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erico2k2:
My friend 6 years after but I am telling you this your constant nagging is disrupting the thread and disturbing the peace, instruct your damn lawyers to go and deal with the man, he has a fixed abode,Like I said b4, I will BAn ur user name if I was Admin cos this is how things like this end up distracting the real reason this thread was posted, Admin plz lock thread

Don't you think being silent when not contributing to what's on ground is better sir?

Or what's the title of this thread again?

erico2k2:
Bro Im not going t o be harsh on you cos you are losing money here, I feel this, However I joined Nairaland 2007 and you did 2009, Im sure you are old enough on this platform to understand how this works. I don't want to list names and open bad wounds, but if you search on here long enough you will see this same pattern play out with n3xt/brabus and other names he has.you will get to know this same guy has up to 5 user names on nairaland.No one is saying do not give people work but why this same guy with multiple issues and do you think its fair people of this forum and reminded of same thing year in year out? do you think so? be honest?

This is 6 years after.

Not year in year out.

Come back when you are comfortable with the thread sir.

erico2k2:
There is a saying that if you want to dine with the devil you need a long spoon, How many times have we been here with n3xt
People like him are who I call necessary evil, U got to be full proof to deal with him. If you search on him here you will see countless cases against him and his response are all same. He has all his facts and evidence ready for any sort of litigation as u can see from all his response. If after all the talk year in year out U still go and deal with him and you do not have a long spoon U come here to complain? don't you think we here from day one have the right to be angry and think you are taking us back to the pages amongst the 200s?Look at how many pages we have spent on this issue dont you see how this is denying others who want to learn the privileges and more so for other contractors and builders on here who want to showcase their own service and products, this cast a dark shadow on them of which the reality on ground is not truee.Do you have any idea of how many persons on here and off line have lost money to this same guy?All I got to say is simple, arrest the guy or take him to court if he is found wanting, all this back and fort on NL wont work cos all we can only do is ask one person to pay the other.

Bringing it here (which he started) is actually going to help others that must have been contacting him offline to see that he hasn't changed.

How would you have known what's happening now after 6 years if not brought here?

At least, Google gets updated with his details and everything about Nexthomes, NextBuild+Design.

If you understand the Internet, you'd know it punishes faster and better than the Nigerian system.

sonnie10:
Oga joke for 1 min to relieve stress. Na person way dey healthy dey live for house.
He might have perceived the situation as no longer conducive to appear for such meeting.

Trying inviting him to any neutral safe place like the court or station. He won’t have a choice.

I don't need inviting him. Person wey no come for handover wan come when he don hold my money for months?

He's got my bank account details, he should do the needful.

Dubemcapital1:
Honestly, I am good with this submission but on the other side, if he was committed up to 97% to secure materials in advance and he didn't, I think it's quite suspicious and questionable

I have asked him countless times to post pictures of the materials he left on site and even the status of the building then.

I have done my obligations here.

I spent way more than 2.45m completing his job and correcting errors but the QS didn't include them all in the valuation just because some weren't captured in the original bill.

sonnie10:
You guys would hardly get anywhere with the back and forth.
The reason is these. In a system where the regulatory system is not functional, people which define their own standards (clients and contractors included).
It always play out two ways. When a building project is given out on contract providing material, you get just the standard. When the client insists on providing materials, they contractors would request for the highest possible materials needed, almost close to waste.
They might be few exceptions, but I personally have never seen any that is different.

At this point, all I see here is a disputed difference of about #1M.

Is it possible that you guys come to a compromise on that difference and leave the details out.
The details is causing more problem than solution.


On a side note, I like the house. Both the financier and the builder tried well well. I am even beginning to think is all this is to attract more ‘clients’
Sense no go kil mi!

Please this is not the time to joke.

I once wasted 1 weeks wage paid to the PM because he was on site and contractor and his people didn't show up.

n3xt:
Is that all? When I saw 97.5% advance payment, I was expecting to see we bought 30 tons truck of granite, trailer load of cement etc. .

Yes, it cost me ₦2.45m which you are to refund 1st week of January.

For being the person I have been to you on this project, refund ₦2m!

If you need receipts, I'd gladly send them to you including payment confirmations.

n3xt:
We paid for this and had it delivered on site as at May 2021. Check the record.
I’m happy to refund the cost.

You were not contracted to deliver the glass to site but to install.

You have the current figure to pay on the valuation.

n3xt:
I have nothing to say here. I offered to do it at no cost to you but you bluntly refused.

You got sacked for performance issue, yet you think we'd let you back on site to "repair"?

n3xt:
Smiles.

We used marine boards sir. I paid for those things from my pocket and I know what we did.

That's his message, so tell the house how you used less than 43k to buy cement, iron, do the woodwork, iron work, and casting of the 6 fins + slab

Note: from the 60k you sent, 14k was for old job done which was broken down for being inferior, 3k paid to remove them

n3xt:
While awaiting the screenshot, may I ask if he paid for the materials used for the fins up till 25th Sept?

If no, who paid for the materials used for the fins in the picture. It’s definitely not you and not him but me.

You have posted the pictures of the fins you did which was after you broke off the bad ones you did. You were doing woodwork ( for just 3 fins) because you wanted to reuse the woods to do others and this was only for the down sides before you were sent off.

From the 60k you sent him, we can see how much went to labor and what the labor did.

Are you saying your 60k completed the fins as against what he said here?

So how did you pay for the completion of the fins or did he lie against you?

Check the date of the chat.

n3xt:
This was also laughable too! The QS claimed 8 bags was used for the flooring.
You can do 100 bags but you didn’t pay me that much sha.
.

Challenge this from the breakdown posted by him.

Please post your pictures while we wait.

I will pick your rebuttal one after the other and post evidence.

n3xt:
More than enough blocks were on site that I produced in May. The only block I bought from outside are 6 inches block because the quantity required is not worth the stress.

Put a figure to the blocks you left on site.

The blocks we bought has been captured by the breakdown from the QS. Prove otherwise.

sonnie10:
These additions, are they part of the structural drawing/ design or just precautionary measures?

One was the master bedroom toilet
Then that of the kitchen.

Check the pictures, they are.

n3xt:
The slab was casted in May. Check the thread.

You don't know the slab besides the fins again? Please post your picture showing the slab besides the fins being casted by May

I'm not talking about the M. Bedroom varanda slab.

I will screenshot the chat from the PM concerning your claim of sending him money to complete the L shaped fins (6 + 1 L shaped slab)

The only thing he's ready to accept is if the QS says he's not owing ₦1.

Edit: Images removed after serving their purpose.

Everyone should take screenshots of the pictures on the other thread before he goes there to edit the pictures to the new ones I just posted.

If he can lie to me on site without knowing I was present, he can do anything.


Anytime I burst his lies, he goes gutter and start saying unpleasant words. I have them on whatsapp.

n3xt:
I don’t take your QS a serious anymore since he can’t provide evidence of where the fictitious 126 pcs of 150mm blocks he claimed you bought were used on the security house.

I honestly don’t bother reading whatever he share anymore because it’s worthless to me after 4the review.

Once again, I’ll attach your security house here. Please kindly show me where 126 pcs of 150mm blocks were used.

I know we didn’t use so much 150mm blocks in the main house. Aiye o!

He has posted the breakdown which you have copies of, talk to the house using that.

N3xt must post the pictures of the materials he left on site for all to see.

N3xt must post the pictures of the building he left on site too.

All sides for us to see the difference.

If I post them, he'd say I have edited them.

The coppings were casted, (iron, cement and labor paid) both for main house and security house

The roofing of both buildings were done and also felted

The big slab besides the fins was casted (L shaped)
The rest of the fins were casted (L shaped)
Block work was done from lintel to roof for security house

I made provision for the pillars for the security house since he claimed wasn't part of the 1.4m

We did the German floor for the security house

If you check the top floor of the main house, you'd see some block work we completed that won't be found on any of his pictures prior to 25th of September.

We repaired the trusses that was badly installed.

We bought and installed the atrium glass roof.

Everyone can see who is getting agitated already having been shown the difference.

n3xt:
The construction thread is there na to see pictures of what has been done as at May.

Show me what you did different sir. It’s pretty simple!

I’ll be right back with he last picture before termination of the contract. Let’s see what you did different.

We are waiting for you to post yours haven done mine.

The QS posted that of the security house on your behalf yesterday. Pls post it here again. No need referring anyone elsewhere.

sonnie10:
Please sir let’s not present this matter as if they are abstract, non physical objects.
If you could, please give the house a brief detail of what was left undone. Don’t add figures to it.
We would like to have an idea of scope of work that was incomplete before termination.

Check what the QS posted.

Check the pictures I posted above

Let him post the pictures of where he stopped before getting sacked.

There are things we did internally too. (casted 2 beams because the ones he casted were death traps).

We still have one more beam to cast on the kitchen exit door that he didn't do + the block work on top of it.

n3xt:
Lie!!

Anyone who know me knows I do milestone based payment. The only reason we had to accept advance payment was because of the I crease in cost of reinforcement the very first day the project was to commence.
You were duly informed and I explained the implication of not stocking up to you.
Your QS confirmed the rise in cost of reinforcement and approved the upfront payment for reinforcement.

I attach screenshot below for reference.



Can you at least mention the materials that were not readily on site? Let me see if you have anything to share sir.

Just feel free to share the extra things you bought that I’ve not provided. Please note we walked this route during the review and I asked you and the QS to provide evidence that you paid for certain things.
I even atrached pictures to show you when I provided those things.

For someone who doesn’t visit site but only rely on what he was told, I don’t expect anything less.

Remember I attached the correspondence I had with your supervisor to show that I gave him money for all he needed for the job.

Pls kindly share those things you bought sir.




I’m only providing refund for the roofing sheet that has not been installed, the coping yet to be poured and other accessories that comes with roof installation. Nothing more.

That you spent money on trusses is not my worry because the trusses has been delivered as at April 2021.
I’m also 100% confident you’re not asking me to provide a refund for blockwork.

Need I remind you sir that I’m also providing a refund for the atrium glass that got broken on site due to the fact that we delivered it earlier than when it’ll be ready for installation.
I’m sure insensitivity led you to ask for a refund for that which I’m happy to give back.



Please kindly provide evidence sir.



Feel free sir to list out all the materials that has not been bought. I’ll be happy to debunk the LIRS in the open like I always do.

I remembered your QS was asking for scaffold and he sent me a funny picture to show me you bought bamboo. Very laughable though!



If you are made to buy materials because someone recommended it, it’s not my fault. You could at least have double check with me before going ahead to buy buy buy.



The picture of the building 7 months ago is still on the thread, please kindly feel free to share what has been done different on the building and let’s see how much you’ve been ripped sir.
Why are you afraid to share sir?

As at October 2021, the blocks that I produced in May 2021 for the project are still on the site.
What else did we not buy bayi o?

Chekitaut supplied all the granite for the project as at April.

Even cement were kept in the store for several months without use.

I rest.

This is very simple.

Tell the house what you left on site as at on the 25th of September that was to be used to complete the job.

Tell the house when you got the first and last Batches of payment.

Tell the house why you have refunds to make if you actually bought the materials and left them on site as at May you got paid 97.5%

Lets see who's lying here.

And please show with proof what you left on site as at 25th of September.

Pictures as at November 2021, less than a month after he was disengaged.

Lets compare his own pictures before 25th.

Everyone should observe the difference.

Edit : Images removed after serving their purpose.

sonnie10:
What other materials did he need for building carcass? What else did you want to see on ground? Have you considered that the building was at roofing stage in about two months?
Do the maths. A contract of about #15M. Let’s even agree that the balance left is #2M. Therefore #13M was actually used. Isn’t that about 90% completion before termination?
The issue here is about what is left.

Don't assume wrongly here.

It wasn't also about 2 months but from May to September.

It was not just roofing that was left undone, read further.

The QS will post how he arrived at his value haven been part of the project from the start and haven also visited site when the contract was terminated to take pictures and see the current state of work.

I also have invoices of all jobs done expected of N3xt which can be verified physically and otherwise.

vanbonattel:
It's not his packaging ra ra, the guy must have done you guys some jazz

Buried a dog at night and the rest is history.

Stuffs like that don't work with me.

And no, he didn't jazz whatever.

vanbonattel:
Oga, always vet ppl before giving them your money. N3xt was defrauding people since 2007. I heard he had cleaned out 14 victims before and shamelessly returned for more.

Everyone mentioned here got recommended by reputable people here except him, unfortunately his "packaging" got him picked by the QS in his own word.

While we have the issues here, I still haven't stopped the process I put in place. So we will wait to see him refund the correct amount. He has 1st week of January to do that.

He wasn't sacked today, he was sacked 3 months ago, so if he wanted this sorted since then, he would have provided his own "fair" valuation we requested for then.

Waiting for @Qsfemi to post the breakdown of his valuation here.

vanbonattel:
Omo, but you get mind o,
Paying 97% advance to a well celebrated crook on here is to say the least, magnanimous

It was in stages but all in advance for one purpose; to buy and store materials in bulk.

He kept coming to me for advance payment citing rumors of rise in cost of materials.

We were working with a payment schedule drafted by him at first before the gimmicks.

I actually did the same thing with @Twinskenny and I have never had any reason to regret.

Same was done to the plumber @Olaleye, AC vendor (abeit partly) and both didn't fail me.

Still did something similar with @Michlin.

Let's even put it this way

I paid 97.5% in advance for a reason

To buy all the needed materials for storage on site to avoid rise in cost.

Questions everyone should ask him is

If he truly bought materials needed and kept on site, why then am I here asking for my refund?

The reason he asked for payment in advance at every stage has been defeated and can be tagged as deceit.

He deceived me into releasing money in advance without buying all materials as expected.

Now I ended up using my own money to buy materials at the current rate to complete the jobs he abandoned for months.

Yet telling the house he's only going to pay at the rate at which the funds were released to him 7 to 9 months ago.

Who does that?

twinskenny:
@somehow @next

Is it possible to bring in an independent QS?

Anything that gets me what he made me spend to complete his job.

I have given him my official report based on what a qualified QS (same one that picked him) submitted, so the onus lie on him to do likewise.

This would have been solved earlier on if he submitted his handover note/valuation when he was asked.

If he had sent his own QS then, both QS would have solved the whole thing as professionals but he never did because he was planning not to pay me as at when due going by how he kept coming up with objections without providing his for months.

There are alot of things I had to redo which weren't even captured by the valuation and you can bear witness to this having been to site.

topsy23:
@Somehow and N3xt both of you should find a level ground to resolve this matter once and for all. Somehow have invited his own QS to value the workdone on site and he has submitted his report based on what he met and workdone so far. I believe the QS was fully involved during the tendering stage and have the full knowledge of the scope awarded to N3xt.

@N3xt you promised to give us your own QS report based on the value of workdone too. I believe that the two QS used the same contract boq for this exercise. Pls let's have the two valuations and compare apple for apple, then we will get to the root of this
matter. Pls N3xt let's have your QS valuation.

This I have asked for since September 25th but here we are still running in circles because he failed to show up to handover and take stock nor sent his representative to do this on his behalf.

It points to one thing, he already planned everything from the start thinking by withholding my money with him, the project becomes stuck and then he can feel good.

Unfortunately for him, this has further added to his negative reputation which was one of the things I hoped my project would have helped clean a bit.

Everyone knows my stand now and what my competent QS came up with. So we can now see who has been dragging just as he dragged the project by 4 months.

n3xt:
As I’ve shared with you and the QS sir, the building is yours and you’re free to spend whatever sum you like to get the job done. It’s not an issue for me.

I remembered paying the a QS 200k to prepare me a BOQ that was eventually thrown out for a bid that I ended up securing with my non-professional Bill of Quantities. I own the money and chose what to do with it.
What I won’t do is to pass the cost of the BOQ to my client because he didn’t ask me to spend such money.

That’s why I won’t be in such a hurry to fire a contractor in an ongoing project.
If eventually that route will be followed, I’ll ensure we reconcile all accounts before doing anything on the project to prevent conflicts and disagreements.

Did you read what you wrote?

Can you read the last part of the contract you prepared?

Let me post it here so that you can interpret it to the house

So May to September is in a hurry?
Everyone can see what is coming out from his mouth.

Let him post the picture of the building as at May and then the pictures as at September, let the house see what he actually did for 4 months when no issues for that long delay came up.

You were asked to come to site for handover and stock taking, you refused, nor sent anyone, yet you have the audacity to type this?

You have my figures already and have my account number with the time I gave you for a refund (even though its supposed to be instant since you're with my money).

Till then, I will stop replying you here.

multikolour:
Let me set this straight, @somehow is in this mess because he refused to listen, learn from other people mistake and he trying to show he is smart and wise.

Earlier this year @Mmito brought the issue of next and it took almost 25 pages, I was among those asking her to let it slide that who had enough and we want to talk about other issues, somehow saw them and he did not learn.

We have passed the "you see" stage sir. At least, the current development will only attest to the fact that things haven't changed with him 6 years after.