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hopefulLandlord:
cuz one deals with good evidence and the other deals with bad or no evidence but covers it all up by emphasising the importance of faith (believing something is true despite no evidence)

So, which of the two does a blind person like me believe?

CyrusTheGreat:
God did not create earth or the planets, because god does not exist.



That's quite curious, because according to the extensive study of modern cosmology and geology, the earth only began to form 4.5 billion years ago from space dust and debris left over from our sun's formation, 9.4 billion years after the beginning of the universe, meaning that its only existed for less than 25% of the universes' current lifetime.

What, did the god of these so called 'prophets' just forget to mention the billions of years worth of stuff that was going on throughout the history of the universe for a nonsensical creation story about the world being only a couple of thousands of years old? The failings of a supposedly omnipotent being, or the far more likely scenario that these prophets were pulling crαp out of their αsses?

Your comment makes a few things require more questions. If the earth existed since 4.5billion years ago, then when were Adam and Eve created? Were they apes? That's what science described early humans as. If today is 2017, I'd assume it's 2017 AD and Jesus couldn't have died any more than 2017 years ago, max 3000 years even including possible errors in the dates. The bible includes Adam and Eve in the old testernment, Christ and his disciples in the new testernment. Are we saying some folks were around 4.5billion years ago and someone somewhere was alive to document everything within both ages in a book?2017 years ago is entirely far from 4.5billion years you mentioned. Why is science and religion on two separate pages?
Things don't add up here.

TimmyPapa:
There Is one thing u guys don't knw Abut d bible..
The bible only contains Wats pertaining to us..wat concerns us an Wats edifice us..so that mean anything dat dus not edifices U... s not in d bible... nd d bible was Writen by men of God throug inspiration tru revelation so only wa is shown to them they write down...so ma friend GoD created everyfin... if not may b u can enlighten us and tell us wu u think created d other planets

Thanks for your explanation. But don't you think certain people should have written other books after the bible that we can all refer to? Are we saying everyone after those back then were dumb and their views didn't matter, except a few before them that wrote a few stuff they expect everyone to consume for the rest of their lives?

To be frank, this whole thing seem made up.

adelee777:
''in d beginning God made the heaven and d earth''. The ''heaven'' being referred to hear encompasses d whole universe. Ie all d planets, galaxies etc. So God created all of dem.

Never heard of this version before. How can the heaven mean the whole universe? Are you saying we are all living in heaven now cos earth is a part of the universe? Where then do people waiting to go to heaven go after they die here in 'heaven'? Kindly clarify.

izzou:
You have only read verse one.

Why don't you read up the whole chapter?

That's why I need smart people like you to tell me what's missing. The gentleman above told me his points. Your points will be helpful too. I dont believe in reading a whole book to figure out what I care about.
Thanks bro

felixomor:
Firstly.
Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God Made the Universe".... (GNT)
The Universe encompasses all planets and everything pertaining to space and matter.

Secondly, please OP have u seen any of these other planets you have mentioned with your eyes or someone told you? (Just asking)

Thanks for your response. I have not seen any of these planets
I'm human just like you and live here on earth like I would assume you do, but I follow scientific findings. I once worked for a firm that was entirely into satellite communications (Echostar). They launched a satellite into space while I was still there, and we all saw the satellite imagery broadcasted from space. It was a huge milestone and they wanted every employee to see the entire process. We all watched the entire process. I saw it with our monitoring equipment, smart devices, and TVs at home on some special channels the employees had access to, but I wasnt in space with the satellite looking at the universe with my bare eyes. It wasnt even my job to monitor satellites, I was just watching everything like everyone else did, but was inquisitive about what the firm had a passion for.
I was with the company for about 3 years and left for something else. But they launched other satellites after I left. See some of their footages here on YouTube
https://m.youtube.com/results?q=echostar%20satellite%20launch&sm=1

Something I'm pondering about is why the GNT version you mentioned said something different from KJV version. I'm sure you'll admit the earth is different from the universe. So, which version are we to believe?

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Genesis 1:1‭-‬2 KJV
http://bible.com/1/gen.1.1-2.KJV

We all know the earth isn't the only planet in the world, there are others. Since the bible only mentioned the earth, who then created the other planets? Satan?

Certain things just aren't adding up anymore.

Do aliens that live in some of these planets have their books they read since their planet weren't mentioned in the religious books we read here on earth? Their existence weren't even mentioned in our religious books.

Just trying to learn from those with more knowledge in this area, a problem shared is half-solved. I ponder over this a lot, and believe my brothers and sisters from the motherland can help.

Serious responses pls. No point quoting verses without any logical comparison to the earth we all live on.
Thanks.

emmanuelpopson:
you really took your time to explain the basics of programming et al. I have interest in multimedia as per 3D,animations etc. my take now is how do I begin since I have no basic knowledge on the topic because my first degree is geological inclined...also any online links that I may get to study and learn from..

thanks so much

Like I mentioned before, your degree doesn't have to stop you from whatever you like to do, just go for whatever you have a passion for, be sure your decision is tailored. It's no point learning what won't lead to some income - in my opinion. I'd be lieing if I said I have experience with 3d and animations. That's not my area. Applications like 3dmax, Maya and others could probably be what you need to learn, but I'm really not in that line, and other pros in that area can recommend what you really need to get going since that's what you like.

However someone I went to college with in Nigeria (Yabatech) is a movie producer/director now and many of his works are around 3D and animations. Though we studied Elect/Elect together, that didn't stop him from what he liked to do. He doesn't know me as smartmugu - he knows me by my real name (lol, I'm not all that smart, neither am I a mugu, I have no idea why I came up with that handle bur that's what I am on NL.), but he's always willing to help people with the right talents grow professionally in that area. If you have some skills in that area, I'm sure he'll give you a chance to work with his company if you can demonstrate you have the right skills- His company is Anthill Productions www.anthillproductions.org YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSc0Y-2nE2c
Please don't take this as a recommendation, he knows what he wants for his business - it's about what you have upstairs versus what he needs downstairs.

Go to one of his websites and spark up a conversation stating your skills. Who knows, that might just be your graphic area breakthrough. We all can't tell until we make a move first. He's cool people though.
He knows the right applications you need to learn and can show you the ropes. He simply loves grooming the right talents and I remember he once said he came up with the first Sci-fi movie in Nigeria, (Kajola). I think he's doing well in his chosen area and has movies where he featured Desmond Elliot, RMD, Jide Kosoko etc. Heard he even won some awards on some of his movies, but im really not in the movie industry and dont know that area like him. I last saw him 3 years ago when I last visited Nigeria. I regret not investing in one of his movies years ago. I backed out at a point which was a mistake on my part.
Just tell him you like his works, tell him your skills and see how it goes. He's a smart dude and knows what he wants in a person, so you need to have something to bring to his table. He had liked areas like that since we were young and now he does that professionally with his own team.
All the best bro.

henrixx:
can I mail you to put me through on this ict thing

I have actually shared all the links I know about you getting started. I'm not a trainer nor do I own any of the links I provided. Just go over them, invest a moment on a few of them and you're on your way there.
All the best.

airminem:
Its neccessary though. thanks

Oracle Fussion is relatively new, so, I'm not sure if Oracle has any certifications for it yet. But it's hot cake now.

airminem:
Okay. How do one get the certificate afterwards? online?

Depends on what you like to learn. Some courses have existing certifications, some don't. You can go to the vendors website and find out about existing certifications you may be interested in. All the best.

airminem:
Where is this ICT place, Location

You can learn anything online. Try http://apps2fusion.com

[quote author=airminem post=56225648][/quote]I think it's easy. Anyone can do it. Just put your mind to it if you like that area. One of my friends just brought his girlfriend from Nigeria less than a year ago. She studied accounting in Nigeria and now works for Deloitte in Atlanta as an Oracle Fussion expert, making $105k per annum. She learnt that because she put her mind to it. Anyone else can do it.

kayjee101:
Thanks for the attention bro.
I really don't know a thing about those courses aforementioned. Could you please provide me with a link that would enlighten me on each of them?

I understand bro. The first thing you need is to know what you have a passion for. Like I mentioned earlier, you just can't jump all over the place - you have to chose an area you like because IT is so broad. What you like may be different from what your neighbor likes, yet both of you are IT guys speaking in different languages.

For me personally, I started with SAP Security and GRC. Because I knew to learn SAP Security, you need to understand at least one module of SAP. So I learnt SAP Sales and Distribution (SD)and SAP Material Management (MM).

SD udemy link https://www.udemy.com/sap-sales-and-distribution-sd-super-user-training/

MM udemy link https://www.udemy.com/sap-materials-management-mm-super-user-training/

After learning at least one of those, learning SAP Security will be easy. You can search for an SAP Security class there on Udemy, or if you prefer a class a simple Google search can help

https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&ei=0zIMWfOvC8bdmQGTr6WICA&q=sap+security+training+india&oq=&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.1.0.35i39k1l3.0.0.0.3236.2.1.1.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1..64.mobile-gws-hp..1.1.24.3.iS3ZYtHaXyQ

After learning SAP Security, learning SAP GRC is easier.

Just know the path SAP ERP > SAP Security > SAP GRC . Not going in the right order just means you're wasting your time. That's just how it works.

That's if you like SAP at all, but SAP is the most used ERP application in the world and the biggest corporations in the world need SAP Experts.

If you prefer Oracle, there is a learning path as well. Business intelligence does have its own learning path as well, it's just up to you to know what you like to do.

Fela40:
I love the analysis. It seems you are in the U.S?

Nice one bro. but here in Nigeria, we consider Electricity and Data bundles.

some people might not be good with a virtual teacher also. (Someone like me)

I tried learning programming but the shitt kept knocking me out.

So that's the issue tho.

Yeah, I'm in the US, but I lived in Nigeria for a long time. We used to go to cybercafes a lot back then, and my overnight browsing back then were focused on whatever I liked to learn. Not sure if cybercafes are same as at then, but as long as you can stream videos, you can learn one a day till you have an arsenal of skills.

princeofpeace22:
Linda senior Don jazzy na

Haba na. Are you calling her an old woman? Buy her walking stick na

Is that who Don Jazzy chose? I thought they said it stinks down there.

Fela40:
Different fields bro.

1) it is difficult to pick the most sought after because I keep seeing various vacancies on so many branches of ICT.

But

Programming

Multimedia

Web Developer

Networking

These are the ones that are needed majorly now.

2) The most lucrative depends on who hires you. A programmer's starting salary for the poorest firm is about 80k in Nigeria plus other side jobs.

ICT depends on interest. So you need to know where your interest lies. That is why they have counsellors in various IT firms.

So I wouldn't wana recommend because I don't know your area of strength.

Thanks.

Is the 80k you mentioned per month? I'm asking cos I know Web developers can make way more than that per week freelancing on popular freelancing websites.

kayjee101:
Bro, are there IT certification
courses for an English and
literature graduate who has
no knack for Maths? Subsequently, how do i learn the basics[CCNA]?

It's doesnt matter what your background is. To get into IT only requires basic comprehension skills, which I believe you do. Just be tailored in your approach and not jump from all over the place. If you like programming, focus your efforts around programming trainings and get certified in the languages you like. Same applies to networking, project management, business analysis etc.
Just choose an area you like and build your skills around it.

For me, I like security and have worked several years around applications Security (Oracle and SAP), Compliance applications (GRC for Oracle and SAP), Business Intelligence (OBIEE, Spargo BI, Tableau, Microstrategy, Power BI and Cognos), Network Security (Juniper, Palo Alto, Cisco ASA, Checkpoint) and recently on Cyber Security/ Ethical Hacking. Some folks prefer other (boring to me) areas like project management, analysis etc. So what I like might be different from what you have strengths in.

I've seen folks with degrees in architecture, accounting, English, religious studies etc from Nigerian universities/polytechnic delve into IT here in the US, earning certifications as they build their portfolios. So, don't let your college major hold you down. The IT opportunities are indeed too much, but that's if you like that area to begin with. As long as you can think and learn, nothing is stopping you.
All the best bro

henrixx:
wat a breakdown. are you in lagos

No I'm not in Lagos. Though I grew up in Lagos,but I have been living in the US for many years.

oshe11:
She no KISS the DOLPHIN NI

That can be photoshoped too.

Which kain topic be this wey people dey discuss masturbation when I dey Sambisa dey find Shekau?

mansakhalifa:
When your country is the 2nd most developed country in Africa(sorry the world) you will have nothing else to do but to pretend like Mugabe. Rubbish. Don't go and play with your grandkids, grandpa. All these oldmen who don't know when to quit/resign.

Unfortunately majority of the young ones of us will still end up voting for same old people in 2019 after receiving rice and onions. That's how it has been in Nigeria historically.

dingbang:
my brother.. Abeg I dey kneel down dey beg you... Please tell me the skills I should learn immediately for the job roles in ur office.. I have the cash at hand to learn dem

Bro, no need to kneel down and beg anybody. You can learn anything you want all by yourself. It all starts with you and whatever you have a passion for. Based on what I've read so far, I think the area he was talking about is either networking or network security.

If that's what you like to do, do this few things....
1. Go to www.udemy.com and open an account
2. Search for CCNA, CCNP, Cisco ASA, Juniper, Fortinet, Palo Alto, Checkpoint courses. Wait! Don't buy them yet. Read the next steps.
3. Some of these courses will cost $200 and above, but let's get them cheap. So let's wait, relax and get them cheap.
Go to www.retailmenot.com, and search for 'udemy'. You will find coupons that will only make you pay only $10 to learn each one of the classes, even those that cost over $1000. Just copy the coupon codes from retailmenot.com and go paste it on udemy.com, and you're not paying same amount.
4.You have to learn these stuff in a certain order, else you will end up confused. Your understanding of CCNA will make the rest easy for you to comprehend, so I'd recommend you focusing ur efforts on that initially as that's the basics for the rest.
5. If what you want is Network Engineering, after learning CCNA concepts and possibly getting a certification in it, an additional Certification in CCNP will make you stand out amongst your peers. Some of the courses will expose you to using simulation tools like GNS3 and Cisco Packet Tracer, so you don't have to spend on buying actual devices to learn them.
6. If what you want is Network Security, after learning CCNA concepts, learn Fortinet, Checkpoint and Palo Alto. If you're good with command lines, add Cisco ASA. Then you are good. You don't need nothing more.
All of them are same concepts, but different technologies. So it's easy to start with the easiest of them all - Fortinet. Don't jump all over the place, stay focused on one technology at a time, else u will get confused jumping from one to the other.
7. Afterwards, draft out your resume stating your skills and watch how you're flooded with calls. Mind you, you're only investing about $70 for all these courses. In the US network security professional make from $110,000 per annum, in other words you'd make more than your initial investment within your first hour on the job. You can make yourself 'badder' by adding Citrix Netscaler to your skillsets and start earning nothing less that $150,000 per annum.
Not sure what the rates are in Nigeria, it might be less.But these skills will always remain your personal skills for life anywhere you go in the world.
8. After getting that dream job, don't stay put. Start thinking of starting something of your own.
9. Thank me later.

Goodluck bro.

AntiWailer:
u gree 1500 ?

Nwoke, Is that a governor ure pricing for N1500? Common, add N42.88 kobo, last price for that governor = N1542.88 kobo. I'll even give you free Aba shoes after you buy him from my shop in Alaba. I will give you correct authentic original receipt after you make the payment, all you have to do is to go to him in his government house and tell him Maazi SmartMugu already sold him to you for N1542.88 kobo and show him the correct, original, and authentic receipt I will give you. He will understand and follow you anywhere. You can do anything you want to do with him afterwards. If he offers you more money than you paid, keep me informed, so we can renegotiate on my commission. If he wants to buy you instead, tell me your last price and we can make it happen. This na correct business Nwoke, that's the best deal you can get anywhere in the world.

I can't negotiate any further, yay or nay?

@OP, why does this jentleman problem becomes your problems?
Na inglich, I just murder am again.

@OP, why does this jentleman problem becomes your problems?
Na iglish, I just murder am again.

Not interested in this topic.

micfoley:
This your school tough o.

Na which poly abeg?

ND - Fed Poly Ilaro
HND- Yabatech.

Something happened almost two decades ago that I still can't comprehend till today. It was in my OND days back in Nigeria. Most of us lived off-campus and usually hung out at various bars and spots after classes.

On a certain day, me and my friends went to a snooker spot, and were playing pool and drinking. There were three guys there before we got there and one of them was the leader of a cult there on campus. Everybody knew him, he wouldn't tolerate oppression from anyone but at the same time he was jovial and friendly with everyone. So, even jew-men and those that belonged liked him for his personality. To me, he was a cool dude - he never hurt me and I never hurt him either. He knew me very well and actually spent a few nights with me in my room off-campus with his team. He was cool people. I won't say his name, but let's just call him 'K'.

Back to what actually happened. It was me, two of my friends, K, two of his friends and the bartender at the spot. In total it was 7 people. The bartender was the only female there and she was doing her thing behind her counter, and the remaining six of us were playing pool and drinking. All of a sudden, the police popped up at the spot and rounded all of us up. Everyone could be seen except K. I was just playing pool with him, where was he?

All 5 of us, except the bartender were arrested, K was no where to be found. All the police wanted was just money, we gave them all we had and they let us go before we even got to the station. We hadn't commited any crime really, we were just playing pool and drinking before the police popped up. We were all searched, and none of us arrested had any weapons on him.
After we were released, all 5 of us went back to the same spot to ask about what happened to K, the bartender said she was shocked. She said the guy just reappeared from no where after the police took us and walked out majestically.

If that's not voodoo, I have no idea what else it is. There was no where to hide in that spot. I still don't have any other explanation for what made someone I was just playing pool with disappear within seconds as soon as police arrived. No he didn't hide anywhere, he didn't go to the bathroom, he didn't run, I was on the same pool table playing with him. So where did he go within seconds? The guy simply disappeared.

Days later, I saw K on campus and asked him what happened the last time we were playing pool, in his words "It wasn't you guys the police were looking for, it was me. So I disappeared. I could see you guys but you guys couldnt see me. But I was there through the whole thing". K naturally never talked too much, he just walked away after saying that. Till today, I still can't understand what he meant. How could he disappear and I couldnt? Arent we both humans? Me and him were about same height, did he fold himself into something tiny? He definitely did something weird. I have googled how to disappear several times, but google comes up with nonsense in my searches. What's the scientific explanation to what K did right there in my presence? I've seen stuff like that in Nigerian movies but that was my first time seeing it live and direct. It was weird and still confusing. I simply cant comprehend it.

Unfortunately K ended up dieing mysteriously. About 200 students went on tour to the beach in about 2 of the school buses. I was one of them. After having so much fun it was time to return to campus. Everyone could be accounted for except K. His gang members said no one was leaving the beach unless K was found. Everyone searched everywhere until it got dark. So we headed back to campus. His members sent some of theirs to the beach to continue searching for him and about three or four days later his body was seen by the beach with his eyes gone.

The only way I can try to comprehend this is that guy did so much jazz. How come he was the only one missing from over 200 students at the same beach with him? He always had his gang members around him for his security at all times. His gang members confirmed he wasn't swimming and had his clothes on. How then did he end up dead in the beach? He obviously drowned, but how can someone drown when they're not swimming nor went close to the water? I can only guess he was trying to do the same disappear trick he did at the snooker spot and ended up in the middle of the beach or something. Everyone else was at the shore of the beach, no one went deep in it. How did he end up there with his clothes on?

Another experience was in my HND days when two rival cult groups had a clash. We could all see them shooting at eachother right in front of our hostel. This particular dude was being shot at and the bullets wouldn't penetrate him. He was screaming loud 'try harder, try harder'. Every one could see it from their windows. Since the bullets wouldn't penetrate him, the rival group just rounded him up, laid him flat on the floor and busted his head with a huge piece of rock and left. That was the end of him. Everyone came out of the hostel to see his lifeless body and his brains right in front of the hostel. Why wouldn't bullets penetrate him if that's not jazz? No, he didn't have on any bulletproof vest.

If both cases i just went over doesnt mean jazz is real, what in the world were those? It's been almost two decades and I still can't come up with a scientific explanation to what I saw with my eyes. Even google doesn't have the answer to both cases. Unless someone has another explanation, both cases I mentioned seem like jazz is real to me.

NaijaElba:
who are the people celebrating nonsense and mediocrity? do you think our leaders are the problem we have? we are the problem of ourselves hence my reason for saying useless citizens.

I understand what you meant. I just thought it would have been better if you didn't generalize. You included yourself, your family, your fans and everyone around you or reading your comment in the 'useless citizens' category you created. Just say many useless citizens and everyone would understand you weren't referring to everyone from Nigeria. Nice writeup bro.

fratermathy:
Nice! There is a woman for every man afterall.

More reason why ladies should quit pretending. One of them just married this one.