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raumdeuter:
So its a forgone fact Wenger is a failure until he wins the CL

We all know. So?

raumdeuter:
Wenger has been a coach for over 30yrs and he hasnt won a European title, Pep started coaching less than 10yrs ago and he has 2

So?

Lol!

raumdeuter:
All these second grade trophies.

Championship, Europa etc. We are talking of better trophies not the type a typical arsenal fan will celebrate

Which one did Pep win last season?

Eruditor:
You said he inherited good squads in Barca and Bayern. Okay.

He did not inherit a good squad with City so he wants to rebuild. You still complain.

Pep should sell off all the bad legs in City and still win without replacing them. Or he should use the bad legs to win - then when he wins the same you would turn around and say anybody would have won with them.

Sorry I can't be dancing palongo with you. Stick to one narrative and forget how much he has spent.

Wait till he wins the league then say you have no respect for him because he signed expensive players. Say you only respect Ranieri and until Pep uses Aston Villa to win, you won't respect him.

You are just about an inch from saying that.

Your last sentence... Lol.

I was simply reacting to your thoughts.

If Pep is a good the best manager, winning titles shouldn't depend on buying stars since any decent manager can do that.

Yet, after spending so much last season he failed to win anything. How can I clap for him?

Eruditor:
But...But...You said Pre-season games are fake. So how is losing a preseason game another round of failure?

Only when it involves Pep!

I said preseason games are fake because you don't win a title. That doesn't mean you don't get beaten.

Eruditor:
LOL.

When he wins one this season you would revert and say "Chequebook manager. He only wins because he spends".

For evidence check your statements on his wins in Spain and Germany.

That is why I told you, you would only deceive fellow Arsenal Lickspittles. You would have an excuse for whatever victory Pep has because you are conditioned that way.

Forget Spain and Germany, lets focus on the now. How much has Pep spent between arriving England and now?

Had he won the title, may be we could turn a blind eye to his extravagance.

Eruditor:
Better team? But...But only a season before they were 10th and you were 2nd.

Better manager? But your head to head against him and his CFC was 2-1 if I can count (and boy can I count!)

LOL. You are willing to trade your beloved Wenger and AFC to spite Pep. That is why you are succeeding in deceiving yourself my man.

Pep has a better head to head record than Mou including finishing 3rd to Mou's 6th.

But to you everything changes after a preseason game.

Debrainwashing? Shouldn't charity begin at home?

Sometimes I wonder if Raumdueter is not behind this moniker. You two can shift like shadows about a point.

Unless you want to accept that United and Mourinho are better than City and Pep respectively, then Pep losing to Mou is another round of failure.

Pep should be winning all his matches whether preseason or not. Remember he is the best manager in the world.

iPopAlomo:
Spy... if you dey drink Alomo... I owe you one carton for the bolded statement...

Just add enough sugar...

Eruditor:
You don't give excuses indeed. What is below?



Arsenal were a weakened side but City used 7 youngstars and loanies to play United's first team and you refused to accept they were weakened.

Deceive only your fellow Arsenal fanatics. Not me.

He that is down fears no fall.

Arsenal lost to a better team and manager no doubt.

Would say same of Pep?

That's the difference between objectivity and sentimentality.

Eruditor:
1. Where did he blame anybody for not spending?

2. Classy how you said under Pep. Why did they not keep bribing the refs after he left? Why did Bayern not bribe refs as well?

3. LOL. Yea he came to win a UCL they had just won the year he was signed.

Pep came to make Bayern a consistent winner playing his own brand of football. CONSISTENT because prior they had not been. They wobbled after LVGs double and won diddly squat till Pep was announced the new coach.

Sorry to burst your lies again but Dortmund had been the dominant German team 2 years in a row and nobody anticipated Jupp's treble. If winning Bundesliga was a given, ask Bayern why they offered him a new contract worth €17m/year the season left.

4. Why did Del B not win Confed 2012 with the same players? Tata Martino ko? I thought using those players to win was a given.

The standards used against him only prove his greatness. If he does not sign and he wins (he inherited a good squad and anyone would have won with them). If he signs and wins (he is a chequebook manager who needs big players to win).

Your hatred for him is disheveled and confused. Pick one lane and stick with it.

You swing like a pendulum, all words but zero points made. Pep failed to win a title last season after spending more than everyone. You claim it was because he had grannies as team. Now you want to pass the buck on someone else as hatred. It is no hatred bro. We are only debrainwashing your fanaticism.

Eruditor:
1. Does Wenger not spend? Why does he not win?

2. How come UEFAlona have stopped bribing refs after he left?

3. So how many times have Bayern won the UCL before and after he left?

3. Del Bosque did not have these same players in 2012 Confeds cup? Rijkaard did not have these same players in 03, 04, 07?

Why do these players become so great that anybody can win with them when it involves Pep? Why is expected to win UCL every year for Pep to prove himself but to any other manager the standards are lower?

1. The point is when Pep doesn't win he blames it on not spending enough.

2. Barca has been bribing refs since 1804 including during Pep's era.

3. He came to Bayern to win UCL. He failed. Winning the BuLi is a give away as any coach can do that. Ask Anceloti.

4. Del B used the same players to win world cup, Euros etc. Pep even had the super luxury of having a Messi extra.

Whatever standards are used against Pep was set by fanatics like you and Raumdueter.

sod09:
B4 d match wengay said it's no friendly
He even used giroud Wen he's not in sub

Not when your back three are Niles, Per and Monreal. Wenger may not have expected Chelsea to field such a strong squad in a preseason friendly.

We lost no biggy.

Eruditor:
Weakened ke? How did you say it on the Man U thread;

Are the players Wenger used not his players? Were they not Arsenal players?

Okay, now Pre-season is fake. Good.

I would do well to steer clear off some of your arguments for now because the double-standards you employ are bizarre.

I am not giving excuses for the loss unlike you when Man United beat Man City 2-0.

We lost to Chelsea, they were the better side.

City lost to United yet you give excuses.

sod09:
Pple comman see oo wengay said food poisoning affected them against Bayern...Wats wrong today
Cc spy360

Eruditor:
Make I follow repeat the question to Spy360.

Arsenal were a weakened side. Besides preseason is fake.

Eruditor:
You've gotten the answer to your question but you are just being silly.

They have agreed a fee for Mendy so that seems in the bag. Prior to this, they had no LBs.

Why would any well-meaning football fan ask me whether not having LBs will hamper any team?

Every manager can have an excuse of not having full backs?

Meanwhile, hope you are enjoying your lacazette. He is in for a torrid time in the EPL with his lack of stamina or strength.

You guys are being raw-dogged by an average CFC side that have not left gear 2 but seem to be steam-rolling you guys.

Guess it does not matter since it is pre-season. Only if it involves Pep...

You call...

Courtois; Luiz, Cahill, Aspilicueta; Moses, Kante, Fabregas, Alonso; Willian, Pedro, Batshuayi.

Average?

You nor know ball.

As for Pep, if you sack 4 FBs you don't use lack of FBs as an excuse.
Well thank God he will sign Mendy, so no more excuses?

Eruditor:
Supporters of small clubs with the same mentality make the kind of arguments you are making.

CFC are sacking Costa to get Morata - did you hear me complain?

United sacked Rooney for Lukaku - did I complain?

If United had sold Rooney or CFC Costa, without replacing them would I not be remiss to expect them to compete?

So WTF are you on about?

City let go of their 4FBs. It is just common sense for me to expect them to replace them and compete.

If you could sack every AFC player and replace them to just to win but you did not, does that not make you grossly inept and allergic to winning?

Will you expect Barca to win anything this year if it is announced that Messi is injured for the rest of the season?

Guy, educate yourself.

You did not answer the question.

Would not signing 2 LBs be an excuse for Pep not to win the league? If you think he has to sign then that's silly because every manager can use that as an excuse.

Stop beating about the bush.

Eruditor:
Why do you make childish remarks sometimes?

They lost Kolarov and Gael Clichy. They lost Sagna and Zaba. It is only natural they replaced them.

In that United game, they had to play Fernandinho in that position- I mean as LB.

You are the one who allows sentiments to ecloud your judgements.

You say they lost all their FBs or sacked them?

I could sack every Arsenal player and buy new ones just to win the league.

Never use buying players as an excuse not to win as every club wants to buy as much as possible. Some just can't afford it.

Eruditor:
I have been registered on NL since 2014 but an active guest since eons ago. If I made predictions about Pep last year the evidence would have been in one of the threads.

We even have detectives here, they may have done screenshots.

The fact remains that I made no predictions because I saw what was available. I am the same person now announcing that Manchester City will win the EPL in 2017/18. They are just 2LBs away. Danilo seems like a wrap.

How many LBs away are Chelsea, Arsenal, United, etc away from winning the league.

I hope the emboldened won't be the excuse?

Greatihex:
"I think he will be a success," he said.

"He is a good striker who has scored a lot of goals with Lyon. Of course, it will be very difficult in the beginning because when you play in France and move to England it is not the same, it is very aggressive.

"Maybe he will need time for the adaptation but everyone around him is very important, especially the French connection."

Pires believes the club is in a good place and feels Wenger will play a key part in Lacazette's success.

The striker takes part in training during Arsenal's pre-season tour in Sydney
The striker takes part in training during Arsenal's pre-season tour in Sydney
"I think Arsene Wenger has a very important role for him, Arsenal have Lacazette, Olivier Giroud, Alexis Sanchez and Danny Welbeck, it is good and I'm happy for the club.

"But to make the adaptation, to find the rhythm and the tempo, for me it took six or seven months.

"It was very tough, for me it was the aggression and intensity. For me, because I came from France, it was heavy and that is why it is difficult in the Premier League."

Lacazette is likely to get his first action against a Premier League side since joining Arsenal when they take on champions Chelsea in a pre-season clash in Beijing on Saturday.

Thierry Henry (left) and Robert Pires hold the Premiership trophy as they celebrate winning the title with Arsenal in 2004
Thierry Henry (left) and Robert Pires hold the Premiership trophy as they celebrate winning the title with Arsenal in 2004
Pires knows first-hand just how different English football can be having been handed a crash-course by Wenger after signing from Marseille 17 years ago.

"I remember that moment," he added.

"After 20 minutes sat on the bench I said to myself 'what are you doing here?' because it was very, very difficult. I remember one tackle from Patrick Vieira and I thought this football wasn't for me.

"It was very difficult and it is about adaptation, it is very difficult."
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10957146/alexandre-lacazette-may-need-time-to-settle-at-arsenal-says-robert-pires

Some people.

Arsenal may sign Rafinha. Deal looks very probable.

Eruditor:
If you say a lie ad nauseam it still won't become the truth. Who did he sign in Barca and Bayern - his previous 2 clubs?

You think United don't have unlimited funds? LOL.

He came to City for legacy. Mou will never have it in United (just like he did not get it in RM). Pep did not get it in Bayern as well but he has it in Barca. He wants to replicate that success in City (a team with no history).

Let the season start already. He would do better than 3rd (what he achieved last sesson) and Chelsea and Tottenham will not have an easy ride this time (shock value gone plus more UCL engagements). I theorize he has just more than enough to edge it. That is my prediction. I am asking you to quote me now.

This moniker writes like the one who predicted Pep would win the treble last season but deactivated two months before the season ended.

Hope you will stick around...

sod09:
no one is blaming papa ajasco for signing players,wat we saying is he's not a world class coach cos he depend heavily on big transfers.
You guys made him special though

Simple.

sod09:
everyone knows he went for money The point is fraudiola bidded for him period 30+ years

Leave am

raumdeuter:
Lacazzete cant bring any success with that useless Arsenal team

Ok I get you. You like Laca best but just don't want to admit it as you hate Arsenal.

But check na, with Ozil and Sanchez behind him?

Arsenal should be stronger next season.

raumdeuter:
Yes na that cup win am the right to go dey play with Skonto Riga for Yorupa cup

[]And he will look to Foden Adarabioyo Zinchenko, Mangala, Nasri, Diaz, Roberts next season? [/b]
I dont need to tell you to park well

Are they not his players? Are they not Man City players?

raumdeuter:
First if Pep that made top 4 scored F9 what grade will we give to Arsenal and Wenger who didnt make CL football

You being an Arsenal fan, I know you place a very high premium on pre season because thats where your club can win

Pep is using Pre season to test youngsters like Phil Foden, Adarabioyo, Patrick Roberts, Brahim Diaz, Zinchenko while some coaches go dey do strong head for ordinary pre season

like 3 seasons ago Na so Van Gaal dey beat everyone for pre season even beat Madrid 3-1. We all know how he turned out when real matches started

Wenger won a cup. E8?

Na only Pep dey test players?
The players he is testing are they not City players? Those players, are they not the players he will look to next season.

Abeg park well bros.

raumdeuter:
Make you add that to your ICC trophy making 2 cups already

Be serious, who would you take?

Why Lacazette is the best striker deal so far.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40665802
Roland17, Raumdeuter, A40, Eruditor

Raumdeuter, Pep seems not prepared to sit for his carryover exam after a straight F9 last semester.

obyno2017:
It now looks like a gang up against Mourinho,they know what he's capable of doing and a proven winner. All his former clubs are scared of him bt they will see him lifting major trophies coming season.

No.

Rather there is a beef between United and Real in the issue of transfers. It got nothing to do with Mou.

Again don't expect any PL club to sell to a rival, not now that money plenty. Even Tottenham would see United and other top clubs as rivals.

So again, it is not about Mou. Mourinho can win all he cares but he must buy elsewhere.

PattyCake:
Yess...Lacazette is so "Top of a striker" that even Giroud benches him on the National team...Bro I rebuke every senile brain cell in your body....Now let me hear you say a BIG amen BITCHH

You are so senseless that the only sense left in a nonsensical entity like you is your olfactory sense organ.

PattyCake:
Arsenal wanted a top striker but got Lacazette.

Isn't Lacazette a top striker?

When amadioha dey share sense, where you dey?