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scopusng:
The name resemble naija name?

Does Good luck Jonathan resemble Nigerian name?
What about Edwin Clark or Heineken?

superCleanworks:
skit or real?

Pure skit.

KolaShangOne:
4000 naira for Lafarge this morning.

Thank you sir.
what about Dangote and Bua?

Please house, what is the current price of cement?

Lagos to the precise.

twinskenny:
bro haba you can do better than this sir... calling at 11pm? and i thought something has been agreed on with oga roteck as the mediator>/

dont let us start the year with back and forth! you are in lagos, your client is in lagos, why dont u schedule a meeting with him once and for all and sort this?

be a man and resolve this amicably

At this stage, meeting in person is of no use as long as he's yet to refund me.

He should just pay me. He's got my account details.

If there's any other need to see me in person, that should be after we are done with the refund.

There is no "discussion" that hasn't been done already. where we are is a refund.
The era of discussing with Mr. Fortune, QS etc has elapsed. We had that for months. (You obviously do the talking here and not directly with me on whatsapp)

You already know how much I have requested from what the QS valued (after considering most of what you came up with).

And you also know when I want this refund (I already paid you the money, so it's not a case of you trying to gather it) because you're expected to have the money in your account since you haven't used it for the intended purpose.

If you wanted to truly get in touch with me, you would have done so earlier than 11 pm you called me if it was important to you. If you can call by 11 pm on a 31st night, calling on the 1st or 2nd shouldn't be an issue.

At the stage we are, I would want to have something to reference, hence the voice note or WhatsApp chat as requested by me.

Lastly, what I want to be hearing or reading from you now is when I should be expecting an alert in the next 4 days. (2M from the 2.45m)

Once an alert is gotten, this chapter gets closed.

If I am not a reasonable person, we wouldn't be talking about my refund 7 months after.

n3xt:
Conflicts are inevitable part of our daily living. They do not need to ruin or redefine our relationship with people. They just need to be addressed and resolved rather than allowing our frustrations to build up because issues are not maturely addressed.

I’m not here to discuss who was right or wrong. Who ought to call or not. We just need to move forward.



I understand this hence the reason I didn’t bother to ring you the 3rd time. I could have called earlier but I was on my way traveling that night.

I could have done 1st and 2nd Jan but I know those are days we would be busy with our families and loved ones.



If you ask me as a neutral person, what’s the best way to deal with the issues at hand? I’d say “Have a conversation (one-on-one) with the other person involved.”

Unfortunately my Whatsapp messenger app has been acting funny lately and your request to me was to do a voice note which shows to me you might be busy or not ready for an open discussion.



Avoiding open discussion is not only dysfunctional. It is counterproductive.

When we refuse to communicate, simple misunderstandings often degenerate into long-term and systemic challenges like we are right now....

...speak with the QS
...speak with Mr Fortune
...explain to nairaland


To make things clear, I don’t do “we” against “them” and I don’t assume other people’s position. When issues arise, I deal with them.

3rd of January 2022.

Update:

Got a text from him about calling in the evening.

Saw 2 missed calls around 11 pm or thereabout on the 31st (Was not available to pick calls at that time of the night).

Replied later that the call be made later the next day (1st of Jan) which hasn't been received.

Also sent a WhatsApp message on the 1st of January, but got no response just as the previous ones sent (3rd, 8th, and 26th Dec).

As of today, nothing has changed and no concrete communication whatsoever on the refund.

Many are called, few are chosen.

omozu1:
It is possible
You pay 20 percent of the whole money
And pay rest monthly for like ten years

Not up to 10 years.
It's mostly between 1 and 3 years except you're buying from the Govt.

When you hear "Buy"

It doesn't always mean they paid 100% for it.

In RE, they are allowed to pay between 10 to 30 %, then spread the rest amount to be paid monthly.

Not like I even believe short clip videos can earn you such millions within a short time to buy a house outrightly.

May this year bring us all good tidings.

And may we as individuals become better people this year.

Have a blessed 364 days ahead.

Did cross over at home last year and I never experienced regression.

Doing same tonight.

Come and beat me.

Sebastine1994:
China is not helping their people grow, with all this law, china has banned a lot of things like:
Gay marriage, dressing like gay in comedy skit, mocking the president, Islam, online tutor, celebrity worship, tattoo, Bitcoin, online gaming and internet addiction, religion, abandoning your aging parents,guns. Etc

When you overprotect children they either rebel or they become soft. They cannot function outside their society.
Just look at American women, she how easy it is to lure them with promise of love, théy lost their cynicism and ability to decern evil from good.

How does tattoos make a country grow?

China is not making his people grow, yet they are about to become the world power (in few years time).

From being a 3rd world country less than 30 years ago to a force to reckon with.

They know their values and not ready to have it eroded by those with no values.

They are thinking ahead and trying to contain all the vices readily available to distract their youthful population.

spyder880:
Thank you Sir, God will help us make decisions about where to work next year. God bless you bro.

You're welcome sir.

michlins:
thank you for all you did for us at New Pace Construction.

Kindly know that your support made not just me but several families eat and have eventful 2021. We hope and pray that the new year will bring us better tidings.

Thank you once again sir

Thank him more. His recommendation got me to chat you up.

Good job correct engineer.

Can't wait to have you assemble a team that can work in Lagos.

We dey miss your honesty here.

Lemmy123:
Eweeeyyyy!

Kanayo O. Kanayo is doing well.. Person wey work suppose to chop, na why I Wan double my digital marketing and content writing hustle this coming year, God help me, amen...

Do you have threads or links to jobs you have written?

If you have a thread on NL where you display your jobs, tag me ASAP.

komekn:
That in itself should TOTALLY disqualify him for the job.

He had no history of outstanding achievement ,he had failed ebetehi he has been.

Why then did we appoint him Only the NFF politicians can answer that question.

Does anybody recall the disclosure given by Glenn Hoddle in the public domain . That he would have to give 50% of his salary to some official in the NFF. The NFF did not even contest the claims.

This new coach is very hungry and desperate and will do anything the NFF ask him to do.

Why don't we get an established coach with real pedigree who is not hungry and desperate. ❓

FIFA is part of the reasons these guys in the NFF are doing what they are doing.

If Fifa can be openly corrupt, what do you expect from CAF, not to talk of NFF?

PurpleHouse:
I Pointed this out before. I have my fears. Big fears. But least us wait and see.

It's a shame we keep repeating the same errors.

He has only managed a job for 2 years. The rest has been 1 year or less.

MMotimo:
I am only asking because I found his name on this list when a non-related situation developed with his new moniker and I referred to the list above. Please advise and thank you.

Not my new moniker (as you can see from the registration date), I am not the one using freshcvvs but the name.

So kindly reword your comment.

Ezewuzie01:
It is not about the structure but the standard of pitch. That's how FIFA rates stadiums and they banned Teslim balogum stadium in surulere because it's pitch is not up to half the standard of this Awka city stadium.

It was banned for being an artificial grass, not for infrastructure.

rotecch77:
Good morning, compliment of the season to you all.

Let me talk a bit about the ongoing saga btw brabus and somehow.

@brabus your last post here I remember you told me then to forget money for the said client and I don’t talk much I just count it free work and I leave the money for him. .. I moved.

You see there so many disputes that I have settled off line here more than 10 both in prosperity section and tech section which involves thousand and millions.
There is one on property section here which involve A 30 tonnes capacity trailer and thank God the owner collected the lorry back within 2weeks without any police case it’s btw me as mediator and two of them
I don’t need to mention names but some people knows
Although is part of me bcs I was once a task force member in coker/ Orile giant building material mkt, we do settle dispute always.

So back to this issue, you remember I called you some weeks back to discuss this issue in other to find a way to settle it with your esteemed client but we couldn’t go further again due to tight scheduled.

It’s just a pity that for almost 10pages till now NO sign that this is coming to an end WHY people are just talking back and forth.
And you also you didn’t handle it the way I believed it should be done as a professional WHY.
Don’t forget there is no perfect person in this world we only have Good people.
If you haven’t encounter issue like disputes ( not scam or fraud) in your line of business you are not complete yet but it’s depends on how you handle the situation.
@ brabus I repeated again you didn’t handle this very well to my expectation.
But I need to speak with you and the client off line and let’s see how it’s goes.
———
In this life make sure you have good intentions to all things then …..do your best and leave the rest…..Ebenezer Obe.

What people should be asking him now should be about paying me within the stipulated time.

At least I have given him concession in the amount to the refunded and also time. September 25th 2021 to 1st week of January 2022.

n3xt:
Thanks!

I’m always ready to talk any day, any time.

You know my position here on disputes. I always act as an impartial person called a "mediator" that helps parties in dispute try to reach a mutually acceptable resolution.

mountmoriah vs cribking1
https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/1995#99020561

So I know what works and what won’t work and I make earliest recommendations.

Childish rants and online banters won’t fix anything but a mutually agreed resolution by the parties in dispute.

Unfortunately, one cannot be an umpire in his own game.

Would I have acted different if it was someone else? Definitely!

rotecch77 vs Rajput4real
chekitaut vs Thenext
chekitaut vs Segzy14

Cases were managed offline.

The last call you put across how many weeks ago, what did you promise to do?

Did you do what you promised?

If you did, why are we here?

People can see he's not really ready for any resolution but to keep dragging and wasting my time further more after 9 months.

My refund is 2m that I want from the 2.45m, talk on that here on this forum.

I don't need to meet with you again in person because it's of no use.

Refunding doesn't need any physical meeting.

Agree here to how soon you are refunding me before the end of the 1st week of January 2022.

FEGEITOK:
As much as I believe in innocence until the evidence proves otherwise.

This has been a PR fiasco for the Vendor. This is why some companies insist on an arbitration clause because of the privacy involved in resolving disputes unlike litigation.

However I know that even big names like Microsoft, Apple, Uber, etc have been involved in PR fiascos and are in still in business, so this is certainly not the end of the road for the Vendor.

One other thing that has come up. Did the contract contain clauses that have to do with increases in prices of materials as well as remedies in the event of a breach. If not then it is hard to see how party A will accept party B's position on the matter. The parties were never in agreement on that matter and finding that middle ground after termination is going to be very difficult to achieve. It is like an unexpected divorce, it brings out of the worst even from the best of people.

The QS also failed to understand that before you terminate a contract you tie all loose ends. People become more difficult after a contract goes south. They tend to become legalistic and will hang unto every right real or perceived, things that they might have let go, they will no longer let go. I hope he learns from this and improves his termination processes next time.

The only way out now is for the courts to prove Vendor didn't err, and thereby clear his name on the record.

The other way out, is to meet the Client half way, which should have ideally have been done long before this dispute hit the internet.

I still believe it is not too late to meet the Client half way, this will go along way to clear his name albeit late.

Even if that means getting a third party QS with zero affiliation to the Client to resolve the disputed figures.

Reputation is gold. These things have a way of coming back to haunt someone in the future.

If my name was being so maligned this way, I would definitely sue anyone and everyone involved to clear my name.

The thing about contracts, all parties are equal, all rights are equal, if A wants to change a material term, B has to accept, if B doesn't accept the earlier position remains.

Hence I can see why Client is holding positions the Vendor refuses to accept and vice versa

Whenever there is such a deadlock, the proper thing is to involve an arbitrator or a mediator or a judge and agree to be bound by his or her ruling.


I look forward to a resolution of this matter.

Did you see or read part of the contract I uploaded before typing this?

erico2k2:
I hear you, Bro these guys have loads of user name, U ban one another one surfaces and the Old moniker comes back after serving BAN.Dont forget no one pays the Admin on here they too get life and sometimes they get frustrated. the only person who can make real impact is the Client by getting a conviction done.

Thanks sir.

MMotimo:
Ok, I will do that


***Modified******
Bijouxcutey has not been active since 2019 but I sent a post to the other lady.

I have the number of LadyF if you want but should be on her ID. She's also a merchant like myself and has a website.

https://ladyfexchange.com/

All the same, it's actually off topic and no need stressing further. If you got something different from "resolved", open a thread and tag me.

erico2k2:
I hope you now see where I was coming from, just wait others will soon pop up, hence my advice to just deal with this guy once n for all,we always get to this point with issues concerning n3xt, people accusing others of collecting money from him. Or even labelling long established members as him!it wont be the last, give it few months, there will be someone els soon, U watch!

If you read what I said, you'd see that I only came here to debunk the misinformation he was sharing.

Leaving him to post without challenging him would have done me and other potential people a disservice.

He should have been the person you should be shutting up, not the victim.

All the same, just let it slide.

Same to Vanbonattel. Abeg.

@erico2k2
@Vanbonattel

No need for this.

Please this is not worth dragging.

You have no need to be on eachother's necks

What you are doing is actually against the main reason for the thread since it is not related to the thread.

Una no need this fight.

Thanks

MMotimo:
I have reached out to the mod in that section to shed more light on this. That list is current so if your name should not be there, it stands to reason that you should have asked for it to be removed. I will update here when I hear back.

You can contact the usernames you mentioned instead since they are the direct victims or what do you think?

If they tell you it wasn't resolved, tag me in the thread you're to open.

erico2k2:
The title anything to do with buildings, However FYI as you don't know, this thread was created cos me and mr Egunmogaji was having a debate while he was in US about tools and machines for the building trade then hajji felt we was distracting people from the original property thread so he created this one, go to page one you will know what I am talking about. Now if you feel aggrieved why don't you create a thread for this? Instead of populating this thread as against people who wants to learn and have questions to ask the pros on here? Do you think this is fair on them lot? Honestly do you think so, I share and understand where you are coming from but we must think of others too.6 years is such a long time for you not to have dealt with this issue, Ask yourself this ,how many of the Old hands here did you see put themselves into this issue right about now? somewhere in the past someone even accused few Oldies on here of siding with n3xt and sharing monies with him, So Bro not being rude, create a new thread name it as to the effect of what you seek against n3st, it will be there as well as deterrent. The you can instreuct your lawyers to deal with the issue and NL Docs plus obtained ones on your part will serve as evidence.

Don't worry about what I'm posting as long as they are related to the title of the thread.

I (obviously older than you on this forum) know the rules more than you. (old timer and an insider).

What I am posting here is just to refute all that he has posted, else it's seen as if he's right. I know how the Internet work sir.

Not to worry, I'm doing "something" offline too but just following the route of reconciliation as advised by professionals before the next stage.

He wasn't chatting me offline but came here to post, so I followed him here.

Thank you.