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IvarDboneless:
Lastma is becoming a menace in lagos state I have swore with my grandfathers death that instead make lastma catch me make I kill one...wetin my eye don see for there hand mouth no fit talk

Hope you know what happens to killers?

Is it worth the "vow"?

What a sad incident.

For those always cursing the country they live in, what exactly do you expect your curses to do to the Country? Make it better?

Don't expect the opposite of what you say to this country with your mouth.

abdulwastecx:
The part where you said that the lintel he cast collapsed. I'm just surprised that any builder or engineer can do such

I didn't say any lintel collapsed sir, I only said he did 2 bad lintels we had to remove. They were not resting on the blocks on at least one side.

It was the owner of the Estate that brought it to my notice, I didn't see them during my visits.

Horlardorjah:
I think he meant the fins

Yes, the fins were initially built without rebar by him which made one to fall. Everything was later removed to be redone.

Just imagine.

abdulwastecx:
Sorry for my insensitivity but how do one cast a lintel without rebar?

Sorry but which part of my comment are you quoting sir?

Born2conquer:
But the country will grant me PR or citizenship ?

For citizenship by investment, check out these countries.

https://immigrantinvest.com/en/blog/top-countries-get-passport-for-investment/

JackDaAlienz:
Other Countries are going to Space and building roads is you call achievement??

Father Lord, In my next life.. take me faaaarrr awayyy from Africa. I no do again.

So he should leave basic needs like roads alone to go into space?

Una no dey reason?

rotecch77:
Then you need this quote
“Face the simple fact before it comes involved. Solve the small problem before it becomes big.” –

Braco.

Maybe the person is in the wrong trade

NotBeenPaid:

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And the borrower can't reciprocate the ban because they're so indebted to the lender.

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UK no get money to borrow anyone.

We dey talk borrowers, you dey mention stingy UK.

rotecch77:
New week quote”

When a customer complains, he is doing you a special favor; he is giving you another chance to serve him to his satisfaction. You will appreciate the importance of this opportunity when you consider that the customer’s alternative option was to desert you for a competitor.”

And when customers complain?

mufutau55:
Do not let anyone make a fool of you and run away with your money o. Which ever way you can, do it.
Many ppl does not know how hard it is to make money abroad, all they hear is Dollars/Pounds/Euros.

Hajji M.

Thanks sir.

mufutau55:
I totally agreed with you o. N1m is not a small money talk less of N20m and you are still cocky and blowing turanchi to me. When I am ready, one thousand Bible or Quran no go help you. I valued my kobo-kobo made from my sweat not yahoo way.

Hajji M.

And having made my money down to the #1 the legal way, I won't let a kobo get away.

I am just trying to remain civil for now and go the legal-official route till further notice.

I know some of the elders here indirectly gave him thumbs down when I enquired but I know he won't go free from this without a severe scar if he doesn't refund me.

I told him on site that I'm a young man and young people don't forget or let things go easily. I can be a dove if I want to and I can be a beast if need be.

My work hasn't stopped because of the refund but I worked for that money and will get it whichever way possible.

I had to redo 2 lintels that he did anyhow.

The fins he previously casted fell, there and then did we discover there was no rebar used. Just sand, cement and granites.

He was made to redo those ones.

Wanted to build my security house without pillars, had to use unbudgeted money to make sure my PM put pillars there.

He also didn't do German floor for the SH, rather went ahead to erect walls without pillars/German floor.

There are other things not share yet which we have managed /currently managing and correcting. ( low budget electrical and plumbing pipes, low grade steel trusses).

The beginning was smooth and sweet until 97.5% of the funds got to him.

QSFemi:
At this point, I've a duty to set some records straight and establish the facts of the Trillion Park Building project belonging to my client, known here as Somehow.

There's an undeniable fact that there's already an ongoing dispute between the project owner and the contractor who happens to be a known member of this noble thread - @N3xt.

As a Professional Quantity Surveyor, I owe a duty of care to my client, the project and the contractor and I've sworn an oath to discharge my quantity surveying duties to the best of my knowledge and competence without fear or favour. That has always been my mantra and I've lived up to this expectations as best as I could. This is evident considering the myriads of clients that have patronised my services here on this thread, many of whom, I did not even know in person.
Most of the clients I have worked for here can attest to my competence, sincerity and most importantly integrity.

For the record, I recommended Next Home and Builders, the company name of N3xt for the award of the contract anonymously after I have reviewed three quotations at my disposal. I made the recommendation without knowing any of the contractors because it was the client that sourced for them. It was after the contract has been awarded to Messrs Next Home and Builders that I get to know the personality behind the name. That means that there wasn't any bias from my end towards the award. For the record again, the tender sum of the contractor that won the award was not the lowest among the three. For those following my professional writings here, I've emphasized times without number that projects are awarded to the least responsive bid. The project was awarded to the contractor at his own tender price.

The scope of work for the contract entails the construction of the carcass of the building including the roofing. The contract was meant to run for just two months commencing from March to April.

In September 24th, I recommended the termination of Next Homes and Builders contract after the project has been overrun by 5 months and there wasn't any real action being shown towards the completion of the contract by the said contractor. After the termination, the contractor was asked to prepare and submit a handover notes and present himself on site for assessment of work done and undone in order to have a financial reconciliation. The contractor failed not only in submitting a handover note but also in presenting himself on the 28th of September which was the date I eventually visited the site for the first time. It should be on record too that the contractor failed to even send a representative.

As it stands now, there's dispute on the contract as to how much is due for refund. I've presented my client's refund amount due to the contractor which has been contested on several occasions with some reviews even done to accommodate some of his logical submissions.

Professionally, in dispute resolution, the following four methods can be applied, viz.,

1). Mediation
2) Conciliation
3) Arbitration
4) Litigation

From all indications, the contractor wants the client to go to any length that he cares even to the point of litigation because there's no iota of commitment on his part towards resolving the issue.

I have advised prior to now that an independent registered Quantity Surveyor be engaged to establish the amount due for refund but no serious action has been taken to effect that.

@N3xt, I put it to you here that you do not want to go the way of Arbitration, which take a considerably lesser time, to adjudge the matter at hand. In your own interest, I will advise you here to seek alternative means of dispute resolution to have an amicable solution.

Cheers.

QsFemi.

To last for 3 months.

What on earth are you blabbing about?
Posting what was discussed before I told you to send yours in?

Have you not gotten the 3rd review already? did it change anything?

I will stop here. I am not on this thread to waste my effort exchanging words that you're good at.

5 days will tell.

n3xt:
Oh... I guess the QS didn’t inform you that I found some other holes in the last valuation and he agreed to do another review before you came in and said the approach is no longer working since I’m debunking fictitious claims.

Please kindly reconfirm this from the QS sir.

The holes I found were undisputed errors in the biased valuation report hence the reason for long and endless reviews.
Otherwise, there won’t be need for reviews if the first valuation was fair and credible.

Nobody need my presence to do what’s fair and just.

n3xt:
How much refund are we looking at sir? And what constitute that figure maybe you can share so that people can understand why my head is tuning on its own.

Is it the figure in review 1 or review 2 or review 3 or my own figure?

I didn't give you any figure, so stop playing around.

What is the meaning of review 1 or 2 or 3? why do we need review 3 if you already accepted review 1 or 2?
So why ask which refund when you have the last official review?

You were given room to come evaluate the job you did and come up with your own personal valuation the same day of termination. You failed to show up nor sent anyone.

The QS @ QSfemi who happens to have picked your own quotation when 3 bids were tendered for the project came and did his valuation.

I don't want to list the manner in which you kept insulting him while the valuation was ongoing. none of his valuations got accepted by you, you kept picking holes but never came up with yours for 1 month plus (Is this what someone who truly wanted this sorted reasonably does?)

The last valuation remains the official valuation upon which I want my refund. the laughable "valuation" you sent in after I sent the ball back into your court can't even fly before you and I know you sent such just to buy more time then.

I paid you ahead of time just for you to make sure you buy all the materials needed to complete the job, so you have no right to complain about the current prices we completed the jobs you failed to do after giving almost 5 extra months.

Enough said. You have my verdict and warnings already, whatever you do with them is left to you.

thundafire:
so the god dey worship in Brazil dey respect people privacy but the one in Nigeria behaves like hoodlums

Same can be said of Christianity and Islam in other nations vs Nigeria.

n3xt:
No.

24th of November was when you reached out to me for a "resolution", a day before the first deadline. Then I told you everything must be sorted before month end (November).

I didn't hear anything from you, I tried calling you, your number kept saying "on another call for days"

I left you short messages asking for updates.

You only left "Good morning sir" on the 29th and nothing again till 2nd of December stating you have been "incommunicado" since, then said you will "revert ".

In 9 days, you said nothing about the refund, so what are you saying here?

All I know is that my refund must come within 7 days (day 2 counting).

This is a termination that happened since September 25th.

Enough said.

MRFIXER001:
There are average house or land in Nigeria that worth more than #120m, have you ever heard of a popular location at Abuja called maitama. Duplex in that area worth hundreds of millions, some billions. I could remember a 7 bedroom duplex we built for a client there years ago was recently sold for #850m ($1.7m).

Any land worth 120m is not average.

Don't we know the meaning of average again?

So how can a house worth 850m be tagged average?

They are actually expensive.
If they are detached duplexes, we can still argue the cost a bit but for apartments?

Best price should be 50m to 65m max.

Govt and their partners won't pay up to 20m per plot in that area due to their influence and one flat is not even sitting on a plot, rather multiple flats on a plot.

Pure madness.

sucess001:
Tueh to your sense. Tueh to your shamelessness.

I have been supervising and building houses in lekki since Tinubu was Governor in 1999.

A mansion like 4 bedroom building costs 22-25 million to build up to finishing. Go ask developers. Some are even on Instagram.

Add it to 40m...what do you have? 65m...but your government wants to sell Terrace...not mansion like building o...for 90m.

And the figure I posted had factored in casting which is needed for most water prone lands in Lekki.

If you don't know details, never question a professional.

kopell:
Where was this one, the one am talking about is in Okunu estate around Osapa London Lekki. That apartments are nice finishing though.

Ikate.

https://lagosstate.gov.ng/blog/2021/10/13/gov-sanwo-olu-commissions-100-housing-units-in-ikate-lekki-on-wednesday-october-13-2021/

https://www.nairaland.com/6800798/lagos-state-comissions-100-housing

kopell:
Hahaha you make me laugh in Spanish, you forgot average rent on this houses you’re saying the are expensive paid $2,100 per month x 12 sir in dollars. I don’t know math ooo. Please tell me how many rented apartment pay $25k per year in Naija where land are sold in some estate at 60 - 100m sir.

$25,000 per year is #13, million naira

I am trying to understand your point with the above sir.

Are we talking about the cost of owning a house or rent?

kopell:
My brother, which city or State will 175m build one 3 solid 4 bedrooms duplexes. In Lagos I can tell you this for free, even the so called government houses that they claim is affordable in average neighborhood like Lekki, Oniru, that where recently sold. 3 bedrooms flat are sold for 75 - 95m. I couldn’t afford one, people already paid 70% upfront 3 years earlier before on block is lay on the site. So please tell me doses that translates to our economy reality. imagine that.

No, they're between ₦60m and ₦75m the last time I asked and these are the semi-detached wings. The apartments are a bit cheaper.

kopell:
It’s depends on location, one thing that is clear most houses in the west unban areas are build over 50 -60 more years ago. Average two family home is still affordable to buy at $300k on montage. Compare to ordinary land that’s are selling in Lagos, Abuja and others places for 120m with no light, no central sewage, no central water system.

₦120m house anywhere in Nigeria can't be ordinary sir.

A 2 family home should consist of what and what sir?

Average house in Lagos that I know is between ₦40 million and ₦80m. (They range between semi duplex to detached duplex of a minimum of 3 beds).

Bungalows are between ₦25m to ₦60m.

An average $300K House of 2 family in America is ₦156,000,000. (₦156m using ₦520/$1)

The amount above will get you above average house in Nigeria.

Annual property tax on that $300k House in America will pay your power and other things within the same time frame.

There's no way on earth an average house in Lagos or houses in Nigeria is more expensive than the US, UK and their like.

kopell:
Simple reason for that, speculation and corrupt money everywhere, people think they are making progress. Imagine how could houses is more expensive in Lagos, Abuja and others big cities in Nigeria then UK, USA, Europe, Asia. Nigeria is the only Country on earth where prices of house triple in less the 10 years mid develop areas, with no any mini full economic growth.

How much is an average house in big cities across the countries you listed above?

sonnie10:
@somehow this is what you were looking for.

Thank you
I'm already in talks with @person2person for this.

Seems my being reasonable has been taken for granted again by you.

If I don't get my refund (which I now want in full by law) within the next 7 days, I will take off the glove and respond in whatever means in my disposal. Take this as a threat and final warning.

This is to Bosun (N3xt, Brabus).

You can keep ignoring my calls and WhatsApp messages, we shall see.

@N3xt or Brabus

You're pushing me.

I have given you enough lifeline.

I will respond for the last time.

AuntRose:
The blame should be on the unfortunate soul who sent the name for confirmation.

Irony

A president

Unfortunate

All in one sentence.

What does being unfortunate mean again?

Expensive combination.

You're rich

How much is beans again?

And fufu?

sonnie10:
Your house is a contemporary design, the very opposite of what stamped concrete represents. Stamped concrete is just the replication of gothic design but in less cost effective way. Real stone stucco would be more appealing, if stone look is desired.
Tiles are more contemporary and would be more suitable for that style of building.

Another angle but in the original design, only one place is to be bricked. The rest are more of paintings.

Thanks

gbadexy:
I will send via a dispatch rider sir.

Ghen ghen

Thank you sir.