BankyGee:
Happy birthday to me guys!

Happy Birthday bro!
Enjoy your Day to the fullest!

Nickshrapnel:
If the movie turns out to be a success, I have a feeling WB/DC may redesign Black Adam to look more like Dwayne. The same way Marvel did with Nick Fury.

Yes

Skseries:
let's just say baba cannot do accent ni jare. I dont think he puts in much work like other actors, his charisma and fan love is what helps him.

I am very sure if he wanted to do an accent no body will have stopped him,

I actually think so too. He either didn't want to put much training into it or WB just want to introduce Shazam to the world in the form of Dwayne The Rock Johnson...

Skseries:
they make it sound as if when u read comics u hear accent

No na.... Even any animation series Black Adam is he speaks with his native accent.. And it's more ideal for any character to speak english with his/her native tongue rather than the American's when you've not lived there.
What I think is: WB and New Line Cinema are marketing this Black Adam's movie as a Dwayne The Rock Johnson movie (like Black Adam playing Dwayne Johnson) and not actually Black Adam movie with the true embodiment of Black Adam personality, but Dwayne's, because presently, The Rock personality in the showbiz/entertainment industry is too big to ignore for an unknown character by main stream audience.
That's just how I perceived it to be.

Vulcanheph:
Please someone should please tell those guys up there ( SMAUG & GloriousGbola ) to take a chill pill and stop spreading VAWULENCE.

This thread is for DC comics movies, shows etc.

That's truth.... I pledge to DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE, henceforth.....

GloriousGbola:


Fa-ggot, eh

Now we're talking.

Come on, come out of your closet

Was it as good for you as it was for me

No? Bend over

You just keep proving how redundant, jobless, and Nairaland drain (addict) you're for perfectly knowing that typing the word fa-ggot correctly will be automatically replaced with a softer or less offensive word, cause I did do so and it was replaced by the Admin..

GloriousGbola:



That's Mr Inglourious Basterd to you, Daenerys' Abortion.

See how poorly read you are? You can't even spell the movie right.

Abi you watched the Chinese knockoff sorry spin off by Kwantin Tarashino

I think Daenerys' Abortion is a more accurate moniker for you. You are a sad excuse for a dragon.

Takes you forever to get that flame going and then all you blow is smoke


Now bend the knee and deepthroat this gloriousgbola

Let your mouth be good for something

At least if there is a dick in it you will shut up and stop disturbing people here

Are we doing Akeelah and the Bee here that I need to spell perfectly for a slowpoke who does nothing more than using funny grammars and virtually trying to spend his whole life here....lol
I can see, gradually pushing your bobrisky agenda here stylishly by looking for a daft one like you to ingloriously deep-throat. For the CLEAR RECORD, I don't think there is that thing you're longing for here, maybe try the MCU thread, I don't know you might see one there, gay.

GloriousGbola:


The worst part of this banter is your poor and slow as molasses wit.

It takes you half an hour to come up with an attempt at a response.

Maybe if I told you my race, colour, religion, sexual preference or tribe you could fill the empty space with bigoted jibes. That seems to be the limit of your wit, after all.

Must be hard when you aren't merely copy and pasting someone else's edge lord hot takes.

Read more books and expand your vocabulary. Not only will you spend less time disturbing your betters by posting shit, you will not be intimidated by basic English.

Look at you calling simple diction big ambiguous words

This is how we know a useless and jobless man...so you think all my time will be spent here with one inglorious bastard abi na inglorious gbola just the way he has nothing else doing...
I respond when I wish and when I like, psychopath...
That's why when I said you're just full of ambiguous words, but no sense you thought was just insulting you, but why the actual sense I was even advising you, INGLORIOUS BASTARD......sorry Gbola...

GloriousGbola:


guy, why are you describing your community na. it is clear the people who surround you are unlettered and unthinking. show me your friend and i will tell you who you are. the community of black redneck bigots

small wonder you have been posting rubbish up and down. if you are to lazy to even get the basic history of the hobbit as a book, small wonder you are wasting everyone's time with your barely reasoned ruminations about black adam.

this is not your community's beer parlor where you are the resident brain because you were only dropped on your head once versus twice for everyone else

This is how fools write, making use of ambiguous words doesn't make you look smart or sound intelligent, rather it makes you look embarrassing and lack better narrative to push your points...
The Black Adam you mentioned here attest more to your funny being, buffoon...
Big words won't save you from being very myopic. Keep using them to shelter your inferiority complex...
Omoko like your type dey very good at crossing before watching...lol
Like I said show me the children you know that have read any of the book, including your community, even if they are fantasy books for children...

GloriousGbola:


i forgot that bigots are usually unlettered or barely literate

thanks fro reminding us of this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit


the hobbit barely made it to 300 pages. Smaug was in less than four of those pages.

but what do semi literate bigots know? like those nutcases who dress as punisher of homelander - completely missing the point of teh characters

Like how stupidity is clouding your reasoning...
Book for children but 90% of kids then and present have not read it... If you doubt then bring out your whole community let's see if any had during his/her early age...

GloriousGbola:


says the self-servicer who picked its moniker from a bit character in a children's book

Children's book you say....!

abduleez1:


Rest zealot. You're making no sense.

I don't need to make your kind of sense.....

GloriousGbola:


Dayum, you were so throughly beaten up, dissected and humiliated by abduleez1 that your only sliver ifof a faint hope at an attempt to earn a pyrrhic victory was to attack his religion

Pussy ass nigga.

The smaug of the books and the movie was a real O. G. Peter Jackson and JRRT would be appalled at the small minded cretins appropriating the character

Extremely ironic and daft as abduleez1 does not carry religion on his head.

I can really see your name...it says more about your persona here....
I'm just knowing now that Taliban and Al-Qa'ida are actually a religion....wow

abduleez1:


You still dey make noise and not making any coherent sense. Hare-brained mofo wey lack comprehension dey claim knowledge. Wetin Musa no go see for gate.
Educate yourself first before u dey wail Al Qaeda.
CLOWN.

Thank God say you identify yourself well, Taliban...

100naira:
banter and vawulence are part of this section but to attack his religion is taking it too far don't you think?

Yeah, but bantering isn't the same as trying to throw jab at someone.
We all love banter and vawulence, but we don't go astray by using the slightest chance to insult others, but he loves doing so...

100naira:
bro wtf is this?

I hate when someone can't express his/her point without throwing jab at the other person...
I like taking things simple, but when you decide to fight dirty I don't shy away. He should learn how to choose his words wisely...

abduleez1:


Lol, na so e pain you reach. No sensible thing to argue again na to come for my religion. Mr Civilised wey no Sabi simple English. you normal na en you dey argue spin off and sequel with everybody since how many days despite facts proving you wrong. Only u.

Still doesn't stop you from being a CLOWN. You just confirmed your CLOWNSHIP.

That's why I go still say, na that arabic school wey dey road side fit you.....
I posted a video where people that knows what spin-off and standalone is, yet you can't help yourself. Rather, you went ahead to post something that never show any sign of Black Adam as a spin-off, but no, your Al-Qa'ida thinking made it worst for you instead.
By your Tali's thinking, if Superman and Batman suppose to share one movie, then the studio decide to split am into two parts and release Superman first and Batman later so that one make Batman spin-off from Superman. So what if they release Black Adam first wetin your peanut brain go come think then...

abduleez1:


That guy na CLOWN you still dey respond to am.
As I saw the okoto I just weak.

Make him tell us how citizens of Khandaq should sound like since na linguist. Abi where we get Black Adam in media before.

I believe say the day you go fit think like normal person then that your Taliban name go change for good...
I no blame you, if no be MCU and DCEU or internet of today, Taliban like you for still dey struggle to know who b Shazam sef....

abduleez1:
Were that noisemaker weyrey wey dey cap effortlessly??

Hope niqqa go shut up now.

I see say u can't think critically at all....so make I leave am that way...

Xavier5:


GOD TIER. OMOH, SUPERMAN AND SHAZAM DEY LEARN WORK WHERE THIS ONE DAY

YOU COULD FEEL THE POWER, THE RAGE, THE PASSION.

THE HIERARCHY OF POWER IS ABOUT TO CHANGE IN THE DC UNIVERSE.

THE SCENES WERE BLACK ADAM THREW THAT THUG INTO THE SKY AND SLAMMED ON THE FIGHTER JET WERE FVCKING HILARIOUS

FROM THE LOOK OF THINGS, DWAYNE JOHNSON ISN'T PLAYING DWAYNE JOHNSON BUT BLACK ADAM. HE MAY BE VERSATILE IN THIS MOVIE AS HE PROMISED BUT LET'S WAIT AND SEE.

I CAN'T WAIT FOR OCTOBER 21


#XAVIER
#DCian

Do you even know Black Adam at all. So Black Adam talks like American now. Ogbeni, make we Just enjoy the movie and move on.
All the actions look fantastic!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFBWg8moL44

Xavier5:


Dude it's not my logic, it's your logic. That's what you said. According to you, a CBM must gross very high before it is termed a success. I was only pointing the ridiculous of your logic contrary to industry standards, but as usual, all because you want to win an argument, you want to claim I said so. Why don't you me show me where I said so?
If you read my arguments, which you don't, you won't be uttering this nonsense.

One more thing, according to industry standards, high grooser starts from $700M, so yes The Batman and SS is a high grosser contrary to your own conceived ideology.



A film base on a villain of a character set in the same universe and is connected to that character's movie is a spin off of that character's film.

They're so many examples of spinoffs but this is one of them.

Ask yourself,

1.) Is Suicide Squad and The Suicide Squad base on the BvS' villain? NO
2.) Is SS and TSS about a major character in BvS? NO
3.) Does Wikipedia and the media say SS and TSS are spin off of BvS? NO.
4.) Does Wikipedia and the media say Black Adam is a spin off of Shazam? YES.
5.) Does Wikipedia and the media say BvS and TSS are sequels to MoS and SS respectively? YES.
6.) Does Wikipedia and the media carry verified information? YES.

So what's the argument about? Dude you're just desperate to win an argument to the point you're sounding very ridiculous. It's not about winning an argument, it's about being sensible. You're sounding irrational right now.

Below are screenshots of what I said earlier, take a look at them incase you didn't read them earlier and see how ridiculous your statements are.

To be sincere, I'm tired of this stupid argument, argument where I have to be repeating the same thing over and over to you. This is the last time I will reply you concerning this matter.

#Xavier
#DCian

Mr rational, I never said MoS was a success (that'swell successful), I only bank on the premise that it was a good start for a universe. Go back and check what brought about this argument rather than thinking you are sounding intelligent...
Put MoS and Shazam's box office numbers and their budgets I will take MoS because the market/audience is already there, what is left is for me to make improvement and am sure to get a better returns... Irrespective of the budget the numbers weren't bad at all to kick start something huge... WB might decided not to do a sequel propabably not because of its box office numbers, but because of how difficult it is to do a believable and compelling story That to them audience can relate with. Mind us, Superman is one of the most difficult character to put a believable movie out there if not the most so it might not necessarily means the other way...

Nickshrapnel:
Suicide Squad is not a spin-off from BvS. Spin-offs[b] focus more on a particular character(s) or event from an earlier movie.[/b]

Black Adam movie will tell the story of how he was imprisoned for 5,000 years which was hinted in the first movie, his likeness was even used as a hologram in the movie.

What you are saying doesn't justify that it's a spin-off. Many standalone movies had/have done that without being called a spin-off.

Xavier5:


So let me get it straight, a movie about a villain of a character set in the same universe, that is referenced in the movie of that character is not a spin off of that character's movie. So until a filmmaker comes and tell you that it's a spin off before you know it's a spin off. It's common sense. It's like someone saying, carrying satanic Bible to church is not wrong since no one told him so, common sense will tell you that it's not proper to do so. It's not everything the filmmaker will tell you.
Aside that, Wikipedia and the media refers to Black Adam as a spin off. Do you think the media and Wikipedia, especially Wikipedia will refer to Black Adam as a spin off if it isn't? Wikipedia carries verified information, it's not a platform for hoax.
For example: Wikipedia says BvS is a sequel to MoS, this is an information that the studio and Zack has confirmed themselves. In other words, Wikipedia and the media but especially Wikipedia won't and doesn't carry unverified information. If Wikipedia says BvS is a sequel to MoS, then it is. If Wikipedia says Black Adam is a spin off of Shazam, then it is. You don't need a filmmaker to come tell you that, Wikipedia and the media are their mouthpiece.
But if you still want to keep up with the "show me where the filmmaker said it" despite the informations from the media, Wikipedia and common sense, then suit yourself.



If Shazam is a flop then MoS is a flop because the ideology you possessed makes a mess of MoS. According to you, since it's CBM, not just any CBM but an A-list CBM, MoS should gross a billion. As a matter of fact, the minimum MoS should have grossed should be $800M but funny enough it didn't, it is movies like WW, Suicide Squad ($721M) and Aquaman that did.
According to your logic, MoS is a massive flop, but guess what, I'm not using your logic, I'm using industry standard.

Meet an Industry analyst and ask him if MoS or Shazam are flops, his answer will be no, contrary to yours.
As a matter of fact, in Hollywood, the same rules applies for all genres as regards financial analysis. There is no special law assigned to CBMs. If you think such law exist, it's in your head, it's something you conceived, it's not real.

In Hollywood, if a movie irrespective of genre has a budget of $100M and below, they're regarded as medium or low budgeted movies, and for such films,to determine their success, high grosser is not been considered rather emphasis is on profitability. That doesn't mean if such film grosses high, it won't be a acknowledged, it will but the emphasis is not on that.
For high budgeted films, films with over $100M budget, both high grosser and profitability is been considered for it to be termed a success. Most CBMs are high budgeted films which means they need to gross both high and be profitable to be seen as successful except the very few CBMs that are low or medium budgeted.

So according to industry standards, MoS isn't a flop but a disappointment while Shazam is a success. It doesn't matter whether you agree with it or not, that's the standard industry rule, not some made up shit.



1.) Going with the 3x multiplier rule to determine BEP, since actual break even point (BEP = production budget + marketing budget) of the films aren't known, the $1.2B movie is a loss while the $450M is even, neither profitable or a loss. This begs the question, what's the essence of grossing $1.2B if you're still going to be a loss? This is business, you look at the returns to the company, not just how much the movie grossed. So yes, going with industry standard, $1.2B film is a massive flop while the $450M is neither flop or success.

2.) MoS with a budget of $200M never grossed one billion, it couldn't even grossed $700M. It struggled to gross $668M and churned in a profit of a meager $42M while Shazam with a $100M budget, despite grossing $363M raked in a profit of $73M.
So between MoS and Shazam, which one is more successful? Industry standard says Shazam but your ideology says none.

3.) Both films are high budgeted films, $500M and $150M respectively, which means, according to industry standard, for them to be successful, they will have to gross high and be profitable, of which both of them failed.
Film A grossed high, $1.2B, but didn't make profit but rather a loss of $300M while Film B was a medium grosser, $450M and was neither profitable nor a loss.
But in the case of MoS and Shazam, MoS is a high budgeted movie ($200M) while Shazam is a medium or low budgeted movie ($100M). Between the two, any movie that has the burden of grossing high according to industry standards, is MoS but it failed, grossing medium of $668M and raking in a meager $42M unlike Shazam who is free from such high grosser burden. All it needs to do is to be profitable and it was well profitable with $73M.
So once again, according to industry standards, Shazam is a success while MoS isn't a failure albeit a disappointment. Any contrary view, is in your head.


#Xavier
#DCian

Stop shooting yourself on the feet, cause by this your logic an A-list character at least need to do 800m or billion to see it as successful one so can you call the current The Batman movie a failure even if it turn out profit.... As for me, NO, it was a huge success for a starting point.
Was Suicide Squad and The Sucide Squad spin-offs from BvS and the first Suicide Squad since they are both villains from same universe that reference more about their first movie(s)? Especially the first Suicide Squad to BvS... clear me abeg...
Your logic supposed to exclude Suicide Squad in that category knowing fully well that it didn't do the 800m or billion mark, and also, the greatest A-list Villain, Joker and over A-list Hero Batman were in that movie since you like grading your failure and success that way...lol Or maybe because it was not directed by Zack so you saw it differently. For me, it was a success regardless of who and who was in it.

abduleez1:


See I'm getting tired of this back and forth cos it's getting stale already cos you just seem to stray from logic & facts and dwell on emotions.

Iron Man was considerable popular to an extent. Not mainstream popular as of now but you can call him a B-list character based on popularity then. You can't say the same for Shazam. Prolly C-list at best if not D-list.
Even the seniors you're claiming he's popular amongst will most notably know him as Captain Marvel and not Shazam!

Before the Iron Man movies I most definitely has seen Marvel animations featuring IM.
Have you seen Shazam in animations of old or seldom remember him in your childhood entertainment? Let's be reasonable and stop capping nonsense. Have u ever seen Shazam merchandise?

You're also blatantly ignoring when Shazam was released. The movie went up against a juggernaut of Endgame and Marvel's Captain Marvel. 3 weeks apart being sandwiched by two MCU Event movies. There was no way that movie would have wiggle room to gross more in such competition especially when it's not even a well known character.
Popular in the 50s, 60s yes. In 21st century? NO.

This is my last statement on this Shazam back and forth.

Stop making excuses for a flop..
If you are going by that logic, then there are 1001 movies that were not known before their release dates but did wonders .

abduleez1:


Lol, this guy confidently sit down dey yarn ridiculousness.

Black Adam is a spinoff of Shazam!! I've heard it countless times. Black Adam was originally supposed to appear in the Shazam 2019 movie. But they changed it midway due to the star power of Dwayne Johnson who can carry a film of his own and DC's need to give other characters solo projects. It's killing two birds with one stone.

Do you also know WB plan or planned for Black Adam to face off Superman and Shazam?

Rest. If you don't know Birds of Prey is a spin off of Suicide Squad 2016. Same as Peacemaker is a spin of TSS.

No doubt for Bird of Prey and Peacemaker and these two movie and series were cleared by their directors about them being spin-offs...

abduleez1:


Still trash statement considering the movie's metrics and circumstances. Lol.
Shazam is popular with adult audience, na en dem no turn up for the movie in droves.

Anyway, if you want to delude yourself, you're absolutely free. Industry standards disagree with u. Fight with your keyboard if you believe otherwise.

Was Iron Man popular before it did 500+ in ithe first Iron Man movie...
So your understanding is that Shazam wasn't popular that's why it didn't get a juggernaut numbers...lolz

Xavier5:


That moment when someone wants to win an argument by all means but they end up sounding ridiculous. It's not about winning an argument, it's about making sense.

* Facts: Black Adam is the spin off of Shazam just like Peacemaker is to TSS.
A spin off is a film that branches out from an existing film or franchise and has connections to it.
Black Adam was originally meant to be in Shazam but the studio decided that he should have his own movie but not without referencing him in Shazam.
Aside that, Black Adam is scheduled as the nemesis of Shazam in the DCEU which means he stems out of Shazam. A movie based on the villain of a character in a franchise is a spin off of that character. The studio or filmmaker doesn't have to tell you, it's common sense.
Black Adam movie exist because Shazam exist. If there was no Shazam, they wouldn't have been Black Adam, not in the DCEU.

* Facts: Shazam is more profitable than MoS with a net profit of $73M to MoS' $42M just like Suicide Squad is more profitable than BvS with $158M to $103M.
Funny enough, it had to take MoS grossing $668M to have a profit of just $42M, imagine if Shazam had grossed MoS numbers.
And according to industry standard, MoS isn't a high grosser. High grossing starts from $700M, while medium grosser is from $300M to $699.9M. MoS just like Shazam is a medium grosser, they're both in the same category.

* Facts: MoS 2 wasn't part of Snyder original plan. Before you argue unnecessarily, do me a favour and find out his original plan. The movies slated were;
MoS, BvS, SS, WW, JL, Aquaman, Cyborg, Flash, GL, The Batman, JL 2 and JL 3.
Every other rumoured movie were either just rumours or were movies that were to be take place after Snyder had either rebooted the DCEU or time jumped it 20 to 30 year into the future, which was a wonky plan by the way.
So if Snyder was still in charge, you wouldn't have gotten MoS 2.
NEWS FLASH: According to Snyder, BvS is the sequel to MoS. If you want to argue with that, take your argument to Zack.

* Facts: The reason there is no MoS 2 is not because of its revenue rather because WB/DC, for reasons best known to them, plans to reboot the DCEU via The Flash first before producing the movie.
WB/DC has plans for two superman films (one DCEU movie and val zod series). The movie may not be MoS 2 but it will definitely be a superman movie with Henry Cavill (it is rumoured he will appear in the Flash probably at the end of the movie where the JL of the rebooted DCEU will be introduced).
WB/DC wants to reboot the universe first before they produced critical films like Superman and JL. The series probably will be cancelled but the movie will pull through. After The Flash, the next DCEU movie slate will include JL and Superman movies.
If you have been following DC infos, you should have known about this, they wouldn't have been need for all this noise about MoS 2.


#Xavier
#DCian

All this your explanations of spin-off can also serve as sequel or extended universe if you really check what you wrote.. and that is why I said, show me where the director called it a spin-off and I will rest. All spin-off series or movies I have seen or watched, the studio or director always make it clear from the beginning that it's a spin-off, but Black Adam case has been different...
Medium grosser and high grosser, another means to massage your ego that Shazam wasn't a flop... Oga, that number na flop category e dey as long as cbm is concerned this days or all the DC fans and main stream audience go for holidays during its released.. Or are you trying to say that if a movie budget is 500m and it grossed 1.2b and another movie budget is 150m and it grossed 450m, so we should let go the one with 1.2b just because it's net profit isn't higher....forgetting that, doing that number is a sign that there is a better and potentially better market share/audience for it if they try improve on certain areas....