to belong and the curious cases he has encountered. He is saying I want to be with my people, we want our families to be with our bigger families and he is not asking that the minority Northerners become Yorubas (go and read it again if you missed it). Should the minority people decide to go with the majority of their current Yoruba neighbours to belong to a Greater Yoruba (Western) Region-State-Country, it is their exclusive prerogative and I have no doubts that they will not only be welcomed but they will partake in a far better living conditions than in present arrangement and better than belonging to the north, the way we know it. For example, free education and healthcare and best in class economic opportunities will be available to them or their children - something no other part of Nigeria has ever provided to their citizens.