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Obiagu1:
It's because of this I didn't say much.

If I have to, I'll make it plan and simple. Ibadan is not changing now or tomorrow because the people there are poor. Not that they can't eat, school their kids etc but are poor to elect modern houses. Like I said before, money in the SW is in the hands of a privileged few and that trend is bad. Some people here find it hard to accept when we tell them the truth that SWners are poor, they'll come out fighting.
Unlike the SE, we may not have top 20, top 50 most wealthy men in Nigeria, but we do have the largest percentage of wealthy men, wealthy enough to build 3/4/5 storey buildings every now and then.

Same is happening in Lagos, areas dominated by SEners have housing similar to the SE, multi-storey buildings, whereas those dominated by SWners lag way behind.

Government can't do much either. For Ibadan to change, the general outlook of Nigeria has to change and that's where the problem is because Nigeria maybe not be on the path of growth yet. The people in Ibadan are too dependent on the government.

You make so much sense about the poverty levels. See also https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-371485.0.html

Moderators, please leave the title of this thread as is. It is meant to invoke ACN adherents to answer the question if they can.

How different is ACN from PDP, considering that the above article is not the first, second or third time this is hapenning? Even Tinubu's wife was an imposition.

Council poll: Protest rocks Lagos over ‘imposition of candidates’
On September 27, 2011 · In News

By OLASUNKANMI AKONI & IFEANYI OKOLIE
IKEJA—Ahead of the October 22 local government election in Lagos State,  hundreds of aggrieved members of the Action Congress of Nigeria, ACN, yesterday,  stormed the party secretariat in Ogba, Lagos State House of Assembly, Alausa, and took to the major streets in Isolo Local Government Area to protest alleged imposition of candidates.

The state party had, Monday, released the names of candidates to be fielded in the council polls in the 20 local government areas and 37 local council development areas.

The protesters, who accused state party chairman, Chief Henry Ajomale, of not following due process, called on the party’s National Leader, Senator Bola Tinubu, Governor Babatunde Fashola and members of the state assembly to intervene immediately. failing which they would disrupt the polls.

Also, major streets in Isolo LCDA   witnessed massive protest as aggrieved residents, traditional chiefs and politicians stormed the Osolo of Isolo palace to register their grievances.

Market women and men, including traditional cult, popularly known as “Osugbo” trooped to the streets to invoke evil spirits at a junction called “Orita Esu” (devil’s junction) in Isolo with various placards to show their grievances against the imposition of one Shamsudeen Olaleye, against the popular choice of Mojeed Adam as the party’s candidate for the coming council poll.

The protesters, who walked from Isolo Bus- Stop to the palace of Osolo of Isolo, Oba Kabiru Agbabiaka, said the party did not hold primaries but arbitrarily chose Olaleye, the incumbent chairman, as the candidate for the forthcoming election.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/09/council-poll-protest-rocks-lagos-over-%e2%80%98imposition-of-candidates%e2%80%99/

aurenflani:
the yoruba are mostly foolish but they are generally descent. the igbos are animals on the one hand and vulgar on the other hand.

That was vulgar, more so than any Igbo can be, no?? One pot calls one kettle black??

Pukkah!!!

I am not sure why you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Anyways, Gbagi market in Ibadan (if still in the condition that I know it) is a very neat one, among the neatest in Nigeria. Hope that helps

ChinenyeN:
Well, I can only say 'good luck', because the 'indigene' is at the very center of our society. I can't think of a way you could successfully pull that off.

I know. Tough luck. Hahahahah!!!

Everyday I dream of an Igbo country where Igbos will pilot their own affairs, invest more in their land, and encourage excellence in a competitive manner, while dealing a deathly blow on the vices ravaging that part of the country.

This, coming from a non-Nigerian, is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. And BTW, not just Owerri women, but Igbo women in general.

My mother is a good example

http://odili.net/news/source/2011/oct/2/310.html

Why I love Owerri women, by Heartland's Dutch Coach

Sports    Sunday, October 2, 2011

By KATE OBODO

After leading Heartland to win the 2011 Federation Cup last week, the club's Technical Adviser, Lodewijk De Kruif, who hails from Holland, tells Saturday Vanguard Sports of his aspirations for the team, which he led to victory in the Federation Cup final. He also reveals his fond admiration for the women in Owerri. Excerpts:


Heartland FC Coach, Lodewijk de Kruif

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Congratulations on your Federation Cup win. So how how does it feel being the champions?

I feel very good, because it was a big trial for us. Like I told people before now, we had to pass through this trial to show the stuff that we are made of. When I came to the club between January to February, we were in bad shape, we had to reform a little bit, bring in some new things into the group. I said, from the beginning that it was too important for us to do well in the Federation Cup. Then we took all the matches very seriously and it brought us to the finals. And now we have won the cup. So I am very happy for the team, because it was the players who did the job. Same goes for the technical crew, the management and our fantastic fans

What is your assessment of the final match against Enyimba?

It was a very difficult match because our opponents came out when we were a goal ahead. But everybody can see that we were two times better than Enyimba in that match. I think we won the match because we played better than the Aba boys.

Is this the first remarkable Cup win you have recorded?

I have had other wins with youth teams in my country but this is the major trophy that I have won so far in my coaching career. It is even more special because it is the first time Heartland are winning something after 23 years without winning any trophy,  Indeed, It is really great and also a new beginning for the people of Imo State and the Governor Rochas Okorocha.

Who do you dedicate this victory to?

I dedicate this victory to the team and the people of Imo, for their unflinching support throughout the campaign. I also dedicate it to the players, because they were the ones who made it possible and I am very proud of them because they have done very well in earning this great victory. We won the match despite the fact that people regarded us as the underdogs. I am happy and satisfied with the performance of my players.

What makes Heartland tick?

Heartland is tick, because of the quality of players we have in the team. Although we are not perfect, we still need to be properly nurtured

What plans do you have for Heartland?

Now that we have won the Fed Cup, I think that he future is now brighter for the team. My focus will be how to improve the fortunes of the team. We must re-organize the team and bring in some players and allow some to go. This can be achieved by scouting for players, getting them, knowing their skills in the game, evaluating their psychological well-being and integrating them into our plan.

How has your stay in Owerri been?

It has been wonderful, being in Nigeria. Owerri is a good place to be. The people there are good and accommodating and I have been able to learn one or two things so far. Talking about their foods, I like 'eba',apu' I also like their culture. So it is nice being here.

What do you like most about Nigeria; her men, women and society at large?

Like I said earlier, Nigeria is indeed great with rich pool of talents and wonderful people[b] particularly the people of Owerri; [/b]I like her men and women. But I like the women in Owerri more because they are hard working, supportive and industrious in the polity of the state. They are special people to be with,

What is your assessment of the average Nigerian player?

One thing that you can not take away from the average Nigerian player is that he is talented but the problem is the opportunity to identify and get these talents. There are whole lots of players in these country who can play very and make the country proud.

What needs improvement in the league

The Nigerian league, is still growing and needs to be improved like other leagues outside the country, especially in the aspect of its programme . For instance, the issue of not knowing the exact terminal date for the league is not good for the development of the game. Normally, the league runs from August to May in Europe but here, there is no fixed date., which is not good for the game. The aspect of officiating needs to be looked into if the league must improve. Coaches should also be technically sound. Lastly the remuneration of players welfare should also be considered.

Beaf:
If this topic had not been posted with mischievous reasons, we would actually have a topic to trash out and cry out to govt about. The right to proper education should be a fundamental expectation for all Nigerians. We should be talking about how it is possible for so many fake and substandard schools to flourish in the country, instead we have senseless ethnic bickering. Its like saying, "my fake school is better than yours." Fake is fake.

The mind is a powerful tool for building and for destruction, for positive and for negative. Education is about shaping, nourishing and nurturing minds; fake and substandard schools are about abusing the minds of our kids and producing societal misfits. Shouldn't we care more about this?

Yeah!! I beat the op to his own game by showing more than 15, 000 fake Yoruba schools against <500 in Ebonyi

seanet02:
Are you a Mind reader that you can guess if an OP is being mischievous or not?
Hypocrite

You are horror movie

ChinenyeN:
The fact of the matter is that the indigene/settler dichotomy is a real phenomenon and there's nothing anyone here can do about. That dichotomy even supersedes the "Nigerian Constitution". It's a simple fact that we all know, and no amount of frowned faces can change that.

That has been my point here and on the other thread where we discussed this matter extensively. For this, Orji is morally wrong, but constitutionally not wrong, I think, based on the indigenization policy. That policy needs to be abolished now.

Ufeolorun:
@OP.
If i were you I would have hidden the fact that I had/have anything to do with Ibadan because It makes you appear ungrateful.You come across confused , if wherever you come from is better what are you flipping doing in Ibadan, Ibadan offered/offer you what wherever you come from could not hence it deserves your respect and commitment.
Growing up as a minority in a place could make you have deep-seated resentment but you need to grow up, seriously.

Whats wrong with Ibadan! from one clueless politician to the other even the new guy is beginning to look clueless. Ibadan  is too important, Someone needs to wake up this city,one of the greatest in West Africa.

But you do not know the whole story of my interaction with Ibadan. Living there is something else but telling you how I lived there will be another. So don't even go there. And BTW, I did not get anything from Ibadan, so I do not know where the thrash talk about ungratefulness is coming from.

Pukkah:
You did say that parts of Bodija are the 'dirtiest in the world'!  Isn't this an exaggeration? Now, taking this hyperbole along with the first picture you posted, would you blame someone that says it was done with a tribal slur?  I also don't think that your Nairaland pedigree, as a tribalist, would dispel this perception.

On another note, and this is based on your posts on other threads, I'm surprised that someone like you who has travelled and interacted across tribal lines would still express such deep and[b] strong [/b]ethnocentric views that cast aspersion on a whole lot of people at the same time. If this is a reflection of the depth of the problems in Nigeria, I'm still thinking of what the solution can be.

How dirty is Bodija market which is the part I emphasized on? And yes, of all the markets I have seen in the world, it is the dirtiest. I do not see my views as ethnocentric. I see them instead as saying what is on the ground. If you see them otherwise, I am sorry I cannot help you. My views about my own part of the country have also been strong, where they need to be. You only need to peruse my posts and see. You, too, were also blind to the areas of Ibadan that I praised right?

2mch:
I dont see this topic in the article . OP again with his sensational stories.

Click on the link in the article to see the source and title and thou shalt be free from ignorance and myopia

Hye-Bits:
Why discuss Ibos all of the time and why not in some of the time? Why waste time on Ibos? Their hallmark is short-everything. All backdoor in the name of quick money. They will never change, the reason we should never discuss people culture as this is next to Ibos culture.

Did you read the entire thread very well? I mean all the posts on this thread?

~Bluetooth:
Stop finding excuses to cover up the biggest disunity among ibos.You don't like yourself if not anambra ibos wont be attacking imo ibos even here on nl.

No one is covering up anything. At first Orji claimed that the sack was necessary because more than 50% of Abia State's workforce were non-Abians. I for one thought that should not have been the case since by our constitution each state caters to its people first based on the USELESS indigenization policy. But when I discovered that Orji was lying and that no more than 5-10% of the Abian workforce were non-Abians, I condemned him vociferously here on NL. For you, a known Yoruba supremacist, to turn this into Igbo-hate Igbo thingy, and to claim that Yorubas love themselves like insect and nectar, you will first have to explain the following:

1. The case of Awo and Akintola and their supporters
2. The case of Oyo versus Osun and Lautech university
3. The case of Fasola deporting fellow Yorubas to their states
4. The myriad of political killings in Yorubaland by Yorubas, the type of which does not exist anywhere else in Nigeria
5. The cash-induced betrayal of Abiola by fellow Yorubas, including his family members

ifyalways:
. . .IMO,they are Numero Uno when you talk of hospitality in Igboland.

I have no reason to doubt that. The girls are also loaded (you feel me)

deols:
and dats d only part u saw of my post ?? I said that in relation with the ethnic undertone. I showed my resentments too nd I hope the government

would do something fast.

And you did not see where I praised Ibadan, right? Na wa for WAEC oh!!!! Some people smell ethnicity where there is none.

deols:
if u know ibadan ds much, u must av lived, been educated, or worked there. Y are u biting the hand dat sheltered, educated or fed u?? 

I wish this thread has no tribal undertone. For truly, I av my resentment concerning the state of the city where I was born, bread and buttered.

The last time I was in Ibadan, I was sad and then became angry. We av bn very unlucky wv d governors w'v had and Ajimobi isnt evn helping matters now.

As a kid, I used to c lagos as being very dirty cos Ibadan was better. Bodija was the place to be, favos,  Leventis, Famad, bata  nd their likes were the places to shop. How about trans amusement park and UI zoo- all we had as children

All of these are things of the past nd nothn to write home about has replaced them. When rescue came to UI zoo, every animal became tagged with  a banner, donated by . . .(like every penny Nigerians spend must av their faces printed on it)

Moniya, ologun eru shld av bn  new settlements, planned. But, pple just keep buying lands and building the way they like all over d place.

worse is d fact that, Everywhere is a market. 

You mean by saying the facts about Ibadan, I am biting the hand that fed me? Na wao!!. Is there anything that I said here that is overly exaggerated? Anyways, Ibadan did not ''feed'' me for free. I paid for every ''feeding'' that Ibadan gave me.

^^^^^
Thank you. But you do not even need to live in Spain to know. Google has told us so already. Just google Hamada Radio International and see.

~Bluetooth:
Lautech issue is about who controls the school and not a discriminatory one as this.Do you think Aregbesola would have served as a commissioner in lagos if yorubas are discriminatory as ibos ?

But those people (including a Yoruba, as we read in the paper) sent out of Abia have been working in Abia for ages unmolested. So is it Igbo discriminating now or the Gov of Abia discriminating for hi sown selfish reason? Can you be clear in your head for once?

Kanu Nwankwo and one other girl in Imo cabinet are Abians? Your tribalism will always blinden you to any good reasoning.


As for Lautech, it was not only about who controls, it was also about who is employed. Stop living in denial, for once.

~Bluetooth:
Are these the same people we are supposed to live together in a southern Nigeria ? Where is the unity among ibos themselves talkless of unity with other tribes ?
Yorubas,y'all should better ronu before you form any alliance with the real enemy !

Do these names mean anything to you? Oyo, Osun, Lautech university?? If so, what does it mean?

Pukkah:

This does not make it right.

Of course it does not. But we know the underlying reason is based on indigeneship.

solaugo:
My brother love knows no tribe as a matter of fact we met during youth service while serving in the camp choir of NCCF,

Do you by any chance work at the NRCRI?

deols:
op should be proud to show us his own home town  . there are rusted roofs every where in Nigeria. But, Ibadan has hills that make those roofs very visible either from above or below.

op is definitely doing this deliberately. There are many beautiful places in Ibadan. If u stay inside UCH nd look around, especially seeing Premier hotel(on mokola hill) and d cocacola area from there, u'd b marveled at the beauty.

Ibadan has the potential of being entirely beautiful if some planning cld be done to make good use of its natural hills.

Development can  occur from the outskirt inward. Majority of the big pple av their family houses  under those rusted roofs. many are not ready to give dem up. By the next generation, hopefully they'd be getting converted into modern buildings. The Queen cinema area is changing actually, wv those houses being sold to pple who convert them into modern buildings.

Ibadan is naturally beautiful with the hills and all that, but that beauty has been badly defaced by old, decrepit and rusty structures that adorn more than 70% of the city and some adjoining landscapes (read one of my earlier posts) such as around Ojoo, Moniya etc. Now let me see you tell me this is not true. A place like Bodija has the good and the bad, and almost the whole of Mokola and Sango are rusty, but those Mokola hills are enchanting.

In fact, I know Ibadan like the back of my palms that I can safely conclude that that city is one big slum with a sprinkling of fresh breath here and there.

SE and Northern people usually took the offer to join Libyan army while the SW and SS people did not

Above was the quote on the other thread that sparked off the whole issue

Now folks, I do not know how much of that you believe. It is an unbelievable story, especially as these people were said to be recruited when Libya had no war going on, so no unemployed and able Nigerian in Libya had any reason not to earn a wage in Libya as a soldier, rather than remain unemployed. Can anyone even explain how/why a Yoruba in Libya (including muslim Yorubas) will reject employment into the Libyan army and others will accept? To begin with, what is the problem with being in the libyan army when Nigerians are in the UK and US army and some have been killed fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Plus:

Emeka Aloysius Mohammed

. What sort of name is this?

Ibadan

Ibadan

Ibadan

It happens everywhere in Nigeria. Akala once sacked all Osun indigenes from Lautech university or university hospital.

I thought the other Yoruba newspaper article that we discussed in this forum says only SE and northern people were in Ghadaffi's army and that no SW and SS person agreed to join? Now if a this report is anything to go by, Braimoh Robinson Garba is Edo.

Anyways, how did they get the names of dead soldiers so accurately, especially when their names are foreign and therefore will not be even easy to pronounce by libyans. Another fake story by an Yoruba journalist Please do not tell me these mean were carrying id cards, for that is likely not possible.

Like I said, at the end of the day, Nigerians from all ethnicities will be found in Libyan's previous army, just like you will in the US, UK, etc armies. I rest my case