₦airaland Forum

ichidodo:
[color=#1980BC] idiotic illiterate minister...It's talks like this that actually pulls down the value of the naira. Instead of you to talk up and promote the strength of the naira so that traders and users out there can gain confidence in it.It is to come and spew trash and make everybody's work to improve its strength including your job more difficult... Illiterate Nincompoop.[/color]

It's not about having confidence. In that sense traders have no choice but to use naira whether they are confident in it or not.

What we should be worried about is people buying dollars as a store of value/assest because she said the rate will go up. This will drive the price up some more.

So yes, i agree woth your general point.

Natbrowny:
I knew this is where its heading to.. I talk am.. Lol. I'm outta here mehn..

Between you, the OP and that clown, i do t know who is more silly.

He is obviously joking and you are taking it so serious! You and the OP.

TimmyA:
How does Peter Obi or Tinubu personality or view relate to the view of Prof Anya. Which one of them has passion against oppression of the masses either through direct or indirect stealing, killing, maiming of both the body and the mind of their subject or opposition

Did i say it does?

jimyjames:
The queen had every power to end the war ,
1) she gave Nigeria independence just six yrs before the war
2) when Gowon and ojukwu went to aburi in Ghana to sign an agreement concerning what was happening to Eastern Nigerians all over Nigeria and how to prevent them from breaking away from Nigeria , all the demands of Easterners was agreed upon by Gowon, but when Gowon returned to Lagos the queens ambassador stopped Gowon from implementating what was agreed upon in Ghana which led to the civil war,
3) the queen sponsored the war by siding with Nigeria shipping weapons to support Nigeria to finish biafrans, warplanes, bomber's machine guns etc

Mr James, the queen has zero power. Shenis allowed to perforn ceremonial roles that appear to have power but in reality all these decisions were taken by the prime minister and parliament.

That's the truth.

gidgiddy:
Stop lying and show us where Decree 34 took financial autonomy from the Regions. The 4 Regions enjoyed resource control throughout Ironsi's 6 months in office

You're already getting aggressive and confrontational when you can google decree 34 yourself.

I have no reason to lie. It is history.

How about you? Feeling defensive about something maybe?

jimyjames:
You said the queen had no real power? She had real power, and what uju was talking about was what happened during Biafra war, the queen had the power to put and end to it with just a snap of the finger, yet she supplied the Nigerian government with weapons is mass destruction to wipe out the biafrans , she had the power

Okay talk me through this one. What is the power of the queen to start and end wars? Do you understand the role of the queen at all??

And did i just read weapons of mass destruction? Can't take you seriously.

mmsen:
The same Mandela that was imprisoned in South Africa and called a terrorist by at least one of her Prime Ministers?

The very same. It's documented.

nahr:
You know I think that she knew the consequences of what that tweet might have before she posted it. I can't call her irrational because she actually went ahead to state her reasons for the tweet. Besides how sure are you that any Irish person of similar standing haven't done such?

Her reasons for feeling the way she felt or her reasoms for feeling the need to tweet what she says she felt?

Either way, no justificstion.

I'm open to being convinced...show me the irish educator of a similar standing who has made such comments.

gidgiddy:
Military rule is not the same as civilian rule. Nobody expects to get the same autonomy in military rule, as they got in civilian rule

However, the false narrative that has been put out there is that it was Ironsi that abolished Regionalism and introduced unitary rule

How is that possible when all 4 Region of the time existed throughout Ironsi's time in office with full resource control and fiscal federalism? Its simply not possible

Contrast that with Gowon who came and promulgated Decree 14 which abolished all 4 Regions, created 12 states and took away resource control

The regions had no such financial autonomy. Decree 34 was quite clear. Look it up.

jimyjames:
As in, hypocritically praise the queen and call her the best woman in the world, and pretend to mourn her death like some fools are doing?

Is that what it means to have a refined mind to you?

- She could have enough sense to know that the queen is a ceremonial head of state that had no real power

- That the queen became queen in 1952, and therefore was not queen when Africa was invaded. Rather, her reign saw the blossoming of the independence movement. The queen was on great terms with most African liberationists including Nkrumah and Mandela.

- That these events, now being in the past cannot be remedied by being hateful.

- That the queen being dead already, cannot be impacted by her hatefulness

Please lets be reasonable.

jimyjames:
So cause uju is a lecturer in the US she shouldn't speak her mind?

The point rather, is that she should have a more refined mind from which to speak.

Qtrpst4:
So you don't think invading another mans land, stealing their resources and even killing their leader is a crime?

Am done with you

1. Was Queen Elizabeth II the queen when these happened?

2. In the English system of governemnt is it the Queen who makes these decisions or the Prime Minister?

Please be done with me because you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

A better use of your time would be in reading your books, not debating rubbish with your betters.

Qtrpst4:
So that includes denying the wickedness done by the Brit's and in particular the queen?

What wickedness did the queen do? I have my pen out, ready to learn from you.

Qtrpst4:
Can we talk about the things you support?
Will you deny they raped women in their colony? Killed people unjustly? Stole from their colony to enrich themselves and amalgamated Nigeria just for business purpose?

And how is tifnubu any different from them, can he say he is not their henchman?

Be careful how you throw words around as you might be the clown here

What does paragraph 1 have to do with insulting the queen upon her death? I'm listening...

What's my business with Tinubu?

broadman20:
How foolish you are, we are talking about the death of a queen and her activities while on earth and you are dragging Nigerian politics into it and expect anybody to learn from your foolishness.

What does the Irish and Ujus reactions got to do with Obi?

Your leaders will always rule over you anyhow in that part of the world because many of you think like idiots.

Oh if he likes he shouldn't learn. Lol...will he be doing me?

And what part of the world am i in, mor.on?

Look, my comment on politics was only an aside but very relevant in demonstrating a point.

Unfortunately we cannot help but draw the lines between the movement he represents amd the values he upholds.

If you don't see the relevance of that in this political season, well you sir, are indeed irredeemably foolish and a complete waste of my time.

The young OP may have a chance though.

nahr:
Yet some people want to have Uju Anya hanged as if she is the only one on twitter who wrote negative things about the late queen.

She's a lecturer at a big university!

A public figure and one that should shape rational behavior!

Which Irish person of a similar standing has done such??

ObidientFC:
Uju Anya is being stereotyped because she is black. She said the mind of everyone who isn't bold enough to speak.
The British Monarchy is evil.

Irish on twitter has set the internet up Jubilating over the death of Queen Elizabeth II.
Read screenshots of excerpt of their tweets

Obedient fc. Interestng the kind of things you support.

Very soon they'll come along and claim Tinubu hired this one to discredit Peter Obi.

Young clowns!

Any way for your education, Uju Anya is a lecturer at a top US university which canot be compared with a random nobody on the net.

Have you gained some sense now? Good boy.

hammer567:
WELCOME TO LESS THAN 6 MONTHS DITATORSHIP.


PLEASE GET OVER IT, THIS IS 2022 NOT 1966.


MAKE TRIBALISM NO KILL YOU THERE. BIGOT!

Where is the tribalism in my comment? I hope you are alright?

obyno82:
How did he concentrate power to the central government? what he did was centralize the civil service to make his administration easier, as similar to a military high command system

The level of control was much higher. Regional governments had a high degree of autonomy not only in running their civil services but also in expenditure. They could execute policy directions of their own, similar to State governors of today.

The military governors were just subordinates who served at the whim of the military head of state.

hammer567:
IT WAS A MILITARY DICTATORSHIP, WITH A REGIONALISM.


THE SAME CANNOT BE SAID FOR GOWON.

It was a relay race. One person started the work, and another finished it but without question, Ironsi started it. It was a very unpopular move back then, but guess who supported it out of the regional governors? Ojukwu alone.

hammer567:
U STILL HAD YOUR REGIOANLISM AND REGIONAL MILITARY GOVERNOR.


THE SHIFT AWAY FROM REGIONALISM STARTED WITH GOWON, CREATION OF 12 STATES.

The regions were mere administrative units with no autonomy from the centre. These military governors were answerable to the Military head of State. This act of Ironsi's was indeed the real end of regionalism.

Ironically, it cost him his life as that decree led to the riots that ended in the June 66 coup.

obyno82:
Nooooo let us be realistic here Ironsi said an i quote the regions would be abolished and replaced with collection of provinces that would be under the provincial administrator, let me ask is it not provinces that make up regions? so what he did was abolish the name region, then to ensure assimilation that would encourage unity they would be called collection of provinces. He wanted to eliminate the tribalism associated with regionalism. It was actually Gowon who removed regionalism and created 12 states

You are missing the point because you are fixated on labels. Region, province, state, or whatever, this is the point: Ironsi abrogated the autonomy of the regions and concentrated power in the central government in a unitary military system of government.

The regions remained in principle after this, but their autonomy was stripped, and their governors were military governors answerable to Ironsi in the military hierarchy.

Wintertime:
If history is to be teach in every school. Each school will have a different side of history


Now they lied the man whose tenure didn't last and after his death

Each region still has their premier leader

Yet they accuse Aguiyi Ironsi

It was 100% Ironsi who scrapped it or at least, laid the foundation for it to be scrapped so as to consolidate power at the center.

The history books are clear on this and there is no different side to be told because the records are clear and many of those who witnessed it are still alive today.

The body language shows that they do love each other.

Arm placement in the hugs indicates an emotional bond, i.e

The arms around the neck, with head on the shoulder is indicative of trust and support.

I would say this couple just don't smile. Or maybe they had some bad news.

Eya. Not sure why i'm sad.

FreeStuffsNG:
And you are here behind a moniker 'caging' them. wehdone

Grow up.

chloedogie:
Don't mind them. News says met with pdp aspirants. Is wike running for any office? Lazy journalism is what we have all around us now. Genz

Can you hear yourself?

Go back and read. Be sure to understand.

Samuelnze:
Wike should take it easy oh.



Because he Atiku moves on with his presidential ambition caring less about him,wike might become irrelevant in politics

Wike will stroll into the senate when he finishes as governor. Atiku can't stop it

FreeStuffsNG:
Why not just try and join boko haram to find out Talk is cheap o. He was travelling round the world to shop for lethal weapons and artillery while funding the best training for the armed forces , now anyone messing with our armed forces air, water and land will be finished by Buhari. Do not try him. He is an infantry General , did same thing at war front during the civil war,and the early 80s. He is doing same to the Elzakky zaky sect.
He shows no mercy to any enemy of Nigeria.

Thats a bunch of rubbish.

I can categorically tell you that our army is being caged in the fight against terrorism.

But Burna boy said he's not a Nigerian artist. So why is he dragging "first Nigerian" anything?

PS712:
This operation would have degraded the elements around those areas (FCT, Niger and Kaduna) but does that translate to annihilation threats posed around Zamfara, Sokoto, Katsina and Kebbi states; Borno and Yobe states; Eastern states (unknown gunmen); Plateau, Benue and Taraba states (herdsmen militia attacks) and by extension concluding that insecurity in the entire country has been addressed?
Well, we pray and say amen.

In some respects.

What was happening is that the terrorists were migrating because the military has made the north east too difficult for them. So now they are essentially encircled.

When last did you hear of an attack in those states you mentioned?

PS712:
I believe I am not alone in the hope and prayer that this should be true, that is, that insecurity in the country should end!
But then, no human in his senses (I mean one who is driven by reasoning not someone with religious, ideological, political or ethnic bias) will just accept this pronouncement without having questions deep within-
Just like that, in one day and at a particular time the minister of Information, ministers in charge of security organizations/agencies in the country, the CDS and heads of the Security agencies gather to announce to the entire country as well as the whole world that the Security challenge the country was facing has been addressed.
Particularly from these statements by the Hon. Minister of Information -
"... Please don’t misunderstand or misrepresent this assertion because we may still witness isolated cases of security challenges here and there, but it will not be on the scale that we have witnessed in the past, he assured.

The minister said the successes recorded were sequel to the directive of President Muhammadu Buhari to the military to crush those terrorizing the citizens and there should be no hiding place for them...".

Five months before general elections..
Less than nine (9) months before the administration (2 terms) under this regime winds up...
Seven(7) years of grappling with this menace of insecurity (having inherited it from previous) but it got heightened and kept the tempo for long...
Throughout the seven years of this administration lots of strongly worded directives were given to heads of security organizations to crush the bad elements causing insecurity, especially whenever a big attack was carried out.., and there have been huge budgetary allocations every year just to fight insecurity yet insecurity kept waxing strong...
Heads of security agencies were changed more than once or twice in some cases...
Then without any other obvious and special act by way of new style of combating these elements who have kidnapped students in Greenfield university, and in several secondary schools; kidnapped residents and Travellers in both North and south; attacked and killed military, police and other security personnel and formations in both North and south; killed both Christian and Muslim worshippers in North and South; rural and urban settlements... etc.
Then all of a sudden, we are told via joint press conference it is solved using the same usual approach (of directives to military) that henceforth only cases of isolated attacks will we witness... (instead of Nigerians being the ones to observe that there's improvement in security)...
What was done differently because it can't be the same directives that have been issued from day one of the past seven years that solved the problem finally?
Whether a paradigm shift in security is observed henceforth or it is not, there will be reactions that will trail this press release because of the gap of what and how differently the matter was addressed?

There was a definite shift in operations.

This followed the assault of Abuja, and particularly the threat to the Nigerian Law School and the ambush of the guards brigade.

Following this there was an immediate amd heavily coordinated push by the guards brigade into the neighbouring areas of Kaduna, Niger and Kogi.

The guards brigade are elite and well equipped troops but their usual remit is to guard Abuja. Bandits cannot go toe to toe with them for even a day.

For now what we are seeing is the authorities finally bringing usuing our full strength.