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[quote author=Über-Pissed]tax abi Agbereo dues
No be tinibu wallet all the money dey enter?
E[/quote]Is this supposed to be a forum for people educated enough to make a coherent contribution?

@topic: Is this victim complex not already bothering on psychological disorder?

FLYFIRE: Bros, you make me laugh. We are not going to depend on these ones that you have mentioned...they have failed even before they started..And to hear Festus tag along with Olorogun...that speaks alot for an `activist`.

APC just started and PDP started and failed woefully this past 14 years.
To me, i cant imagine anything worst than a completely hopeless and clueless party like PDP.
That is why we swept them away from every nooks and cranies of the south west and we a very much better for it.
That is why the people of edo state swept them away and are very much better for it.
That is why the people of delta state must sweep them away and they will be better for it.

[quote author=2ru-talk]APC = Association of Past Criminals[/quote]What would that then make PDP? The party of Alams and ibori!Association of many many convicted criminals!

[quote author=overkill®]Festus Keyamo I like your person but I'm sorry to inform you that your popularity ends in Lagos.

You guys know nothing about delta state politics or the Niger delta as a whole. They are die-hard Pdp members! And all your APC rants ends in South west and the north. #my2centthough#[/quote]Most people said the same thing when Adams oshiomole chose to vie for the governorship of Edo state before the 2007 election.
But the same Edo state that was 100% PDP then is almost 100% APC now.
You are underestimating the people's desire for change from a succession of PDP Govt that represents nothing but incompetence and larceny of the people's resources in the last 14 years.
The days of a one party state in delta state is over for good!

PointB: Apology my brother,

I thought I was talking to that clown softman.

You have my response already.But if you think you will provoke me to descend to the level of personal abuse with you, then you ve got another think coming. I don't engage fellow nairalanders in personal abuse. I just come here to express my views and i expect you to express yours. Have a good day.

alexchiny: Out with the names!

There is no need for us to drag this any further. You have stated your views and i have stated mine. If we both are not careful this whole thing we degenerate into personal abuse and another round tribal exchange of slurs on this forum.
I can see that is the direction we are going right now.we will only end up derailing yet another thread.
By the way i need to run along. I promise you will get a response to any other post as soon as i log back on.Have a nice day.

PointB: You are the clown here. You love him, take him, and make his your governor and stop disturbing the peace of Anambra people who have settled for Soludo!

Anambra people held a meeting somewhere and appointed you as their spokesperson on the way they will vote in the forthcoming election? You guys are sounding the way shameless impostors operate.
Each person on this forum speaks for him or herself and should not purport to speak for anyone other than themselves.
As for making Ngige the next governor of lagos state, i do not pretend to speak for anyone other than myself and find the nonsensical suggestion undeserving of any serious response.

alexchiny: Civilized? My Region didn't breed the likes of Adedibu,Alao Akala,Tokyo and co.

i don't want to derail this thread, but believe me your region breeds worse

clint77ng: The same way APC asked GEJ to join them.

like Jonathan's aides, some of you guys do not have a sense of humor.
But seriously speaking,at the level of Jonathan's desperation he might just do that if he thinks it will guarantee his re-election!

clint77ng: Because he didnt support your party's candidate?

No Sir. because he did not support his own party's candidate- that is if this story is true.

EasternLeopard: Support APGA in order not to lose APGA to APC merger. Who says GEJ is not wise.

he has also demonstrated that he is a political coward and a desperate opportunist who would act against the interest of a party he is leader of for his own selfish interest.
He has also lost the moral authority of a leader to caution party member on anti-party behavior.
At best he is foolishly wise.

alexchiny: Bullocks! Stay put cuz more stoning are coming his way during his campaign. let the foolish midget come down to Onitsha first!

Interestingly, no single newspaper carried this news. not one. No pictures nothing has been reported of this event.
Assuming it is true, it is very wrong.Stoning is barbaric and primitive.
what any civilized person who do not like a candidate should do is simply not vote for them.
This is a democracy.We should not set dangerous precedent,for example, are we saying if Jonathan goes to Borno state to campaign and he was stoned or attacked, it will be justified? If you do not like ngige wait for the election proper to cast your vote for the candidate of your choice.Do not threaten to disrupt any candidates campaign.That's what touts and political thugs are paid to do.

alexchiny: And that made her a PDP member? huh? FYI, Peter Obi is more principled than all the South Western Governors put together. Not to mention the Okija shrine visiting Ngige.

We are discussing peter obi here. Does his actions depict that of a principled man who believes in his own party and its candidates? i was expecting you to address the points i raised instead of obfuscating.
As for Ngige visiting okija:making a mistake, admitting it and retracing your steps is what is called courage of character.
He could have simply abide by the oath,deliver 1 billion naira to the Ubas every month like mbadinuju did. But he choose to serve his people instead of the Ubas.That is a profile in courage.

Melancholy: But when gej promised free and fair election which came to pass people like you and the opposition were congratulating him that yes nigeria is in a capable hand.Other development which is on going are there to see. I guess, Akande is a confutionist!

we should give jonathan an award for not rigging an election? what kind of thinking is this? Akande is not the confusionist, jonathan is the one that confused.

luvinhubby: You don't expect otherwise from a man whose children's school fees are being paid by Tinubu.

* in sergeant-major's voice*.. NEEXT!!

For your information, all baba's kid are gainfully employed graduates.
* in sergeant-major's voice*.. NEEXT PROPAGANDA FROM PDP!!

Bliss4Lyfe: Ngige was actually stoned. Damage limitation, it won't work.

And no newspaper , not one carried it. it is such significant news that at least one newspaper or radio or TV would have corroborated it.

Bliss4Lyfe: Ngige for Lagos State Gov 2015. Dayo and Co can make it happen.

For me , he is also the best igbo presidential material so far. Even if Ngige comes third or fourth in the coming election, i will consider it a moral victory.

PointB: Softwareman, you rush to answer question directed to someone else and made a mess of yourself. Ifebosco call those rooting for APGA/ Soludo tribalist and I asked which tribe are they against? Perhaps comprehension is a little difficult for you.

it is a public forum so i can respond to every post.
I am sorry if made a mess of myself, but the question i responded to was clearly quoted.
Please do not let us descend to the level of personal abuse. if you disagree with any of my views, just state yours.

Orikinla: Soludo was a corrupt governor of the apex bank.

Soludo covered up the rot in the banking industry for years because the bankers have bought him over.As a result the nigerian banking industry was on the verge of a systemic failure if he has not be replaced with sanusi.

2. when he was initiating the so called banking reform, he promised that more funds will be available for the real sector and interest rate will come down. the precise opposite happened. on the contrary, soludo's banking reform brought unprecedented corruption and sleaze to the Nigerian banking industry.

3.Nine of the twenty five banks were later found to have been insolvent right from soludo's time. instead of taking reformative action, he provided a window to cover up his friends.
4. until sanusi came to introduce proper risk management measures, soludo corruptly looked the other way while his banker friends were siphoning depositors money like oil thieves in the niger dlta.
Soludo was not only a corrupt governor of the apex bank , he was also a failed governor of the apex bank.

alexchiny: You said a lot here without making any sense! I never knew Dora was a card carrying PDP member. doofus!! Like i said ealier, sit your butt somewhere and painfully watch Ngige lose the election again. Yall can use him and replace Fashola come 2015!

i will jiggle your memory further. Dora picked up APGA membership card only a few weeks to the senatorial election just like Soludo did last week.
You did not respond to my assertion that obi is a completely unprincipled politician who do not believe in his own party and its members and who will betray a oft repeated promise(to a zone and a political associate-obaze)at the drop of a hat.
I will wait for your response a little while before signing off.

PointB: tribalism you said? Pray which tribe is APC?

There are hausas, igbos, yorubas etc in APC.
But since you guys are now in the business of defining who really is igbo or not and which igbo is full blooded or half blooded, and which ones are lagos igbos, kano igbos, jos igbos, ibadan igbos etc, may be i should ask you which flavor of igbo is rochas okorocha, chris ngige and the many , many illustrious sons of igbos in APC are?

i understand from some of you biafranist massob sympathisers on this forum that any igbo son that does not support jonathan and the PDP faction of APGA is not a full blooded igbo!
first class dyed in the wool tribalists calling other people tribalist.

alexchiny: Shut it! Will you? Part of the reasons why some APGA faithfuls really dont like Obis is because of that election, his refusal not to influence that election amidst massive rigging from ACN. Yet, it took a run-off for the sell out dwarf to win. If he were that powerful, how come he was floored TWICE mercilessly by Obi? If the dwarf were that popular, how come after the 2010 guber results were announced, all we witnessed was wild celebration throughout Anambra and no single protest? Yall should keep deceiving yourselves, thank God the election is around the corner.

Influence the election? in what ways. Did he campaign for his party's candidate or not? but may be obi does not really believe in APGA or its members. he seems to always look up to PDP for APGA candidates when it comes to crucial elections.
Dora and all his senatorial candidates in the last election are PDP members. Now it is time for governorship, he has gone to beg another PDP member to be his candidate. This is the same obi that was talking zoning to anambra north and propping up the current secretary of the state government only a few weeks ago.
This Obi utterly lacks principle and is consistently inconsistent.
Truly, even if Ngigge loses this coming election massively, he has proven one important thing most of us do not usually associate igbo politicians with. Principle and the moral courage to stick with your belief and friends no matter what.
Peter obi will not know what principle and character is, if you gave him with the kiss of life!

dandollaz: u still dey sleep on top of bike that can be possible last 2 months b4 the deportation saga.I'm from the same zone with ngige but I'm ashamed of his comment on the matter.hope you remember the comment of john McCain with Obama in 08 that America economy is still strong that was the statement that made him loose in USA. The same goes to ngige to support what fashola did.ngige should apologise b4 is too late.

You mean before the deportation saga, ngige would have won the governorship of anambra state on the platform of ACN?
You know it would only have happened over jonathan and obi combined dead body!

kel4soft: Nonsence! When the speaker visited the opposition state. I thought you guys said, it was anti party.

An hypocrite is one who condemns an act in one case and applauds the same act in another case when it suits him or her.
if this story is true, Jonathan is not only clueless and incompetent as a manager of people,he is also a bloody hypocrite.

alexchiny: Which Ngige? The dwarf that needed a run off to beat Akunyili in his so called stronghold? You are a joke. FYI, Ngige's popularity has dwindled greatly over the years due to his affiliation to the South West. Hit the streets and do some opinion sampling dude.

point of correction. the dwarf that needed a run off to beat a sitting governor in his state. Ngige did not really contest against the beautiful and competent amazon dora akinyuli, he contested against Obi / Umeh in their state and stronghold and won.

[quote author=Yeske!]Even if Ngige decamps to APGA, he won't even win the primaries and we all know the reason. C C Soludo is our man.[/quote]But ngige has being a member of the defunct ACN, now PDP for the past eight years, and has not changed political party. 90% of politicians that decamps or leave PDP returns to the party within a year of doing so,but ngigge stuck with an opposition party for the past eight years or so.
secondly, Ngige knows that his association with ACN / Yorubas is a serious political handicap but he has never distanced himself or sought another political platform.
So leave out ngigge when you are discussing opportunistic political harlots like Jonathan , obi and desperado soludo.

touch4mony: jst the same way the opposition is supporting Amaechi and tinubu the national leader of ACN came to rivers state and did not tot it wise to see the ACN state chairman and went to govt house to hand over ACN Structure rivers state chapter to a PDP governor or is how do u classify whatz hpn in imo state where a governor was elected in apga nxt thing his in APC saying all sort of rubbish about a party that gave him a plat form after been menber of more than 6 political partys and nofin to show for it.the polities now is if u cant win here u win their and come over leta and u cant use one person for that.if Andy or soludo win they are all PDP products.i tot u ppl say we hv APGA PDP now and we also have APGA APC so why cry.

Are you finally admitting there is APGA/APC and APGA /PDP?

Onlytruth: Soludo remains the best in Anambra. If Jonathan supports the best, the people will be appreciative of that, and return the favor in 2015.

but the so called best was in PDP before moving to APGA. You mean for jonathan to support a good candidate in a party he is leader of, that candidate must decamp to another party?
i don't get it!

Onlytruth: It is only smart that GEJ supports APGA and supports Soludo to win Anambra.
It is in HIS interest to do so.

Any one who allows his ersonal sellfish interest to supercede group interest is not fit to be called a leader. but personally I am not surprised. to me OBI is essentially a PDP member and his faction of APGA is nothing but a poorly disguised faction of PDP.